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joldnol 11-11-2014 12:26 AM

Instead of ticketing golf carts, Sumter Co.
 
should be set up along Hillsborough and ticket the speeding construction vehicles. We were going down the road in our cart and a speeding dump truck almost took us out. He missed us by inches.

joldnol 11-11-2014 12:31 AM

a pick up carrying construction debris also had junk blowing out of his trailer. A piece of sheet aluminum just missed a cyclist we were behind. Insulation flying out, paper, plastic, etc....why aren't they required to secure their loads?

TNLAKEPANDA 11-11-2014 07:26 AM

Construction and delivery vehicles drive through the neighborhoods way too fast! I live on a corner lot and my grass is always getting trashed by commercial vehicles.

PaPaLarry 11-11-2014 08:01 AM

Sounds like to me if your riding a bike in the road or driving a cart in the road, your better off to use the cart paths, for safety. Why take that chance?

George Bieniaszek 11-11-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaLarry (Post 966685)
Sounds like to me if your riding a bike in the road or driving a cart in the road, your better off to use the cart paths, for safety. Why take that chance?

Cart paths only get you so far. You have to use the roads to get to where you are going. I agree that speeds here in The Villages are creeping up along with more aggressive driving, and lets not put the blame solely on the contractors and snowbirds.

Other than the radar trailer showing you how fast you are going, seems like traffic enforcement here in The Villages is less than minimal.

Bogie Shooter 11-11-2014 08:10 AM

This too shall pass. We have all gone thru this phase of construction. When construction is done the trash will be gone.
Ain't right........just happens.

graciegirl 11-11-2014 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 966689)
This too shall pass. We have all gone thru this phase of construction. When construction is done the trash will be gone.
Ain't right........just happens.


Always.....the voice of reason.

kansasr 11-11-2014 09:16 AM

As soon as every golf cart keeps it under the speed limit, uses their turn signals correctly and stops at all the stop signs, then we might be able to consider not ticketing them! I've seen enough commercial vehicles pulled over in the Villages to know that they aren't being ignored by the Sheriff.

Bogie Shooter 11-11-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by George Bieniaszek (Post 966688)
Cart paths only get you so far. You have to use the roads to get to where you are going. I agree that speeds here in The Villages are creeping up along with more aggressive driving, and lets not put the blame solely on the contractors and snowbirds.

Other than the radar trailer showing you how fast you are going, seems like traffic enforcement here in The Villages is less than minimal.

Slow down on BV just north of LSL or you will get a ticket. Sometimes two days in a row the deputies are there with their radar. What is less than minimal?

Sandtrap328 11-11-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 966743)
Slow down on BV just north of LSL or you will get a ticket. Sometimes two days in a row the deputies are there with their radar. What is less than minimal?


Why slow down? If you are driving at the posted speed limit, you do not have to slow down. 35 mph is the posted speed on Buena Vista. Anything over that is breaking the law. N'cest pas?

Bogie Shooter 11-11-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 966748)
Why slow down? If you are driving at the posted speed limit, you do not have to slow down. 35 mph is the posted speed on Buena Vista. Anything over that is breaking the law. N'cest pas?

This was advice to the speeders and to point out that the enforcement is more than minimal.....whatever that is.

Did you mean, N'est pas?

joldnol 11-11-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaLarry (Post 966685)
Sounds like to me if your riding a bike in the road or driving a cart in the road, your better off to use the cart paths, for safety. Why take that chance?

the path on Hillsborough is ON the road, just as it is in many neighborhoods

tommy steam 11-11-2014 01:55 PM

There is a huge amount of construction in the hillbourgh area and the new fruitland park area ,all the way down to 44. I'm sure it will be going on for the next year or so. Many of the contractors are driving way to fast and many using cells while driving. I would like to see a cop presence every once and a while.

dillywho 11-11-2014 02:05 PM

Why not just call the Sheriff's Office and complain there? Enough complaints and they just might take action.:police: Seems like that would do more good than complaining here, although those complaints are very valid. I have also observed The Villages marked vehicles committing the same transgressions, as well. And 20 mph in the roundabouts for any of the aforementioned......forget it!

rubicon 11-11-2014 02:43 PM

That Annoying Thing
 


It never ceases to amaze me when those not affected by "that annoying thing" always suggest patience , it will pass, etc. It is easier said then done when you are the one facing "that annoying thing".

If I encounter one of these uncovered trucks littering the highways I intend to do my level best to get the ID of the truck and call the cops before someone gets killed with flying debris:cus:

Chatbrat 11-11-2014 02:59 PM

In Fl, a speeding ticket can not be issued if you are doing less than 5mph over the posted speed limit. Just a reminder if you tie with a car & you're driving a golf cart--guess--who loses.

joldnol 11-11-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 966856)
Why not just call the Sheriff's Office and complain there? Enough complaints and they just might take action.:police: Seems like that would do more good than complaining here, although those complaints are very valid. I have also observed The Villages marked vehicles committing the same transgressions, as well. And 20 mph in the roundabouts for any of the aforementioned......forget it!

good point

GatorFan 11-11-2014 04:39 PM

Call and speak to Lt. Wolfe. Sumter County is a huge area to cover. Lt. Wolfe will listen.

JoMar 11-11-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PaPaLarry (Post 966685)
Sounds like to me if your riding a bike in the road or driving a cart in the road, your better off to use the cart paths, for safety. Why take that chance?

Hillsborough is the cart path

NYGUY 11-11-2014 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 966866)
....If I encounter one of these uncovered trucks littering the highways I intend to do my level best to get the ID of the truck and call the cops before someone gets killed with flying debris:cus:

Amen!!

VT2TV 11-12-2014 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 966875)
In Fl, a speeding ticket can not be issued if you are doing less than 5mph over the posted speed limit. Just a reminder if you tie with a car & you're driving a golf cart--guess--who loses.


I have never heard of anywhere that a speeding ticket cannot be issued if you are doing less than 5 miles over the speed limit. I have spent quite alot of time with police officers on a friendly basis, and they always said they did not even have to give you the 5 miles over the limit that everyone feels entitled to if they did not want. They usually will, but they told me that they have actually ticketed people for going 1 mile over if the driver had a sh**** attitude. Now this was not in Florida.

memason 11-12-2014 07:07 AM

I believe a small variance over the speed limit is normal for most police officers.

A speedometer is a mechanical device that has some amount of error. That error is probably linear, if your speedometer is off by 2 mph at 30 mph, it might be off by 5 or 6 mph at 60 mph and above.

In my car, the error is actually under, so at 70mph, I'm actually doing about 67 or so.

PaPaLarry 11-12-2014 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 966762)
the path on Hillsborough is ON the road, just as it is in many neighborhoods

I understand that the cart path is the road, but on your original post, you had said you were "Going down the road" not mentioning cart path road, so I understood it as in the open road like Morse or Buena Vista!!! No mention of cart path road, so I mis understood. Sorry. Your post said ..." We were going down the road in our cart and a speeding dump truck almost took us out. He missed us by inches".

Challenger 11-12-2014 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 967140)
I believe a small variance over the speed limit is normal for most police officers.

A speedometer is a mechanical device that has some amount of error. That error is probably linear, if your speedometer is off by 2 mph at 30 mph, it might be off by 5 or 6 mph at 60 mph and above.

In my car, the error is actually under, so at 70mph, I'm actually doing about 67 or so.

On my current car (2014 Saburu Outback AWD) the variance is 2 mph- linear. EX. reads 40 - actual 38.
It has been the same on at least my last 5 new cars, Japanese, Korean, and Lincoln Navigator.

dave from deland 11-12-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by VT2TV (Post 967101)
I have never heard of anywhere that a speeding ticket cannot be issued if you are doing less than 5 miles over the speed limit. I have spent quite alot of time with police officers on a friendly basis, and they always said they did not even have to give you the 5 miles over the limit that everyone feels entitled to if they did not want. They usually will, but they told me that they have actually ticketed people for going 1 mile over if the driver had a sh**** attitude. Now this was not in Florida.

Police officers in Florida can stop you for doing up to 5 mph over the limit and check your drivers license, registration and insurance but not issue a ticket for exceeding the speed limit.

redwitch 11-12-2014 07:59 AM

Sadly, this is a common complaint and issue, especially in the new neighborhoods. I'm pretty cautious in my golf cart in general but even more so when driving on a main street where I'm sharing the road. When I have to drive on Hillsborough or another main drag with construction, I hold my breath.

I know you won't like this, but here are a couple of suggestions to make you a little safer: take Pinellas as much as possible. Cut across Charlotte or Anne Maria, whichever is closer to your destination. Try not to be on the road early in the morning, lunch time or quitting time. It is inconvenient but much safer and repeat this mantra, "This too shall pass. Buildings almost done here." I say this through gritted teeth a lot.

janmcn 11-12-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dave from deland (Post 967160)
Police officers in Florida can stop you for doing up to 5 mph over the limit and check your drivers license, registration and insurance but not issue a ticket for exceeding the speed limit.


Is it correct that a person can drive 20mph in a school zone and not get ticketed?

Average Guy 11-12-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dave from deland (Post 967160)
Police officers in Florida can stop you for doing up to 5 mph over the limit and check your drivers license, registration and insurance but not issue a ticket for exceeding the speed limit.

I had never heard of this before, so I did a Google search, and it is correct, except for in a legally posted school zone.

"(b) For moving violations involving unlawful speed, the fines are as follows:

For speed exceeding the limit by: Fine:

1-5 m.p.h..........Warning

6-9 m.p.h..........$25

10-14 m.p.h..........$100

15-19 m.p.h..........$150

20-29 m.p.h..........$175

30 m.p.h. and above..........$250
(c) Notwithstanding paragraph (b), a person cited for exceeding the speed limit by up to 5 m.p.h. in a legally posted school zone will be fined $50. A person exceeding the speed limit in a school zone or designated school crossing shall pay a fine double the amount listed in paragraph (b)."

Source: Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

Bizdoc 11-12-2014 01:27 PM

Of course, if you are exceeding 19.9 mph in your golf cart on a street (even if in the golf cart lane), you are actually operating an unlicensed and uninsured motor vehicle on a public street. The tickets for that are a bit more than speeding and (as a number of people have found out) will be issued. Good luck with the judge.

joldnol 11-12-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 967307)
Of course, if you are exceeding 19.9 mph in your golf cart on a street (even if in the golf cart lane), you are actually operating an unlicensed and uninsured motor vehicle on a public street. The tickets for that are a bit more than speeding and (as a number of people have found out) will be issued. Good luck with the judge.

not a problem, my club car maxes out at about 19.5

rubicon 11-12-2014 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VT2TV (Post 967101)
I have never heard of anywhere that a speeding ticket cannot be issued if you are doing less than 5 miles over the speed limit. I have spent quite alot of time with police officers on a friendly basis, and they always said they did not even have to give you the 5 miles over the limit that everyone feels entitled to if they did not want. They usually will, but they told me that they have actually ticketed people for going 1 mile over if the driver had a sh**** attitude. Now this was not in Florida.

I was given a ticket for going 5mph over the speed limit and hired an attorney .

the attorney spoke with a judge friend wo told him that the ticket was for exceeding the speed limit and legally while the cop was being a horses a-- he was on legal ground. I had to pay the fine and my insurance company inflected their pain.

BobnBev 11-12-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 967358)
not a problem, my club car maxes out at about 19.5

Mine also...I just wish they would ticket the ones with souped up carts. The ones that go flying past me in the car lane, when I am in the GC lane.

Show them no mercy, Deputy.:bowdown:

Sandtrap328 11-12-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 967364)
I was given a ticket for going 5mph over the speed limit and hired an attorney .

the attorney spoke with a judge friend wo told him that the ticket was for exceeding the speed limit and legally while the cop was being a horses a-- he was on legal ground. I had to pay the fine and my insurance company inflected their pain.


Well, you did break the law, didn't you?

joldnol 11-13-2014 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaPaLarry (Post 967147)
I understand that the cart path is the road, but on your original post, you had said you were "Going down the road" not mentioning cart path road, so I understood it as in the open road like Morse or Buena Vista!!! No mention of cart path road, so I mis understood. Sorry. Your post said ..." We were going down the road in our cart and a speeding dump truck almost took us out. He missed us by inches".


thought I was clear, my bad

"should be set up along Hillsborough and ticket the speeding construction vehicles. We were going down the road in our cart and a speeding dump truck almost took us out. He missed us by inches."

karostay 11-13-2014 08:20 AM

Local authorities can issues tickets 24/7 nothing will change
Morons are Morons

BobnBev 11-13-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 967584)
Local authorities can issues tickets 24/7 nothing will change
Morons are Morons

I think your post needs a little explaining. Who are the morons.....the cops or the violators getting the tickets? :shrug:

GatorFan 11-13-2014 06:16 PM

On 441 this morning going South to Starbucks. Shocked at how many ran red lights. Coming back same thing.

CFrance 11-13-2014 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 966760)
This was advice to the speeders and to point out that the enforcement is more than minimal.....whatever that is.

Did you mean, N'est pas?

No, he meant n'est-ce pas.

Sandtrap328 11-13-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 967911)
No, he meant n'est-ce pas.

Thank you. The phrase sounds so much better in French than the "nicht wahr" in German, doesn't it?

CFrance 11-13-2014 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 967951)
Thank you. The phrase sounds so much better in French than the "nicht wahr" in German, doesn't it?

Ah oui!


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