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Chatbrat 01-23-2015 08:54 AM

Driver license for golf cart ?
 
Just read of an online news paper that a villages resident was being held on 10k bond for operating a golf cart with a permanently revoked driver license.

Now it starts--a 14 year doesn't need a license, duh

Just met a person who is operating a golf cart because his license was revoked for medical reasons--guess he's in deep poop if he gets caught.

DonH57 01-23-2015 09:10 AM

I read the same article this morning. What was he really charged for? How do you get charged for operating a machine that doesn't require a drivers license?

spring_chicken 01-23-2015 09:15 AM

Could it have been a street legal?

graciegirl 01-23-2015 09:25 AM

I read that too....PERMANENTLY REVOKED must be far different than driving without a license.

He looked a little ummm "frazzled"?????

DonH57 01-23-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 999771)
Could it have been a street legal?

That had to be it. I forgot about the registered carts. I think you're right. And as someone else stated, he did look a little under the weather.:agree:

TheVillageChicken 01-23-2015 09:56 AM

Although no license is required for golf carts, anyone with a suspended license is prohibited from operating any motor vehicle on public roads. Golf carts fall under the definition of "motor vehicle".

ROCKETMAN 01-23-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 999795)
Although no license is required for golf carts, anyone with a suspended license is prohibited from operating any motor vehicle on public roads. Golf carts fall under the definition of "motor vehicle".

I think that explanation is correct, not that he was driving a street legal.

rustyp 01-23-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 999795)
Although no license is required for golf carts, anyone with a suspended license is prohibited from operating any motor vehicle on public roads. Golf carts fall under the definition of "motor vehicle".

I think you are close to the right answer. Although not 100% sure I seem to recall if you are going more than 20 mph in a golf cart (not street legal) you can be sited for an unregistered motor vehicle. Thus if driving over 20mph puts you on a motor vehicle in the eyes of the law and you don't have a drivers license BINGO!

Sandtrap328 01-23-2015 12:45 PM

I just read the online paper article and it was very incomplete and lacking in much detail.

The policeman had to have a valid reason for pulling the cart over (speeding, driving erratically, etc) and it had to be on the public roadway in order to ask to see a license. The multi-modal trails are on private property and only cross public roadways for a tiny distance at Village entrances.

I guess if a person had a license permanently revoked it had to be for something really bad or very repetitive. However, how does a judge think that taking a driver license away will actually stop a person from driving?

Once again, a very poorly written article and very incomplete article.

Chatbrat 01-23-2015 01:08 PM

If you have a stroke, the medical people must contact the DMV and your license is permanently revoked, you can appeal the revocation every 5 years

They don't notify you of the revocation, its done via the DMV or licensing agency electronically

blueeagle65 01-23-2015 01:44 PM

IMO a valid drivers license should be required for ANYONE operating a golf cart NOT on a golf course. Some stupid dickweed almost took us out this morning when my wife and I were on our way to play golf. He came speeding around a curve in the very middle of the UN-STRIPED cart path and had I not been alert enough to stomp on our brakes we would have collided. :cus: Maybe I should just get some of those Ben Hur hubcaps like the car in Grease had.

Chatbrat 01-23-2015 01:53 PM

At least all golf carts should have some kind of Village ID on them. There were a few hit & runs a couple of months ago-how many blue golf carts are there in TV

spk7951 01-23-2015 01:57 PM

Chapter 316.2126 of the Florida Statutes says:
“Golf cart” means a motor vehicle as defined in s. 320.01(22)


And section 322.34 says:
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), any person whose driver license or driving privilege has been canceled, suspended, or revoked, except a “habitual traffic offender” as defined in s. 322.264, who drives a vehicle upon the highways of this state while such license or privilege is canceled, suspended, or revoked is guilty of a moving violation, punishable as provided in chapter 318.

rubicon 01-23-2015 02:05 PM

so it seems that some posters want more policing and more regulations pertaining to the operation of a golf cart. Now let me see a person is required to take a driver's test and eye test etc to get a license and every 4-6 years they have to re-apply. If during the interim they are arrested for violations they get points on their license and can have some removed if they take a course and pass a test. there are traffic signals all across America, speed limits and cameras watching our every move. police patrol highways 24/7 yet accidents seem to continue

As pertains to The Villages like ever where else the rules of the Road apply but some people simply DON'T LIKE RULES and that both on a cartpath and on the Florida Turnpike accounts for some of the problem

The village chicken is spot on if our license is revoked whether you are 14 or 104 it applies to all vehicles listed as motor vehicles. In other words while a license is not required to operate a golf cart violations revoking one's license apply to golfcarts because they are defined as motor vehicles under the law

SouthOfTheBorder 01-23-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blueeagle65 (Post 999964)
IMO a valid drivers license should be required for ANYONE operating a golf cart NOT on a golf course. Some stupid dickweed almost took us out this morning when my wife and I were on our way to play golf. He came speeding around a curve in the very middle of the UN-STRIPED cart path and had I not been alert enough to stomp on our brakes we would have collided. :cus: Maybe I should just get some of those Ben Hur hubcaps like the car in Grease had.

I understand your frustration but I don't understand how requiring a valid drivers license would have prevented your experience this morning.

Do we really need more regulations in our lives? :icon_wink:

Don

Polar Bear 01-23-2015 02:44 PM

Driver license for golf cart ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 999909)
...The multi-modal trails are on private property and only cross public roadways for a tiny distance at Village entrances...

I'm no expert, but transportation facilities in TV are a function of the CDD's. I would think that would make them public.

DougB 01-23-2015 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueeagle65 (Post 999964)
IMO a valid drivers license should be required for ANYONE operating a golf cart NOT on a golf course. Some stupid dickweed almost took us out this morning when my wife and I were on our way to play golf. He came speeding around a curve in the very middle of the UN-STRIPED cart path and had I not been alert enough to stomp on our brakes we would have collided. :cus: Maybe I should just get some of those Ben Hur hubcaps like the car in Grease had.

How do you know the stupid dickweed doesn't have a license?

DonH57 01-23-2015 04:04 PM

I've almost been hit by the same dickweed on cart path corners. I bet he was running late for his tee time again.

theorem painter 01-23-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 999909)

I guess if a person had a license permanently revoked it had to be for something really bad or very repetitive. However, how does a judge think that taking a driver license away will actually stop a person from driving?

In Florida I believe that a license is permanently revoked after 4 DUIs or a DUI involving a fatality. I don't think that any Judge thinks that suspending or revoking a license is going to prevent a person from driving. He is following the vehicle and traffic laws set by the state legislature.

Bizdoc 01-23-2015 06:16 PM

Or, he may have been driving faster than 19.9 miles per hour... Thus operating an "unlicensed motor vehicle"

gomsiepop 01-23-2015 06:27 PM

Before someone posts "information" on Talk of the Villages they should do a little research. The person that was arrested was driving under the influence. Anyone over the age of 14 can drive a golf cart. Both my sister and her husband never had a driver's license and that was one of the reasons they relocated to The Villages. They each have a golf cart and are able to drive anywhere throughout The Villages as long as it is golf cart accessible. The article (if anyone is interested) is in the following:
http://www.*************.com/village...ign-golf-cart/

Average Guy 01-23-2015 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomsiepop (Post 1000106)
Before someone posts "information" on Talk of the Villages they should do a little research. The person that was arrested was driving under the influence. Anyone over the age of 14 can drive a golf cart. Both my sister and her husband never had a driver's license and that was one of the reasons they relocated to The Villages. They each have a golf cart and are able to drive anywhere throughout The Villages as long as it is golf cart accessible. The article (if anyone is interested) is in the following:
http://www.*************.com/village...ign-golf-cart/

The story that you referenced is from last June. This thread is discussing an arrest that just recently happened.

Sandtrap328 01-23-2015 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 999998)
I'm no expert, but transportation facilities in TV are a function of the CDD's. I would think that would make them public.

Nope, the multi-modal trails are all considered private property. Police have authority on them only for suspected drunk driving or reckless driving. That was asked and answered in some previous information given out by Janet Tutt.

There are stop signs where the multi-modal trail crosses public roadway at Village entryways. The police can ticket you for not stopping completely since you have gone onto public roadways at that point.

Polar Bear 01-23-2015 07:59 PM

Driver license for golf cart ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1000156)
Nope, the multi-modal trails are all considered private property...

EDITED: After reading Janet Tutt's July 6, 2010 memo.

It's clear from the referenced memo that the trails are owned by the CCD's. The memo also clearly states and makes appropriate references that the CCD's have no enforcement authority over the trails. However, enforcement and ownership are two separate things. Even without enforcement authority, ownership by the CCD's would make the trails public. CCD's are not identical to cities or counties off course, but they are local government entities.

Fully acknowledging my lack of expertise regarding CCD's, feel free to point out the flaws in my thinking. :)

mulligan 01-24-2015 05:23 AM

The executive golf courses are also owned by the vccdd, but they are considered to be private property.

OldManTime 01-24-2015 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 999762)
Just read of an online news paper that a villages resident was being held on 10k bond for operating a golf cart with a permanently revoked driver license.

Now it starts--a 14 year doesn't need a license, duh

Just met a person who is operating a golf cart because his license was revoked for medical reasons--guess he's in deep poop if he gets caught.


Fla statute states 14 year olds can drive golf carts, but if anyone drives a golf cart and caught on a public road, they need a valid drivers license, or be arrested.


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