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Chatbrat 04-01-2015 05:35 PM

You can't fix stupid !!!! -- unrestrained kids in golf carts
 
Well, just came back from our local mail box and a golf cart puls up with a residents daughter holding 2 -2-3yr olds in her arms- when I told the grandmother this is a very unsafe thing to do-she abruptly told me to mind my own business- wish the local police would start to,remind the dangers of having infants in golf carts.

gomoho 04-01-2015 05:53 PM

Have to agree with grandma - it's none of any of our business. If that is how she and her daughter are comfortable riding in their golf cart, who are we to judge?

starflyte1 04-01-2015 06:02 PM

I have to agree with grand ma, too. When we were that child's age, some long term memories were made. And we are still here to remember.

Jayhawk 04-01-2015 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1038659)
Well, just came back from our local mail box and a golf cart puls up with a residents daughter holding 2 -2-3yr olds in her arms- when I told the grandmother this is a very unsafe thing to do-she abruptly told me to mind my own business- wish the local police would start to,remind the dangers of having infants in golf carts.

What makes you an expert that gives you the right to say that? According to a previous post of yours, you refuse to own or ride in a golf cart so clearly your opinion on carts is slanted.

As for the police you want to get involved, they wouldn't do this as no law is being violated.

Live and let live. Maybe they know what's best for their kids / grandchildren.

Ann Landers always said it best - MYOB.

Have a happy day.

Beechie 04-01-2015 06:14 PM

You can't fix stupid but you can quit meddling

joldnol 04-01-2015 06:15 PM

Chat you were 100 % correct but it's best to keep a closed mouth when watching natural selection take place....never know who is packing and they are obviously lack common sense so stay safe

Chatbrat 04-01-2015 06:23 PM

You're all right its not my kids--my wife's niece bought her son a BMW for a high school graduation present- he slammed it into the wall on a highway, suffered brain damage - his life ended 10 years ago- he has no short term memory and lives in a group home. I was a volunteer fireman & have seen my share of young lives ruined -- oh , well--its not my kids- why should I care

pmbinnj 04-01-2015 06:33 PM

Good for you. What is more important than a child's safety (or 2 children's safety)? It is inexcusable that someone would forfeit 2 children's safety for a convenient ride to pick up mail. I have never received mail that was more important than a life -- let alone 2 lives of youngsters. Absolutely Inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!

OBXNana 04-01-2015 06:39 PM

I also would have said something. I would have known it was none of my business, but know I couldn't have lived with myself had I read in the paper the next morning the child was killed in a golf cart accident.

Chatbrat 04-01-2015 06:48 PM

Ok- this week- we'll all see lots of infants being held in parents hands in golf carts--lets enlighten them

Jim 9922 04-01-2015 06:50 PM

People take risks for themselves and their families all day long. Motorcycle riding, school football, hunting in the north woods, smoking, overweight, driving after a few drinks, mountain climbing, water or snow skiing, etc, etc. I don't condone many things, but it is my right to do as I please as long as it is not in violation of the law or offensive to my fellow citizens. My philosophy, I don't care what you personally think, so please don't try to wrap me or my family in your bubble wrap. Maybe Darwin's Law takes care of stupid.

Beechie 04-01-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1038699)
Ok- this week- we'll all see lots of infants being held in parents hands in golf carts--lets enlighten them

Although I totally get the safety issues let us know how your campaign goes.

Bonnevie 04-01-2015 08:12 PM

worked with a woman once who's teenage son was riding on handlebars of a bike...fell in front of a car, brain damaged. In the blink of an eye he went from a bright, promising kid to someone who will need lifelong care....of course those parents think it will never happen to them.

dbussone 04-01-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1038744)
worked with a woman once who's teenage son was riding on handlebars of a bike...fell in front of a car, brain damaged. In the blink of an eye he went from a bright, promising kid to someone who will need lifelong care....of course those parents think it will never happen to them.


When we (I) were young we all did stupid things. Thankfully most of us learned the hard way without significant damage.

But for the grace of God there go I!

Packer Fan 04-01-2015 08:23 PM

safety, safety, safety - why don't all you nervous nellies move into your plastic bubbles and mind your own business. Maybe you should not go outside because you might get an insect bite? Yeesh. I agree mind your own business!

JoMar 04-01-2015 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1038683)
You're all right its not my kids--my wife's niece bought her son a BMW for a high school graduation present- he slammed it into the wall on a highway, suffered brain damage - his life ended 10 years ago- he has no short term memory and lives in a group home. I was a volunteer fireman & have seen my share of young lives ruined -- oh , well--its not my kids- why should I care

Agree with the sarcasm......when I grew up everyone did care, if they saw something unsafe or someone doing something that was just wrong they called it out. Because we MOOB TOTV exists. We see what we don't think is right, ignore it when it happens then jump on here and complain about it anonymously. And that's what we are teaching the next generations, don't get involved and we are succeeding.....and society continues to slide.

Beechie 04-01-2015 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1038744)
worked with a woman once who's teenage son was riding on handlebars of a bike...fell in front of a car, brain damaged. In the blink of an eye he went from a bright, promising kid to someone who will need lifelong care....of course those parents think it will never happen to them.

You are absolutely correct when you say those parents think it will never happen to them. These are the same parents that are not able to see the imminent dangers that lay ahead. The offering up of your words of wisdom is based upon the assumption that they were totally unaware of those dangers and that sudden epiphany would change their behaviour. Not so. It is more likely they will just tell you to mind your own business.

DeanFL 04-01-2015 08:42 PM

Shortly after moving to TV early last year, we witnessed something similar early on.

In the Gilchrist pool parking lot, we were waiting to back up to leave. In came a lady driving a golf cart with a 4 year old (or so) child in her lap - the kid seemed to be steering for her. They drove up to the mailstation and she did not brake soon enough and the cart went up the curb, just stopping from hitting the building. I saw her back up quickly, and did not appear hurt - just startled.

At first we said OMG - then WTF. Really wanted to go up to her and chide her, but thought better leave well enough alone. Hopefully she learned the lesson. It could have turned out so worse.

Please don't chide me - for not doing something or whatever may be. One puts themselves out there on this Forum, I simply wanted to add some personal experience.

57ChevyFI 04-01-2015 08:48 PM

Saw Grandma allowing young child-maybe 5-10 year old driving golf cart today--Grandma was sitting close...and helping with gas--not sure if she could reach the brake. By the way she was pulling on to the main road not even just "on the path". I just shook my head and prayed the child remained safe.
Kids don't know better-but Grandparents allowing kids to drive...OH I could RANT

joldnol 04-01-2015 09:10 PM

In my ideal world, people could just sign a waiver and be free to do all of the stupid things they wished and we could all mind our own business as some have chided the OP to do. Unfortunately we live in a world where people sue over their stupidity and the consequences to their actions. Get injured and no insurance? That's ok the tax payers will bail you out. Improperly use a product and get injured? Sue the manufacturer.

villagerjack 04-01-2015 09:19 PM

Myob is my motto

Richard1366 04-01-2015 09:38 PM

How would you have felt if you didn't say something and the child was seriously injured a few yards up the road. It's like people that ride bicycles or motorcycles without helmets, and when they are involved in an accident and become a vegetable, their family expects the government to take care of them. I applaud you for speaking up...

kcrazorbackfan 04-01-2015 09:47 PM

35 years ago I worked a fatality accident where a young couple and their 6 month baby was travelling from his parents home approx. 1 mile to their home. The mom decided to hold the baby in her lap instead of putting it in a car seat. About a 1/4 mile from their home, a drunk came across the centerline and crashed into them. I had received a call about the drunk so I was enroute to the area when the accident happened; I was the first person on the scene. The baby died instantly from being crushed against the dash, the parents were in critical condition. The parents couldn't get over the loss of their child and divorced 6 mos. later.

Why the story? Do say something if you see something wrong; what you say, might save a life of a child being stupidly held by an adult. Those of you chiding the OP for saying something to the adult just don't have a clue sometimes.

Indydealmaker 04-01-2015 09:59 PM

I am very disappointed in those who said the OP was meddling and should mind her own business. It is one thing when you see a full-grown adult doing stupid, dangerous stuff. It is entirely another, when those actions are endangering the life of a child.

More than ten people have died from golf cart accidents in the last few years. I believe most of those involved a lack of seat belt use, resulting in ejections from the carts.

Golf carts are on the street traveling up to as much as 30 mph along side 2-ton vehicles traveling as fast or faster. It is inconceivable that someone who knows a small child MUST be fastened into a child seat in a car on that same road, would not exercise that same care in an light, open golf car.

NotGolfer 04-01-2015 10:42 PM

Gotta say here that it isn't safe....the local sheriff's office continually put out warnings in our local paper and radio station reminding folks the laws of the road with golf-carts. Holding babies and toddlers is way dangerous...think wiggling etc. There could be many awful scenarios to this picture. IF it were your family, is it worth it?? Think about it!!! To think it can never happen to you.....tell that to other accident victims or their families.

dotti105 04-01-2015 10:44 PM

Two very different opinion presented here.

My take, like everyone else's, does not really matter. People will do as they choose.

There are no laws regarding lap children in golf carts. No laws regarding seat belts. So, I try to mind my own business. It is not always easy to do.

I am a RN and a certified Car Seat Safety Tech. I am trained to determine the best car seat for a child based on his/her age, the type of car and the budget of the parents. So it is hard for me to keep my mouth shut when I see parents, grandparents who are not restraining their kids properly in a motor vehicle.

But Golf Carts are not Motor Vehicles. There are no laws governing safe transport of kids in golf carts. Common sense must be used.

Is it always? Hell no!! But, I will not get into an argument or start lecturing regarding how to best transport a child in a golf cart. There is no basis for such a lecture or argument.

Do you honestly think voicing your opinion will make a difference? It won't.

Some people will put seat belts in their carts for their grandkids. Some will let them climb around unrestrained. Good luck in changing their minds.

It is hard enough to get parents and grandparents to use the proper Child Safety Seats in their motor vehicles. We are light years from any laws regarding golf carts.

Chatbrat 04-02-2015 05:23 AM

Golf car are motor vehicles---tell that to a man who was held on 10k bond for driving a golf cart with a revoked driver license--someone had quoted the statute awhile back confirming this-now if a golf cart is a motor vehicle- does the new child safety seat law apply ? IMHO---it should. As well as the new adult seat belt law.

graciegirl 04-02-2015 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1038699)
Ok- this week- we'll all see lots of infants being held in parents hands in golf carts--lets enlighten them


I am sure you mean well, but this old bird is going to remind you that many of our children lived even if they didn't have seatbelts keeping them in and their car seats hooked OVER the front seat next to the driver.

Many of us lived riding our bikes without helmets. Many of our children survived driving with their parents to see Mickey Mouse in the back of station wagons with just a big blanket and coloring books and crayons. (And NO air conditioning)

I am MUCH more concerned with teens driving the carts without supervision.

Thank God, that no child has been hurt in a cart in the span of time we have been here although 14 adults have been killed in the last five years in cart accidents.

I think a lot of guardian angels are overworked, but hey.

If I thought that you telling someone to stop doing something would help, I would encourage you to do that. But I am a student of human behavior, most people would just be ****ed off.

PaPaLarry 04-02-2015 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dotti105 (Post 1038823)
Two very different opinion presented here.

My take, like everyone else's, does not really matter. People will do as they choose.

There are no laws regarding lap children in golf carts. No laws regarding seat belts. So, I try to mind my own business. It is not always easy to do.

I am a RN and a certified Car Seat Safety Tech. I am trained to determine the best car seat for a child based on his/her age, the type of car and the budget of the parents. So it is hard for me to keep my mouth shut when I see parents, grandparents who are not restraining their kids properly in a motor vehicle.

But Golf Carts are not Motor Vehicles. There are no laws governing safe transport of kids in golf carts. Common sense must be used.

Is it always? Hell no!! But, I will not get into an argument or start lecturing regarding how to best transport a child in a golf cart. There is no basis for such a lecture or argument.

Do you honestly think voicing your opinion will make a difference? It won't.

Some people will put seat belts in their carts for their grandkids. Some will let them climb around unrestrained. Good luck in changing their minds.

It is hard enough to get parents and grandparents to use the proper Child Safety Seats in their motor vehicles. We are light years from any laws regarding golf carts.

Couldn't have said it any better. Hopefully, you made a few minds think!!!

karostay 04-02-2015 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beechie (Post 1038678)
You can't fix stupid but you can quit meddling

Translation
Don't remind me Im doing something STUPID

Beechie 04-02-2015 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1038862)
If I thought that you telling someone to stop doing something would help, I would encourage you to do that. But I am a student of human behavior, most people would just be ****ed off.

Right you are! I tend to save my experiences for family and friends and those uninitiated who have not as of yet reached adulthood. Even then it is more of a heads-up as opposed to any sort of chastising. When you engage with another adult to offer up your opinion be prepared to hear what you can do with your opinion.

OpusX1 04-02-2015 07:28 AM

When we see people doing stupid things that don't affect us we just say: Not My Monkey Not my circus, and go on having a great day. It's how we try to lead a stress free life.

Djembe dude 04-02-2015 07:57 AM

I agree with granny, one accident one less future villager, hang in there granny you may be helping limit the population expansion.

Beechie 04-02-2015 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpusX1 (Post 1038898)
When we see people doing stupid things that don't affect us we just say: Not My Monkey Not my circus, and go on having a great day. It's how we try to lead a stress free life.

I like it! I'm de-stressing as I type...

DonH57 04-02-2015 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpusX1 (Post 1038898)
When we see people doing stupid things that don't affect us we just say: Not My Monkey Not my circus, and go on having a great day. It's how we try to lead a stress free life.

I like that saying. Use it all the time.:laugh:

BobnBev 04-02-2015 08:38 AM

Picture this!!!!
 
I'm sitting in one of those wooden chairs in front of the radio station at Lake Sumter the other evening, just listening to the music and watching the golf carts and people go by.

Lo and behold, here comes an old fool in a golf cart going about 110mph,
and decides to make a left turn Well the dog fell out onto the pavement, the guy panicked, came to s screeching stop in the middle of the road, jumped out of his cart to get the dog. Don't know why he didn't get run over.

Oh well, just another Darwin candidate.:spoken:

Grandfinch 04-02-2015 08:57 AM

Keep in mind, what you observed as wrong, does not make it so. If that was a means of correcting dangerous things done by people, you would need to remind every villager you run into about the dangers of drinking, smoking, having unprotected sex, driving with one hand, texting while driving, eating while driving, reading while driving, golfing without sun protection, swimming without a life preserver, doing yard work without eye protection, all of which could get your butt kicked, but especially telling someone how to raise their grandchild.

sandybill2 04-02-2015 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1038948)
I'm sitting in one of those wooden chairs in front of the radio station at Lake Sumter the other evening, just listening to the music and watching the golf carts and people go by.

Lo and behold, here comes an old fool in a golf cart going about 110mph,
and decides to make a left turn Well the dog fell out onto the pavement, the guy panicked, came to s screeching stop in the middle of the road, jumped out of his cart to get the dog. Don't know why he didn't get run over.

Oh well, just another Darwin candidate.:spoken:

Saw the same incident this week----golf cart came through the Belvedere Gate---when he made turn onto Churchhill-- his dog either jumped or fell out of golf cart---landed on his side----I cringed----the dog got up---looking rather stunned---it was a fairly large stocky bulldog/pitbull type --- I still wonder if he is o.k.

looneycat 04-02-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard1366 (Post 1038797)
How would you have felt if you didn't say something and the child was seriously injured a few yards up the road. It's like people that ride bicycles or motorcycles without helmets, and when they are involved in an accident and become a vegetable, their family expects the government to take care of them. I applaud you for speaking up...

but dude, I like the feel of bugs and gravel on my head!

Madelaine Amee 04-02-2015 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard1366 (Post 1038797)
How would you have felt if you didn't say something and the child was seriously injured a few yards up the road. It's like people that ride bicycles or motorcycles without helmets, and when they are involved in an accident and become a vegetable, their family expects the government to take care of them. I applaud you for speaking up...

I cannot remember where I read or heard this regarding people riding bikes without helmets, but the saying is ....................

"well, they obviously have nothing to protect"


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