No Smoking in your own Car
 

Illinois has passed a law to prohibit smoking in your own private vehicle. Although not new (hospitals have prohibited this already) the law prohibits you smoking even while riding in your own vehicle through any public university property in the State. Coming next----while riding down the highway or on your own property?

Is this a critical hit against people's personal liberty? The governments attempt to regulate personal behavior seems to be more and more troubling IMHO.

The law only applies when minors are in the car.

Committee Approves Bill to Ban Smoking in Cars With Minors | NBC Chicago

Be interesting if this ever gets to the Supreme Court -- personal rights vs. public safety. Of course, we have seem to thrown personal rights out the window given internet and phone monitoring, airport searches, Gitmo prisoners held without have as corpus and torture and so on and so forth. I guess security wins over individual freedoms regardless of what the Constitution or laws say.

Sometimes we just can't CARE about everybody. Gitmo prisoners would be down the list for many of us.

War is HELL and has different rules.

But the subject was smoking in your own car. I think that law goes too far. And I don't smoke nor does anyone in my immediate family. I think texting is far more serious. When you are smoking you know where your mouth is and don't have to have your eyes leave the road.

However and whatever the ruling comes down as just remember what we have going for (usually against) us....

lack of and or no enforcement.

So true. Many law enforcements are becoming laughable. I was told on THIS forum a couple of years ago that older older people were more rule oriented than younger older people. OUCH!

Sorry. Bump. Back to the OP.

And the mayor of NYC wants to ban smoking in your own apt!

Gracie, did you notice this only applies when minors are in the car?

Yes I did. But I do like to stir things a bit every once in awhile.

OP should gave mentioned that from the get go.

Another law
 

This is a different law you rightly point out and I can see the difference in that you are exposing an innocent child to strong secondary smoke.

The law regarding University campuses and smoking in your own car is a separate and different law that was passed in Illinois. The only harm in this instance is to yourself.

I only smoke after sex.
(I looked)

Rarely in a car.


:pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:

I remember one time when I was a kid around 9 years old - my father was smoking a cigarette while driving the car. Somehow, he dropped the lit cigarette and it landed on the seat between his legs. While trying to grab the cigarette and trying to steer the car, he jumped a curb and took out a driveway mailbox and headlight of the car. No one got hurt - but he did not stop smoking for many more years until he developed emphysema.

People should be able to smoke, when alone in a car, Smoking when other people or children, in the car, is offensive. Whatever happened to courtesy and consideration? IMHO

Reminds me of when I was young and asked my father to put a crack in the window and he informed me that I could get out, and walk, as he refused my request.

Some new laws are going too far with certain restrictions, of personal freedom. How about people just using some common sense, when it affects others personal freedom. Sometimes, laws are passed, trying to correct something that has been sooooooo wrong in the past, and the pendulum swing tooooooooo far to the other side. IMHO

Back to not smoking in a car, with minor children!

Different Law
 

The law regarding smoking in your car with a minor is a different proposed law that is still in Committee and not yet approved or signed by the Governor.

The law I posted was the "Illinois Smoke Free Campus Act" and was signed into law by the Governor on August 17, 2014. Included in the law is a provision to allow Universities within Illinois to prohibit smoking in your private vehicle and also while traveling in your car on University property. The UI at Springfield has approved No smoking in your private car while parked on campus or while traveling on University property while in your private car.

I think this goes a bit far IMHO.

If one wants to stink up their car, burn holes in their upholstery, and lessen the resale value of their car they should be able to. The only thing that I object to is the most common way of disposing the butt is to flick it out the window. But I see your point and sorry for the misunderstanding.

If no smoking at all is allowed on campus grounds, I would expect that to include anyone driving or sitting in their car on campus. They're still on campus.

You need to reread the law. It specifically excludes privately owned vehicles travelling on campus. In other words, it is legal to smoke in your car while travelling on campus.

How are the Government(s) going to replace the lost tax revenue they earn on cigarettes.

Oh no!! I think you may have used some "hate speech."
I think a few weeks of sensitivity training is in order.
I would think 10 lashes with a wet noodle is appropriate... but someone might suggest a Chinese noodle and we're back where we started.
Well, as long as people are getting crazy...

I'm sure they will figure something out. [emoji35]

Chicken: You are correct regarding this legislation as it does exempt your car while traveling on campus. However, apparently the University has the right under Illinois law to go further as the UI Springfield campus has issued a statement printed in the local newspaper that beginning July 1, 2016 smoking will no longer be allowed in vehicles parked OR TRAVELING through the University Illinois Springfield Campus. Perhaps they have no authority to do this?

I'm not sure what the difference would be if you were parked and smoking or driving around campus and smoking. Seems we are "splitting hairs". Either way, alone in a vehicle, the only person harmed is you.

Enforcement should be interesting. Maybe smoking in your golf cart will be illegal soon?

This used to bother me when I'd ride with my (smoker) Dad as a kid, but no government intervention was needed to solve it. I'd just open the window. Just sayin ...
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bc

If they would let you....in my case, I just joined him (but only for 49 years)!!

It would appear it is apparent humanity needs others to legislate every thing about their life. After all ever law passed has always helped and has never been broken. What a utopian society.

IMO IL needs to figure out how spend below the budget they collect from they're outrageous taxes in that state beings they are on the verge of bankruptcy. That's the problems they need to to be working On instead of this smoke screen.:shrug:

:2excited: I am excited to agree with you. The State of Illinois has yet to agree on a balanced budget and they owe the retirement systems some 100 Billion dollars and each year (similar to the Federal Government) they continue to "kick the can down the road". It's disgraceful.

Government gone wild!

Isn't is strange that these same folks who really want to outlaw smoking somehow find it logical to favor legalization of pot. I think you call that the "theory of confused thinking". I'll make you all a bet.....In three years it will be illegal to display the confederate flag on a car or on your property, and smoking, ( and I don't smoke) will be illegal more places than it is permitted. Anyone want to take me up on either?

The tobacco lobby is too powerful for smoking to be made totally illegal

Cedar Rapids, Iowa...........City Fathers are considering banning smoking in parks and on golf courses.

Smiley faced fascism…. we know what is best for you. i cannot say Happy July 4th this year.

No Smoking in your own Car
 

I believe I understand. But I think it is more important than ever to support the Fourth, our celebration of Independence, and teach others what it means for us. As for me, I'll be marching in the Tavares 4th of July parade with my fellow Sons of the America Revolution.

I really don't see an issue with this; our car, our carts and our home is not smoked in now. Past, present or future. One of the nastiest habits a person can have. :grumpy:

That would be strange except for the fact the same folks who really want to outlaw smoking somehow also want to outlaw pot. Maybe you have just been running in some strange circles..:loco:

I do not know about illegality of displaying the confederate flag but certainly hope it will be totally socially unacceptable to do it.


As for smoking, it should be illegal to smoke outside your own single family home. Not in an apartment or a rented home.

I just leased a new car. I got a much better rate on it because I guaranteed I would not smoke in the car.

A lot has changed since 9-11

I am guessing most of us are done with college at our age...Is the OP pursuing a doctrine or just wants to ride around in his car on the college campus while smoking???

Hospitals and business campuses have been banning smoking on their property for years, has not hurt their business, nor any smokers...Have you seen the commercial of the guy taking a shower with the hole in his throat? Too bad he was not prevented from smoking so much...I doubt any smoker on here suggest that their grandkids should take up smoking.

As for the confederate flag; That object did not make the guy a nutjob that killed those people in the church, anymore than the Busch beer he was drinking in his facebook photos...are they talking about banning Busch beer? Plain and simple; he was a nutjob that could have taken picture of himself with the American flag and then drove a semi truck through the wall of the church and killed innocent people. Flags and guns do not purposely kill innocent people, cowards and nutjobs do! The confederate flag is a total deflection of the real problem.