Christians - Do You Believe The King James Bible
 

To be the only translation of the hebrew and greek writings that are true?
I see the new translations are different in some places. I think one of the biggest which could be a huge deception is about the mark of the beast.

King James version of Revelations 13:16 16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (in as in a chip)

I believe the King James Bible is the correct one as I worked with a person who helped bring about barcodeing and every bar code has 666 in it.

The newer translations say the mark will be planted on the right hand or on the forehead. (I think of something like a tattoo)

Snopes says no relation between barcodes and 666

Do I believe that Noah found a pair of penguins, a pair of polar bears, and a pair of kangaroos in the Middle East? Not really.

There are many versions of Sacred Scripture.
 

•The Latin Vulgate (390-405).
•The Douay-Rheims Version (1582-1610).
•The Challoner-Rheims Version (1749-1777).
•The Westminster Version of the Sacred Scriptures (1935). unofficial
•The New Testament ... with Explanatory Notes (1954). unofficial
•The Confraternity Version of the New Testament (1941).
•The Knox Translation (1955).
•The Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (1965).
•The Jerusalem Bible (1966).
•The New American Bible (1970-1983).
•The New Jerusalem Bible (1985).
•The Inclusive New Testament (1994). unofficial
King James Version
New International Version
Revised Standard Version
The Living Bible
New Living Translation
World English Bible
New King James Version
New International Readers Editions
American Standard Version
New American Standard Version
Young's Literal Translation
Plain English Bible
New English Bible
Amplified Bible
Basic English Bible
Translator's NT
20th Century Bible
Modern King James Version
The Message
New Jerusalem Bible
Hebrew Names Version of World English Bible
Contemporary English Version
English Version for the Death
Good News Version
New Century Version
New Revised Standard Version
J. B. Phillips New Testament, modern English
These too; http://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia...s-of-the-bible

But if you try to love your neighbor as yourself and keep the commandments then you are doing well.

My faith does not teach the literal interpretation of the Bible. The old testament was before Christ was born and the new testament was after Christ lived. Some of the Bible was meant to be history and some was meant to be moral teachings. . Many were traditions and laws that were used that have no bearing on life today. Such as some what is clean and unclean.

Revelation is from the old testament. You would have to have the wisdom of Solomon to really make sense of it. And unless you are fluent in the old languages, there is no way to argue what was originally written and what it meant.

Perhaps you are right. I think you believe with your whole heart you are right. I respect your beliefs and wish you well.I know God loves you.

Gracie, you are so insightful, it is a joy to read your posts. thank You!!!:agree::agree:

As I Said Before I
 

Worked with a person who help create the barcode and he had said they all have 666 in them.

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Having been raised on an intense diet of instruction in King James Bible in one of the staunchest Protestant denominations, and then having been Catholic, I'd say it's good to remember that for all its human faults, the Catholic Church brought the Bible thru the ages long before the King James translation came along.

See the list starting with the Latin Vulgate as Gracie posted.

And about the Old Testament, this is key:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!

26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?”

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

Luke 24 NIV

And regarding the mark of the beast in Revelation 13, it is clearly stated here in the modern Catholic Bible online:

16
It forced all the people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be given a stamped image on their right hands or their foreheads,
17
so that no one could buy or sell except one who had the stamped image of the beast’s name or the number that stood for its name.
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Wisdom is needed here; one who understands can calculate the number of the beast, for it is a number that stands for a person. His number is six hundred and sixty-six.

Catholic Bible Revelation 13

The footnoted cross-references and commentaries at the end of the chapters are interesting, too.

Luke 24: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...24&version=NIV

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It was my
 

Understanding that the King James Bible opened up all the words of the Bible so everyone new what was being said in the Bible. The protestant religions came about after the words were opened up. (Protesting)

If the newer ones say stamped or on the right hand or forehead and the churches are following these, their followers could possibly take the mark of the beast as it is not on but in.

I never suspected.....

Gracie-
Re "Revelation is from the old testament. You would have to have the wisdom of Solomon to really make sense of it. And unless you are fluent in the old languages, there is no way to argue what was originally written and what it meant."
Agree that Revelation is a difficult read, but it is not from the Old Testament, unless I misunderstood your comment. It is the last book of the New Testament.

:bowdown: Amen Sister... I really, really like your post and respect you for saying it.

Great post, Gracie! I was raised as you were, and my belief is based thusly.

A bar-code conspiracy?
Is your chemtrail conspiracy also mentioned in Revelations?

I was really looking
 

for Christians to comment on this. Would you say this to people of other religions?

Tis the season to be jolly fa la la la la la la la la.

Thank You For The Beautiful Song! What a refreshing group!

Let us all keep Christ in Christmas (:

Now dats what um talkin bout! Very nice.

Christ knows those who trust and believe Him by faith.

By faith we can trust Him to spare us when He returns. Believers don't have to argue our case and submit briefs on why we read a certain version of the Scriptures!

“How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.”

25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me.

26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.

30 I and My Father are one.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...0&version=NKJV

Guess I'm a little dense, but I don't grasp the difference between translations that say the mark of the beast will be "in" the right hand or forehead and those that say the mark will be "on" the right hand or forehead. Explanation please.

I want to hear more defending Noah finding the penguins and kangaroos in the Middle East.

I think that the penguins and the kangaroos looked at each other and said "You mean that we were supposed to be there today?"!

Z

Forget penguins and kangaroos...Noah had bigger problems.

I guess there really is not going to be anyone who really can contribute to my question on the King James Bible versus the newer translations. Are you people who have come in on this thread Christians?

That is a hauntingly lovely song, just beautiful, thanks for posting the link.

Yes, every word.

Nice post.
 

Like your wisdom Graciegirl. I majored in Religious Studies at the University of Nevada, Reno while getting two BAs in Philosophy and History.

Just think what The Bible would look like if it were written in 2014 by the powers that be? We would have Grimm fairy tales thrown in with Rap music, arguments about Global Warming, various pictures of the kardashians, crap from ISIS relating to the Revelations, and probably some songs by Taylor Swift. The powerful usually write the religious tracts. Henry VIII sure was busy when he was re-writing the religious tracts for the Anglican Church, for instance. But then came Bloody Mary to try to reset everything Henry VIII tried to do.

I prefer to believe in Aesop's Fables...they make more sense...

Few people on their deathbeds would ask to hear the wisdom in Aesop's Fables that is instructive for this life, which for them, is ending.

But many do ask to hear from a minister or priest on how to be in peace for the eternity they clearly sense is coming. Ask ER drs., nurses and ministers what atheists are screaming as they exit this life in abject terror. It is anything but peaceful, and it's agony to witness it.

Jesus said:

24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...5&version=NKJV

You are saying the Bible is false? Where is your proof. I am amazed at the non christians who have come into this thread!

Archeology has proven most everything in the Bible! How about the dead sea scrolls that have new testament scripture?

There is only one that was translated by the will of GOD and it is the King James Bible the 1st translation. America was founded on this book!

I just looked at your OP, and it's true that you did ask your question of Christians.
I admire your dedication to your religious beliefs.
However please don't be upset that the the nature of open exchange on this Forum means that you may also hear from non Christians, as well as from people who have religious opinions which are quite different from your own.

Sophie, If you study your Bible history, you will realize that the King James Bible was a translation taken from other Bibles of the time. Primarily the Bishop's Bible. Granted that King James was the first English language translation used by the masses. However, I would much rather put my faith in a Bible like my own. The NASB which was a direct literal translation from the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. At least i know that no personal opinions from the middle ages are influencing the translation.

Pastor Anderson from Tempe, AZ has been preaching on this subject for awhile. He has a new video coming out in December on New World Order versions of the Bible. Here's the trailer:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2gjhG8zJ4g]New World Order Bible Versions - Trailer 1 - YouTube[/ame]

I didn't read that Taltarzac thought the Bible was false.

Reread what he said.

Remember too Sophie, that Christianity is 2000 years old, much older than our country.

Do you know why it is called the King James version? In 1611 King James ordered the current Bible rewritten for the people of the time and the Church of England. (The Anglican Church)

I don't like for people to scoff at another's faith either Sophie. There will always be agnostics and atheists. Take comfort in your faith and live your life so that people see a good thing to be drawn to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

Well said Bare.
Not only do Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics, and Theists disagree, but virtually every subgroup of all religions disagree with each other on key points, and interpret their ancient writings in vastly contradictory ways. The Bible was written by scholars who probably made up many stories (Noah, Jonah) as cautionary tales to keep their flock in line and scare them from straying from religious dogma. I believe in God and attend church, but don't put too much faith in the people who manage religious organizations, as they have proven time and again not to be Godly people. I believe we would all be better off just living by the Golden Rule.