Trump's Threat
 

In a recent interview with The Hill, Donald Trump said the Republican National Party has not been supportive of him. Trump suggested he might run as a third party candidate

Wouldn't this basically split the Republicans into two factions and the Democratic candidate would have a major advantage?

Isn't that how we got Clinton the first time? Compliments of Ross Perot.

Some pundits are suggesting that if Trump runs as a third party candidate and takes his supporters with him, republicans will only get about 30% of the vote.

It's hard to see what their winning strategy is when they alienate Hispanics (17% of the population), alienate African Americans (13% of the population), alienate women (53 % of the population), alienate Muslims, alienate the LGBT community, alienate young people.

There just are not enough old white people in the Party Of Old People to win an election going forward.

Isn't that how we got W the first time? Compliments of Ralph Nader.

Boy, the PARTY BEFORE ANYTHING people are out, calling people names (old white, etc.) throwing out the generalities.....Trump said and make that THEY said.

You folks should be on here telling all why they should vote for your candidate...the OLD WHITE RICH woman, or the communist, or the guy who apologized for saying that ALL people matter.

But certain people feel this is how to do it. I am surely not a Trump supporter but if he has you PARTY BEFORE ALL out demonizing him already, must be a bit of fear. Again, pay attention to the rich, old white woman, the commie or the guy who actually apologized to the black demonstrators for caring about white people.

Take one

You are nothing but a name calling nasty disrespectful COWARD.

In addition it is obvious you suffer from serious something or other.

We know you don't care.

Do you carry an over sized key board when you go out in public to hide behind as well?

Let's see, if I read post 2 correctly, the childish game of word play was chosen by your lite band of merry men and woman, and not me.

Discuss seriously, and you get serious responses. Begin the flaming....

Oh, and thanks for your concern, but doing pretty good myself. And if anyone cares, it is me, so discuss without the flaming and all is good.

Good one...

I do not believe Republicans have alienated blacks. The democrats have simply done a better job of convincing them to vote democratic. What is inexplicable is that this behavior goes against their own best interests in many cases. Thomas Sowell, a black, does an excellent job of explaining this.

I like Trump, can't wait for the debates.

Here is the deal.

The democratic party NEEDS to have all Republicans under this one umbrella.

They need to paint, as you see so much on TOTV, ALL Republicans as OLD, RICH, RACIST, BIGOTED. It is imperative to their message.

It began in 2008, and that you can look back and see. It is the picture they must paint of ALL Republicans.

Now the Republicans are not much better. They want to paint all Democrats as free spending. and a hero to the little guy and enemy of the rich. That does not work either because as a party it is just not true.

Both parties have people who believe in many similar things.

What I see as the party differences is simple. The RULE OF LAW. Republicans want to hold on to that and the Democrats do not. For me, I see it as that simple. Go down the list of issues facing us and you can see that permeates through all of them.

How can anyone justify that Republicans haven't aliened blacks? Take a look at all the states that have issued tougher voter ID laws? They are almost all controlled by Republican governors, and houses. There is not a lot for fraud going on in these states. The laws are aimed directly at blacks. The house leader in Penn. came out and said the new voter id laws just gave Penn. to Romney. His own words were used against him to delay or stop the Penn. voter id laws.

I will go look for Robert Sowell article. I sure you know what blacks call him.

Concerning Trump, if his poll numbers take a real dip, any sane person wouldn't think of running for president. The key word there is sane. He can always justify in his own mind that the national Republican leaders not only didn't support him, but turned against him. If you have noticed, the man thinks that he can do no wrong. He is under some strange impression that presidents can do whatever they please, and are answerable to no one but himself. In our current state of divided government, the last thing that we need is a supreme leader.

The democrats didn't paint this picture of republicans. Republicans painted it of themselves with policies too numerous to mention against every minority and women.

One only has to look at the results of the 2012 election when republicans lost 95% of the black vote, 75% of the Hispanic vote, and 60% of the women's vote. Until they change their policies, it will be impossible to win a national election.

It sounds as though Trump wants people to believe he, as President, will be able to act as though he was on Celebrity Apprentice and tell anyone in government (Congressman, judge, or employee) "You're Fired".

Sorry, Donald, it doesn't work like that!

I sure see the same situation in an entirely different light and I think your position is racist.

Any law on voter ID is for WHITE AND BLACK....not just black as some try to make it appear. This is 2015, not the 40's or even the 60's or 80's. Recognizing that there is attempted fraud, and unknown figures on actual fraud, and that the country is over loaded with illegal immigrants, it stands to reason to have tough laws to administer our right to vote. It is not racist unless you want it to be it seems to me.

You need id for cigarettes...you need id for so many things today that it is reasonable to ask for an id to vote.

You can twist it anyway you want.....make it any thing you want and that is the problem. That twisting to once again apply a label.

I REALLY believe that your position and that of most democrats is the VERY racist position and I think they insult black people with this kind of dialogue.

I might add on this subject, I detest the charge of racism especially when voiced in politics. It is terrible and in most cases used not in the proper context.

The Democratic Party was founded on racism, but they never mention that and thankfully neither do the Republicans.

I recall as current as 1954 when Brown was decided the Democratic governors were the ones who refused to open the schools. Republicans fought hard for that.

Today....While Republicans support school choice policies, which promote vouchers and charter schools, enabling kids to escape education prisons, Democrats oppose these policies and support teachers unions instead.

Even the recent comments by Harry Reid concerning the President, or Joe Biden about the President are indicative of TRUE feelings coming to the fore.

If anyone wants there are a number of quotes, etc to support all of this.

The charge of racism by the Democratic party is a sham and they do a serious injustice to the blacks of this country. The current leaders of civil rights (Sharpton, etc) are a total disgrace and MLK would be loathe to even stand beside them and his widow and family has said so on a number of instances.

NO, all that is happening is that the Democratic party has played this role and done a great job at it, but it is a POLITICAL CHARGE with no merit whatsoever.

By the way, my favorite of the quotes by Democrats is Joe Biden.....speaking of our President.....

"“I mean you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice-looking guy.”

Now we have read on TOTV about Hillary Clintons infamous statements on that Snopes site that called all the charges 1/2 true. 1/2 of those quotes are terrible.

These are people who the Democrats speak of as President of our country who use this language.

Another guy, O'Malley, apologized to the black protesters for saying that ALL lives matter. As far as I am concerned that is insulting to blacks mostly as most blacks do not believe that only black lives matter.

I hated when the media referred to Obama as the black president.

A few more notes for those holier than thou progressives about racism....

"The Democratic Party has been stellar at spinning a revisionist history where the righteous among their ranks fought “tirelessly” to further the cause of Civil Rights, women’s rights – indeed human rights – throughout time immemorial.

In fairness, progressives have had one lynchpin to their argument: Then-President Lyndon B. Johnson did sign into law the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The fact that the crux of the bill was drafted and pushed through Congress by Republican Senator Everett Dirksen, and the fact that LBJ staunchly opposed the passing of Civil Rights legislation in the decades leading up to his presidency, bears little relevance on the left’s present-day narrative."

Now I think that most of the Villagers who are professing progressive ideas were alive at this time....they MUST know this, don't they ? The Democrats have just been good at managing the black vote.

Oh, I mentioned a few difficult racist comments made by Democrats over the years...this is a classic by Lyndon Johnson...in discussions before the civil rights bill......

"“Get ready to take up the Goddamned nigra bill again,”

That quote has stuck with me over the years. All the while being called a racist by his party !!!

Why Did the Black Community Leave the GOP for the Democratic Party? | TheBlaze.com

The Democrats have done a good job in managing this group, and in order to keep the votes they have had to push further left away from the LAW.

You may call it whatever you really want - but the GOP is not the party of choice for most AfricanAmericans. There are some like Sowell or Malkin who are Republican but most are not and will vote Democratic.

You do not have to say Progressive or Socialist but just call all of us Liberal and you also may call us The People's Choice.

Oh, I hope Trump runs independently. It would be a runaway victory for The People's Choice!!

I am being blocked by the administrator.

I agree with you..how is that ????

I realize that WINNING is everything no doubt. There were some accusations made on here that have been responded to and you offered NOTHING on them but I agree with you, The Republicans are not going to win the African American vote...they are not even trying, which is a good thing. Winning elections based on issues and not the color of skin is a good thing to me.

I did not mean to call you any names......those are names used by folks on TOTV and in the media....labels suck.

Now, if you feel Hillary Clinton is the Peoples choice as you call her, lets hear why ? And you are also right, if all continues as it is, the Democrats will run away with the election if Trump is indepdendt but the race is over a year away and by the way, Hillary has not secured the nomination as much as everybody is trying to give it to her.

I, frankly am happy that one party is not TRYING to make your skin color something that gets votes. I prefer...using one thing only in that area...THE LAW.....that is what we should stand on and not the color of your skin EVER.

I, just me, want nobody elected because they appealed to someones skin color. I believe we should make laws for everyone.

Now that I have agreed with you on some points, maybe we can call off the dogs on the generalizations about all Republicans being old white racists. We know by facts that is not true but I guess it makes you folks happy. LETS TEAR DOWN THOSE STATUES AT ARKANSAS U. LETS TAKE THE MEDALS BACK THAT CLINTON GAVE OUT. Of course I am being sarcastic....problem is the movement is that kind of rhetoric.

RACE should never be a basis for soliciting votes and doing that, to me is what racism is.

One quote that Lyndon Johnson also said about the 1964 Civil Rights law, "We just lost the south for the next 40 years." I get the unmistakable impression that Democrat's position on any matter can't change over time. Which is total nonsense. The Republicans keep trying to tie Hillary, or Obama to their college days.

The Democrat party was founded on racism. Who cares what happened over a hundred years ago? Lincoln was a Republican. When he was elected president, the South seceded. Now the South is firmly Republican. So, the Republicans are never tied into their past, but the Democrats can never escape their past unless, of course, they change their party affiliation.

You need an ID to buy cigarettes, but you can walk to the corner store to buy cigarettes. If you look over 21, they probably won't asked you for an id. Is someone here going to deny many blacks don't live in the inner city, and don't own a car? Drivers license is the one of the id most used on the voting day.

The voter ids laws don't target blacks. Fine. Then, someone please explain the quote that the Penn. house leader made about the id law giving Penn. to Romney. I didn't see anyone address that at all. While we are at it explain the house make up in 2012 in Penn. The state went to President Obama; therefore, he won the popular vote. The House make up was nine Republicans, and three Democrats. The logical conclusion is the President Obama overwhelming won the black vote in the cities. The Penn. house knew this was a going to happen. So, they tried to make it hard as possible for blacks to get a suitable id for voting purposes. Thereby, giving the state to Romney.

I think when you call Democrats and myself racist, you should take a good look in the mirror, and you will see a real racist. Al Sharpton is the worse spokesmen for the blacks. He is the king of bigots. I can't believe MSNBC has given him a program on their station.

You laugh, when Democrats make fun of President Obama, but everything Republicans have called him is perfectly fine. President Obama doesn't like whites (goodbye Glenn Beck). Trump spends money to check his birth certificate. How many birthers are still out there? Obama is a Communist, Kenyan, Muslim, socialist, dictator wannabe, liar, liar, liar, liar, and arrogant fool. Oh, did I mention that he is a liar.

For the life of me, I can't believe people here dismiss the targeting of inner city blacks so easily. Then, call people that bring it up racists. One more time, people here are driving down a lovely one way street with blinders on.

The post above was the one that was initially blocked. Maybe somebody was trying to tell me something. The tax id laws are not targeting blacks. I can accept that. They are targeting voters that vote Democrat in large numbers. So, the Constitution that the Republicans hold near and dear to their hearts is subject to interpretation. One man one vote doesn't apply, if it means they have little to no chance in winning election by the rules.

You misunderstand all the posts that you are replying to.

All of the history of the Democratic party, etc is IN RESPONSE to the entire Republican party being called racist over and over.

The hypocrisy of that name calling is the motive for the posts, nothing else.

If you re-read my post, I did not say that Hillary Clinton was The People's Choice. I stated that Trump would split the votes in the Republican Party so that a win would be guaranteed for the Democratic candidate.
As far as "old white racists", I haven't used phrases like that in over a month - just as I stated on the other site. I have seen them posted but it is not me.

The GOP has not done a good job of being inclusive of minority people and this has turned many away. If the GOP knows they have to have more minority voters, be more inclusive in drawing them in.

Ah yes, the liberal racist who enjoys playing his golf game in sand traps strikes again ... pathetic, mean-spirited and genuinely disgusting as ever. But hey, when you look up and still see the gutter, we know where you're coming from ... best regards :)

"Over a month" ? How proud you must be.

I misunderstood "all" the posts that I was referring to. "All" is an absolute. So, I am not a racist as someone was quick to point out. I am a moron. Now, that is precious. lol

The tax id laws are for both BLACKS AND WHITES. If that is the case, why didn't anyone answer my question about Penn. id laws, that were delayed or reversed by a judge? What! The Penn. House leader was only joking, when he said that they just gave Penn. to Romney. Guilt by Silence. You couldn't answer the question, because there was only one answer to the question, inner city blacks were the target of Penn. new id law. Period the end.

So, I misunderstood the statements about Al Sharpton; therefore, my statements about Al are misguided. Republicans do actually like Al. Well, they have a really funny way of showing it. "All" the posts. Seriously.

"All" of the history of the Democrat party is they call Republicans racist. Someone was quick to point out the Democrat party was started by Southern racists. If that was the case, all Republicans should have flocked to the Democrats from day one. Two peas in a pod.

No! The motive of the posts was to ignore reality. Never ever, listen to someone of the other party, because it is a sign of weakness. The new voter id laws are directed against blacks. You can't argue otherwise. Unless! Maybe just maybe someone should have thrown out there that the new tax id laws were directed against people that have a history for not voting for them. It is a lot easier to stop them from voting than it is to address their needs. Stopping voter fraud was the selling point to convince themselves, and their followers that they were doing the right thing with the new voter id laws. That is not too hard to understand.

Stopping voter fraud had not been a big issue in the past few decades until a black man ran for president. These voter ID laws put in place by various states certainly backfired big time against them as Barack Obama won two back-to-back landslide victories. Nothing drives voters to the polls more than being told that they are not welcome.

How are republicans going to keep women from voting in the 2016 election? Will they try to repeal the 19th amendment?

Ah yes the claims of success.....post game that is.

A bunch of people running around shooting arrows into a wall....runnung up and painting a bulls eye around the arrow....then puffing up and claiming to be the most accurate shooters in the game.......

Such a joke....that too many accept.....

I do agree with your post. One small point, it was President Obama run for reelection that brought out the voter fraud nonsense. In 2013, the Supreme Court struck down pre-election clearance for changes in voter law changes in 9 states. Five of these states almost immediately went for the voter id change. The Supreme Court said the federal government could challenge vote id changes in any state in court, which they are doing.

How are they to stop women from voting in 2016? Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! Trey Gowdy's prosecution oops! "fair and balance" hearings into Benghazi is designed to stop Hillary from receiving the Democrat nomination. If she is not there, they don't have to worry about stopping women from voting. We all know that women are so stupid that they won't vote based upon issues. They vote based on gender. I going to pay from that wise crack.

Wasn't Trey Gowdy's prosecution delayed two or three months so the Republican dominated members of the hearing could gather all the facts before starting? It started just in time to try to effect the 2014 election. Surprise! Surprise! The prosecution intends to bring Hillary before them to answer questions. They are just going to wait until they have all their facts straight before calling her. That should be about September, 2016. Nice quick "fair and balanced" prosecution. Nothing will be leaked to the press to make Hillary bad. That is so un-American.

You are wrong about the arrows. When qualifying with a 45 hand gun in the National Guard, you had to qualify from 25 yards. If you hit the target from 25 yards, they call you Alvin York. When you went up to the target, you poked holes in it with the scorers pencil. Everybody qualified. It wasn't like we were ever going to use a 45. Cheating was a way of life that continues to this day. The National Guard was an equal opportunity employer. It accepted people from both parties, back in the day when getting along with each other was a crime.

Methinks you totally missed the point of the post.
And what prompted the subject matter in the one above???

I know what the point of everything the Republicans posting here have. Everything that a Democrat or Independent has to say isn't worth a damn. Anything that they know is right will never come up in their post. Always deflect. Always call the opponent a name to try to get him/her off their point. When you know are wrong, stop posting on the thread. Did I miss anything?

I am getting the feeling that the only ones with a brain on this board, are one liners that call people names, or use cute name in referring to the opposite party.

I know. They should refer to him as the black Muslim president

[QUOTE=Guest;1091468]I know. They should refer to him as the black Muslim president[/QUOTE

Just an inflammatory attempt by a troll to get an anti Tea Party smart alec comment. We can see right through you.

Even the pundits on Fox were trying to figure out to consequences if Trump ran independent of the Republican party. They seemed to think it would be a shoe in for the Democratic candidate.

Is Trump that vain? There is no way the GOP will have him as their President candidate and no way would he accept the VP slot on the ticket.

What is going to happen?

As someone who posted quite a bit on the old political forum and this new GUEST format forum, I honestly believe it is time to shut this down.

The HATE here is palpable and the posts have lost all reason.

I have strong opinions, but have tried not to call anyone vicious names, except in an effort to shut down their hate. AND THAT WAS WRONG TO DO.

Way back, a sharing of thoughts took place. No longer.

I believe it should be closed down. I certainly will GUARANTEE this time, I am done.

Some are coming on here to simply spread hate, and that is just scary.

To the Admin...thanks for the effort. Good luck to all, and to those who think this is false, I can only say...goodbye and good luck.

My wish for everybody is that they read a lot ON BOTH SIDES, and not just one, and that we all brush up on our comprehension skills. I also hope freedom for those, on both sides of the aisle, who are so party oriented it has trapped them and disallowed growth outside what a few wish you to think

I have been on here since 2007, and actually will miss it, but there is enough hate in the world without being exposed to more on a local forum with neighbors.

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