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geod 04-26-2015 07:13 AM

A/c installed in garage?
 
Has anyone had a/c installed in the garage?

jimbo2012 04-26-2015 01:32 PM

do a search for 9K mini split units

Philip Winkler 04-26-2015 02:30 PM

Call Absolute Air--they install the Mitsubishi units

Bonanza 04-27-2015 05:41 AM

I have been told that the ARC does not permit things like a window or through-the-wall A/C system and that recently have disallowed units like the Mitsubishi.

Since this is a hearsay, I would check with them (ARC) to be sure.

Chatbrat 04-27-2015 06:21 AM

you can get a free standing unit & install the vent thru the window or wall with something that looks like a dryer vent

jimbo2012 04-27-2015 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 1051705)
I have been told that the ARC does not permit things like a window or through-the-wall A/C system and that recently have disallowed units like the Mitsubishi.

Since this is a hearsay, I would check with them (ARC) to be sure.

Hearsay because they are allowed on enclosed lanai's

dirtbanker 04-27-2015 06:55 AM

I would do a 12K like this;

https://www.theacoutlet.com/MSC123E1...ing-System.htm

jimbo2012 04-27-2015 07:02 AM

That one is AC only, if I was going to do it I would get one with heat also, same cost of labor.

Since it's a heap pump there may be a state rebate or tax incentive

geod 04-28-2015 09:13 AM

Thanks for reply. Will check it out.may be hard to get installer here in tv.

jimbo2012 04-28-2015 09:22 AM

If you search Utube, it can be installed by you if you're handy, just have an electrician do the wire.

It comes pre - charged, about a 4 hour job, I call it a 2 on a scale of 1-5 as easy.

DonH57 04-28-2015 09:24 AM

There are a few mini splits on the market. Mitsubishi, Sanyo, Toshiba, and a Korean brand I can't recall right now.

llaran 04-29-2015 10:11 AM

My neighbor put a Mitsubishi in the garage a couple of years ago, when he had a room addition added. He now has 3air conditioners

DonH57 04-29-2015 10:27 AM

I used to work on them and found them to be no different than larger split systems. If they weren't sized, installed, or serviced properly to begin with they can be a future nightmare for the home owner and service people.

Mleeja 04-29-2015 01:06 PM

Here is an earlier thread on this subject. The OP want to install a split unit but was told there could be tax issues about converting the garage to a living area vs non-living area. Regardless, I think the consensuses was that the split units are allowed. I suggest doing some additional checking before investing in a unit....

Regulation code change for AC for Lanai & Garage????

villagetinker 04-29-2015 01:15 PM

As I recall, there was an advertising campaign by a local vendor that indicated there was a change in the FL state laws regarding the installation of A/C in enclosed lanais (and I would assume garage), with the requirement that these areas be class 4 or 5 (?) living space. This caused several other requirements to kick in, like additional electrical receptacles, insulation(?), etc.
So as the previous poster mentions, go to Sumter County (or Lake or Marion), and ask, then you can make an educated decision.

nyclicker 04-29-2015 02:36 PM

New rules regarding air-conditioning your lanai
 
Here are the main points:

- We must find out what type of structure is there currently and how it was previously permitted.

- Whatever was approved and permitted previously does not need to be readdressed as it would fall under the previous interpretation.

- If the space does need to be brought up to a class 4 or 5 the following aspects would need to be addressed

o Is it glass and is it properly wind rated? If it is acrylic or vinyl it must be changed to glass, if it is glass we must be able to prove the wind rating. Any old documentation is very useful.

o The space must comply with the energy code and energy calculations must be provided (Quality glass, attic insulation)

o Slab must be at least 4” above grade if the walls are block / stucco and 6” above grade if anything else.

o Slab must be waterproofed with plastic sheeting BENEATH the slab or other approved method. Steve approved a coating that I located for application on top of the concrete and under the finished flooring.

o Doors and windows must be forced entry resistant. In other words they must be rated to help prevent home invasion. If your space was previously permitted as class 3 or above you are likely already covered. Any information from the installer or manufacturer may be helpful.

o Space must comply with the National electrical code (NEC 210.52) that establishes that no point of the wall along the floor shall be more than 6' from a receptacle. This means a receptacle needs to be located within 6' from a wall opening and then no more than 12' apart after the first one. Each wall needs at least one receptacle unless is it 24” or less in width.


If you live in one of the other surrounding counties or cities the interpretation will likely be similar but it is always safer to ask the appropriate office before making any assumptions.


At this point, the best thing any owner can do who wants A/C in a sunroom is to gather up all the information regarding any work done on the sunroom and if any questions remain, talk to the building department about any prior work performed.

villagetinker 04-29-2015 02:55 PM

NYclicker,
What you posted sounds very similar to what I recall, thanks for the very concise reply. Now if one of the home inspectors chimes in this will be complete.

rubicon 04-29-2015 02:56 PM

Are people living in their garages?

Mleeja 04-29-2015 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1053251)
Are people living in their garages?

Part of the problem is if someone is using the entire garage as a hobby room, some inspector might consider this a living area...

Uberschaf 04-29-2015 03:29 PM

Water cooled units are self contained and use recycled water.Search for Liquid source heat pumps.No outside condenser.

Bonanza 05-01-2015 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1053266)
Part of the problem is if someone is using the entire garage as a hobby room, some inspector might consider this a living area...

Certain criteria has to be met before a garage could be considered "living area.
Garages, as built, do not qualify.

jimbo2012 05-01-2015 09:34 PM

correct, they are uninsulated space, without door & window requirements


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