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dp000 01-31-2015 08:14 AM

Extra bar charges at country clubs
 
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

fred53 01-31-2015 08:27 AM

No, but I do agree that those extras are a bogus way to enhance their bottom line....sleazy is the word that comes to mind...cheap also fits...I'd drink else where...odd I'm not charged for "rocks" when I order water....

Cedwards38 01-31-2015 08:47 AM

Bring me an ice water, and hold the water. I'll also have two shots of scotch please!

Doro22 01-31-2015 09:05 AM

Ah oh...I can see it coming now. The die hard defenders of that country club conglomerate are going to jump on here and defend sleazy practices to the hilt. I am from Ft. Lauderdale & have travelled & eaten out in numerous restaurants over the past few yrs, including Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Key West, throughout the Fl Keys, San Francisco, Monterey, Pebble Beach, Boston & various places along the lovely New England coastline. I must say I have never ever seen a charge for ice cubes. Just whom do they think they are fooling with here...people who just jumped off a banana boat? Unbelievable!

virgind 01-31-2015 09:33 AM

We go off campus more and more when we go out. They talk about disposable income just dont like disposing of it all at once.

blueeagle65 01-31-2015 09:36 AM

Unacceptable. Me thinks a boycott is in order.

tuccillo 01-31-2015 09:38 AM

I always ask what the drink specials are. If I am ordering something else I try to ask how much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dp000 (Post 1004048)
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??


Sandtrap328 01-31-2015 09:40 AM

I have never heard of charging extra for Rose's Lime Juice in a gimlet since that is part of a gimlet.

As for charging extra money ($2) for ice, I find that very hard to believe. I have been told of being charged more for straight liquor without ice because you get more liquor.

For the scoop direct from the source, why doesn't someone just put in a phone call to the manager at Belle Glade and ask him directly AND post his answer?

Me? I very rarely go that far South. I stick mainly with Lopez, Glenview, and Hacienda Hills. All very nice clubs.

Walter123 01-31-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1004101)
I have never heard of charging extra for Rose's Lime Juice in a gimlet since that is part of a gimlet.

As for charging extra money ($2) for ice, I find that very hard to believe. I have been told of being charged more for straight liquor without ice because you get more liquor.

For the scoop direct from the source, why doesn't someone just put in a phone call to the manager at Belle Glade and ask him directly AND post his answer?

Me? I very rarely go that far South. I stick mainly with Lopez, Glenview, and Hacienda Hills. All very nice clubs.

I agree. I think there's some fibbing going on here to cause a stir.

Oh, Mr Bond, you want it shaken not stirred? That will be $2 extra. LOL

Bonny 01-31-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1004101)
I have never heard of charging extra for Rose's Lime Juice in a gimlet since that is part of a gimlet.

As for charging extra money ($2) for ice, I find that very hard to believe. I have been told of being charged more for straight liquor without ice because you get more liquor.

For the scoop direct from the source, why doesn't someone just put in a phone call to the manager at Belle Glade and ask him directly AND post his answer?

Me? I very rarely go that far South. I stick mainly with Lopez, Glenview, and Hacienda Hills. All very nice clubs.

You are correct. You get charged more for ordering a drink on the rocks. However, that is not to pay for the rocks (ice). That is because you get more alcohol when you order straight liquor. Many places do this.

tommy steam 01-31-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dp000 (Post 1004048)
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

How much was that drink?

alwann 01-31-2015 10:46 AM

Charge for drinks
 
It's not just the country clubs. I had a Martini at Riccardi's in Brownwood and an additional charge was posted. It was up, not on the rock. So I suppose the olives were extra. If this keeps up, the unofficial Villages Cocktail (water with lemon) will carry a charge for the lemon.

TVMayor 01-31-2015 10:54 AM

I think the $2.00 rock charge is for DUI insurance.

If you are drunk enough to pay $2.00 for ice you should be cut off.

Don’t believe me, ask your financial adviser.:beer3:

jimbo2012 01-31-2015 11:04 AM

if you order beer does it cost more with a glass :beer3:

NYGUY 01-31-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dp000 (Post 1004048)
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

If this is true, I just might have to quit drinking or the alternative and shoot myself....:beer3:....nah, that ain't going to happen either!!

Bonny 01-31-2015 11:09 AM

No matter which way you order, either straight up or on the rocks there is an extra charge because you get more alcohol. There is not enough alcohol in a standard drink to do it straight up.
This is pretty common practice.

dp000 01-31-2015 11:12 AM

tommy steam...the gimlet cost $3.75 plus the $1.00 for the Rose's Lime Juice=$4.75

karostay 01-31-2015 11:18 AM

I heard from a good friend of a friend nephews uncles grandmother they also charge .25 for a straw :evil6:

jimmemac 01-31-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1004146)
No matter which way you order, either straight up or on the rocks there is an extra charge because you get more alcohol. There is not enough alcohol in a standard drink to do it straight up.
This is pretty common practice.

more alcohol than what??

Bonny 01-31-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 1004154)
more alcohol than what??

They give you more alcohol in a drink straight up than the amount you would normally get in a drink that has a mix in it.
If you get scotch and soda, you usually get 1 shot of alcohol and then the soda.
If you just want scotch straight up, no soda, that 1 shot of alcohol would look pretty dismal in a glass all by itself so they give you more alcohol. LOL

Bonanza 01-31-2015 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dp000 (Post 1004048)
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

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Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 1004063)
Bring me an ice water, and hold the water. I'll also have two shots of scotch please!

Yes, besides being annoying, the comments made me laugh.
It reminds me of Jack Nicholson in Five Easy Pieces about his sandwich in the diner routine.

Aside from that, I would refuse to pay for the lime juice and ice.
What are they going to do . . . throw you in jail?
If enough customers refuse to pay for those things, they'll get the message!

Yung Dum 01-31-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NYGUY (Post 1004145)
If this is true, I just might have to quit drinking or the alternative and shoot myself....:beer3:....nah, that ain't going to happen either!!

Extra charge for bullets?

2BNTV 01-31-2015 11:48 AM

Only alternative is to drink at home, as it is much cheaper.

With all of the money spent in moving here, I would not be concerned over minor charges. If I was, I wouldn't go there to aggravate myself.

But that's me. :D

alwann 01-31-2015 11:57 AM

More alcohol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1004159)
They give you more alcohol in a drink straight up than the amount you would normally get in a drink that has a mix in it.
If you get scotch and soda, you usually get 1 shot of alcohol and then the soda.
If you just want scotch straight up, no soda, that 1 shot of alcohol would look pretty dismal in a glass all by itself so they give you more alcohol. LOL

You couldn't tell that from my drink. In fact, I wondered if the gin had been cut with water.

rubicon 01-31-2015 12:18 PM

My best friend owed three restaurants once and told me he didn't make money with food served but over the bar.

My wife and I have never been fond of hard liquor. We also are particular on what we waste our calories on. So when we do go out for dinner and that is the stated purpose as opposed to going out for drinks. we order water with lemon. now if restaurants start charging for lemons or ice then we will order only water and if they charge for water then ........

l2ridehd 01-31-2015 12:29 PM

If this is a "standard" practice, than it's news to me. I have never heard of any bar charging for things like ice and items taht are part of the drink. It's always built into the price of the drink. And if any bar in The Villages does that, it will be the last time I go there.

It seems a very common practice to find ways to stick it to you in the winter and than beg for your business in the summer. They need to learn that at least I don't forget that fast. I will patronize those place that treat customers like customers all year around.

sunnyatlast 01-31-2015 12:35 PM

They do it "because they CAN".

These country club bar-restaurants run by the same restaurant group are an exercise in redundancy and monopoly. (Bonifay, Belle Glade, Evans Prairie, and now Orange Blossom)

See one, you've seen 'em all. It's boring!!!

keithwand 01-31-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1004144)
if you order beer does it cost more with a glass :beer3:

Not yet but wait.

Fourthrock 01-31-2015 12:55 PM

My wife and I are considering moving to TV and this kind of practice may keep us away. We have traveled the US working for the Department of Defense and HAVE NEVER seen this kind of Greedy Practice.

kcrazorbackfan 01-31-2015 12:59 PM

Hmm. So the problem is minor charges added to a bill for alcohol; the cheapest and most simple solution would be to quit drinking. Bang, problem solved. You'll feel better in the morning and the wallet won't be as light.

sunnyatlast 01-31-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fourthrock (Post 1004191)
My wife and I are considering moving to TV and this kind of practice may keep us away. We have traveled the US working for the Department of Defense and HAVE NEVER seen this kind of Greedy Practice.

"Greedy Practice" beginning with capital letters?

Occupy Wall Street chapters are out there, looking for members having money without having to be present at a job every day. Members with trust funds would be even more welcome!

NECHFalcon68 01-31-2015 01:37 PM

It happened at our table at Evans Prairie about 2 months ago. Our friend asked for vodka straight up and his wife got it on the rocks. They charged $2.50 for the straight up and $4.50 for the drink with ice.
The waitress said it was because a "drink on the rocks is a bigger pour"....
What-ever....

TVMayor 01-31-2015 01:40 PM

2 ice cubes = $2.00 = 1 Gallon of gas = 31 miles

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...15JrNaTgJH9YjQ

tommy steam 01-31-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1004144)
if you order beer does it cost more with a glass :beer3:

That might be in the works next! :pepper2:

njbchbum 01-31-2015 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1004159)
They give you more alcohol in a drink straight up than the amount you would normally get in a drink that has a mix in it.
If you get scotch and soda, you usually get 1 shot of alcohol and then the soda.
If you just want scotch straight up, no soda, that 1 shot of alcohol would look pretty dismal in a glass all by itself so they give you more alcohol. LOL

Why aren't "they" providing an appropriate size glass for the one shot?
What if the patron only desires one shot straight up? Must they drink more and pay more or just pay ore and leave what they don't want in the glass to waste? Would the bartender or establishment honor a request for just one shot in any glass and just charge for the one shot?

tommy steam 01-31-2015 02:03 PM

I can only go from what I have seen in my brothers bars. He build and owned many bars in his lifetime. I never heard him charge for ice or more for a shot on the rocks, or a splash of anything in your drink. His idea was to keep his customers happy so they would come back. He was very successful in the bars that he owned. He owned two or three at a time.Maybe it's done here because they can and the majority doesent care.

tomwed 01-31-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NECHFalcon68 (Post 1004211)
It happened at our table at Evans Prairie about 2 months ago. Our friend asked for vodka straight up and his wife got it on the rocks. They charged $2.50 for the straight up and $4.50 for the drink with ice.
The waitress said it was because a "drink on the rocks is a bigger pour"....
What-ever....

It's a bigger pour. The extra money is for the extra alcohol.

This seems to explain how it is done elsewhere:
For most places a shot/mixed drink is 1.5 oz liquor, a rocks drink should be 2 ounces and a martini/manhattan should have 3 ounces.

Chances are their computer POS systems (register) have the whiskey prices under the price of a shot and have no separate button for it as neat so it would be added on, example:

Jameson $10 Jameson and Ginger/ Coke/Soda $10
Jameson neat/on the rocks $10 + $2 = $12 It wouldn’t make sense for them to charge you the same price for a shot of whiskey and a whiskey on the rocks because you’d be getting 1/2 oz more when you order on the rocks, you pay more for more pour.

So if anything 1.5 oz = $10, technically 2 oz drink should be $13.33 since an 0.5 oz is appx $3.33

See more at: $2 Upcharge for Ordering Your Scotch Neat? - Scotch AddictScotch Addict

KeepingItReal 01-31-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1004197)
Hmm. So the problem is minor charges added to a bill for alcohol; the cheapest and most simple solution would be to quit drinking. Bang, problem solved. You'll feel better in the morning and the wallet won't be as light.

First time it happens, shame on them, second time it happens, shame on you, but then it's a lot more fun to complain....

Happinow 01-31-2015 02:45 PM

Big rip
 
I'm don't drink hardly at all but to me it sounds like the drink situation is ala carte drink ordering. So if you want a martini, the Varmouth is one price, then if you want ice that's another charge and then yet another charge for the olives? Never heard of such a thing. When you order a drink it should be one price because it wouldn't be a martini withou the olives or the Vermouth would it? It seems we are getting ripped off in a big way. Maybe we should start bringing our own garnishes, and put the ice from the ice water in our cocktail. Two can play this game.

ahayward65 01-31-2015 02:58 PM

??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1004146)
No matter which way you order, either straight up or on the rocks there is an extra charge because you get more alcohol. There is not enough alcohol in a standard drink to do it straight up.
This is pretty common practice.

If I am understanding this correctly then.....say a martini is $4.00, I order it on the rocks and there is a $1.00 extra charge but if I order it straight up then there is a $1.00 extra charge also. How convenient!!!


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