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chachacha 01-17-2015 10:08 PM

American Sniper
 
this is an excellent film and a piece of our history. clint eastwood directed so you know that part is going to be done very well....bradley cooper must have really had to bulk up to play Chris Kyle, a legendary navy seal sniper who saved many lives during four tours in iraq...his acting was superb as well as that of sienna miller who played his wife...i have seen his real life wife on tv saying that the film is very accurate in portraying their lives and what a soldier goes through. the lines were practically out the door at LSL and i think this one will be a best seller for weeks to come.

MikeV 01-18-2015 07:42 AM

Saw it and really liked it.

Taltarzac725 01-18-2015 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 997115)
this is an excellent film and a piece of our history. clint eastwood directed so you know that part is going to be done very well....bradley cooper must have really had to bulk up to play Chris Kyle, a legendary navy seal sniper who saved many lives during four tours in iraq...his acting was superb as well as that of sienna miller who played his wife...i have seen his real life wife on tv saying that the film is very accurate in portraying their lives and what a soldier goes through. the lines were practically out the door at LSL and i think this one will be a best seller for weeks to come.

Thanks for that review.

rubicon 01-18-2015 08:31 AM

With the prices I pay comcast I'll wait until it hits a premium station:cus:

villagetinker 01-18-2015 09:29 AM

This film is worth the price. This is the best film I have seen in years. My advice, go see it.

GatorFan 01-18-2015 09:57 AM

Great picture. First movie I have gone to that there was dead silence at the end. Respect to all our veterans and active military who serve our country.

chachacha 01-18-2015 10:32 AM

the audience applauded at the showing i attended! i suggest also it is worth the price to see it on the big screen and with other people...you can feel the connection between us all as americans. and you can't get that from comcast.

John_W 01-18-2015 10:37 AM

I was ready for a big letdown. Seems everything is usually overrated. Turned out to be great, gave it a 10!

GeoGeo 01-18-2015 11:41 AM

Thanks for the review. Read the book and couldn't put it down. Can't wait to see the movie.

Taltarzac725 01-18-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 997239)
I was ready for a big letdown. Seems everything is usually overrated. Turned out to be great, gave it a 10!

It is at two theaters in the Villages-- Barnstorm and Old Mill Playhouse. So there seems to be a lot of opportunities to see it.

jebartle 01-18-2015 01:49 PM

Movie was good
 
but left with a heavy heart, I had to close my eyes during many parts of movie....Even thou a true story, difficult for me to watch...Will save this film for tough guys, I'm a wimp!

zcaveman 01-18-2015 02:47 PM

I will wait until it comes out on NetFlix and watch it in the comfort of my home.

Z

Shimpy 01-18-2015 06:16 PM

Just got home from seeing it at Brownwood and the line to go in was out the door. They are saying probably the picture of the year. I read the book and the movie condenses it quite a bit of course, but is an excellent movie. I highly recommend it and gives you an appreciation for those doing combat.

blue72 01-18-2015 10:29 PM

Very well done
Excellent movie
As always, great respect for the guys and girls in our military.

chachacha 01-20-2015 12:30 AM

the film just broke all records for box office on a weekend in january....deservedly so!

Thnonne 01-20-2015 04:46 PM

Just saw it at LSL, what a great film and a tribute to U.S. armed forces. When I got home I went on the internet to learn more about Chris Kyle. I was disappointed to read about Hollywood types condemning the movie and Chris Kyle. Particularly Michael Moore who has a rep for these type of attacks, my suggestion is to never support any work he does so he loses the platform he uses. Let us praise Chris Kyle and all the men like him who served and continue to serve our country.

Taltarzac725 01-20-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thnonne (Post 998470)
Just saw it at LSL, what a great film and a tribute to U.S. armed forces. When I got home I went on the internet to learn more about Chris Kyle. I was disappointed to read about Hollywood types condemning the movie and Chris Kyle. Particularly Michael Moore who has a rep for these type of attacks, my suggestion is to never support any work he does so he loses the platform he uses. Let us praise Chris Kyle and all the men like him who served and continue to serve our country.

Clint Eastwood is a Hollywood type. You will not really see consensus on any topic from Hollywood.

villagetinker 01-20-2015 09:08 PM

Amen to the comment on Michael Moore.

Jaggy 01-22-2015 05:39 PM

Just saw this movie and to describe my feelings at the end , they were some of the same feelings I had after 911.. closeness to my fellow americans.. I just wanted to give everyone a hug..The theater was dead silent during the credits.. <sigh> Go see the movie in the theater with your fellow Villagers .. you won't regret it.

blueash 01-22-2015 08:51 PM

Interesting background to the story told in the book and during the promotional tour for the book by Mr. Kyle. And it was this story, as you will read, that got the book moving up the best seller list.

Why Did the ‘Deadliest’ SEAL Sniper Punch Jesse Ventura in The Face? | Video | TheBlaze.com

Sniper Admits Punching Jesse Ventura | Military.com

Mr. Kyle it turns out had some difficulty with truth in his book, although his military actions are not lied about. And the movie does not include the lies in his book. Mr Ventura has already been awarded nearly 2 million in a slander lawsuit and stands to receive millions more from the success of this movie.

American Sniper lawsuit: Chris Kyle told lies about Jesse Ventura.

I don't get why someone who could get such community support for his legitimate actions in the military needed to confabulate additional stories. Feet of clay

chachacha 01-22-2015 10:33 PM

i don't think it was the Ventura story which caused the book to skyrocket, but rather Kyle's appearance on O"Reilly which is watched by millions...no one is saying he is a perfect human being, but he certainly is a hero who saved hundreds of lives. no doubt about that.

sunnyatlast 01-22-2015 10:55 PM

Chris Kyle is dead.

Jesse the Body Ventura is alive and needs money because he is a has-been.

End of story.

Madelaine Amee 01-23-2015 04:11 PM

I know very little about this subject, but I am surprised that Dirty Harry did not look further into this persons background before making this movie. The news channels are digging deep into his background.

Taltarzac725 01-24-2015 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 999597)
Interesting background to the story told in the book and during the promotional tour for the book by Mr. Kyle. And it was this story, as you will read, that got the book moving up the best seller list.

Why Did the ‘Deadliest’ SEAL Sniper Punch Jesse Ventura in The Face? | Video | TheBlaze.com

Sniper Admits Punching Jesse Ventura | Military.com

Mr. Kyle it turns out had some difficulty with truth in his book, although his military actions are not lied about. And the movie does not include the lies in his book. Mr Ventura has already been awarded nearly 2 million in a slander lawsuit and stands to receive millions more from the success of this movie.

American Sniper lawsuit: Chris Kyle told lies about Jesse Ventura.

I don't get why someone who could get such community support for his legitimate actions in the military needed to confabulate additional stories. Feet of clay


Thanks for the background on aspects of Chris Kyle's personality. Think what he went through for his country. I doubt if you find many flawless heroes especially those with the sensitivities forced out by war memories.

blueash 01-24-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 999664)
Chris Kyle is dead.

Jesse the Body Ventura is alive and needs money because he is a has-been.

End of story.

The slander suit was filed well before Kyle's sudden death. A court of citizens decided that Mr. Ventura deserved the money because of Mr. Kyle's actions. Appeals courts have also agreed that the trial and judgment of the jury were proper

blueash 01-24-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 999652)
i don't think it was the Ventura story which caused the book to skyrocket, but rather Kyle's appearance on O"Reilly which is watched by millions...no one is saying he is a perfect human being, but he certainly is a hero who saved hundreds of lives. no doubt about that.

I don't know if you read the link I posted from Slate.com. Your claim about his appearance on OReilly is correct. But he made his slanderous claim on that TV show. Here is the pertinent paragraph:

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Early drafts of the book identified the SEAL as Jesse Ventura, former governor of Minnesota and famed professional wrestler, but Kyle’s publishers removed the name for fear of a lawsuit. Nonetheless, in a radio interview following the book’s release, Kyle admitted that “Scruff Face” was Ventura, and he repeated the claim soon after on The O’Reilly Factor. American Sniper shot to the top of Amazon’s best-seller list, becoming a smash hit for its publisher

graciegirl 01-24-2015 09:49 AM

I don't understand. I haven't seen the movie but know who Chris Kyle is. Was he played by someone who was/is controversial?

blueash 01-24-2015 10:00 AM

Lest anyone claim that the O'Reilly Factor interview was not all about pushing the Jesse Ventura story, Fox does post transcripts of the show:
It began and more than 50% of the interview was about Ventura. Where it reads start Video, it is a video of Ventura. Draw your own conclusion about Mr. Kyle's approach to avoiding the cops with his "Punch and run" philosophy.

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This is a RUSH transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," January 05, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
Watch "The O'Reilly Factor" weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET!
BILL O'REILLY, HOST: "Personal Story" segment tonight, Chief Chris Kyle, a Navy SEAL, is officially the most lethal sniper in U.S. military history. The chief has written a brand-new book called "American Sniper" that chronicles his amazing story in Iraq. I spoke with him last night.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

O'REILLY: So Chief, I read your book. Very entertaining. I recommend it for my audience. I think they'll like it.

First of all, you said you knocked Jesse Ventura to the floor with a punch. Now you don't mention his name, but everybody knows who that is. No. 1, that happened? Knocked him out?

CHRIS KYLE, FORMER NAVY SEAL SNIPER: Well, I knocked him down.

O'REILLY: Why? Why would you punch Ventura?

KYLE: It was in '06. It was the year we lost our first two SEALs in Iraq. We came home. We lost our last guy just before coming home. We had the wake in a SEAL bar there in Coronado, and he was there. He was there for a speaking engagement at a bud ceremony, graduating class.

O'REILLY: Because he was a SEAL, right?

KYLE: Yes.

O'REILLY: He was a Navy SEAL. So he was bad mouthing the war. Right?

KYLE: Bad mouthing the war, bad mouthing Bush. Bad mouthing America.

O'REILLY: And you took exception?

KYLE: I did find a problem with it. The family was there. I asked him to please tone it down, that we did not want to upset the family members of Michael Mansoor.

O'REILLY: Who was killed?

KYLE: Yes, sir. And he earned the Medal of Honor. He jumped on a grenade and saved everybody else around.

O'REILLY: But I want to be clear. Ventura wasn't attacking him at all, verbally bashing him. He was just bashing the whole thing in general?

KYLE: Yes, sir. Until he said we deserve to lose a few guys.

O'REILLY: He said we deserve to lose -- we, the United States...

KYLE: No, he said, "You, y'all deserve to lose a few guys."

O'REILLY: Navy SEALs?

KYLE: I am assuming he was saying that to me.

O'REILLY: Was he drunk?

KYLE: No, sir. I never saw him with a drink in hand at all.

O'REILLY: So once he said, "You deserve to lose a few guys," you popped him?

KYLE: Yes, sir.

O'REILLY: Did he fight back?

KYLE: He went down, the cops were there. I took off running.

O'REILLY: You ran?

KYLE: Yes, sir.

O'REILLY: Did they arrest you?

KYLE: No, sir. I have a master chief that always said, punch and run.

O'REILLY: Now if I ask you a tough question, you going to pop me tonight?

KYLE: No."

If you wish to read the shorter remaining part of the interview it is available.
Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History | Fox News

But as you can see, the FIRST item of interest to O'Reilly was the Ventura story which multiple witnesses and photographic records of Mr Ventura from that day convinced a jury was a slanderous lie from which Mr. Kyle monetarily benefited.

graciegirl 01-24-2015 10:06 AM

I still don't get it. The words you printed don't seem controversial.

blueash 01-24-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1000346)
I don't understand. I haven't seen the movie but know who Chris Kyle is. Was he played by someone who was/is controversial?

No issue with the actor or the movie. The issue is not about Mr. Kyle's actions as a sniper in Iraq. The only issue is whether Mr. Kyle was truthful in his book about the other parts of his life, the other actions. I don't own the book but allegedly there are claims of his being on top of the New Orleans Superdome during Katrina shooting looters and other completely made up stuff. (Hard to believe a book publisher would allow such an easily disproven claim to get into a book.) And you be the judge about the character of a person who uses a sucker punch to the face as a response to hurt feelings then runs away before the cops or his victim have a chance to respond.

graciegirl 01-24-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1000369)
No issue with the actor or the movie. The issue is not about Mr. Kyle's actions as a sniper in Iraq. The only issue is whether Mr. Kyle was truthful in his book about the other parts of his life, the other actions. I don't own the book but allegedly there are claims of his being on top of the New Orleans Superdome during Katrina shooting looters and other completely made up stuff. (Hard to believe a book publisher would allow such an easily disproven claim to get into a book.) And you be the judge about the character of a person who uses a sucker punch to the face as a response to hurt feelings then runs away before the cops or his victim have a chance to respond.

Never gave or received a sucker punch. Never witnessed a real one in person. I am sure I have deserved one now and then, and reading the transcript above, I might have been inclined, and I surely would have run.

blueash 01-24-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1000363)
I still don't get it. The words you printed don't seem controversial.

GG, He LIED about it. The event never happened. He made it up. He never hit Jesse Ventura. That is why Mr Ventura sued him, for going on a national TV show watched my millions and lying, creating a story to at least to himself make him a bigger hero, and sell books. That is what the jury found. The controversy about Mr. Kyle has to do with his character, nothing to do with his ability to shoot a gun.

bkcunningham1 01-25-2015 08:12 PM

We just got back from Sumter Landing where we watched the movie with a packed theater. The audience sat silent at the end until the credits rolled and the screen went black. Then there was applause. I cried during the movie and couldn't stop crying for some time after it was over and I walked heavy hearted and sad to the cool night air filled with music playing in the square. The movie takes a raw look at war, life, death, family and the passions that drive us.The clash and similarities of two different cultures and countries made my head reel and made me think. Really think. About life. About children. About God. Good and evil. About the way we are all the same and all so different.

"It's a heck of a thing to stop a beatin' heart."

Wandatime 01-25-2015 09:14 PM

Whatever the protagonist was or was not, this movie is good. I must have been to the same showing as you bkcunningham1, and I too, had a tear in my eye as I left the building.

Sandtrap328 01-26-2015 07:25 PM

I have not seen this movie but have talked with people who have seen it.

Is it true the audience would cheer and applaud when the sniper killed his Muslim targets?

Wandatime 01-26-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1001689)
I have not seen this movie but have talked with people who have seen it.

Is it true the audience would cheer and applaud when the sniper killed his Muslim targets?

Not at the showing I attended. Very respectful and quiet, especially at the end.

Shimpy 01-27-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1001689)
I have not seen this movie but have talked with people who have seen it.
Is it true the audience would cheer and applaud when the sniper killed his Muslim targets?

You mean like the Muslims cheered when they watched the world trade center come down?..........I don't recall hearing cheering when I saw the movie but so what if they did? Are you against one of our snipers saving several American lives?

Wandatime 01-27-2015 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 1002178)
You mean like the Muslims cheered when they watched the world trade center come down?..........I don't recall hearing cheering when I saw the movie but so what if they did? Are you against one of our snipers saving several American lives?

I think he was just asking a question.

2BNTV 01-28-2015 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Wandatime (Post 1001691)
Not at the showing I attended. Very respectful and quiet, especially at the end.

:agree:

Walter123 01-28-2015 09:44 AM

I went snipe hunting once. Does that make me a sniper?:confused:


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