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TheVillageChicken 08-03-2015 03:59 PM

Somebody ponied up some money for the trees
 
Handled through an attorney

Someone wrote a check to pay for the trees

Chi-Town 08-03-2015 04:03 PM

Great. A chapter closed.

janmcn 08-03-2015 04:06 PM

District Receives $25,000 Check To Pay For Trees
 
A check for over $25,000 showed up today at the district offices to pay for the replanting of trees. It was presented through an attorney who said he represented the "Friends of Lake Miona".

Read all about it at the on-line news.

Challenger 08-03-2015 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1095351)
Handled through an attorney

Someone wrote a check to pay for the trees

Hmmmm- Total costs suffered by districts= +or- $100,000

Reimbursement from "someone" $25,000.

Apparantely someone has a smidgen of remorse or wants us to shut up.

Villager Joyce 08-03-2015 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1095353)
Great. A chapter closed.

If only!! AND Another thread has already been started.

2BNTV 08-03-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1095359)
Hmmmm- Total costs suffered by districts= +or- $100,000

Reimbursement from "someone" $25,000.

Apparantly someone has a smidgen of remorse or wants us to shut up.

And or, did not want to be prosecuted for the crime committed.

Speculating - "they got tired wondering if the law, was going to find out".

joldnol 08-03-2015 06:28 PM

Illegally cut down trees to improve both view and home value and escape criminal charges, 25k is pretty cheap for that person.

Polar Bear 08-03-2015 06:40 PM

Finally there will be no more posts related to the trees being cut down!! :1rotfl:

manaboutown 08-03-2015 06:49 PM

The malfeasor(s) are getting off with a deal that is (another) steal! Looks like they took an offer they could not refuse.

Cedwards38 08-03-2015 06:51 PM

So this "donation" was from the Friends of Lake Miona and not from any guilty party? Is the FOLM an organized, incorporated group with more than one objective, and where do they get their funds? Bless them for their generous spirit, but this crime has not been solved, and should be.

CWGUY 08-03-2015 07:01 PM

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer! :ohdear:

Bogie Shooter 08-03-2015 07:02 PM

And the beat goes on.
Why not just copy and paste your posts from the other thread?

Chi-Town 08-03-2015 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 1095441)
So this "donation" was from the Friends of Lake Miona and not from any guilty party? Is the FOLM an organized, incorporated group with more than one objective, and where do they get their funds? Bless them for their generous spirit, but this crime has not been solved, and should be.

Could be a PAC of some sort. Or maybe a Knights Templar type of group.

joldnol 08-03-2015 07:22 PM

if someone doesn't want to read others opinions, you always have the option of NOT reading them by not clicking on the thread but that would make it difficult to troll

CWGUY 08-03-2015 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 1095441)
So this "donation" was from the Friends of Lake Miona and not from any guilty party? Is the FOLM an organized, incorporated group with more than one objective, and where do they get their funds? Bless them for their generous spirit, but this crime has not been solved, and should be.



CDD 5 voted unanimously to waive prosecution if the money is received. :boom:

CWGUY 08-03-2015 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1095359)
Hmmmm- Total costs suffered by districts= +or- $100,000

Reimbursement from "someone" $25,000.

Apparantely someone has a smidgen of remorse or wants us to shut up.

In July’s CDD 5 meeting, the “ballpark” cost of remediation thus far was estimated to be about $25,000. :boom:

Challenger 08-03-2015 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1095471)
In July’s CDD 5 meeting, the “ballpark” cost of remediation thus far was estimated to be about $25,000. :boom:

WHAT about the fine? What about replanting? What about the 5+/- years of monitoring, estimated on another thread to be $2500 per year for about 4 or 5 years. What are the funds meant to remediate?

The offer by CDD 5 is ambiguous and poorly defined. Why does CDD 5 get to speak for several other CDDs who are also on the hook for a proportionate share of these costs.

It looks to me that the kitchen is heating up. Someone has blinked. Maybe more than one.

Mleeja 08-03-2015 08:07 PM

By gosh, we are not giving this up until we get our pound of flesh........

CWGUY 08-03-2015 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1095482)
By gosh, we are not giving this up until we get our pound of flesh........

IMHO. Some want to hang someone..... but they don't have a tree. :ohdear:

Mleeja 08-03-2015 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1095484)
IMHO. Some want to hang someone..... but they don't have a tree. :ohdear:

Very good! :bigbow:

Allegiance 08-03-2015 08:59 PM

Don't forget they also have to pay their lawyer who no doubt has run up a lot of billable hours for research etc.

Walt. 08-03-2015 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1095481)
WHAT about the fine? What about replanting? What about the 5+/- years of monitoring, estimated on another thread to be $2500 per year for about 4 or 5 years. What are the funds meant to remediate?

Just wondering. Why would anyone need to spend $2,500 per year to "monitor" a few growing trees for 5+ years? Sounds like a government project.

handyman 08-03-2015 11:26 PM

Their lawyers' billables hours are not my problem,if they have done an illegal deed,they should pay the whole bill and then answer for their misdeeds,what they did was illegal .Jail time is what the lady
on the square got,what makes this person above the law?

Barefoot 08-03-2015 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1095445)
And the beat goes on.
Why not just copy and paste your posts from the other thread?

You're funny BS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1095484)
IMHO. Some want to hang someone..... but they don't have a tree.

Clever. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

outlaw 08-04-2015 06:15 AM

What happened to "it's not about the money, it's about justice blah, blah, blah"? Would running the perps through the town squares after being tarred and feathered suffice?

Cedwards38 08-04-2015 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095567)
What happened to "it's not about the money, it's about justice blah, blah, blah"? Would running the perps through the town squares after being tarred and feathered suffice?

We got some money, but we don't have justice. We don't need to tar and feather. How about we just publicly charge these persons in a court of law and subject them to the legally prescribed penalties for the crime they committed, like we do with other persons in society who commit crimes? Clearly there is another standard of justice if you have the money to influence it.

outlaw 08-04-2015 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 1095585)
We got some money, but we don't have justice. We don't need to tar and feather. How about we just publicly charge these persons in a court of law and subject them to the legally prescribed penalties for the crime they committed, like we do with other persons in society who commit crimes? Clearly there is another standard of justice if you have the money to influence it.

Look at it as a form of plea bargaining. The state attorney agreed to not prosecute if the perps ponied up the costs to rectify the damage caused. It happens every day in our judicial system.

CWGUY 08-04-2015 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 1095585)
We got some money, but we don't have justice. We don't need to tar and feather. How about we just publicly charge these persons in a court of law and subject them to the legally prescribed penalties for the crime they committed, like we do with other persons in society who commit crimes? Clearly there is another standard of justice if you have the money to influence it.

Do you remember your post (#83 in another thread) - "Apparently the amnesty offer has not caused the perpetrators to come forward, and why should it! Though I applaud the offer of prosecution amnesty, why should they come forward since it seems we are no closer to solving this crime than we've ever been?"

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Advogado 08-04-2015 07:42 AM

I have always thought it likely that the perpetrator(s) were reading, and perhaps participating in, the other thread on this subject. Thus, I am a little suspicious of the posts advocating closing the matter. Bank robbers and other felons (and the tree cutting is a felony) do not get investigations closed by anonymously returning the loot.

manaboutown 08-04-2015 07:48 AM

It seems to me the perp(s) should have been required to make restitution for ALL costs involved as well as make a public apology to avoid doing time for their crime. Their continuing anonymity appears to be quite cowardly IMHO.

outlaw 08-04-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1095619)
I have always thought it likely that the perpetrator(s) were reading, and perhaps participating in, the other thread on this subject. Thus, I am a little suspicious of the posts advocating closing the matter. Bank robbers and other felons (and the tree cutting is a felony) do not get investigations closed by anonymously returning the loot.

Except in this case I believe that was the deal offered by the authorities.

manaboutown 08-04-2015 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095625)
Except in this case I believe that was the deal offered by the authorities.

But how did the authorities come up with this deal? Who was behind the offer? What pressures were brought and by whom to offer such a weak deal?

Cedwards38 08-04-2015 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1095595)
Do you remember your post (#83 in another thread) - "Apparently the amnesty offer has not caused the perpetrators to come forward, and why should it! Though I applaud the offer of prosecution amnesty, why should they come forward since it seems we are no closer to solving this crime than we've ever been?"

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Sure do. Who came forward?

TVMayor 08-04-2015 08:14 AM

This tree thing reminds me of another mystery in TV. The question, “who put up the wall” on the historical side was never answered along with why.

Advogado 08-04-2015 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095625)
Except in this case I believe that was the deal offered by the authorities.

According to published reports, it was a deal proposed by 1 CDD board, and I would doubt if the board has that authority. I have never heard of anything like it before. A felon does not get off, elsewhere, by merely returning, anonymously, the loot. Only in The Villages, I guess.

CWGUY 08-04-2015 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 1095643)
This tree thing reminds me of another mystery in TV. The question, “who put up the wall” on the historical side was never answered along with why.

:ohdear: Surely you can find a fresher scab than that to pick.

outlaw 08-04-2015 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1095645)
According to published reports, it was a deal proposed by 1 CDD board, and I would doubt if the board has that authority. I have never heard of anything like it before. A felon does not get off, elsewhere, by merely returning, anonymously, the loot. Only in The Villages, I guess.

I read that this was cleared through the state attorney's office or the appropriate FL authorities.

Advogado 08-04-2015 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095652)
I read that this was cleared through the state attorney's office or the appropriate FL authorities.

If true, it would still be bizarre.

Bogie Shooter 08-04-2015 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1095595)
Do you remember your post (#83 in another thread) - "Apparently the amnesty offer has not caused the perpetrators to come forward, and why should it! Though I applaud the offer of prosecution amnesty, why should they come forward since it seems we are no closer to solving this crime than we've ever been?"

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Are you saying there are other posts?:ho:

Advogado 08-04-2015 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1095589)
Look at it as a form of plea bargaining. The state attorney agreed to not prosecute if the perps ponied up the costs to rectify the damage caused. It happens every day in our judicial system.

Deals to drop felony charges in exchange for anonymous restitution do not happen every day in our judicial system. In any event, I guess it's too bad for the perps that the Friends of Lake Miona, instead of the perps, ponied up the money.


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