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Guest 02-12-2015 09:01 PM

Bowe Bergdahl
 
Has anyone seen anything on Bowe Bergdahl ?? Why is this taking so long. His parents stood side by side with the President...not sure that is why but what is happening...this is the last I have heard...

"The U.S. Army says no decision has been made as to whether to charge Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl with desertion, despite some media reports claiming those charges are "imminent."

According to a story from The Army Times, representatives from the Pentagon said that "there have been no actions or decisions" coming from its investigation into the circumstances surrounding the capture of Bergdahl by Taliban forces.

"Sgt. Bergdahl has not been charged with any crime," said Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby during a press briefing Tuesday afternoon.

"No decision has been made with respect to the case of Sgt. Bergdahl," Kirby said. "None. There is no timeline to make that decision, and Gen. [Mark] Milley is being put under no pressure to make a decision."

Bergdahl disappeared from Combat Outpost Mest-Lalak in Paktika province, Afghanistan, on June 30, 2009. Five years later, he was swapped for five Taliban members housed at the Guantánamo Bay detention center in Cuba.

"The investigation is still with the Commanding General of US Army Forces Command who will determine appropriate action - which ranges from no further action to convening a court martial," said Major General Ronald F Lewis.

Other media outlets, citing anonymous sources, say Bergdahl will face desertion charges.

According to an NBC News story, Bergdahl will face a lesser charge of desertion -- leaving a post to avoid duty or shirk an important assignment.

That charge carries a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison.


Pentagon denies it has decided to charge Bowe Bergdahl with desertion | AL.com

We gave up a lot of "heavy hitters" to get this man back to join his parents. Do not understand the delay in any announcements as reports are that the investigation is over.

Guest 02-12-2015 09:41 PM

Pretty simple really.

Obummer trades the radical Islamic dream team for a deserter. Deserter gets prison. Obummer looks like an even bigger idiot for trading a deserter for terrorists.

Or…

No prison, therefore no looking like a big idiot (in his small mind.) Just a political way of kicking another inconvenient can down the road (till our avid golf player is out of office.)

Guest 02-12-2015 09:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011544)
Pretty simple really.

Obummer trades the radical Islamic dream team for a deserter. Deserter gets prison. Obummer looks like an even bigger idiot for trading a deserter for terrorists.

Or…

No prison, therefore no looking like a big idiot (in his small mind.) Just a political way of kicking another inconvenient can down the road (till our avid golf player is out of office.)

Obummer, I see what you did there! That is really clever, do you do any other word tricks like that? You must be really smart.

Guest 02-12-2015 10:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011550)
Obummer, I see what you did there! That is really clever, do you do any other word tricks like that? You must be really smart.

:a20:

I chuckle to myself when I see a bumper sticker that says, "Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot!" (that one ALWAYS cheers me up!) :jester:

Guest 02-12-2015 10:15 PM

Kind of figured nothing would happen to him. Not sure why but since he wasn't charged with at least being AWOL when he hit American soil, was pretty sure he never would be charged. Something tells me that there are a lot of facts we don't know and probably will never know, at least not without a trial or a book sometime in the far future?

Some good men died trying to get him back. Not even sure why that was done. Why would we risk our soldiers to save a deserter? To my mind, one plus one is not adding up to two.

Guest 02-13-2015 12:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011529)
Has anyone seen anything on Bowe Bergdahl ?? Why is this taking so long. His parents stood side by side with the President...not sure that is why but what is happening...this is the last I have heard...

"The U.S. Army says no decision has been made as to whether to charge Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl with desertion, despite some media reports claiming those charges are "imminent."

According to a story from The Army Times, representatives from the Pentagon said that "there have been no actions or decisions" coming from its investigation into the circumstances surrounding the capture of Bergdahl by Taliban forces.

"Sgt. Bergdahl has not been charged with any crime," said Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby during a press briefing Tuesday afternoon.

"No decision has been made with respect to the case of Sgt. Bergdahl," Kirby said. "None. There is no timeline to make that decision, and Gen. [Mark] Milley is being put under no pressure to make a decision."

Bergdahl disappeared from Combat Outpost Mest-Lalak in Paktika province, Afghanistan, on June 30, 2009. Five years later, he was swapped for five Taliban members housed at the Guantánamo Bay detention center in Cuba.

"The investigation is still with the Commanding General of US Army Forces Command who will determine appropriate action - which ranges from no further action to convening a court martial," said Major General Ronald F Lewis.

Other media outlets, citing anonymous sources, say Bergdahl will face desertion charges.

According to an NBC News story, Bergdahl will face a lesser charge of desertion -- leaving a post to avoid duty or shirk an important assignment.

That charge carries a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison.


Pentagon denies it has decided to charge Bowe Bergdahl with desertion | AL.com

We gave up a lot of "heavy hitters" to get this man back to join his parents. Do not understand the delay in any announcements as reports are that the investigation is over.

I am not so sure it was done to get him back to his parents.
The delay of course is to figure out how to deal with a deserter and not have Obama with egg on his face. Yet if he is not treated as a deserter and he is one then how do all that run the armed forces look?
And then there are the men un his unit who in fact know he deserted.

The only winners were the terrorists. The deal that was made certainly qualifies for NOT negotiating with terrorists. Amateur time at the table.
Terrorists and rest of the world still laughing and shaking their heads.

Guest 02-13-2015 07:58 AM

If Burgdahl had not been a converted Muslim then he would still be held by the enemy. But WH Muslim saw it fit to come to the aid of one of his Muslim brothers thus we now know the rest of the story. Don't count on him being tried for anything. He has "brotherly" protection. What a joke!!!!

Guest 02-13-2015 09:15 AM

Agree - it's being buried to protect the community organizer from another one of his screw ups.

Guest 02-13-2015 09:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011689)
Agree - it's being buried to protect the community organizer from another one of his screw ups.

How can the media ignore something like this. If true, and I have no way of knowing the story, the government is allowing someone who by all accounts I have read is a deserter, and who was brought home by giving up some really really bad guys, after we said we would not do it ???

Why is this not a major story ?

Guest 02-13-2015 09:50 AM

Some of the most recent stories on this...

A opinion piece...

"I can’t stop thinking about Bowe Bergdahl. Not since CNN’s recent report that one of the “Taliban Five” freed from Guantanamo Bay in exchange for the undeserving Army sergeant may very well have re-engaged in “terrorist or insurgent activities.”

It brings to mind the White House Rose Garden celebration President Obama hosted in May for Bob and Jani Bergdahl, Bowe’s parents.

Said Obama: “Bob and Jani, today families across America share in the joy that I know you feel. As a parent, I can’t imagine the hardship that you guys have gone through. As president, I know I speak for all Americans when I say we cannot wait for the moment when you are reunited and your son, Bowe, is back in your arms.”

As to those who would question the wisdom of releasing five “high-value” Taliban detainees from Gitmo (and flying them off to Qatar, where they are free to roam the country), Obama stated: “The Qatar government has given us assurances that it will put in place measures to protect our national security.”


Obama has put Bergdahl in the rear-view mirror - The Orange County Register

"According to an Army official, the highly controversial Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl will be charged with desertion from the U.S. Army.

Bergdahl reportedly disappeared from his post in Afghanistan nearly six years ago. His platoon-mates say that Bergdahl willingly deserted the post. The Pentagon recently stated that its investigation into the matter will wrap up soon, with the likelihood of charges against Bergdahl almost assured.

Sgt. 1st Class Nathan Botts, a 22-year veteran in the Army, was in the same battalion as Bergdahl, and he believes that “it is clear” that Bergdahl deserted his post. Botts said that he is hopeful that Bergdahl will be charged as a traitor.

According to Botts, tensions in Afghanistan were high every day, but never as high as the day that Bergdahl disappeared from his post. Botts said that because he was a high-ranking senior NCO, that he was in a unique position to pass along information from Bergdahl’s unit to the Battalion Commanders.

“I was getting information directly from the platoon, and also from the company, of what was going on. And I was briefing the brigade S-3 and also the brigade commander himself.”
Botts said that “everything stopped that day,” and that their number one mission moving forward was locating Bergdahl.

He said that the Army had never stopped looking for Bergdahl, and that the impact of Bergdahl’s actions didn’t become truly evident until people in Botts’ own battalion started getting killed.


Some Of Bowe Bergdahl’s Fellow Soldiers Believe That His Actions Are Worthy Of The Death Penalty

Guest 02-13-2015 09:54 AM

THIS FROM FOLKS WHO SERVED.....


"On June 30, 2009, in Mest Malak, Afghanistan, Bowe Bergdahl left his unit and deserted the Army. We know he deserted because we were there when he did it.

We are confident that the overdue report from political and military leaders on Bergdahl's actions, sitting on a general's desk since October, comes to the same conclusion. It has to because the facts are clear.

Whatever the reason is for the late report and confused reporting about whether Bergdahl is set to be charged with desertion, justice is being denied to those of us who were abandoned by a fellow soldier.

The White House ceremony in May to announce the exchange of five senior Taliban detainees from the Guantanamo Bay prison for our former platoon member sparked a national debate on a variety of controversial issues: executive power, mental health care, the War on Terror, prisoners of war, due process and legal justice. It is troubling to us that President Obama and his political team are silencing this needed public debate by not making the release of this report a priority.

In light of the new information that some of the Taliban prisoners swapped for our former platoonmate made moves to re-enter the war, we believe that this debate must begin in earnest by issuing a report on the facts.

Like most people, we have opinions about how Bowe's release affects these issues. Unlike others, though, we were his team leaders, friends and brothers in arms. We have firsthand knowledge of the case and were interviewed as part of the investigation.


Eager for Bergdahl to tell story | Pacific Daily News | guampdn.com

Why in the heck is this not questioned by the media ???

Guest 02-13-2015 10:43 AM

The Bergdahl issue is a desertion.
It is moving slowly because Obama and his actions are in the middle of it.

Another issue that is not discussed is, if our policy is to not negotiate with terrorists then what is the exchange of 5 for 1 considered.

Perhaps this is a reason why Obama chooses not to title some organizations as the rest of the world. Hiding behing and abusing the letter of the law.

Crystal clear!!!!!

Guest 02-13-2015 11:25 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011544)
Pretty simple really.

Obummer trades the radical Islamic dream team for a deserter. Deserter gets prison. Obummer looks like an even bigger idiot for trading a deserter for terrorists.

Or…

No prison, therefore no looking like a big idiot (in his small mind.) Just a political way of kicking another inconvenient can down the road (till our avid golf player is out of office.)

Sadly true ... the only way a POTUS can be dumb enough to make such a horrible trade is ...wait, Obama is the smartest guy ever. Thus, the reason he makes the trade is it hurts the America he seems to be disdainful of.

Guest 02-13-2015 11:26 AM

This whole story disgusts me. I do not know how some citizens can unequivocally stand behind this president and continue to defend his every action. Are they blind to stories such as these? Something is terribly amiss here - why that is not evident to everyone is beyond my comprehension. Talk about blind followers!! I have fully supported the election of certain presidents in the past, but when they have not lived up to their word, I have not hesitated to express dissatisfaction. After all, no one is perfect, but it sure seems that some people think this President is.........very strange to me. Takes a mind set that I clearly don't get!

Guest 02-13-2015 11:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011709)
THIS FROM FOLKS WHO SERVED.....


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Why in the heck is this not questioned by the media ???

That's easy ... the media is protecting "their guy" ... you know, the guy that seems to hate the Country he was elected to defend ...oh, sorry, he was elected to "transform"

Heckuva job Barack

Guest 02-13-2015 11:29 AM

By the way, I think using this "guest" thing is pretty childish ... you guys at TOTV need to rethink it. If PM wars become a problem, then the offended party can simply choose to block offending posters.

Come on ... this is like elementary school or something

Guest 02-13-2015 11:36 AM

The Most damaging factors are
 
What I find as being the most damaging factors are first by suppressing this issue the rule of law may well be violated and according to our democracy no one is above the law not even Obama Secondly the liberal media is so blinded by the love for Obama that they violate their ethical obligation to report the truth. This is how totalitarian states are created

Guest 02-13-2015 11:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011764)
By the way, I think using this "guest" thing is pretty childish ... you guys at TOTV need to rethink it. If PM wars become a problem, then the offended party can simply choose to block offending posters.

Come on ... this is like elementary school or something

And this has exactly what to do with Bowe Bergdahl?

Guest 02-13-2015 12:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011768)
What I find as being the most damaging factors are first by suppressing this issue the rule of law may well be violated and according to our democracy no one is above the law not even Obama Secondly the liberal media is so blinded by the love for Obama that they violate their ethical obligation to report the truth. This is how totalitarian states are created

I don't think the rule of law is an inhibitor of any kind anymore. We have allowed our lawmakers to dilute law enforcement as a selective application.
Example? ILLEGAL immigration in all it's ugliness. Selective to no enforcement.

So relative to Bergdahl...they will do whatever they want that suits their agenda....legal or not....and be allowed to get away with it....AGAIN!!!!!

Guest 02-13-2015 12:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011702)
How can the media ignore something like this. If true, and I have no way of knowing the story, the government is allowing someone who by all accounts I have read is a deserter, and who was brought home by giving up some really really bad guys, after we said we would not do it ???

Why is this not a major story ?

Bill O'Reilly (FOX news) does regular updates on this case and is trying to uncover the truth. Several retired military have come on saying he has been found guilty of desertion, but the military is being pressured to keep it quiet. Nothing would surprise me these days.

Guest 02-23-2015 07:41 PM

"PRESCOTT, Ariz. - The brother of an American woman who was killed after spending months as a hostage of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) says Kayla Mueller's situation worsened after the government traded five Taliban commanders for a captive U.S. soldier.

The militants increased their demands after the May swap for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, Eric Mueller told NBC's "Today" in an interview that aired Monday.

"That made the whole situation worse because that's when the demands got greater," he said. "They got larger. They realized that they had something."

Mueller's death was confirmed Feb. 10 by her family and U.S. officials. ISIS claimed she died in a Jordanian airstrike, but U.S. officials have not confirmed that. The Pentagon said it didn't know how she was killed."


Bowe Bergdahl swap killed deal for Kayla Mueller, brether says - CBS News

"The young woman's father, Carl Mueller, said that the United States' willingness to swap for Bergdahl but not pay ransom or allow ransom to be paid for his daughter "was pretty hard to take."

"I actually asked the president that question when we were in the White House," Carl Mueller said without elaborating."

Guest 02-24-2015 01:24 PM

From February 2.....


"A retired Navy officer and military analyst believes the military needs to decide one way or another whether it intends to file charges of desertion against a soldier who left his post in Afghanistan.

Army and Pentagon officials said last week no decision has been made on what criminal charges – if any – will be filed against Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the soldier who left his post in Afghanistan and was held by the Taliban for five years before being released in a prisoner exchange last year. The case has become politicized because some members of Congress, as well as former members of Bergdahl's unit, criticized the Obama administration for trading someone they considered a deserter for five top Taliban commanders held at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Commander Kirk Lippold (USN-Ret.), who commanded the USS Cole when it was attacked by terrorists in 2000, describes the message he thinks should be delivered to the senior military leadership within the army.


"I would be [telling them they] need to make a decision on whether to charge or not to charge this young man, because the reality also is Bergdahl deserves timely justice as well," he tells OneNewsNow. "So either charge him or make the announcement we're not going to charge him."

In Lippold's opinion, Bergdahl clearly should never have been swapped for the terrorists.

"The bottom line is the president of the United States violated U.S. law by releasing those five terrorists, several of whom clearly were tied to deaths of Americans in Afghanistan," he argues. "They should never have been released.

"So it's a matter of the president broke the law – and there has been absolutely no penalty for it because no one wants to take him on on this issue," Lippold concludes."


Advice to military: Just make a decision on Bergdahl

From February 4

"SPOKANE, Wash. – A decision is expected anytime on whether Bowe Bergdahl will face military charges.

Bergdahl reportedly left his post in Afghanistan nearly six years ago. The Pentagon said its investigation is in its final stages. Many fellow comrades said it is already clear Bergdahl is a deserter.

Sergeant First Class Nathan Botts spent 22 years in the US Army. He was in the same battalion as Bergdahl. He said it was clear from the get go that Bergdahl had deserted his post. He hopes that the military will punish Bergdahl as a traitor."

"otts feels his actions are worthy of the military's highest punishment, the death sentence. He said he is not the only one who feels Bergdahl never should have been traded in the prisoner exchange that released five Taliban fighters back onto the front lines.

"I'm sorry. A deserter is not worth that. He's not," said Botts."


Fellow soldier says Bergdahl should get death penalty

"I can’t stop thinking about Bowe Bergdahl. Not since CNN’s recent report that one of the “Taliban Five” freed from Guantanamo Bay in exchange for the undeserving Army sergeant may very well have re-engaged in “terrorist or insurgent activities.”

It brings to mind the White House Rose Garden celebration President Obama hosted in May for Bob and Jani Bergdahl, Bowe’s parents.

Said Obama: “Bob and Jani, today families across America share in the joy that I know you feel. As a parent, I can’t imagine the hardship that you guys have gone through. As president, I know I speak for all Americans when I say we cannot wait for the moment when you are reunited and your son, Bowe, is back in your arms.”

As to those who would question the wisdom of releasing five “high-value” Taliban detainees from Gitmo (and flying them off to Qatar, where they are free to roam the country), Obama stated: “The Qatar government has given us assurances that it will put in place measures to protect our national security.”

"Well, we see how that has worked out.

Meanwhile, not long after very publicly feting Bob and Jani at the White House, Obama decided he should put some distance between himself and the Bergdahls.

That’s because of the growing suspicion that Bowe – the only U.S. solider to be held captive in Afghanistan – did not somehow fall into the hands of the enemy, but intentionally sought out the Taliban."


"Indeed, the nonpartisan General Accounting Office concluded in August that Obama broke the law when he freed the Taliban Five in exchange for Bergdahl by not notifying Congress at least 30 days beforehand.

And there is yet another reason Obama wouldn’t want Dahl’s report in the open if it’s damning to Bergdahl – because it would remind the American people that the suspected deserter’s freedom was purchased at the price of releasing from Gitmo five sworn enemies of the U.S."


Obama has put Bergdahl in the rear-view mirror - The Orange County Register

Guest 02-25-2015 06:50 PM

RIGHT....GOT IT !!!

"Army Secretary John McHugh said Wednesday that a decision on whether former prisoner of war Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl deserted his post in Afghanistan would be coming in the "near future."

"I would think that we could reasonably expect to see something in the relatively near future," McHugh told reporters at a briefing in Washington. "The range extends from on one end of the spectrum — from no further action to the other end of the spectrum, potential court-martial."

Although the Army's second fact-finding investigation of Bergdahl was concluded in December, McHugh said no decision has been reached on charges because of the number of documents that needed to be reviewed and the "complexity" of the case.

"It has been a lengthy investigation, and I think if you look at both the time involved from Sgt. Bergdahl's disappearance to his recovery to this point in time in large measure, that's understandable," he said.


Army secretary: Bergdahl decision coming soon | TheHill

Guest 02-25-2015 07:19 PM

This will go the way of Benghazi and the arms deals to Mexico...stall.....stall some more.....ignore it.....ignore it some more....people will stop asking....and then those who cared will give up and joinn the so what or I don't care masses.

And a deserter/traitor will get off scott free and make a ton of money in the process.

Definitely proves having friends in high places makes a difference....even the guilty or wrong doing.

Standard practice...ignore the law....no enforcement...look the other way!

Guest 02-26-2015 12:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011544)
Pretty simple really.

Obummer trades the radical Islamic dream team for a deserter. Deserter gets prison. Obummer looks like an even bigger idiot for trading a deserter for terrorists.

Or…

No prison, therefore no looking like a big idiot (in his small mind.) Just a political way of kicking another inconvenient can down the road (till our avid golf player is out of office.)

Excellent analysis ... spot on as we'd say in the UK

Guest 02-26-2015 12:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011702)
How can the media ignore something like this. If true, and I have no way of knowing the story, the government is allowing someone who by all accounts I have read is a deserter, and who was brought home by giving up some really really bad guys, after we said we would not do it ???

Why is this not a major story ?

Pretty simple answer unfortunately ... major media today (NYT, WaPo, NBC etc) are ideologically "wholly owned" subsidiaries of the Democrat Party. Once that is understood, the deafening silence is readily understood

Guest 02-26-2015 02:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1019808)
pretty simple answer unfortunately ... Major media today (nyt, wapo, nbc etc) are ideologically "wholly owned" subsidiaries of the democrat party. Once that is understood, the deafening silence is readily understood

bingo!

Guest 02-26-2015 03:08 PM

Just watch NBC and note what is absent from their reporting.
Especially the major issues of the day and specifically anything terrorist related/oriented, or about Islamic radicals. Or anything that would not shine the Obama star.

All the main stream lettered networks are the same. NBC is by far the worst


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