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Guest 03-26-2015 11:07 AM

Another Police Beating
 
This time a black person is beaten by white cops. He did run a stop sign so he deserved it. Note that the cops approach guns drawn, surely the typical manner when encountering a nearly 60 year old driving a Cadillac. Did I mention that he is black? Or that the arresting cop has a history of being charged with planting evidence or that the man's drug tests were all negative? Or that mysteriously all the mikes which record the conversation were turned off? Well, at least they didn't assassinate this one.

Detroit man says Inkster police beat him during traffic stop

I'm sure they had a very good reason to be following him, dragging him from his car, beating him, choking him, using the taser, making up charges which the judge immediately threw out. Just the usual stuff for a black man in America. Too bad the cameras didn't malfunction. Where is Rosemary Woods when you need her. Why does the evil media continue to cover these stories? It's not news when it happens and it just gets all those thugs in Ferguson and that tax avoiding white hater reverend an excuse for the next riot.

Guest 03-26-2015 12:15 PM

Something just doesn't seem right with this story. Between the cocaine charge and the fact that it took that many policemen to subdue and arrest him. Don't agree and/or understand at all with the punches to the head, but another question I have is why is this story just coming out now when it happened in January? I also don't see it being picked up by too many other news sites besides NBC and MSNBC. I would be hesitant to jump on this story until all the facts are in.

Guest 03-26-2015 12:16 PM

Sounds like another tragic case, but I think the elephant in the room should be addressed as the far LARGER problem it is!



"• Almost 11,000 black people were killed by other black people between the time unarmed teen Trayvon Martin in Florida was killed and his shooter, George Zimmerman, was acquitted.

• Despite the large number of killings, it's hard to name a single case where a black person killed another black person during this time.

• The United States ranks third in the world for murder.

• If Chicago; Detroit; Washington, D.C.; and New Orleans were removed from the United States' murder statistics, the U.S. would drop to fourth from the bottom for murders."

Guest 03-26-2015 12:17 PM

Fact Checker: Black-on-black killing claims examined

Guest 03-26-2015 01:03 PM

Blue Bloods TV series depicted a balanced approach to this topic.

News media has to be fed 24/7. There are many haters out there spreading lies and innuendo. White men are too often depicted as elitist or fools or evil.
I am sick of it. Its time white guys stopped being polite and speak up

Guest 03-26-2015 01:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035041)
Sounds like another tragic case, but I think the elephant in the room should be addressed as the far LARGER problem it is!



"• Almost 11,000 black people were killed by other black people between the time unarmed teen Trayvon Martin in Florida was killed and his shooter, George Zimmerman, was acquitted.

• Despite the large number of killings, it's hard to name a single case where a black person killed another black person during this time.

• The United States ranks third in the world for murder.

• If Chicago; Detroit; Washington, D.C.; and New Orleans were removed from the United States' murder statistics, the U.S. would drop to fourth from the bottom for murders."

Source for those numbers please. I am especially surprised by the fourth from the bottom number. Some countries have almost no murders. How many in the Vatican per year? I'd like to see your data as you want to discuss the LARGER problem. Let's get the numbers straight first

Guest 03-26-2015 01:48 PM

New Video Allegedly Shows Cop Planting Drug Evidence After Beating Unarmed Man | ThinkProgress


Read about the number of lawsuits against this 'robocop' and the amount of money he has cost the city in settlements. Now there is a video of him planting drugs in the man's car.

Guest 03-26-2015 01:53 PM

Why are there posts about blacks killing blacks on this thread? It is about three or four white Detroit area cops who dragged a 64 year old black man out of his car, put him in a choke hold, punched him in the head 16 times, and then used a Taser on him. All of this was caught on a dashcam.

One of the officers had previously been charged with planting cocaine on a person. Looks like the pattern continued.

What more proof does anyone need that this 64 year old man was brutalized by the police for no reason?

Guest 03-26-2015 02:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035088)
Why are there posts about blacks killing blacks on this thread? It is about three or four white Detroit area cops who dragged a 64 year old black man out of his car, put him in a choke hold, punched him in the head 16 times, and then used a Taser on him. All of this was caught on a dashcam.

One of the officers had previously been charged with planting cocaine on a person. Looks like the pattern continued.

What more proof does anyone need that this 64 year old man was brutalized by the police for no reason?

The point is, most assault and murder of blacks is overwhelmingly committed by other blacks, not a "relatively rare" case of blacks being assaulted by whites. Why concentrate attention on the "relatively rare" situation and ignore the "relatively common" situation, if not to promote racial animus?

Guest 03-26-2015 03:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035088)
Why are there posts about blacks killing blacks on this thread? It is about three or four white Detroit area cops who dragged a 64 year old black man out of his car, put him in a choke hold, punched him in the head 16 times, and then used a Taser on him. All of this was caught on a dashcam.

One of the officers had previously been charged with planting cocaine on a person. Looks like the pattern continued.

What more proof does anyone need that this 64 year old man was brutalized by the police for no reason?


And why is this police officer still on the job?

Guest 03-26-2015 04:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035106)
The point is, most assault and murder of blacks is overwhelmingly committed by other blacks, not a "relatively rare" case of blacks being assaulted by whites. Why concentrate attention on the "relatively rare" situation and ignore the "relatively common" situation, if not to promote racial animus?

How about the point being to deflect the real question and to muddy up the water with an unrelated situation? Just something that my Political Science professor, Saul Alinski, would always stress as a way to counter a situation that cannot be logically explained - and used most often by neo-conservatives or other reactionaries.

Back to the topic, what valid reasons does anyone see for three policemen to drag a 64 year old man from his car, put him in a chokehold, pound his head 16 times and finally Tase him?

Guest 03-26-2015 04:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035195)
...Back to the topic, what valid reasons does anyone see for three policemen to drag a 64 year old man from his car, put him in a chokehold, pound his head 16 times and finally Tase him?

Absolutely NONE -- Next topic.

Guest 03-26-2015 06:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035195)
How about the point being to deflect the real question and to muddy up the water with an unrelated situation? Just something that my Political Science professor, Saul Alinski, would always stress as a way to counter a situation that cannot be logically explained - and used most often by neo-conservatives or other reactionaries.

Back to the topic, what valid reasons does anyone see for three policemen to drag a 64 year old man from his car, put him in a chokehold, pound his head 16 times and finally Tase him?

I don't understand how this occurred in the Democrat created utopia of Detroit? I mean Detroit has been governed by Democrats for more than 40 years. This SHOULD BE an absolute socialist utopia of health, wealth, and understanding. It should be brimming with compassion and awareness for everyone, and we should be celebrating its racial harmony and diversity. Instead, it's a decayed morass of widespread crime, blight and abandonment. Nice going liberals!

Guest 03-26-2015 06:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035275)
I don't understand how this occurred in the Democrat created utopia of Detroit? I mean Detroit has been governed by Democrats for more than 40 years. This SHOULD BE an absolute socialist utopia of health, wealth, and understanding. It should be brimming with compassion and awareness for everyone, and we should be celebrating its racial harmony and diversity. Instead, it's a decayed morass of widespread crime, blight and abandonment. Nice going liberals!

"Detroit has the highest murder and violent crime rate of any major city in the country, according to the FBI."


Detroit's Staggering Murder And Violent Crime Rate Are 'A Public Health Issue'

Guest 03-26-2015 07:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035275)
I don't understand how this occurred in the Democrat created utopia of Detroit? I mean Detroit has been governed by Democrats for more than 40 years. This SHOULD BE an absolute socialist utopia of health, wealth, and understanding. It should be brimming with compassion and awareness for everyone, and we should be celebrating its racial harmony and diversity. Instead, it's a decayed morass of widespread crime, blight and abandonment. Nice going liberals!

You would know if you had adequate reading comprehension that it didn't happen in Detroit. It happened in a suburb, but go ahead and change the subject. These cops are out of control. You ********** wonder why the negroes in this country don't just "do what the nice policeman tells you" and bring up side issues. This is about another in a series of black men getting beaten and killed by white cops for no reason or for as the cops like to say "failure to comply" Would you comply with an occupying force that seems to believe it is immune to the law? Of course you would because you've never lived as a black person.

Guest 03-26-2015 07:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035297)
You would know if you had adequate reading comprehension that it didn't happen in Detroit. It happened in a suburb, but go ahead and change the subject. These cops are out of control. You ********** wonder why the negroes in this country don't just "do what the nice policeman tells you" and bring up side issues. This is about another in a series of black men getting beaten and killed by white cops for no reason or for as the cops like to say "failure to comply" Would you comply with an occupying force that seems to believe it is immune to the law? Of course you would because you've never lived as a black person.

I don't understand why the issue of not complying is even being mentioned. In this case the driver was completely compliant other than seemingly he struggled to get his hands properly behind his back to be handcuffed while he was being choked and beaten in the head. Any normal person would have been able to not try to protect his own head and airway and comply passively

Guest 03-26-2015 07:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035297)
... You ********** wonder why the negroes in this country don't just "do what the nice policeman tells you" and bring up side issues. This is about another in a series of black men getting beaten and killed by white cops for no reason or for as the cops like to say "failure to comply" Would you comply with an occupying force that seems to believe it is immune to the law? Of course you would because you've never lived as a black person.

Why are you so upset at the handful of these incidents and not at the TENS OF THOUSANDS of assaults and murders of blacks by other blacks?

Guest 03-26-2015 08:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035311)
Why are you so upset at the handful of these incidents and not at the TENS OF THOUSANDS of assaults and murders of blacks by other blacks?

Once again, the neo-conservative mode of trying to redirect the question when they have no reasonable response.

And you can see that the African American vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The minority vote, the LGBT vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The female vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The young people vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The Hispanic vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The college graduate vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The old shrinking white vote (as well as shrinking other things) will go Republican. Sorry, old white guys, you lost again. Just drink a couple more beers at City Fire and try to remember the good old days.

Guest 03-26-2015 08:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035311)
Why are you so upset at the handful of these incidents and not at the TENS OF THOUSANDS of assaults and murders of blacks by other blacks?

Tell you what, I'll cut to the chase and answer for you.

You've been taught to be a victim by the Democrat party and the race baiters (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, etc...) Though white on black crime is literally minuscule (versus black on black), you've been taught to blame your circumstance on the white racist oppressors. You've been taught black on black crime is unimportant because it doesn't divide the community and races. It's comical, if it weren't so pathetic in its transparency and the negative consequences the constant race baiting it provokes.

You're being "handled", manipulated, used.... however you want to term it. Hopefully, one day the light switch will flip, and you'll awaken from your liberal victim-mentality and begin to see the cynical manipulation for what it is.

Guest 03-26-2015 08:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035336)
Once again, the neo-conservative mode of trying to redirect the question when they have no reasonable response.

And you can see that the African American vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The minority vote, the LGBT vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The female vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The young people vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The Hispanic vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The college graduate vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The old shrinking white vote (as well as shrinking other things) will go Republican. Sorry, old white guys, you lost again. Just drink a couple more beers at City Fire and try to remember the good old days.

The funny thing is you really don't get it. You don't seem to understand that the successful have learned to make money in any environment. Me and my friends have made our millions and are very comfortable, so comfortable that the party in power has very little effect on our lives.

It's the future of our children and grandchildren that's at risk if crazy liberals continue to drive this country further into debt, weaken its military and fail to enforce our borders and laws.

So cheer up, discard your victim mentality, and don't worry too much about the republican party. They decisively trounced the libs in the mid-terms, didn't they!

Guest 03-26-2015 09:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035195)
How about the point being to deflect the real question and to muddy up the water with an unrelated situation? Just something that my Political Science professor, Saul Alinski, would always stress as a way to counter a situation that cannot be logically explained - and used most often by neo-conservatives or other reactionaries.

Back to the topic, what valid reasons does anyone see for three policemen to drag a 64 year old man from his car, put him in a chokehold, pound his head 16 times and finally Tase him?

As I insinuated in an earlier post, I see no reason why he was being beat in the head like he was. But as far as the choke hold and consequent tazing, he does appear in the video to be putting up quite a fight. I will never understand why someone would resist arrest and then expect not to be roughed up in the process - I don't care whether you are black, white, or purple. That does not however justify in any way the head pounding. I do not know anything about whether the policeman planted drugs or not, but if so I find that reprehensible. Once again, I have to question if all of this is factual, why isn't it all over the media? Again, something just doesn't seem right.

Guest 03-26-2015 10:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035400)
As I insinuated in an earlier post, I see no reason why he was being beat in the head like he was. But as far as the choke hold and consequent tazing, he does appear in the video to be putting up quite a fight. I will never understand why someone would resist arrest and then expect not to be roughed up in the process - I don't care whether you are black, white, or purple. That does not however justify in any way the head pounding. I do not know anything about whether the policeman planted drugs or not, but if so I find that reprehensible. Once again, I have to question if all of this is factual, why isn't it all over the media? Again, something just doesn't seem right.

If someone has you in a chokehold, you are going to automatically be trying to get their arm off your neck. It is a natural reflex if you cannot breathe. That is not resisting arrest!

A 64 year old man vs 3 young police? Yeah, they were in real danger.

Guest 03-26-2015 10:36 PM

Retrospeculation = waste of time

Guest 03-26-2015 10:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035336)
Once again, the neo-conservative mode of trying to redirect the question when they have no reasonable response.

And you can see that the African American vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The minority vote, the LGBT vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The female vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.
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The young people vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The Hispanic vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The college graduate vote will go to the Democrats AGAIN.

The old shrinking white vote (as well as shrinking other things) will go Republican. Sorry, old white guys, you lost again. Just drink a couple more beers at City Fire and try to remember the good old days.

I must say ... nice job of putting your pathological hatred of white people on full display (yet again) and offering us all another glimpse into your sadly twisted soul. Usually hard core lefties are smart enough to obfuscate their true feelings about Judeo-Christian Americans but no one's ever accused you of being smart so no harm done.

Guest 03-27-2015 06:30 AM

Wow
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1035428)
I must say ... nice job of putting your pathological hatred of white people on full display (yet again) and offering us all another glimpse into your sadly twisted soul. Usually hard core lefties are smart enough to obfuscate their true feelings about Judeo-Christian Americans but no one's ever accused you of being smart so no harm done.

Just because someone disagrees with your neo nazi, tea party hatred of non whites, you automatically label someone anti Judeo- Christian. Name one accomplishment of your beloved hate filled tea party!
You can't so crawl back under your rock!

Guest 03-27-2015 07:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035478)
Just because someone disagrees with your neo nazi, tea party hatred of non whites, you automatically label someone anti Judeo- Christian. Name one accomplishment of your beloved hate filled tea party!
You can't so crawl back under your rock!

You know your most recent post was so off the charts deranged I do believe you still have spittle on your monitor

Guest 03-27-2015 07:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035358)
The funny thing is you really don't get it. You don't seem to understand that the successful have learned to make money in any environment. Me and my friends have made our millions and are very comfortable, so comfortable that the party in power has very little effect on our lives.

It's the future of our children and grandchildren that's at risk if crazy liberals continue to drive this country further into debt, weaken its military and fail to enforce our borders and laws.

So cheer up, discard your victim mentality, and don't worry too much about the republican party. They decisively trounced the libs in the mid-terms, didn't they!

Excellent post.. exactly how I feel about this

The sad part is the Dem party continues the plantation where it exploits a credulous ill-educated underclass, destroys their family structure and constantly fan the flames of race hatred. There are several deranged left wing posters on this forum who are cases in point.

It's immoral plus harmful to the people they claim to care about. None are so blind ...

Guest 03-27-2015 07:46 AM

The reason this cop beating is a big deal is because it is representative of the millions of racist interactions between white cops and black citizens which make blacks fear and disrespect cops. Most are not beatings. Most are stopped while driving black, stopped by store dicks by shopping, stopped walking in the street, stopped and frisked, stopped and hassled for no apparent reason other than their pigment. They want good policing as do we all, but sadly too often what they get is bigoted policing. When I look at the kids in my high school who went into the military and the police jobs, let's say they were not members of the ACLU, weren't interesting in getting our school integrated, didn't help on Earth Day or the March on Hunger.

And contrary to your Fox views, we libtards are very concerned about black on black crime. But we see that as a problem of poverty not a problem of the victim being a victim because of his race. Still waiting the source of the murder numbers. Crickets

Guest 03-27-2015 07:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035400)
As I insinuated in an earlier post, I see no reason why he was being beat in the head like he was. But as far as the choke hold and consequent tazing, he does appear in the video to be putting up quite a fight. I will never understand why someone would resist arrest and then expect not to be roughed up in the process - I don't care whether you are black, white, or purple. That does not however justify in any way the head pounding. I do not know anything about whether the policeman planted drugs or not, but if so I find that reprehensible. Once again, I have to question if all of this is factual, why isn't it all over the media? Again, something just doesn't seem right.

Go back and watch the video again. The choke hold is BEFORE the punches in the head. Ask Eric Garner about choke holds and the risk of death and tell me you don't understand why someone would resist. I think you have been living in a complete information bubble if you in any way think this video is not "factual". And the fact that it is not all over the media, or at least the media you may be exposed to tells you something about how they filter their content. Or maybe another black man being pummeled by police is no longer news.

Guest 03-27-2015 08:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035524)
The reason this cop beating is a big deal is because it is representative of the millions of racist interactions between white cops and black citizens which make blacks fear and disrespect cops. Most are not beatings. Most are stopped while driving black, stopped by store dicks by shopping, stopped walking in the street, stopped and frisked, stopped and hassled for no apparent reason other than their pigment. They want good policing as do we all, but sadly too often what they get is bigoted policing. When I look at the kids in my high school who went into the military and the police jobs, let's say they were not members of the ACLU, weren't interesting in getting our school integrated, didn't help on Earth Day or the March on Hunger.

And contrary to your Fox views, we libtards are very concerned about black on black crime. But we see that as a problem of poverty not a problem of the victim being a victim because of his race. Still waiting the source of the murder numbers. Crickets

Excellent post and some fair points

My Two cents

- the reality of crime in terms of numbers is without a doubt black on black

- white cops killing or beating blacks is so low as to be statistically insignificant

- black on white crime is high but rarely reported on

- however given historical sensitivities any incident of white on black has impact beyond numbers

- professional race baiters will always trumpet white on black ... But NEVER say a peep about black on white or black on black

- ultimate solution is for blacks and whites to adhere and actually practice Christian principles

- if some high crime neighborhoods are overtly hostile to police, declare police free zones temporarily unless or until community invites police back in

Guest 03-27-2015 08:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035531)
Go back and watch the video again. The choke hold is BEFORE the punches in the head. Ask Eric Garner about choke holds and the risk of death and tell me you don't understand why someone would resist. I think you have been living in a complete information bubble if you in any way think this video is not "factual". And the fact that it is not all over the media, or at least the media you may be exposed to tells you something about how they filter their content. Or maybe another black man being pummeled by police is no longer news.

Okay, I'm going to try this one more time - I have stated at least twice now that I felt that the head punches were totally inappropriate, no matter what went down there. But here are my concerns - there is no audio with that video, so when he opened his door (which is always inappropriate when stopped by a policeman) and then had to be pulled out of the car, we have no idea what was said and/or going on. I did not say that the video was not factual!! BUT, the news reports to me are questionable. One implies that the man in the car had cocaine in the car and others have insinuated that the police planted it there. So what exactly are the facts?? A video with no sound can not possibly give a complete story and that is all that I was saying. It also seems very strange to me that #1) this happened in January and just coming out in the news NOW??, and #2) why is this only being reported in selected media - NBC, MSNBC - not seeing it on CBS, ABC, or any other major news outlet. You don't find that kind of strange?? No information bubble here, how about you?

Guest 03-27-2015 10:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035524)
The reason this cop beating is a big deal is because it is representative of the millions of racist interactions between white cops and black citizens which make blacks fear and disrespect cops. Most are not beatings. Most are stopped while driving black, stopped by store dicks by shopping, stopped walking in the street, stopped and frisked, stopped and hassled for no apparent reason other than their pigment. They want good policing as do we all, but sadly too often what they get is bigoted policing. When I look at the kids in my high school who went into the military and the police jobs, let's say they were not members of the ACLU, weren't interesting in getting our school integrated, didn't help on Earth Day or the March on Hunger.

And contrary to your Fox views, we libtards are very concerned about black on black crime. But we see that as a problem of poverty not a problem of the victim being a victim because of his race. Still waiting the source of the murder numbers. Crickets


Post #4 Tiger!

:popcorn:

Guest 03-27-2015 10:49 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035633)
Post #4 Tiger!

:popcorn:

I asked the Guest who posted those Very large font statistics to source them. Post #4 says they are all wrong and suggests that the email in which they are being reported is produced by bigots. So I am asking the original person who posted them to either prove them (and that the fact checker was wrong) or come back and admit they made a serious factual error which perhaps fits with their internal beliefs about murderous black savages in our country especially cities with Democratic mayors.

Guest 03-27-2015 11:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1035648)
I asked the Guest who posted those Very large font statistics to source them. Post #4 says they are all wrong and suggests that the email in which they are being reported is produced by bigots. So I am asking the original person who posted them to either prove them (and that the fact checker was wrong) or come back and admit they made a serious factual error which perhaps fits with their internal beliefs about murderous black savages in our country especially cities with Democratic mayors.

You have some serious victim-mentality issues my friend. You can formulate "some" coherent arguments, but I feel your hostility toward whites, Villagers in particular, through the keyboard. I have no desire to debate racists.


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