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Guest 06-04-2015 09:41 AM

Non-Citizen voting
 
There are some communities in the USA that are allowing non-citizens of the USA to vote in local elections. We are NOT talking about illegal immigrants but non-citizens. For example, the spouse of a US citizen who is still a Canadian or Columbian. Naturally, they could not vote in State or National elections but they are allowed to vote on local issues.

Taking part in local issues makes for a more responsible community.

Guest 06-04-2015 10:15 AM

Thanx for the post. It is of benefit to be able to cite more specifically when we discuss the seemingly catch al phraseology "illegal voters".

Guest 06-04-2015 12:55 PM

You would deny my English wife the right to vote in American elections? She has a Florida driver license and is eligible to vote with that as proof of citizenship even though she is still a legal citizen of England.

Guest 06-05-2015 09:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1069917)
There are some communities in the USA that are allowing non-citizens of the USA to vote in local elections. We are NOT talking about illegal immigrants but non-citizens. For example, the spouse of a US citizen who is still a Canadian or Columbian. Naturally, they could not vote in State or National elections but they are allowed to vote on local issues.

Taking part in local issues makes for a more responsible community.

The notion of letting non-citizens vote is idiotic on its face and need not further be discussed by rational people.

Guest 06-05-2015 11:31 AM

It is very easy for a non-citizen to get a Florida driver license and register to vote at the same time. As I said, my wife who is an English citizen did that and has voted in two national elections while living in The Villages.

Guest 06-05-2015 11:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070440)
It is very easy for a non-citizen to get a Florida driver license and register to vote at the same time. As I said, my wife who is an English citizen did that and has voted in two national elections while living in The Villages.


No she shouldn't be allowed to vote. Why would she if she not citizen?

Guest 06-05-2015 11:39 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070440)
It is very easy for a non-citizen to get a Florida driver license and register to vote at the same time. As I said, my wife who is an English citizen did that and has voted in two national elections while living in The Villages.

Could you vote in Canada ?

Guest 06-05-2015 11:40 AM

I think we all know which party has the grip on illegal voters. That's why the resistance of voter ID is fought tooth and nail to steal elections at all levels.

Guest 06-05-2015 11:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070446)
No she shouldn't be allowed to vote. Why would she if she not citizen?


She does vote responsibily. I know of several Canadians who vote here using their Florida driver license and two other Brits who do the same. Most, if not all, vote Democrat. :MOJE_whot:

Guest 06-05-2015 12:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070440)
It is very easy for a non-citizen to get a Florida driver license and register to vote at the same time. As I said, my wife who is an English citizen did that and has voted in two national elections while living in The Villages.


Ok, thanks for being honest.

As a result, your wife is likely guilty of a felony and risks imprisonment and deportation. Please provide name and address so that we might refer this case to the proper legal authority.

What are the Penalties for Registering/Voting Before I'm Eligible?

Guest 06-05-2015 12:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070041)
You would deny my English wife the right to vote in American elections? She has a Florida driver license and is eligible to vote with that as proof of citizenship even though she is still a legal citizen of England.

Dear Guest: I hope you do not take this as a personal affront but the answer to your question is "Yes".

Two critical areas for a democracy to exist and thrive is to have a voting system and a news media that have not been compromised maintaining their integrity, objectivity and trustworthiness.

The mainstream media has replaced their professional ethics and responsibilities behind their political ideology. How can you rely on their reporting if they withhold facts, misinform, mischaracterize, vilify and plain out lie?

How can you say that the American people have spoken when non-americans are voting or Americans who vote more thanonce or confound expert who discover that the dead come back just to vote.

They have countries like that they are referred to as banana republics which leads me to say that we are heading down that road because progressive believe in internationalism and reject American's exceptionalism

I am sure your wife is a lovely person and would be a welcome American citizen


Personal Best Regards:

Guest 06-05-2015 01:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070449)
She does vote responsibily. I know of several Canadians who vote here using their Florida driver license and two other Brits who do the same. Most, if not all, vote Democrat. :MOJE_whot:

Thanks for the tip .. .will give the local voting officals the information to be on the lookout ...

This type of willful violation involves criminal penalties and deportation ...ie no more Villages for your Canuck friends.

However, I'm not surprised that you celebrate breaking the law when it comes to voting ... after all, you can't help it ...you're a Democrat.

Guest 06-07-2015 06:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070448)
I think we all know which party has the grip on illegal voters. That's why the resistance of voter ID is fought tooth and nail to steal elections at all levels.





No, we don't. Tell us which Party has the grip on illegal voters.

Guest 06-07-2015 06:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071399)
No, we don't. Tell us which Party has the grip on illegal voters.

You're kidding, right? The question "which party actively supports illegal voters" (or words to that effect) is rhetorical by definition ... the Democrat Party of course.

Guest 06-07-2015 07:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1070468)
Thanks for the tip .. .will give the local voting officals the information to be on the lookout ...

This type of willful violation involves criminal penalties and deportation ...ie no more Villages for your Canuck friends.

However, I'm not surprised that you celebrate breaking the law when it comes to voting ... after all, you can't help it ...you're a Democrat.


No, I am not a Democrat. I am a Socialist. Registered as a Republican ,though, so I can vote in their primaries. Go Cruz! One less vote for Rubio, Walker, or Bush. :wave:

Guest 06-07-2015 07:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071413)
No, I am not a Democrat. I am a Socialist. Registered as a Republican ,though, so I can vote in their primaries. Go Cruz! One less vote for Rubio, Walker, or Bush. :wave:


That's ok I am a republican and will vote as a Dem to vote for Bernie Sanders in order to cancel Billary and your vote.

Guest 06-07-2015 07:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071416)
That's ok I am a republican and will vote as a Dem to vote for Bernie Sanders in order to cancel Billary and your vote.

I recall the first time I voted....1960 when I was 21 (used to be you had to be 21....how terrible we were to people at that time). I voted absentee while sitting in a quonset hut serving in the military. I recall almost every election after that, and also remember how honored I was to vote...to have what I considered such a great honor to be able to do.

Times sure have changed, not only in the rules to follow or not, but the attitude we seem to have about voting.

Guest 06-07-2015 07:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071416)
That's ok I am a republican and will vote as a Dem to vote for Bernie Sanders in order to cancel Billary and your vote.


You must be a registered democrat on election day to cast your vote for Bernie Sanders. Florida has a closed primary.

Florida may not be that important in the 2016 cycle as we normally would be because of the legislature electing to go for the winner-take-all platform. The 99 electoral votes may help some candidate, but so many other states get to go ahead of Florida's primary on March 15th.

Guest 06-07-2015 07:35 PM

Non-Citizen voting
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1071419)
I recall the first time I voted....1960 when I was 21 (used to be you had to be 21....how terrible we were to people at that time). I voted absentee while sitting in a quonset hut serving in the military. I recall almost every election after that, and also remember how honored I was to vote...to have what I considered such a great honor to be able to do.



Times sure have changed, not only in the rules to follow or not, but the attitude we seem to have about voting.


My first presidential vote was McCarthy vs Nixon. As a MA resident I was and am proud to have voted against Nixon. (Don't blame me, I voted for McCarthy). I would not be proud to have voted for our current president- and did not.

Guest 06-07-2015 07:43 PM

Non-Citizen voting
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1071422)
You must be a registered democrat on election day to cast your vote for Bernie Sanders. Florida has a closed primary.



Florida may not be that important in the 2016 cycle as we normally would be because of the legislature electing to go for the winner-take-all platform. The 99 electoral votes may help some candidate, but so many other states get to go ahead of Florida's primary on March 15th.


I understand voting requirements very well. In MA, ME, TN, FL, MS, NV GA, NH, NC and a few other places.

Guest 06-07-2015 08:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071428)
I understand voting requirements very well. In MA, ME, TN, FL, MS, NV GA, NH, NC and a few other places.


My favorite election was in NV when ACORN was found guilty of voter fraud by a Democratic AG whom I proudly helped elect.

Guest 06-08-2015 09:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071441)
I understand voting requirements very well. In MA, ME, TN, FL, MS, NV GA, NH, NC and a few other places.


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Posted by Guest (Post 1071441)
My favorite election was in NV when ACORN was found guilty of voter fraud by a Democratic AG whom I proudly helped elect.

Don't you love it when people reply to their own posts?

Guest 06-08-2015 09:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071556)
Don't you love it when people reply to their own posts?

Yes I do!

Guest 06-08-2015 02:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071424)
My first presidential vote was McCarthy vs Nixon. As a MA resident I was and am proud to have voted against Nixon. (Don't blame me, I voted for McCarthy). I would not be proud to have voted for our current president- and did not.

Well, the good news is as you have gotten older, you have also gotten smarter.

Guest 06-08-2015 02:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1071413)
No, I am not a Democrat. I am a Socialist. Registered as a Republican ,though, so I can vote in their primaries. Go Cruz! One less vote for Rubio, Walker, or Bush. :wave:

Democrat ... Socialist? Six of one, and half dozen of the other.

ps have you informed your wife that voting as a non-citizen in a US federal election is a felony and subjects her to criminal prosecution? Would hate to see her get in trouble.


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