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redwitch 01-13-2015 11:02 AM

Major accident on Morse
 
Not sure if cleared up, yet, but suggest you stay away from Morse between 466 and Rio Grande. Cars and carts were being detoured onto side streets. Would have been okay but with lawn workers and moving vans blocking a lane and people not willing to take turns to get around them, a minor inconvenience became an hour and a half of impatience.

Don't know what happened and truly hoping everyone is okay or minor injuries, at most.

Bonny 01-13-2015 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 994854)
Not sure if cleared up, yet, but suggest you stay away from Morse between 466 and Rio Grande. Cars and carts were being detoured onto side streets. Would have been okay but with lawn workers and moving vans blocking a lane and people not willing to take turns to get around them, a minor inconvenience became an hour and a half of impatience.

Don't know what happened and truly hoping everyone is okay or minor injuries, at most.

When I saw the thread topic saying, Major, I thought this was a really bad serious accident !
Hopefully it's not and everyone will be okay.

redwitch 01-13-2015 11:05 AM

Sigh, not so minor. The not to be named Villages news source says a head-on crash between golf cart and mini-van. Accident occurred at 9:30 am, traffic still jammed up and being detoured at 10:30.

downeaster 01-13-2015 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 994854)
Not sure if cleared up, yet, but suggest you stay away from Morse between 466 and Rio Grande. Cars and carts were being detoured onto side streets. Would have been okay but with lawn workers and moving vans blocking a lane and people not willing to take turns to get around them, a minor inconvenience became an hour and a half of impatience.

Don't know what happened and truly hoping everyone is okay or minor injuries, at most.

The local news outlet we are forbidden to name has an article and pics.

Bonny 01-13-2015 11:12 AM

Just read the article and saw the pictures ! :(
Praying that everyone will be okay.
They didn't say if the golf cart driver got thrown out. Hopefully he/she didn't.

Chatbrat 01-13-2015 11:42 AM

AS I said in the past--Golf Carts are not toys--if you tie with a car--guess who loses ? no excuse not to get seat belts !!!

NYGUY 01-13-2015 11:43 AM

A head-on collision would mean that one of the vehicles was on the wrong side of the road....hope everyone is OK!!

onslowe 01-13-2015 12:01 PM

Tragic. The golf cart driver died. Prayers for all involved.

Bonny 01-13-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by onslowe (Post 994887)
Tragic. The golf cart driver died. Prayers for all involved.

OMG !! How tragic. Prayers for the family and all involved.

graciegirl 01-13-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by onslowe (Post 994887)
Tragic. The golf cart driver died. Prayers for all involved.


Oh dear. I will add my prayers. Please all drive carefully.

Bonny 01-13-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NYGUY (Post 994880)
A head-on collision would mean that one of the vehicles was on the wrong side of the road....hope everyone is OK!!

Or someone was turning in front of the other.

joldnol 01-13-2015 12:36 PM

tragic

bagboy 01-13-2015 12:47 PM

Sadly the driver of the golf cart did not survive the accident per an online news source. I don't know if it would have made any difference but installing seat belts on your golf cart is the best money you will ever spend here in The Villages.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-13-2015 12:57 PM

I was coming north on Morse from 466 and traffic was back up all the way through the gate.
They rerouted us through Carrera Drive. When I came out onto Morse on the north end of Carrera I could see the accident.

It looked to me that there were at least two cars and two golf carts involved. One car was well up into the embankment and I could see one of the golf carts was severely damaged.

I can't imagine what happened. Its a fairly straight section of road with no intersection nearby.

Maybe someone had a heart attack or stroke while driving.

joldnol 01-13-2015 01:00 PM

paper said the golf cart turned in front of the van

rdhdleo 01-13-2015 01:02 PM

So very sad prayers for all those involved. From the pictures it looks like the van may have tried to avoid the golf cart. I just wish everyone would be more careful. A golf cart is never a match for a car or van or truck. Remember also that many here driving vehicles do not have the sharp reflexes they once had to avoid an accident. Don't take a chance thinking you can beat that car. I'm not saying this is what happened but I have seen it so very often.

Again prayers for all parties involved!

gerryann 01-13-2015 01:13 PM

A man driving a golf cart that collided with a mini-van this morning on Morse Boulevard has died.

The man, whose name has not been released pending notification of next of kin, was transported to The Villages Regional Hospital after suffering critical injuries in the accident. He was later pronounced dead at TVRH.

His golf cart had been traveling south on Morse Boulevard in the golf cart lane near Fuentez Avenue, according to an accident report from the Florida Highway Patrol.

The golf cart driver had made a left turn onto Fuentez Avenue, turning into the path of a van driven by 80-year-old Wendell Jesseman of The Villages.

Jesseman and a passenger in the van, 80-year-old Erline Jesseman also of The Villages, were not injured, according to the FHP report. However, they were evaluated by EMS personnel at the crash site.

NYGUY 01-13-2015 01:18 PM

The other paper is now saying the golf cart turned left in front of the van. How very sad!!....my prayers for family and friends!!....it's very dangerous out there, drive carefully!!!

NotGolfer 01-13-2015 01:30 PM

I read the article and the comments offered below. One person was an eye-witness to the accident and said the golf-cart driver was at fault and the van didn't have a chance of missing him. I think "some" drivers of carts drive aggressively...we've all seen it....I've seen where they should have waited but didn't. If you do make it, it's your guardian angel watching over you for sure. I keep saying "golf carts so NOT have the right of way!" People's depth perception changes as they grow older as well as reflexes. So being extra careful is the antidote to the issues with driving now matter the vehicle.

If the deceased has a wife, what a call to get! For his family members and friends, such saddness to have bestowned upon them! Prayers for comfort at this time!!

rdhdleo 01-13-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 994966)
I read the article and the comments offered below. One person was an eye-witness to the accident and said the golf-cart driver was at fault and the van didn't have a chance of missing him. I think "some" drivers of carts drive aggressively...we've all seen it....I've seen where they should have waited but didn't. If you do make it, it's your guardian angel watching over you for sure. I keep saying "golf carts so NOT have the right of way!" People's depth perception changes as they grow older as well as reflexes. So being extra careful is the antidote to the issues with driving now matter the vehicle.

If the deceased has a wife, what a call to get! For his family members and friends, such saddness to have bestowned upon them! Prayers for comfort at this time!!

Pretty much what I was trying to say but you said it so much better! I agree!

Taltarzac725 01-13-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 994966)
I read the article and the comments offered below. One person was an eye-witness to the accident and said the golf-cart driver was at fault and the van didn't have a chance of missing him. I think "some" drivers of carts drive aggressively...we've all seen it....I've seen where they should have waited but didn't. If you do make it, it's your guardian angel watching over you for sure. I keep saying "golf carts so NOT have the right of way!" People's depth perception changes as they grow older as well as reflexes. So being extra careful is the antidote to the issues with driving now matter the vehicle.

If the deceased has a wife, what a call to get! For his family members and friends, such saddness to have bestowned upon them! Prayers for comfort at this time!!

Sorry to hear this tragic news.

mixsonci 01-13-2015 02:30 PM

I am new here,so maybe a silly question, but Morse seems much more dangerous to me than Buena Vista, yet golf carts are not allowed on BV but they evidently are on Morse? Is that correct? Seems rather poor planning? Morse also seems to be much busier thanBV?

Taltarzac725 01-13-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mixsonci (Post 994994)
I am new here,so maybe a silly question, but Morse seems much more dangerous to me than Buena Vista, yet golf carts are not allowed on BV but they evidently are on Morse? Is that correct? Seems rather poor planning? Morse also seems to be much busier thanBV?

Buena Vista has a path far to one side. They did not seem to really anticipate the success of the Villages at one time, so some parts have much narrower streets. They did broaden Morse north of CR466 about 18 months ago.

Bogie Shooter 01-13-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 994858)
Sigh, not so minor. The not to be named Villages news source says a head-on crash between golf cart and mini-van. Accident occurred at 9:30 am, traffic still jammed up and being detoured at 10:30.

I didn't read anything about a head-on crash. Golf cart made a left turn into path of minivan.

Bogie Shooter 01-13-2015 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mixsonci (Post 994994)
I am new here,so maybe a silly question, but Morse seems much more dangerous to me than Buena Vista, yet golf carts are not allowed on BV but they evidently are on Morse? Is that correct? Seems rather poor planning? Morse also seems to be much busier thanBV?

Had nothing to do with your perception of Morse being much more dangerous or poor planning. A golf cart made a left turn in front of a van!

cromlich 01-13-2015 03:14 PM

This is almost the same exact spot where my accident was 2-13-14. A car pulled in front of us at Carrera as we were headed South. I've had 3 surgeries since then and lost the hearing in my left ear. People please be careful out there. Seat belts should be manatory. I have them in my golf cart. There are a lot of folks out there right now that just don't understand the rules of the road. I do not travel Morse in a golf cart anymore during SB season. I'm praying for the family of the deceased. I know I am lucky to be alive.

Bonanza 01-13-2015 03:25 PM

I am a huge believer in seat belts. However, from the sound of this accident, I don't think even that would have helped. This is very sad for all involved. The poor driver of the van will relive this accident every day for the rest of his life.

Yes -- very sad for everyone.

Bonny 01-13-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cromlich (Post 995017)
This is almost the same exact spot where my accident was 2-13-14. A car pulled in front of us at Carrera as we were headed South. I've had 3 surgeries since then and lost the hearing in my left ear. People please be careful out there. Seat belts should be manatory. I have them in my golf cart. There are a lot of folks out there right now that just don't understand the rules of the road. I do not travel Morse in a golf cart anymore during SB season. I'm praying for the family of the deceased. I know I am lucky to be alive.

Wow, so sorry to hear this. Thank God you're here to talk about it.

NYGUY 01-13-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 995011)
I didn't read anything about a head-on crash. Golf cart made a left turn into path of minivan.

Bogie, the original story in the other paper said it was a head-on crash....they later changed it to a left turn in front of the van.

Bonny 01-13-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 995026)
I am a huge believer in seat belts. However, from the sound of this accident, I don't think even that would have helped. This is very sad for all involved. The poor driver of the van will relive this accident every day for the rest of his life.

Yes -- very sad for everyone.

My guess looking at the picture of the golf cart, he was thrown out of it.

cromlich 01-13-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 995027)
Wow, so sorry to hear this. Thank God you're here to talk about it.

Thank you so much! I feel blessed to be alive. What happened to us was we were headed South on Morse at Carrerra. My friend was driving the GC and I being the passenger. Traffic was backed up from Rio Grande to 466 and a truck motioned for the car that they were allowing them a left hand turn on Carrerra. The poor man that we hit didn't realize the path was not clear and pulled directly in front of us. My side of the cart hit the car and luckily I was not thrown out but forward. I tore my thumb loose from my hand, had a back injury and my third surgery was ACL, Meniscus repair of my R knee. I lost the hearing in my left ear from a concussion I suffered above my eye. I've been praying for the couple in the car because I know they didn't mean to pull in front of us. God blessed me that day! I could be dead.......another rule of thumb....it is our responsibility to make sure the path is clear if someone is motioning that they are being kind enough to let us through.

rubicon 01-13-2015 03:56 PM

I happened on that scene around 10:00 AM or so and saw several police fire units and recognized it was a serious mishap. Traffic was rerouted. i turned around in Del a Vista and went back to 441/and around.

This accident is the exact reason I hesitate to travel Morse by cart. You can bet that police monitoring of speed traffic etc will occur after this fatality

so sorry for the family

gatherer47 01-13-2015 04:03 PM

Even though driver error caused this accident,Morse Blvd is very dangerous for golf carts.Any logical person would rather be on a separate golf cart path[yes where accidents can still occur] than to be on a heavily traveled street where only a white painted line separates you from automobiles.

raynan 01-13-2015 04:13 PM

WESH2NEWS just reported the accident on the news that the fatality was a Frances Hughes. May he rest in peace.

Taltarzac725 01-13-2015 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by raynan (Post 995047)
WESH2NEWS just reported the accident on the news that the fatality was a Frances Hughes. May he rest in peace.

Here's a link from WESH.com.

FHP: Man, 86, dies after golf cart crash with minivan in The Villages | Local News - WESH Home

Madelaine Amee 01-13-2015 05:32 PM

This was taken from an email written to the online newspaper, and it is so true:

Rule #2 – Golf carts do not have the “Right of way” when they decide to cross into the automobile lane to their left. The only legal places to move to the left in a golf cart is where the line is “Dashed”, not “Solid”, or at an intersection. Too many cart drivers “cheat over” before they get to the area where the line is dashed, thereby creating a hazard by cutting in front of cars going at the speed limit. Where the lines before a gate indicate that carts should merge left, they should still yield to cars on their left.

Because of where we live, we see this exact same driving at a local intersection, and not only do the carts cut across our lane, they do so at a high speed. I cannot tell you how many times we have received the middle finger salute or had the "F" word flung at us when a golf cart has crossed our lane to turn left.

Unfortunately, it was a fatality waiting to happen. I am sure the golf cart driver had done this maneuver numerous times before and gotten away with it. My sympathy lies with the occupants of the car. How does one sleep after you have killed someone in an accident such as this?

golf2140 01-13-2015 05:54 PM

Don't put blame on the roadway.

Uptown Girl 01-13-2015 05:54 PM

The report made it sound like driver of the golf car made a left turn from the right (golf car ) lane.
Please, TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE NEW to driving in a golf car:
:gc:

When you want to make a left turn, it is proper to:

Use your mirrors to check what traffic is to the rear of your vehicle (just like in an auto)

Signal your intent AHEAD of time and ENTER the left lane when it is safe to do so.

Once you are in the left lane, when oncoming traffic is gone, make your left turn.

Non- street legal Golf cars ARE allowed to be in the left hand lane for this purpose. I think some folks really don't know this.
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I have TWICE had the scare of rental golf cars spontaneously turning left from the right hand lane, crossing (with inches to spare) in front of my automobile…. one flapped her hand at me (signal?) while passing my front end- but I had NO advance warning in either case.
On both occasions, they were headed into Sterling Heights recreation center.

Thank G-d my reflexes kicked in and twice accidents were avoided- and Thank G-d there was no one behind ME as I jerked to a sudden stop. Thank G-d my heart palpitations quieted afterwards.


I would so like to see a manual given with every golf car purchased (or rented) here:
Rules of the Road for new golf car drivers in The Villages.

Be alert and sensible, so you may enjoy and live to tell the tale. Please.

redwitch 01-13-2015 06:06 PM

From the reports I've read, I can't quite figure out if the golf cart was headed south on Morse and planning to turn left into Fuentes or was turning left from Fuentes onto Morse southbound. Either way, he pulled out in front of the mini-van. From the look if the pictures, I'd guess left from Fuentes.

Having lived near there, I know how frustrating it can be to sit and wait to turn left, whether in a car or a cart, especially during the snowbird season. I once sat for 35 minutes before being able to SAFELY turn left. We won't even discuss the very real fear of moving into the roadway to turn into my mini-village. I was not sorry to move. Unfortunately, this poor gentleman either thought he could safely cross or got tired of waiting and decided to chance it.

My prayers go out to his family and to the people in the mini-van.

rjm1cc 01-13-2015 06:20 PM

A good reminder that we should follow the rules of the road and be extra careful as we are all getting older and may not be able to react as fast as we did yesterday.


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