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NJblue 06-24-2008 03:58 PM

Reasons for moving out of TV
 
Just curious...

graciegirl 06-24-2008 10:03 PM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
I have heard of a case where one spouse liked it and the other didn't. He was missing his children and grandchildren, NO it was HE who wanted to return to their old home.

Villages Kahuna 06-25-2008 02:28 AM

"Grumpy People Don't Last Long."
 
That's what our Villages sales rep told us when I asked whether everyone being so happy and getting along was really what it appeared. She explained, "sure there are some nasty, grumpy people who buy here. But they don't last long", she said. I asked why and she responded, "Grumps quickly find that no one wants to hear of their complaints about life, their house, the neighbors, the developer, etc." She opined that grumps quickly find themselves with almost no one to talk to and so they leave.

That's surely the way it appears to me. In fact, I don't think I know any grumps.

Whoops! I forgot the POA!

graciegirl 06-25-2008 09:52 AM

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You know that is right, Kahuna. I think that it is a place for people who are comfortable with themselves and others, have had some life experiences that have 'rounded off' their sharp places and enough successes and failures that they can relate a lot to others similar experiences. I think that that in itself is my biggest draw to TV, that for the most part everyone is grown up and most still act like kids. I love that quality of adventure and fun.

Usually the above lends itself to a sense of humor which I seem to be finding in people at every turn.

Happy62 06-25-2008 12:48 PM

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:hot:

MOVED TO STONECREST... MORE HOME FOR THE MONEY.. SAME AMMENITIES and access to THE VILLAGES ACTIVITES

mcelheny 06-25-2008 03:12 PM

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People leave for as many reasons as there are people. Quite a few of my friends have left. All had different reasons...for some the summers were too hot and they moved as a group to NC. Some found they got homesick and wanted to go back home. Many found they wanted a smaller gated community or a cheaper gated community. Some just got bored and moved to the big cities on the coasts. I once thought I would be a full timer but I am so loving my hometown with all my friends, a college. Lake Erie, beautiful people that I am having second thoughts. I think being a snowbird would be perfect for us. One thing I know is I find wonderful people everywhere I go...

graciegirl 06-25-2008 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy62
:hot:

MOVED TO STONECREST... MORE HOME FOR THE MONEY.. SAME AMMENITIES and access to THE VILLAGES ACTIVITES

You live in StoneCrest? You access the villages activities? Hmmm

nONIE 06-25-2008 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl
You know that is right, Kahuna. I think that it is a place for people who are comfortable with themselves and others, have had some life experiences that have 'rounded off' their sharp places and enough successes and failures that they can relate a lot to others similar experiences. I think that that in itself is my biggest draw to TV, that for the most part everyone is grown up and acts like one.

Usually the above lends itself to a sense of humor which I seem to be finding in people at every turn.

Gracie,

Whose grown up??? LOL

My draw to tv is quite the opposite. I feel and act like a kid again, having fun and casting fate to the wind. I suppose I sound very immature but fortunately I have found people who feel as I do and thats why I dlont think I would ever consider moving out of TV(once I get there).

Gracie, even tho Im a child at heart can we still be friends???? ;)

tkret 06-25-2008 04:03 PM

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As a Villager Wannabe (very soon) but a frequent visitor, the only reason I can think of is ::: THEY'VE LOST THEIR MINDS!!!!! ;D

graciegirl 06-25-2008 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonie
Gracie,

Whose grown up??? LOL

My draw to tv is quite the opposite. I feel and act like a kid again, having fun and casting fate to the wind. I suppose I sound very immature but fortunately I have found people who feel as I do and thats why I dlont think I would ever consider moving out of TV(once I get there).

Gracie, even tho Im a child at heart can we still be friends???? ;)

Nonie.

You made me rethink what I wrote and I changed it. What I meant to somehow convey is that people had the wisdom from living awhile to be more tolerant, forgiving, comfortable and accepting of themselves and others. And also the joy of throwing caution to the winds and just enjoy living for pure fun.

I do want to be your young friend. ;)

GracieGirl

SteveZ 06-25-2008 05:36 PM

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Over the years have seen a lot of people move to Florida (not just TV), only to leave a short time later. The most common reasons I've seen are:

1. It's too hot. Florida is not Michigan or New York. To adapt requires a change-of-pace. Eventually you adapt, but many are too impatient for that.

2. Death in the family. I saw this a lot where my folks lived (in the New Port Richey area) where one of the spouses (usually the male) died, and the survivor cried, "My kids need me" and book North ASAP.

3. I'm lonely. For the very shy who have taken lifetimes to develop just a couple outside-the-family relationships (or maybe none at all), this is a hard one.

If you can give a place like TV (or FL in general) a chance, you can find may reasons to mitigate each of the above out-reasons. It's a matter of personal choice.

nONIE 06-25-2008 08:37 PM

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Graciegirl,

Well put! :bigthumbsup:

renielarson 06-25-2008 11:30 PM

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I have a friend who moved out of TV.

His reason....he is not social...the social life did not appeal to him.

To each their own....even if I don't agree.

chuckinca 06-26-2008 05:10 AM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl
You live in StoneCrest? You access the villages activities? Hmmm


Gracie:

He said "same amenities and access to villages activities" Not use of villages amenities.

Most of villages amenities are open to the public, in fact the public is encouraged to use them. The only villages amenities that are strictly for residents (and their guests) are the executive courses, rec centers and pools and Katy Belle's. Stonecrest, Spruce Creek South, Spruce Creek, Water Oak, Orange Blossom, etc, etc, have all those things except the last one which is survivable. I would imagine that the population of the many other retirement communities near TV is probably around 30K and most of those people do a lot of their spending in the villages - as was the intent of the TV developer.


graciegirl 06-26-2008 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckinca

Gracie:

He said "same amenities and access to villages activities" Not use of villages amenities.

Most of villages amenities are open to the public, in fact the public is encouraged to use them. The only villages amenities that are strictly for residents (and their guests) are the executive courses, rec centers and pools and Katy Belle's. Stonecrest, Spruce Creek South, Spruce Creek, Water Oak, Orange Blossom, etc, etc, have all those things except the last one which is survivable. I would imagine that the population of the many other retirement communities near TV is probably around 30K and most of those people do a lot of their spending in the villages - as was the intent of the TV developer.


Thank you Russ. I am beginning to sound like a veteran villager. Defensive!

We have friends who live in Stone Crest and I have only been to their house which is nice. The community does not seem to have restrictions on the color of the homes (some are wildly colored) or upkeep (some are not well kept ) or additions (some are not lovely) which is making it appear spotty as they say in real estate. I am glad for the restrictions we have from our "benevolent dictator". ;)

Russ_Boston 06-26-2008 01:58 PM

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GG - It was actually Chuck's reply - but I agree with his thoughts.

billy2fish 06-26-2008 04:19 PM

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In happy 62 post he mentioned his reasons for moving out of TV to stonecrest.Let me start by informing you that I do not live in TV,but as soon as i can I will be living in this perfect utopia will be up sept. 30th till oct.6th looking for our little piece of heaven on earth.Happy62 said same amenities, not quite,cost to join golf course $ 2000.00 then $ 2900.00 a year lets see 2000 plus 20 years at 2900 comes to $ 60000.00.He said he had free access to TV well welcome but I hope that doesn't mean his golf cart is welcome too. In my opinion every one should be welcomed to TV,It's good for the businesses that operate within the community,but as for parking in the town squares after 5pm I think that villagers should have priority maybe a sticker on the windshield,and nonvillagers some 3 or so blocks away.What is your opinion?

graciegirl 06-26-2008 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billy2fish
In happy 62 post he mentioned his reasons for moving out of TV to stonecrest.Let me start by informing you that I do not live in TV,but as soon as i can I will be living in this perfect utopia will be up sept. 30th till oct.6th looking for our little piece of heaven on earth.Happy62 said same amenities, not quite,cost to join golf course $ 2000.00 then $ 2900.00 a year lets see 2000 plus 20 years at 2900 comes to $ 60000.00.He said he had free access to TV well welcome but I hope that doesn't mean his golf cart is welcome too. In my opinion every one should be welcomed to TV,It's good for the businesses that operate within the community,but as for parking in the town squares after 5pm I think that villagers should have priority maybe a sticker on the windshield,and nonvillagers some 3 or so blocks away.What is your opinion?

Sounds good to me.

Hurry on down. We are all missing the fun. Here I am with a house in Hadley on a very hot sticky Cincinnati day, when I could be in TV and have the same.

Russ_Boston 06-26-2008 05:13 PM

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I would assume that the $2900 per year pays for all greens fees. If you played at one of the championship courses in TV you'd pay around $30 per round (average between summer and winter costs). Two times per week times 50 weeks = $3000 so that's kind of a wash. There are a lot of other comparisons that could be drawn such as only having the choice of one course, no 'free' execs etc but that cost comparison you gave doesn't really hold.

billy2fish 06-26-2008 09:07 PM

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8) Well Russ it holds true when all you play is the execs.And thats mostly what I will be playing. But the real question is that they will be using the golf paths and parking at the town squares.maybe thats allowed in Norton mass. its a little different in east Boston. :cop:

mcelheny 06-26-2008 10:18 PM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
NJBlue,
Good poll! 72 people have voted so far.

Russ_Boston 06-26-2008 10:19 PM

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It may hold true but it's apples to oranges. Full size course to execs. Don't get me wrong. I love the variety that TV offers for us golfers but even those in other surrounding communities can play them as well for a higher fee.

redwitch 06-26-2008 11:26 PM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl
Sounds good to me.

Hurry on down. We are all missing the fun. Here I am with a house in Hadley on a very hot sticky Cincinnati day, when I could be in TV and have the same.

No question you could have a hot, sticky day in TV today and yesterday and tomorrow and tomorrow and ..... The humidity is winning and I STILL love TV.

graciegirl 06-26-2008 11:32 PM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckinca

Gracie:

He said "same amenities and access to villages activities" Not use of villages amenities.

Most of villages amenities are open to the public, in fact the public is encouraged to use them. The only villages amenities that are strictly for residents (and their guests) are the executive courses, rec centers and pools and Katy Belle's. Stonecrest, Spruce Creek South, Spruce Creek, Water Oak, Orange Blossom, etc, etc, have all those things except the last one which is survivable. I would imagine that the population of the many other retirement communities near TV is probably around 30K and most of those people do a lot of their spending in the villages - as was the intent of the TV developer.


Chuck.

I am trying to think of communities close by other than StoneCrest and the one adjacent to Lake Miona, I can think of one more on 441, other than that, all that comes to my mind are the areas outside the municipalities with sporadic and little groups of homes and the isolated homes that look like they have been there for a long time. There is also a community of manufactured homes I saw. 30 thousand more folks in other communties. We, TV, are supposedly 70 K if we were all there at the same time. We must be almost as big as Ocala. Maybe I am wrong.

Remember, I am very much a newby.I love maps ,love navigating around and seeing what is there. We found some easier routes going north and south that we didn't have to go through the villages. Driving a car of course.

I am interested in what is around us.

Anyway, friends, educate me. What are the other developments and how big are they? and how close? There is a Dell Webb. What is that called?

jnieman 06-27-2008 02:30 AM

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[quote=graciegirl ]
Sounds good to me.

Hurry on down. We are all missing the fun. Here I am with a house in Hadley on a very hot sticky Cincinnati day, when I could be in TV and have the same.
[/quotfe]
Hi graciegirl I live in Hadley and am from Dayton, Ohio. When are you moving here?

graciegirl 06-27-2008 12:17 PM

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[quote=jnieman ]
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl
Sounds good to me.

Hurry on down. We are all missing the fun. Here I am with a house in Hadley on a very hot sticky Cincinnati day, when I could be in TV and have the same.
[/quotfe]
Hi graciegirl I live in Hadley and am from Dayton, Ohio. When are you moving here?

We have moved enough things in to "exist" three weeks ago. We won't be selling our home in West Chester just yet, or maybe not at all. We look to share time eventually equally between the two places as long as our daughter and grandchildren are in West Chester.

My husband is still not quite retired, but that is coming soon. Our plans right now are to return in the fall for an undetermined length of time. I am busily sewing, painting pictures for the walls and accumulating accessories and thinking about our house on Havana Trail every available minute. PM me of where you live in Dayton. We Buckeyes have an opportunity for some great partys!

GracieGirl

Skip 07-09-2008 11:50 PM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
Death = Health Issues

No?

Skip

sschuler1 07-10-2008 02:20 PM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
Yes Skip, that would be the ultimate health issue!

golfpro 07-10-2008 04:36 PM

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We made the visit and the whole tour. However, we were looking at other States and communities. We have chosen another State. Our biggest minus for TV was actually FL weather. Neither one of us could get past the humidity. It kept us indoors, which is so opposite of our personalities and we love playing golf, etc. My wife actually gets ill. We tried playing 18 a couple of days and couldn't even finish.

We thoroughly enjoy reading the posts (mostly !!) and would love to continue to read and sometimes post if that is permissible from time to time.

God Bless you all.

Russ_Boston 07-10-2008 11:14 PM

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Golfpro - I enjoyed your posts - best of luck in your retirement choice.

islandgal 07-10-2008 11:25 PM

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golfpro-

Best of luck to you. I can certainly understand - I am still adjusting myself.
I am curious to learn what state you chose.

Shirleevee 07-10-2008 11:54 PM

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I wish you the best![/move]


Shirleevee

graciegirl 07-11-2008 01:08 AM

Re: Reasons for moving out of TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gemorc
Thanks again Kahuna, another nice shot at the POA.

????

renielarson 07-11-2008 01:16 AM

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gemorc

You have to admit the POA has the rep of being the negative voice here. I'm not saying their purpose/voice isn't warranted in some cases but it would be nice to read some positive feedback from them.

Or...is their purpose to only capitalize on the negative? Don't pounce on me please, that is an honest question that I really don't know the answer, ok?

Niels 07-11-2008 01:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by golfpro
We made the visit and the whole tour. However, we were looking at other States and communities. We have chosen another State. Our biggest minus for TV was actually FL weather. Neither one of us could get past the humidity. It kept us indoors, which is so opposite of our personalities and we love playing golf, etc. My wife actually gets ill. We tried playing 18 a couple of days and couldn't even finish.

We thoroughly enjoy reading the posts (mostly !!) and would love to continue to read and sometimes post if that is permissible from time to time.

God Bless you all.

I wish you the best of luck in your retirement choice. Florida is very humid in the summer. My wife and I considered just spending the winter in Florida but I really don't want the cost and the hassle of maintaining two different homes.

Let us know where you wind up going to.


barb1191 07-11-2008 01:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brightspot01
gemorc

You have to admit the POA has the rep of being the negative voice here. I'm not saying their purpose/voice isn't warranted in some cases but it would be nice to read some positive feedback from them.

Or...is their purpose to only capitalize on the negative? Don't pounce on me please, that is an honest question that I really don't know the answer, ok?

Bright..... You've heard the expression, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." Unfortunately, the only way to get it fixed is to "squeak."

When one is supporting a cause, how can one be anything other than negative over things that are ignored that need fixing?

Kahuna's last comment re POA was merely high-school mentality. Am surprised that a man of his stature would stoop so low.

barb

renielarson 07-11-2008 01:53 AM

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Barb

I don't consider anyone's opinions as "high school mentality" and I am disappointed you added: "Am surprised that a man of his stature would stoop so low."

The problem here in the forum is if someone doesn't agree with another's opinion, they are put down and called names as you did with "high school mentality"...and referring to someone's stature of stooping low.

I believe everyone has a right to voice their own opinions and those opinions should be honored whether one agrees or not...without name calling.

It's just a matter of respect.

Please don't take my post wrong...I believe we all need to be more accepting of other's viewpoints and not make negative judgements.

This has nothing to do with whether or not I agree with you or anyone else.

barb1191 07-11-2008 03:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brightspot01
Barb

I don't consider anyone's opinions as "high school mentality" and I am disappointed you added: "Am surprised that a man of his stature would stoop so low."

The problem here in the forum is if someone doesn't agree with another's opinion, they are put down and called names as you did with "high school mentality"...and referring to someone's stature of stooping low.

I believe everyone has a right to voice their own opinions and those opinions should be honored whether one agrees or not...without name calling.

It's just a matter of respect.

Please don't take my post wrong...I believe we all need to be more accepting of other's viewpoints and not make negative judgements.

This has nothing to do with whether or not I agree with you or anyone else.

...and you don't call what Kahuna said about the POA a negative judgement? One of his many negative judgements about the POA. I most certainly would NOT consider his comment about the POA as positive. And you can overlook what he said and feel the need to take issue with me?

Sorry you feel that way, Bright. I found his comment to be a put down on something I strongly believe in, and his glib remark about the POA was totally uncalled for. He can voice his negative opinion to issues, however, when he consistently insults an organization who is ALWAYS there to help people, that's a put down and high school mentality. In fact, I thought of a few choice expletives about him that wouldn't fly here,

He's voicing his negative opinion and so am I, except we are not on the same team. Sorry that you obviously defend his insults, and the need to comment on my opinion.

His calling the POA "grumps" is not name-calling?

beady 07-11-2008 03:17 AM

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Well said, Bright, :agree:

It would make this forum so much more interesting and informative if we all could listen to everyones opinion and follow up with our own, without the jibes and criticism. To often the negative comments overtake and dilute any real discussion.


zcaveman 07-11-2008 03:25 AM

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Am I missing a post? I went through all of the posts and I did not even see a Kahuna post. How can he dis the POA if there is no post?


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