CPAC Straw Poll
 

The "straw poll" taken at the CPAC meeting had Ram Paul leading everyone with over 26 percent of the votes. Rubio got only 3 percent which was the same as Trump. Walker of Wisconsin got 21 percent.

Basically, none of these clowns could hope to beat Hillary Clinton on their best day.

These wingnuts had better find a way of being more inclusive to women, all minorities, young voters, gay and lesbians voters, and start voting for issues that concern this bloc of voters.

One can only conclude from this post that it is impossible for you to address anything without the usual name calling or pigeon holing of other posters.

Worst of all continuing to make complete and totally invalid assumptions (as you have in past threads) that
women, all minorities, young voters, gay and lesbians voters are locked up by the democratic party and there are NONE with an opposing alignment.

One can only discredit their position with this behavior and off the wall assumptions.

Must be operating on the assumption that a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth (for some).

How about a double dog dare to make your point without disparaging others or their thoughts?

More baiting.:icon_bored:

[QUOTE=Guest;1021944]One can only conclude from this post that it is impossible for you to address anything without the usual name calling or pigeon holing of other posters.

Worst of all continuing to make complete and totally invalid assumptions (as you have in past threads) that
women, all minorities, young voters, gay and lesbians voters are locked up by the democratic party and there are NONE with an opposing alignment.

One can only discredit their position with this behavior and off the wall assumptions.

Must be operating on the assumption that a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth (for some).

How about a double dog dare to make your point without disparaging others or their thoughts?[/QUOTE

The CPAC is over and all the speakers climbed into their one clown car and left National Harbor. :wave:

I will give it to you that there are some of the women, minorities, young voters, gays and lesbians who will vote for Republicans and who do like their conservative viewpoints - but the overwhelming number will vote liberal. If you can prove different, show me a citation.

George W Bush got 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004, John McCain got 37% in 2008, and Mitt Romney got 27% in 2012. Anyone notice a trend developing? Also, Barack Obama got 95% of the black vote in 2012.

Therefore the worst dem fear is a black republican that speaks spanish against a white democrat:sigh:

How shallow can you get? Are you placing all of the GOP hopes on the color of their candidate's skin and their linguistic abilities? Good luck with that.

Can Ben Carson speak Spanish? I guess you need not worry, he is honesty so intelligent that he could learn Spanish before the primaries.

The biggest challenge for the democrats would be a republican who supports a pathway to citizenship for 11,000,000 undocumented residents, who supports a woman's right to choose (the law of the land), same sex marriage (which will soon become the law of the land), raising the minimum wage, and universal health care.

It's not the color of the next candidate's skin, or the languages he/she speaks, or his or her gender, but the policies he/she is espousing.

Now why in the :swear: is it OK for one to take credit for a black candidate pulling the vote but not the opposotion.

It must be pure hell trying to get around on one way streets all the time.

Since there is no ignore button I will no longer participate in a merry go round waste of time.

My focus for 2016 is going to be on the candidate that can walk into the widow maker left behind by Obama and reaffirm our adherence to the US Constitution, turn the economy around, reset relationships with our allies, repeal ObamaCare and ObamaNet, Dodd-Frank, remove the mountains of unnecessary regulations are that are strangling businesses , streamline our tax system and remove the loopholes and freebies utilized to garner votes resulting in making us competitive nationally nd internationally.

The social issues such as abortion, same sex marriage, etc are issues I will ignore and issues I believe should be decided by the people via state referendums.

I am inclined to believe that a truly conservative candidate is needed to right the wrongs of the Obama Administration. I am inclined to believe that Jeb Bush is not that candidates and that he will only siphon votes and campaign contribution from viable candidates.

If my recollection is right the reason Romney lost was because far too many white voters did not vote in 2012 because they viewed Romney not to be conservative enough.

I voted for Romney because he was the only candidate I believed carried with him a moral imperative.

Gob Bless This Nation

So much for the "pact" in the previous thread ...

My focus for 2016 is going to be on the candidate that can walk in the same shoes as Obama and continue the policies that has reaffirmed our standing as great nation. These last 6 years, our economy has turned around with businesses turning in record profits, unemployment is way down with more jobs being created since the 1990's, taken our troops out of harms way in a futile land war, addressed our health care crisis with ObamaCare, implemented Dodd-Frank to help prevent future bailouts, pursued environmental regulations to address air, water and climate change, pursued changes in our tax system to remove the loopholes so that companies that take advantage of our infrastructure also pay for it.

Also, he has supported social issues such as abortion, same sex marriage.

I sincerely hope we continue this path.

One has to love this nation!

Far too many white voters did not vote because they did not think Romney was conservative enough? Who the heck did they think would win if they did not vote? It is good that brain-dead people like that did not vote!

The right for women to choose is the law of the land. Affordable Care Act is the law of the land. Gay marriage will soon be the law of the land. Get out of the 19th century and deal with it!

The economy has been turned around. Read the newspapers and stop listening to Fox.

so waht does the law of the land supposed to mean.
We are in an era where the laws are not worth the paper they are written upon.
No enforcement to selective enforcement of existing laws.

Best example? ILLEGAL immigration. COming in by the thousands daily without the need for a single question just c'mon in and sign up for your benefits.

In recent years the law of the land has lost it's luster.....hence it is not impressive as it used to be and contributes no more validity than a current opinion...right or wrong does not matter much on too many issues.

The economy has been improving for what? 5 years? And you want to turn it around? That would mean having the economy get worse, you know. And they say Obama is the one who doesn't love America.

The more I read, the more I listen to others opinions, the more I witness the serious consequences of Obama's decision the more I am convinced that a truly conservative candidate is the best pick for Republicans if they desire to return to the White House.

My concern is that far too many potential voters do not understand how fragile this nation is becoming and that it is going to take a very strong, straight froward and ethical adult that will ignore the pressure groups, lobbyist, etc and return this nation to its exceptional status.

If you have missed it adults are missing in the Obama Administration

I wonder if the Republicans remember 1964? If not, that strategy will rekindle your memory!

I was thinking more like Walker-Rubio against whoever the Dems nominate after Hillarys campaign implodes on various ethical issues

Caution: remember nothing bad in Obama's past ever came close to imploding.
All Clinton needs is a gift of gab that sucks in those drinking the
extra strength party kool aide.

Also remember Obama is the poster child for qualifications not being
a factor.

She does have a distinct disadvantage of significance that Obama did not have...being able to blame the previous party in office for everything that is wrong. Not being able to throw sticks and stones for the previous 8 years has to be a major party issue.

In lieu of drinking kool aide, one might want to read the Fed minutes of March 2009.

FRB: FOMC Minutes, March 17-18, 2009

Or how American Iraqi casualties by month:

iCasualties | OIF | Iraq | Fatalities By Month

And the point to be made is what?

The point is that some fail to remember how far this country has come in 6 years. I wonder how many people on this forum lost love ones during that war or friends or family lost their homes or jobs during this period.

Hmm.....everyone in my immediate family lost their jobs in 2013-2014. Two of us are now part of the "lost numbers" - one took very early retirement under duress and the other is severely underemployed. Only one has recovered from that misfortune and did so by picking up and moving halfway across the country after job searching daily for 4 months in the area we currently live. He was able to find a job within one week when he moved to a "red" state where the economy is booming - no thanks to the feds, but to the excellent state govt where he now resides. The people who think the unemployment numbers are correct are fools - we know MANY more people in our same situation. We are no longer counted as unemployed, even though we ARE, by no fault of our own or by our own choice.

I find the statement above to be ambiguous and unable to determine whether the intent is to complement the actions of the past 6 years to make things better.

Or lay blame to the past 6 years for the situations cited.

I thought THIS PERIOD referred to prior to 2009 due to the links the poster was referring to in their previous post, which was my reasoning for responding about job loss in 2013-2014. Maybe poster can clarify.

I actually like Bobby Jindahl as a presidential canidate. He is a smart governer and mighty bright even though he is indian from India. He makes good sense when he wont take fereral funds for Louisiana and wants federal hands off his adopted state.

Dont make any difference from Obama if Jindahl isnt white. He is just as good as most caucasions. He probably got my vote.

You are correct. The links indicate a period 6 years ago when hundreds of of our soldiers were dying in a can't win ground war and the economy was in shambles. I think one would agree that today less soldiers are dying and the economy has significantly improved. Thank you for looking at the links.

Sounds like your family did not contribute to the sale of a record number of automobiles where that industry was saved by the feds. Were they able to take advantage of fantastic recovery of the stock market due to record profits by private industry? I know several blue states including California have state surpluses now that the economy is booming. Sounds like your family is a minority in the recovery. That is unfortunate.

Dear Guest: Perhaps you need to take a another look the bailout of GM penalized taxpayers, ignored creditors rights unlawfully handed over a good portion of ownership to the union and only temporarily halted the bad financial situation with GM. In fact the entire bailout of the country by Obama was wasted because it was siphoned off by his greedy friends who produced nothing .

As for the stock market the only winners are the extremely rich investors and the only reason the market was doing well was because of the Fed's policy of QE and )% interest rates. The commercial investors have been on a sugar high now addicted and facing the fact that the Fed can't continue to hold back interest rates. Worse yet if you an individual that relies on CD's money market account savings accounts it has actually cost you to have banks hold your money. Retirees who relied on interest bearing accounts have lost big time. Do yourself a favor when any agency etc produces a glowing report review it with skepticism . The economy is set to take off only if the government get the heck out of the way and stops picking winners and losers such as GM and green industries that continue to fail

Personal Best Regards:

Most of the people I associate with in the The Villages are very happy with their portfolio and are not commercial investors nor very rich. It has managed to provide them a very happy and comfortable lifestyle here. Fortunately, their returns are based on record profits of private industry who have also done very well. Interest bearing accounts have always losing investment since the bank is taking that money to invest what that account holder should have invested in the first place. Therefore, the bank wins and you lose.

Ask the good people who work in the auto industry who sold a record amount of vehicles if the bailout was wasted on GM and Chrysler. I believe they are very with their jobs and bonuses they received. Also, the bailout was a win-win for those companies, the people who worked there and the American Taxpayer to a total of more the $53 billion in profit! Nice investment for America!

see http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/

Ironically, the unemployed/underemployed are healthcare workers, an industry that the feds now have their hands all over! Unfortunately, with the low reimbursement rates from many of these federally funded programs, most organizations can no longer carry the salaries of many professionals, so many are being let go or cuts are being made in various ways that will ultimately negatively impact the consumer. Many jobs performed previously by highly trained professionals are now being taken over by barely more than high school graduates - scary, indeed! Govt involvement does not often, if ever, result in higher standards, better service, or better quality.

Remember that, per the dogma of the secular religion known as Liberalism, it's intentions that matter, not results

Health care has been one of best performing sectors of the stock market of the last few years. For example Janus Global Life Sciences has had annualized return of 38% over the last three years (which means it doubles every two years!) Therefore, these have been very good years for these private companies. In addition, the salaries of a registered nurse fresh out of school is now approaching $100k/yr. Sounds like to mean, the reimbursement rates have not had a negative effect on profits nor compensation for highly trained professionals.

Again the investment returns are based on an industry that is getting favorable treatment because of the Fed's policies. It is uncertain if the bull market will continue once the Fed exits. so far they have been reluctant to do so. Chrysler has bee helped more by Fiat then the bailout it received.
GM is headed for real problems Ask the GM creditors if it was a win win for them The so called $53 million i n profit was illusory in that it was trickery accounting.

It is unfortunate that IF you do not agree with some figures, it is trickery accounting. The feds bought part of company at certain stock price and sold it a higher price. That is investment returns (559 out of 780 investments were profitable). Also, if as you state the healthcare industry is getting favorable treatment but at the same time are being underfunded due to fed policy and can't afford to pay its professionals. So how is the fed helping or hurting the industry?

Those numbers all sound wonderful, but the REALITY is good luck finding and retaining a job. Never before have I seen more nurses, pharmacists, and various other healthcare professionals unable to find jobs. Many young people who had intentions of going to college for healthcare professions are telling me they are being discouraged because of all of the negative feedback they are receiving from the REAL job market. It is NOT a good time for healthcare. I read all kinds of similar info like that which you quote above, even in professional journals, etc - those of us still out in the trenches find it laughable if it wasn't so disturbing. My husband has taken it upon himself to try and educate the educators involved in these professions and even some of them are beginning to acknowledge these truths. It will all come out in the end - unfortunately, unless something changes, it won't be very pretty.

You are terribly misinformed. California has a minor surplus due solely to large tax increases voted in by the masses of unsuccessful liberals upon the successful. Tax revenue is flat otherwise.

The fantastic recovery of the stock market is largely attributable to the Fed's Quantitative Easing and record low interest rates. Investors are all but forced into stocks to stay ahead of inflation. It's very clever - one arm of government issues $1 TRILLION of Treasury debt and another arm of government purchases it.

Companies are struggling, but slowly recovering in spite of incredibly burdensome regulation and choking taxation. Imagine where this country could be if the president had a clue about economics.

Do you have any clue why healthcare has been performing so well? I strongly doubt you do. Hint: it has "something" to do with Obamacare, electronic medical records and the efforts of scientists creating pharmaceuticals.

$100k starting nurse salary - :1rotfl:

There are ALWAYS a rare exception such as attracting a nurse to Nome, Alaska with $, but the average starting salary for nurses is nowhere near $100k...(I'll Google it later when I get a minute.)

I am from California and you are misinformed. Tax revenue is not flat. They are definitely not flat in Wisconsin where there is $2B deficit (Difficult state budget a 'self-inflicted wound' : Wsj) as a result of Walker's failed policy.

The stock market is performing well because of low inflation and prospering companies enjoying record profits as a percentage of sales (in excess of 13%). The Treasury debt is being bought by individuals and companies from all of world because they have tremendous faith in the USA. I believe you have a misunderstanding of how government bonds are sold.