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Do you think the CHEATERS should get bounced out of the super bowl?

YES!!! And the coach should be suspended for at least half of next season!

I don't follow football, is that the name of one of the teams?:undecided:

We are starting a movement to change the New England Patriots name to the New England Cheaters has a nice ring to it

I'm in the dark here? Do teams supply there own balls? and if so Doesn't the Referees inspect them? If so something wrong here. The referee's should be supplying the balls and they should be tested before the game starts and at half time. Air pressure effect by air temps. or leak. If both teams played with the same balls then what's the beef? Just cause they got blown out don't mean they get the win by ball under inflated by 1 or 2 pounds. Now if New England supplies their own balls, why wasn't they checked before the game started and if so why does team get to play with their balls. And Last the referee's handle the balls after each plays. if they were under inflated enough don't you think they come feel that? And if not the refereeing not that good IMO. Loosing always leaves bad taste and we look for reasons why we got or clocks cleaned!

Each team provides 12 balls for their use. The balls are inspected and then turned over to the team. Both teams do not play with the same balls unless a ball is intercepted. It's pretty obvious that foul play was in process at the game. The Ravens , also , protested about deflated balls against the Patriots. An official is the one who ? the deflation of the balls. It's not a sore loser. Belichick has been known for these kinds of antics in the past. Who knows what else he had done. If our team had done this we would be ashamed and expect punishment.

Wow! The Officials checked the balls prior to game time and said nothing. By the way, if indeed the balls were underinflated shouldn't that have helped the pitiful performance of the Colts as well. What nonsense!

The answer is in post 6.

I do not like the Pats or their coach. That being said they could beaten the Colts with a wiffle ball.

"Each team provides 12 balls for their use. The balls are inspected and then turned over to the team. Both teams do not play with the same balls unless a ball is intercepted. It's pretty obvious that foul play was in process at the game. The Ravens , also , protested about deflated balls against the Patriots. An official is the one who ? the deflation of the balls. It's not a sore loser. Belichick has been known for these kinds of antics in the past. Who knows what else he had done. If our team had done this we would be ashamed and expect punishment. "



Well, That's poor refereeing by the NFL the TEAMS shouldn't have control of their balls. The NFL should be supplying the balls and the teams should have no contact with them other than warm up before the game, then after re-inspected and NONE while the game going on. Quarterbacks should be able to throw balls supplied not special balls they supplied IMO. Another reason why I lost interest in Pro Ball.

To say I loathe the Pats is probably putting it mildly. I've never forgiven them for the blizzard game against Miami where they plowed the field for their kicker. They are not, nor have they ever been, a class act in my book. One of my biggest disappointments was when Brady signed with them since I know him and his family. He could have chosen better. That he is willing to play with an under- inflated ball is a huge disappointment and I'm willing to bet his father is none to happy with him.

For those who don't quite get it, the balls were probably deflated a bit after they were checked. This makes it easier for a receiver to catch the ball. As to the NFL supplying the balls, it doesn't really work. Footballs are to be inflated to a certain criteria. Some QBs prefer an over-inflated ball, some a little less. To have the balls be exactly alike is akin to forcing baseball players to all use the same type and weight of bat or all bowlers to use a 19 lb. ball. Just doesn't work.

However, this, to me, is just another example of the Pats at their best. It is a shame that a win at any cost is the mentality of so many.

I like the Pats. And you are still correct.

Blah Blah. Blah. We have no idea what the truth is at this point. Get a grip. You sound like VPL. (Okay, I admit that is an over reach.) Red - I enjoy your posts.

It's not like this was a close game or that the Pats don't have the best quarterback in history. According to news reports, no decision will be announced until after the Super Bowl, and possibly some changes on ball control will be made at that time. Until then, don't let these charges deflate the interest in the big game.

Maybe it wasn't a close game but the momentum of the game has a lot to do with how it is played. Who's to say if the balls were not Deflated that the Pats would have played any better than the Colts.

But, don't baseball players all use the same ball? And basketball players? And soccer players?
So...why not football?

I just heard a report on ESPN2 at halftime of the Wake Forest/North Carolina game that said that the refs noted the inflation problem at half time and had the Patriots supply 12 backup balls that apparently were properly inflated. I believe the Patriots did most of the damage in the second half. So maybe not as bad as it appears. :shrug:

We are BOSTON STRONG!

Maybe they should just take away all of the points the Patriots scored in the first half then.

Of course they should also nullify the D'Qwell Jackson interception since that was also made with an under inflated ball.

Just toss out the entire first half.

Not nonsense. Each team plays offense with their own 12 balls, unless there's an interception as was mentioned above.

The problem is that the balls are turned back to each team after being inspected. They showed on the evening news how easy it is to deflate a ball by a couple of pounds of pressure in a matter of a couple of seconds.

This too will get swept under the table by Goodell, is my guess. No way are they going to kick the Patriots out of the super bowl. The almighty dollar is the NFL's bottom line. Look how much time it took Goodell to destroy the evidence of the Patriots' videotaping when Congress was threatening to investigate.

With all their billions of dollars, the NFL can't appoint a ball tender to keep all the balls in his possession and dole them out as needed? Ridiculous.

Hey...Doc...my cousin Vito had some skin on that game. Watch what you suggest.

CFrance.. The Pats did have a ball tender. Have I ever told you about my cousin Vito? Go Pats.

It's the integrity of the game that we are talking about. I so agree with you.

Unless that actually did happen to your team

I think we are all getting a bit too serious until the results are in. This is like anticipating the State of the Union speech. Oops, sorry that was last night.

Yes, it is ridiculous seeing as how this is fairly common practice among all NFL teams. Almost all of the quarterbacks have the balls set up how they like them. It's one of the unwritten rules. This time someone complained so the NFL has to do an investigation.

But you are right about one thing. With all of the billions of dollars the NFL makes, they should supply the balls for all the games. They should have a ball staff that inflates the balls and has people on the field to change them out when necessary.

Tha Patriots were 6.5 point favorites. Taking away all of their first half points wouldn't have changed the bets except for the over under.

A report out Wednesday says the Baltimore Ravens tipped off the Indianapolis Colts before the AFC Championship game about the New England Patriots' use of deflated footballs.

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports says that the Colts knew about the deflated footballs coming into the game thanks to a tip from the Ravens, who fell to New England the week before in the divisional playoff round. As a result, the NFL was planning before the game to inspect the balls at halftime.

"The Indianapolis Colts, they were tipped off to before the game ever happened... I was told it was people... from the Baltimore Ravens," Glazer said.

Watch Glazer's comments below:


On Wednesday's edition of Pro Football Talk on NBCSN, Ravens defensive lineman Chris Canty made it clear that he felt the act of deflating footballs was cheating.

“The Patriots are habitual line-steppers,” Canty said, via ProFootballTalk.com. “If the allegations are true, then you are talking about attacking the integrity of our game and I have an issue with that. . . . [W]hat I’m going to say about the deflating of the balls, to me there is no difference than performance-enhancing drugs. You are cheating at that point. You are getting a competitive advantage outside of the rule book and there has to be some sort of consequences for that.

“To me, the integrity of the game is the most important thing. You want to be successful as a player but you want to think that you are doing things that are within the rules and that you are out there competing and it’s not, whether it is performance-enhancing drugs or deflated footballs that is out there aiding in your performance.”

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The ball tender should not be from either team. Should be a paid NFL official. Problem solved. That one, anyway...

Excellent solution from a thoughtful mind.

I'll third that

IMO that's why the balls need to be controlled by the NFL. All teams should be playing with the same ball. Beings I'm advanced tennis player would be like me using my own balls when I am serving cause I like the way the compress on the strings or the pop I get off the ground strokes and volleys. Again another 99 reasons I lost interest in Pro football.

The Patriots don't know about Ballagra? At my age, I've been playing with deflated balls for years. That's why I got Ballagra. Pats should be notified of the side effects and not use Ballagra if they have any kind of heart condition.

And if they experience an inflated ball for four hours they should seek medical help.

Or call the newspapers.

The balls were inspected two hours before the game but were returned to the teams 1 hour before. The thing that confuses me is don;t both teams use the same balls?

No, each team has 12 balls and uses their own balls on offense.

I am from Indianapolis. There is no way that the deflated balls had any influence on the outcome of the game.

Are we led to believe that since the deflated balls situation did occur and had no influence on a lopsided game that it should just be ignored? Then how about the week before when the Patriots defeated Baltimore by 4 points. Ask a Baltimore fan what they think.

The poor Patriots they cheat only twice in the 14 years that William Stephen Belichick is head coach and get caught both times. They just aren't very lucky.

I had two conversations with very strong Patriots fans yesterday and I asked both of them who was the head coach of the Patriots before Belichick. Neither could tell me. One even said that he must not be much of a coach if he couldn't remember him.

The previous Patriots head coach was Pete Carroll the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. We all know Pete never cheated at Southern Cal.

That slogan is not meant to defend CHEATERS!