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ditka41 05-18-2015 01:46 PM

What about "One Iron" Golf Clubs?
 
I have read recent information on "1 Iron" brand of golf clubs. Apparently all the irons in the set are the same length based on your "wrist-to-floor" measurement. I've never heard of them, or that uniform-length concept, but it's interesting. (They are advertised on Amazon.)

Any Villagers tried them?? Good results, or otherwise? Any comments from actual users would be appreciated.

Thank You!

ditka41 05-19-2015 11:07 AM

Based on a lack of response to my question, I'm thinking it's possible that no one has tried them. Their price is comparable to major brands and it seems to make some sense as one would only develop a single swing which should be better than a different swing plane for every club in the bag. ANYONE??

TheVillageChicken 05-19-2015 11:20 AM

If it were a great idea, they would be a major brand.

Mikeod 05-19-2015 12:14 PM

It's a concept that has been tried several times without retail success. Most of those used a 6 iron length for all clubs, although I think they would have to use 7 iron with the "modern" club lengths. I could see some success with it using cast technology so the CG of the head could be altered to make ball flight appropriate for each club.

But if it was really an advantage, it would be available.

ditka41 05-19-2015 06:17 PM

Thanks for the comments. You're probably correct, but I just wondered if anyone had actually tried them. May be one of those things like "if it sounds too good to be true--etc".

The Amazon site has a very lengthy explanation about them while also offering the brands we are all familiar with. The sticking point for me would be that yes, you can exchange them for a different set/length if not satisfied, but only once. After that, they are yours to keep. Guess I'll take my chances on getting a set of fitted Pings or Callaway and more lessons. Life is just too short to be stuck in the 90's.

rhood 05-20-2015 05:53 AM

Seems like all the irons the same length would allow you to have the same stance regardless of which club you used. I sometimes wish my 9 iron was as long as my 3.

Villager Audio Video 05-20-2015 08:17 AM

The problem with all the clubs being the same length is your yardage gaps will be very narrow. Many golfers only hit their 5 iron 15 yards farther than their 7 iron. Making the clubs the same length would cut that gap in half or worse.

I hit my 48 degree pitching wedge 138 yards. If it was as long as a 6 or 7 iron it would probably go 160. Not good.

There is a reason nobody does it, it's won't work. Just practice like the rest of us to improve your game. No silly clubs are going to help you improve. It's hard work that makes better player.

ditka41 05-20-2015 08:22 AM

The same stance, same ball position, same swing plane, are all advantages that "1-iron" promotes, and it does make sense for simplified and consistent ball-striking. Almost makes me suspect that the major manufacturers and teaching pros are purposely making it much more complicated than this "target" game needs to be. (and they are paying all the touring professionals so well to keep it that way.)

On the other hand, with all the money involved for winning, why wouldn't touring pros use the tools that work best for them? It's a dilemma that may never be solved. So, we just keep buying new equipment and working on at least 12 different strokes, swing planes, etc, and everybody is relatively happy, but never truly satisfied. What a game!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-20-2015 09:52 AM

As Mikeod has stated this concept has been tried in the past without much success. I can't recall the name of the company but we had a set of irons in a pro shop that I worked in in 1978. They had a display showing how all of the irons would swing exactly the same when swung like a pendulum from a pivot point that they were hanging on.

You got several problems when trying to do this. As the manufacture says, you have one stance, one posture and one swing. Everything should feel exactly the same no matter which club you are swinging. But I don't know that that's ever been proven to be an advantage.

The thing is that if all of these clubs have exactly the same length, weight and swing weight, then the only thing that changes is the loft.

Loft is only one factor in determining how far a golf will travel after being stuck by a particular club. Length of the shaft is also a factor and perhaps a more important factor than loft.

The lower the loft of a club, the more club head speed is need to get the ball airborne. The longer a shaft, the faster the head will travel with the butt end of the club moving at the same speed. But, if the head is too heavy, the player will not be able to swing the club at the same speed as the shorter clubs.

In order to compensate for various shaft lengths, club heads are made in different dead weights. The longer the club, the lighter the head. The increased length contributes to a faster club head speed so long as the head is light enough to be swung fast enough. If the head of a three iron was the same as a sand wedge, you might not be able to produce the additional club head speed that the low loft requires.

It's a nice idea to think that all of your clubs would be as easy to hit as your pitching wedge, but I can't see how that an work. I think that physics work against it.

My advice would be to get rid of all of your long irons and have a lot of hybrid clubs in your bag.

UpNorth 05-20-2015 10:13 AM

I have a single, adjustable-head club called a "Super Stick" that I take out for fun once in awhile. It is about the length of a 6 iron with a iron head that you can adjust to a whole range of loft positions (putter to lob wedge). You really have to get used to the distances, since the "9 iron" loft goes a lot farther than a traditional 9-iron, and the "driver" loft is considerably shorter. Not a practical solution, but you get to walk carrying only 1 club, and it can be fun on occasion, once you get used to it. Yes, the "Super Stick" is totally illegal for competition.

ditka41 05-21-2015 09:06 PM

I appreciate the above comments. I honestly thought that in this golf oriented place that somebody would have actually tried them, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Not having a pioneer attitude, I have decided to not be the first one. Will get properly fitted for a new set of brand name irons. Have read the comments regarding testing of irons in Golf Digest and will pick one of the sets on their "hot list" for game improvement irons. ---And spend more time at the range after the lessons. I have extra long arms and have been trying to play "standards" for several years without satisfactory progress. Thanks much for your responses.

JoMar 05-21-2015 10:12 PM

I think Treveno once said that even God couldn't hit a one iron....wonder if the owners of this business had that in mind.

bagboy 05-22-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1063600)
I think Treveno once said that even God couldn't hit a one iron....wonder if the owners of this business had that in mind.

LOL, but Jack Nicklaus could..☺

Topspinmo 05-22-2015 02:59 PM

I find the higher the number of iron the further back in my stance to get good height. For me if I hit 6 iron and 9 iron at 6 iron stance I hit the 9'iron shot lower and it goes further being it out in front which changes the loft angle. Too far out and it's bladed. IMO I couldn't get loft on 8' 9, pw it all the clubs were the same length hit at the 6 iron stance unless I made some major adjustments. I guess if you practiced enough anything could work. But, why make it more difficult than it already is?

Dana1949 08-24-2015 10:19 AM

I was lucky to find a set on consignment at at golf shop Spanish Springs 3-PW,SW and 5,7and 1 wood $200, Seems OK for me, novice golfer.

tomwed 08-24-2015 10:32 AM

When I first started teaching I was the golf coach. I had crappy clubs I bought from a pawn shop years ago and not much money. My dad bought me a custom set of Lynx clubs he got from an old, short fat guy that gave up the game. Eventually I grew into them.

ditka41 08-24-2015 11:10 AM

I wound up purchasing a full set of new Callaway XR clubs and have spent considerable time at the range as well as playing 2-3 times per week. Result is some encouraging improvement and a more positive attitude about golf. Before, I was real happy whenever I'd shoot under 100 on our championship courses. As of now, it's consistently in the low to mid-90's which I can attribute to better clubs and the added practice. A friend who is a good golfer can hit my old clubs very impressively so perhaps it's just the mental aspect. Whatever, I did not try the "One Club" brand and it doesn't sound like anyone else has either. Thank you for all the comments.

outlaw 08-24-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ditka41 (Post 1062283)
Based on a lack of response to my question, I'm thinking it's possible that no one has tried them. Their price is comparable to major brands and it seems to make some sense as one would only develop a single swing which should be better than a different swing plane for every club in the bag. ANYONE??

You don't end up with only one swing. You still have wedges and woods with different shaft lengths. You may find you lose accuracy with your 7-9 short irons with a 6 iron shaft. You may lose distance with the 3-5 irons because of the shorter shaft. I tried them several years ago; didn't see much in them performance wise, and sent them back. However, they did seem to be good quality construction.

fred53 08-24-2015 01:05 PM

Being "custom" doesn't mean a thing...
 
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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1103898)
When I first started teaching I was the golf coach. I had crappy clubs I bought from a pawn shop years ago and not much money. My dad bought me a custom set of Lynx clubs he got from an old, short fat guy that gave up the game. Eventually I grew into them.

unless they're custom made for you...no need to "grow" into clubs now-a-days...

fred53 08-24-2015 01:08 PM

Even if someone else had used them...
 
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Originally Posted by ditka41 (Post 1061855)
I have read recent information on "1 Iron" brand of golf clubs. Apparently all the irons in the set are the same length based on your "wrist-to-floor" measurement. I've never heard of them, or that uniform-length concept, but it's interesting. (They are advertised on Amazon.)

Any Villagers tried them?? Good results, or otherwise? Any comments from actual users would be appreciated.

Thank You!

and liked them would be no reason for you to buy them based on that. Clubs, brands, style fit each person and you can not relate someone else's experience with any golf equipment to what you can expect. It does not work that way...just like you can spend all you want on clubs, but if you aren't willing to put in the practice and lesson time it will take forever or never to get decent(depending on what your goals are.


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