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Cisco Kid 09-29-2014 01:56 PM

I admit it. I judge a man by the way they look
 
Look @ The TV news. If you walk in with a skull on your neck. I am leaving.
I would not hire you or rent to you. I will turn and run from you. I would assume you are guilty of what ever case needs closed.
This I confess.
I will talk to my priest about this Sunday.

Indydealmaker 09-29-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 945647)
Look @ The TV news. If you walk in with a skull on your neck. I am leaving.
I would not hire you or rent to you. I will turn and run from you. I would assume you are guilty of what ever case needs closed.
This I confess.
I will talk to my priest about this Sunday.

Despite what the "progressives" preach, if you don't learn to profile you are more likely to end up regretting that learning deficiency than not.

Parker 09-29-2014 02:06 PM

Saw a windshield banner on a rather run-down car the other day that read "Hated by Many". The driver looked like a thug. Suffice it to say, I'll take him at his word and assume he is a bad guy. I don't think that's judgemental, just a reasonable reaction.

pbkmaine 09-29-2014 02:13 PM

I feel that way about tattoos, but a surprising number of nice people have them. Including our VP of HR.

MikeV 09-29-2014 02:18 PM

I always judge a book by its cover until I have read it.

maddie101 09-29-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 945647)
Look @ The TV news. If you walk in with a skull on your neck. I am leaving.
I would not hire you or rent to you. I will turn and run from you. I would assume you are guilty of what ever case needs closed.
This I confess.
I will talk to my priest about this Sunday.

I would not want to be this guys dinner partner on a cruise for sure. This is the guy arrested near City Fire on Sunday

KayakerNC 09-29-2014 02:22 PM

Certainly explains the success of the Bernie Madoff types.
http://menacesdamour.m.e.pic.centerb...t/f0yhwma0.jpg

redwitch 09-29-2014 02:47 PM

I hate tats. Cute, ugly, threatening, scary. I don't care. They're hideous. At the same time, some of the nicest people I've ever met have them. It took me a long time but I learned to at least let a person say more than five words before I dismissed them from my life regardless of their outward appearance.

A pretty cover does not a good book make.

graciegirl 09-29-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 945699)
I hate tats. Cute, ugly, threatening, scary. I don't care. They're hideous. At the same time, some of the nicest people I've ever met have them. It took me a long time but I learned to at least let a person say more than five words before I dismissed them from my life regardless of their outward appearance.

A pretty cover does not a good book make.

We can't be so uncaring of our appearance if we want to get hired. You may be an ax murderer but if you are applying for a day care job, please don't look like an ax murderer.

Bernie Madoff didn't look the part of a bad guy, but that is a weak argument to me. I will profile.

Cisco Kid 09-29-2014 02:54 PM

That had to hurt to get.
How many needles to the throat did it take to get a skull.
Me thinks he likes pain.
It hurts to look at.

Sable99 09-29-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 945699)
I hate tats. Cute, ugly, threatening, scary. I don't care. They're hideous. At the same time, some of the nicest people I've ever met have them. It took me a long time but I learned to at least let a person say more than five words before I dismissed them from my life regardless of their outward appearance.

A pretty cover does not a good book make.

I agree. I really don't like tattoos. But, I also think some tattoos are a lot worse than others and I must admit I probably do judge them.

redwitch 09-29-2014 03:07 PM

I think we all judge. It is inherent in us. The question is what we do about that judgment. As I said, I've learnt to let someone talk and I try hard to listen before I decide I do not want to waste my time. That doesn't mean I'm not cautious, it just means you get the benefit of doubt.

Madelaine Amee 09-29-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 945647)
Look @ The TV news. If you walk in with a skull on your neck. I am leaving.
I would not hire you or rent to you. I will turn and run from you. I would assume you are guilty of what ever case needs closed.
This I confess.
I will talk to my priest about this Sunday.

First impressions are very, very important to me. This may be wrong and unchristian, but first impressions hang with me a long, long time. If my first impression turns out to be incorrect (and it does) I am still hesitant about the person.

OK, having said all that, I think a lot of people tend to have done stupid things in their youth that catch up with them in the long run. But, if you are going to put a skull and cross bones on your body don't put it on your neck where it is the first thing seen when people (and police, and gang members) meet you - smarten up and put it on the cheek of your backside where only select people will see it!

To me, a skull and cross bones on your neck is an affront to my sensibilities.

I don't apologize for my strong feelings on this matter ................... :ohdear:

BarryRX 09-29-2014 03:28 PM

You never get a second chance at a first impression. That's why I always do James Cagney!

Cisco Kid 09-29-2014 03:33 PM

And adding to my post that I will hijack,
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A man armed with a pair of brass knuckles was arrested at 2 a.m. Sunday outside City Fire at Lake Sumter Landing Market Square.
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2 AM ??????? I thought after 9 PM in TV only the possums were out ?

Patty55 09-29-2014 03:38 PM

It's not just tats, I'm also judgemental of people with face piercing, multiple earrings, those nails we all did in the 80's, hunter type camo and that gauging thing.

I'm totally okay with service tattoos.

pbkmaine 09-29-2014 03:40 PM

I really don't get tongue piercings. Why would you do that?

Patty55 09-29-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 945727)
And adding to my post that I will hijack,
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A man armed with a pair of brass knuckles was arrested at 2 a.m. Sunday outside City Fire at Lake Sumter Landing Market Square.
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2 AM ??????? I thought after 9 PM in TV only the possums were out ?

Whoa, if that's the guy pictured upthread he looks like he smacked himself in the head. Maybe he did the "Should've have a V8" thing.

Patty55 09-29-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pbkmaine (Post 945736)
I really don't get tongue piercings. Why would you do that?

They say it enhances (how do I put this?) a picnic in the square.

Cisco Kid 09-29-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 945718)
First impressions are very, very important to me. This may be wrong and unchristian, but first impressions hang with me a long, long time. If my first impression turns out to be incorrect (and it does) I am still hesitant about the person.

OK, having said all that, I think a lot of people tend to have done stupid things in their youth that catch up with them in the long run. But, if you are going to put a skull and cross bones on your body don't put it on your neck where it is the first thing seen when people (and police, and gang members) meet you - smarten up and put it on the cheek of your backside where only select people will see it!

To me, a skull and cross bones on your neck is an affront to my sensibilities.

I don't apologize for my strong feelings on this matter ................... :ohdear:

If I had put a Skull & Cross Bones on my front side as a youth, My daddy would have shaved my *** and make we walk backwards.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-29-2014 03:52 PM

I was just talking to my wife the other day about how you can look at some people and just know they are trouble.

On rare occasions you might find that you are wrong but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

When the OP mentioned a skull tattooed on the neck, I have to ask myself what kind of person would want to look like that? What does he want others to think of him?

My previous wife was a addiction counselor. She always told her clients, if you want people to stop thinking of you as a heroin addict, stop looking like one.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-29-2014 04:00 PM

I think that a lot of people misunderstand the concept of not judging people. I learned that although you shouldn't judge people, you should judge their actions. Is not wrong to judge that murdering someone is wrong and that the person who did it has done a bad thing?

Do good people sometimes do bad things? Sure but they should still pay the price.

Having a skull tattooed on your neck is an action and it speaks volumes about the kind of person you are the the type of image that you want to portray. I don't think that it's wrong to judge in that way.

KayakerNC 09-29-2014 04:00 PM

I wonder what Barbie's Tramp Stamp will look like when she is ready to move to The Villages.

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/...010/03/121.jpg

Bubble Gum 09-29-2014 04:03 PM

Years ago as a child, my father repeatedly said something to me, that has remained instilled in my brain.

"Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are."

Judgmental? Yes, but it seems he was right.

2BNTV 09-29-2014 04:05 PM

I am not a fan of tatoo's. Never believed they enchance, the look of a person.

My son listened to his grandmother, as she told him never to do that, or he and she would have a problem.

I never felt the need to express myself that way. I went to a gym in CT, and one guy had tatoo's so you couldn't see any of his original skin. Nice man, but I didn't think of it as attractive. Same goes for women, who have tatoo's over their whole body. To me, this is a weird way to express oneself but that's just me.

gomoho 09-29-2014 04:06 PM

It's a generational thing - most young people today think nothing of it. My daughter has her masters in clinical psychology with a focus on substance abuse. She also has a full sleeve tat that tells a story of Buddha. In her profession it has worked to her advantage 'cause the kids she works with are interested and it opens the spirituality and mindfulness discussion. She has not had an employment issue at this point; however, she is probably in a much more tolerant profession than say Wall Street.

Aandjmassage 09-29-2014 04:26 PM

I watch out for tattoo on tears. I was told that means they killed someone.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-29-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 945749)
I wonder what Barbie's Tramp Stamp will look like when she is ready to move to The Villages.

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/...010/03/121.jpg

Amazing that even after it got the name "tramp stamp" that girls would still get them.

I remember a student that I had back in the nineties telling me she was so excited because she was finally going to get her tramp stamp that afternoon. I asked her why she wanted to be known as a tramp and she said, "It really doesn't mean anything, it's just cool.

I wonder how many forty year olds there are now that are trying to find ways to have their tramp stamp removed.

billethkid 09-29-2014 06:18 PM

nastyness and bad behavior is not just relegated to the unkempt folks with tats or piercings...

How about the little old lady/little old man that would just as soon run you down in the crosswalk as look at you or the one that cuts you off on the highway and flips you the bird.

We all profile and we are all stereotypically prejudiced.

mr and mrs bike 09-29-2014 06:42 PM

I don't know how to post the site from our local paper but a man was just sentenced in our local courthouse to three life terms today. His name is Caius Veiovis. If you have a minute to waste on him you might want to check him out. I wonder how someone can slip so far into the dark side.

Deseylou 09-29-2014 06:43 PM

I think when we hang out with like minded folks, we fit in and it's ok to look a certain way
Many people have the attitude, if they don't like what I look like then ( curse word) them.
They forget that most of society doesn't feel, act or dress that way

onslowe 09-29-2014 06:50 PM

I grew up in NYC. One learned profiling early, especially on subways and subway stations.
I'm no expert, and I never 'violated' someone's alleged constitutional rights. But it got me away from or out of danger umpteen times.

Imagine how many dead police officers there would be absent the survival tactic of profiling?

I agree with the OP. Many many times, tattoos are a signal. Some idiot wants to 'belong' to his peer group of losers and social misfits. Or wants to imitate those role models locked up in prisons.

I grew up seeing men once in a while with one or two on them. Not a 'sleeve' as they now say, nor a full back full of drawings. I am glad I am not in the 'dating game' now. Women with tattoos are not my cup of tea. YMMV.

mgjim 09-29-2014 07:07 PM

I was waiting to pay for a purchase once; the sales clerk was an attractively dressed woman who had her back turned as I approached the counter. When she turned around, I saw what I thought was a string of snot dangling from her nose and stuck in her hair. I didn't want to embarrass her by making a big deal out of it, but I felt I should say something. Then, as I took a closer look, I realized that she had a chain running from a ring in her nose to a ring in her earlobe. I was surprised that it wasn't a violation of some dress code at that particular store. At least it wasn't snot though.

Halibut 09-29-2014 07:36 PM

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Despite what the "progressives" preach, if you don't learn to profile you are more likely to end up regretting that learning deficiency than not.
I believe the great progressive Jesus preached that we should, "Judge not ..."

graciegirl 09-29-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 945896)
I believe the great progressive Jesus preached that we should, "Judge not ..."


I think that using our common sense and protecting ourselves with solid decisions based on available evidence is not "judging". It is something akin to taking care of our health and using our talents, which is another parable. But I am not a literal interpreter of sacred scripture.

dbussone 09-29-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mgjim (Post 945881)
I was waiting to pay for a purchase once; the sales clerk was an attractively dressed woman who had her back turned as I approached the counter. When she turned around, I saw what I thought was a string of snot dangling from her nose and stuck in her hair. I didn't want to embarrass her by making a big deal out of it, but I felt I should say something. Then, as I took a closer look, I realized that she had a chain running from a ring in her nose to a ring in her earlobe. I was surprised that it wasn't a violation of some dress code at that particular store. At least it wasn't snot though.

I'm surprised that is not a health code violation of one sort or another.

Bonny 09-29-2014 09:06 PM

I have to say, some of what I am reading here has me stunned !!
I didn't think so many people were into the "profiling" or blantly "judging" thing.
I just pray that you are not on a jury convicting someone because of their tattoos or piercings. :pray:
Very scary indeed !!!

DougB 09-29-2014 09:16 PM

Yeah, I think all murderers and child killers should be good looking and clean cut like Ted Bundy.

Taltarzac725 09-29-2014 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 945699)
I hate tats. Cute, ugly, threatening, scary. I don't care. They're hideous. At the same time, some of the nicest people I've ever met have them. It took me a long time but I learned to at least let a person say more than five words before I dismissed them from my life regardless of their outward appearance.

A pretty cover does not a good book make.

Some of the nastiest people are very attractive to look at thinking back about some of the law students I knew at the University of Minnesota Law School. Outer beauty had nothing to do with inner beauty.

I know a lot of tattooed retired people who had a stint in the military who are quite nice and many of these people are here in the Villages.

Now if you have a skull tattoo on your face I am crossing the road to go look at that store over there.

I remember some prisoners at the Minnesota Correctional Facility around 1987-1989 in Stillwater who had tear tattoos. I thought that was a little cute until I found out what it meant. That they had killed someone to get their status in a gang or had done it as an rite-of-passage into the gang. Of course, in 2014, it may mean something entirely different given wherever you are.

Prison fashions often became very popular with the teens -- just look at the pants on the ground trend.

redwitch 09-30-2014 04:54 AM

I always wondered if boys would wear pants down below their hips if they knew it was a prison signal to let others know you were "available" for a "liaison"? I did mention to that one teen and he immediately pulled his pants up. However, the next time I saw him, they were dragging again.


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