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Guest 09-04-2015 07:12 AM

Doing away with gender designation on school bathrooms???
 
And where else would such a BS action be given the time of day? San Francisco of course.

San Francisco's Miraloma Elementary school makes bathrooms gender neutral | Daily Mail Online

The school is literally blowing past the rights of the very vast majority of the school population to address the non-normal 8 students!!!!

Where are the parents of the normal kids?
Why is it administrators feel they have the power to appease the special interest groups and ignore the majority.

If they had to address it at all, they could have had a 3rd category and not eliminate the existing facilities. They could have put porta potties outside for those who do not like the ones in the school.
Boys and girls in the same toilet space at the same time.....where have the brains gone?

The idiot commentary that it makes it more like home is just more media enhanced BS! How many, at home have the boys and girls in the bathroom at the same time???

Even though it is is wack, CA it is disgusting that the majority ALLOWS losing another one! No spine! No convictions! No balls! No morals! Nobody cares anymore!

Guest 09-04-2015 07:36 AM

Yes, it does seem strange until you realize a few things. Go to the Miraloma school website and read all about it. It is a small private school. Boys and girls will not be in the bathrooms at the same time. They are single toilet bathrooms.

So, at a private school, the parents can opt out by havings their kids go to another school.

Even IF they were not single person bathrooms, they would have separate stalls. Nothing to see.

Guest 09-04-2015 09:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108719)
Yes, it does seem strange until you realize a few things. Go to the Miraloma school website and read all about it. It is a small private school. Boys and girls will not be in the bathrooms at the same time. They are single toilet bathrooms.

So, at a private school, the parents can opt out by havings their kids go to another school.

Even IF they were not single person bathrooms, they would have separate stalls. Nothing to see.

Seeing something would be one of the least issues!

Guest 09-04-2015 09:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108698)
And where else would such a BS action be given the time of day? San Francisco of course.

San Francisco's Miraloma Elementary school makes bathrooms gender neutral* | Daily Mail Online

The school is literally blowing past the rights of the very vast majority of the school population to address the non-normal 8 students!!!!

Where are the parents of the normal kids?
Why is it administrators feel they have the power to appease the special interest groups and ignore the majority.

If they had to address it at all, they could have had a 3rd category and not eliminate the existing facilities. They could have put porta potties outside for those who do not like the ones in the school.
Boys and girls in the same toilet space at the same time.....where have the brains gone?

The idiot commentary that it makes it more like home is just more media enhanced BS! How many, at home have the boys and girls in the bathroom at the same time???

Even though it is is wack, CA it is disgusting that the majority ALLOWS losing another one! No spine! No convictions! No balls! No morals! Nobody cares anymore!

American continues its descent into a liberal lunacy "paradise" ... at some point, a social counterrevolution is inevitable.

Guest 09-04-2015 10:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108765)
American continues its descent into a liberal lunacy "paradise" ... at some point, a social counterrevolution is inevitable.

:agree:

Guest 09-04-2015 10:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108698)
And where else would such a BS action be given the time of day? San Francisco of course.

San Francisco's Miraloma Elementary school makes bathrooms gender neutral* | Daily Mail Online

The school is literally blowing past the rights of the very vast majority of the school population to address the non-normal 8 students!!!!

Where are the parents of the normal kids?
Why is it administrators feel they have the power to appease the special interest groups and ignore the majority.

If they had to address it at all, they could have had a 3rd category and not eliminate the existing facilities. They could have put porta potties outside for those who do not like the ones in the school.
Boys and girls in the same toilet space at the same time.....where have the brains gone?

The idiot commentary that it makes it more like home is just more media enhanced BS! How many, at home have the boys and girls in the bathroom at the same time???

Even though it is is wack, CA it is disgusting that the majority ALLOWS losing another one! No spine! No convictions! No balls! No morals! Nobody cares anymore!

NO big deal. It doesn't matter much when all you have in California is females and she-males. :1rotfl:

Guest 09-04-2015 11:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108805)
NO big deal. It doesn't matter much when all you have in California is females and she-males. :1rotfl:


Good one!

Guest 09-04-2015 11:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108755)
Seeing something would be one of the least issues!

Well then, what would be the issues? Remember, this is a 200 pupil private school. The gender neutral bathroom is a single toilet bathroom and is used by only one student at a time. Just like the gender neutral bathrooms on the golf courses in The Villages.

Guest 09-04-2015 11:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108820)
Well then, what would be the issues? Remember, this is a 200 pupil private school. The gender neutral bathroom is a single toilet bathroom and is used by only one student at a time. Just like the gender neutral bathrooms on the golf courses in The Villages.

A little different here. If you've seen one gray hair, you've seen them all.....:icon_wink:

Guest 09-04-2015 11:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108719)
Yes, it does seem strange until you realize a few things. Go to the Miraloma school website and read all about it. It is a small private school. Boys and girls will not be in the bathrooms at the same time. They are single toilet bathrooms.

So, at a private school, the parents can opt out by havings their kids go to another school.

Even IF they were not single person bathrooms, they would have separate stalls. Nothing to see.

Wrong, as usual. In the other cases, such as the guy who thinks he's a girl, and who hasn't quite yet bothered to get his male equipment removed, he wanted to shower in the girls locker room where there would be eyefuls to see ...

Hmmm .... maybe this kid isn't really gay but simply crafty? A high school boy's wet dream .... showering with the cheer leaders?

Guest 09-04-2015 12:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108849)
Wrong, as usual. In the other cases, such as the guy who thinks he's a girl, and who hasn't quite yet bothered to get his male equipment removed, he wanted to shower in the girls locker room where there would be eyefuls to see ...

Hmmm .... maybe this kid isn't really gay but simply crafty? A high school boy's wet dream .... showering with the cheer leaders?

Once again, you FAILED to read the information given. This is ONE small private ELEMENTARY school. It has single toilet bathrooms. One student at a time uses the bathroom.

Go to the Miraloma School website and read what the school says about their gender neutral bathrooms.

How is it different than the gender neutral bathrooms on our golf courses?

Guest 09-04-2015 12:47 PM

First time I went to school in the USA, I followed a little boy to the bathroom -- gender specific didn't exist in Germany, France, Iran, Russia., at least not in the schools I attended. You should have heard the little boys shriek!

Like so many things here, this is a big brouhaha over nothing. As has been repeatedly said, this is a small, private elementary school with private stalls and bathrooms.

And making derogatory comments about California is showing nothing but bigotry and ignorance. Yes, it has gays. Yes, it accepts gays and transgender. There are more straights than gays in California by a large margin. Even the Bay Area has a large Republican contingent. It also has conservatives, a lot of wealth and many resources. Stereotyping is wrong and ugly, whether about an individual, a class, a political party, a state, a religion or whatever. All you show is your ignorance and lack of humanity.

Guest 09-04-2015 01:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108858)
Once again, you FAILED to read the information given. This is ONE small private ELEMENTARY school. It has single toilet bathrooms. One student at a time uses the bathroom.

Go to the Miraloma School website and read what the school says about their gender neutral bathrooms.

How is it different than the gender neutral bathrooms on our golf courses?

Dear Guest: did you know that at the University of Tennessee they want to abolish any form of he she by using nutsy things like xre xr.........

The gay community has followed a well planned out strategy to overhaul straight America into believing that homosexuality is simple a benign choice like choosing chocolate rather than vanilla.

The push to change the definition of marriage was not about civil rights, benefits etc. all of that was already available to the homosexual community. No the redefinition's purpose was to validate the homosexual act as being normal. Ergo by blurring gender. By eliminating a man or a woman you eliminate abnormal because the act as love or lust is the same whether it is between one man and one woman or two men or two women

In order to make all of this work religious teachings about homosexuality has to be eliminated. It is why the homosexual community and their advocates is having such a fierce fight against religious freedom. Its why a clerk in Ky is in jail for abiding by her belief. Its why a baker was made to pay over $300,000 for refusing to bake a cake.

This topic is not about a bathroom its about a minority who is turning normalcy on its head. A minority that has as its benefactor Hollywood
A Hollywood that will without restraint depict as socially acceptable Kanye West, Miley Cyrus , and Bruce Jenner because profits have no conscious or soul. The MTV Awards show demonstrates a very dangerous path for youngsters to follow. Welcome to the "New normal"barf

Guest 09-04-2015 01:28 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1108900]

Dear Guest: did you know that at the University of Tennessee they want to abolish any form of he she by using nutsy things like xre xr.........

The gay community has followed a well planned out strategy to overhaul straight America into believing that homosexuality is simply a benign choice like choosing chocolate rather than vanilla.

The push to change the definition of marriage was not about civil rights, benefits etc. all of that was already available to the homosexual community. No the redefinition's purpose was to validate the homosexual act as being normal. Ergo by blurring gender. By eliminating a man or a woman you eliminate abnormal because the act as love or lust is the same whether it is between one man and one woman or two men or two women

In order to make all of this work religious teachings about homosexuality has to be eliminated. It is why the homosexual community and their advocates is having such a fierce fight against religious freedom. Its why a clerk in Ky is in jail for abiding by her belief. Its why a baker was made to pay over $300,000 for refusing to bake a cake.

This topic is not about a bathroom its about a minority who is turning normalcy on its head. A minority that has as its benefactor Hollywood
A Hollywood that will without restraint depict as socially acceptable Kanye West, Miley Cyrus , and Bruce Jenner because profits have no conscious or soul. The MTV Awards show demonstrates a very dangerous path for youngsters to follow. Welcome to the "New normal"barf

Guest 09-04-2015 02:28 PM

Way too much posting about why it is OK.
My major concern is about how the school administration rolled over to make these changes for 8 students.
If there were 200 then the other 192 need to change to accomodate the 8.

There is no way that is the right approach.
Provide the 8 with their own unmarked toilet. Leave the other 192 called the majority with what was and has been OK with them.

The issue is the number of decisions being taken for the sake of onsey twosey complaints and then changing the other 98% to accomodate the minority or special interest.

That is not right. And it is what is wrong with America today.
And what is even more wrong is the silent majority that just sits back and goes along with their rights, freedoms and beliefs being mauled by the few.

Guest 09-04-2015 02:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108882)
First time I went to school in the USA, I followed a little boy to the bathroom -- gender specific didn't exist in Germany, France, Iran, Russia., at least not in the schools I attended. You should have heard the little boys shriek!

Like so many things here, this is a big brouhaha over nothing. As has been repeatedly said, this is a small, private elementary school with private stalls and bathrooms.

And making derogatory comments about California is showing nothing but bigotry and ignorance. Yes, it has gays. Yes, it accepts gays and transgender. There are more straights than gays in California by a large margin. Even the Bay Area has a large Republican contingent. It also has conservatives, a lot of wealth and many resources. Stereotyping is wrong and ugly, whether about an individual, a class, a political party, a state, a religion or whatever. All you show is your ignorance and lack of humanity.

YOu know what they say about Texas? All they have there are steers and .....rs. :1rotfl::1rotfl: Don't git your panties in a wad, girlie.

Guest 09-04-2015 02:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108900)
Dear Guest: did you know that at the University of Tennessee they want to abolish any form of he she by using nutsy things like xre xr.........

The gay community has followed a well planned out strategy to overhaul straight America into believing that homosexuality is simple a benign choice like choosing chocolate rather than vanilla.

The push to change the definition of marriage was not about civil rights, benefits etc. all of that was already available to the homosexual community. No the redefinition's purpose was to validate the homosexual act as being normal. Ergo by blurring gender. By eliminating a man or a woman you eliminate abnormal because the act as love or lust is the same whether it is between one man and one woman or two men or two women

In order to make all of this work religious teachings about homosexuality has to be eliminated. It is why the homosexual community and their advocates is having such a fierce fight against religious freedom. Its why a clerk in Ky is in jail for abiding by her belief. Its why a baker was made to pay over $300,000 for refusing to bake a cake.

This topic is not about a bathroom its about a minority who is turning normalcy on its head. A minority that has as its benefactor Hollywood
A Hollywood that will without restraint depict as socially acceptable Kanye West, Miley Cyrus , and Bruce Jenner because profits have no conscious or soul. The MTV Awards show demonstrates a very dangerous path for youngsters to follow. Welcome to the "New normal"barf

Excellent analysis .... the essence of the homosexual rights movement is simple ... they want to normalize the abnormal, and therefore feel better about themselves in the process.

Right now, the genuinely normal part of society is too stupid or afraid to speak up ... which at some point will happen.

Guest 09-04-2015 02:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108930)
Way too much posting about why it is OK.
My major concern is about how the school administration rolled over to make these changes for 8 students.
If there were 200 then the other 192 need to change to accomodate the 8.

There is no way that is the right approach.
Provide the 8 with their own unmarked toilet. Leave the other 192 called the majority with what was and has been OK with them.

The issue is the number of decisions being taken for the sake of onsey twosey complaints and then changing the other 98% to accomodate the minority or special interest.

That is not right. And it is what is wrong with America today.
And what is even more wrong is the silent majority that just sits back and goes along with their rights, freedoms and beliefs being mauled by the few.

Correct ...common sense would mean doing as you suggest. But, common sense is now lacking. I note for the record ... its loss appears to most especially acute in academia and amongst school administrators. They seem to have zero common sense these days. We need to starting firing some of them ...

Guest 09-04-2015 03:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108941)
Correct ...common sense would mean doing as you suggest. But, common sense is now lacking. I note for the record ... its loss appears to most especially acute in academia and amongst school administrators. They seem to have zero common sense these days. We need to starting firing some of them ...

Firing is almost nonviable when you have unions controlling everything in the school system.

Guest 09-04-2015 03:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108858)
Once again, you FAILED to read the information given. This is ONE small private ELEMENTARY school. It has single toilet bathrooms. One student at a time uses the bathroom.

Go to the Miraloma School website and read what the school says about their gender neutral bathrooms.

How is it different than the gender neutral bathrooms on our golf courses?

You seem to be very sensitive to criticism of your thinking .... which means you get a lot of it. You've having a hard day.

Guest 09-04-2015 04:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108958)
You seem to be very sensitive to criticism of your thinking .... which means you get a lot of it. You've having a hard day.

...and you are a troll.

Anyhow, back on topic.

This is ONE small private ELEMENTARY school. It has single toilet bathrooms. One student at a time uses the bathroom.

How is it different than the gender neutral bathrooms on our golf courses?

Do you want to petition the VCDD to have separate - but equal - bathrooms on The Villages golf courses?

Guest 09-04-2015 06:13 PM

No big deal? Some are obviously not getting the real issue or like the apparent majority in CA don't care enough to do anything about it........changing the rules of 200 students to appease 8!!!!!!!

Leave the rules for toileting the same. Find a bucket or something better for the 8 that have a problem.

Majority rights and freedoms being trampled and some don't think it is a big deal.

Some day when it hits home you will. By then it may be too late.

Guest 09-04-2015 06:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109002)
...and you are a troll.

Anyhow, back on topic.

This is ONE small private ELEMENTARY school. It has single toilet bathrooms. One student at a time uses the bathroom.

How is it different than the gender neutral bathrooms on our golf courses?

Do you want to petition the VCDD to have separate - but equal - bathrooms on The Villages golf courses?

You're kidding ... you're referring to someone else as a troll??? WTF?

With all due respect, you are THE master at trolling on TOTV and you do it all the time. :)

Guest 09-04-2015 06:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109031)
You're kidding ... you're referring to someone else as a troll??? WTF?

With all due respect, you are THE master at trolling on TOTV and you do it all the time. :)



You have not replied as to what is wrong with gender neutral bathrooms when the private school uses one toilet bathrooms and only one student uses the bathroom at one time.

Guest 09-04-2015 07:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109044)
You have not replied as to what is wrong with gender neutral bathrooms when the private school uses one toilet bathrooms and only one student uses the bathroom at one time.

:cryin2::cryin2:

Guest 09-04-2015 10:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109071)
:cryin2::cryin2:


The troll has nothing to say, I guess.

Get back in your troll hole.

I have told you several times that you are not relevant. Away with you!

Guest 09-04-2015 11:13 PM

I live in a home that is gender neutral. It is a one stall. We close the door for privacy and only person uses the bathroom at a time. There are family bathrooms in many large department stores like Kohls or Walmart. Whole families go in there at one time. They have taller toilets and smaller toilets. There are handicap accessible stalls for this who need it. There are port-o- potties for outdoor workers or stadium goers. They don't even flush. There are outdoor outhouses for campers. There are unisex bathrooms in some churches because of space issues. On the airplane last week I used a unisex bathroom. Our society provides for all kinds of people, since we have all kinds of people living in the USA. Happy to be living in the Land of the Free, where my choices for toileting abound!

Guest 09-05-2015 04:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108946)
Firing is almost nonviable when you have unions controlling everything in the school system.

Dear Guest: You cite a critical and perhaps dangerous issue facing our nation.

In my post (#13/14 it was posted twice?) I made mention of the University of Tennessee attempts at removing pronouns he she with such things as xr xre, etc.

Now I read that professors at the University of Washington have instructed white students that unless they remove/show understanding of race gender and immigrations issues they will fail their classes. In other words agree with us or fail. and this sort of thing abound in the education community

Our schools have control of our children. We trust that they will do them no harm but clearly the radical left have been feeding our kids with multi-cultural nonsense that does little good for preparing them for the business world outside and harms them because they have insisted that any view but radical leftist agenda is wrong and so our kids have lost the ability to debate, do not understanding civics, have lost of critical thinking, view America's history as repressive and colonial. Why is it educators believe they have a right to indoctrinate other people's children on their interpretation of morality? Isn't the purpose of education to show kids how to analyze, interpret and come to independent decisions on their own.

Did you know that an estimated 1/3 of college students did not know they had an obligation to pay back student loans

Teachers unions concern the heck out of me because they interfere in the school selection process by parents and in our election process . They protect incompetent teachers and have in many instances backed teachers who have otherwise damaged a child. I do not abide interference of the election process by big corporations/lobbyist nor do I want union leaders deciding. It is pure and simple corruption

In every aspect of American living progressives are pushing for the "new normal" which is pretty much expressed in the TMZ, MTV world and other such social media shows such as Extra, etc.

The traditional world of the nuclear family, American exceptionalism, civility, morality are quickly disappearing. Its why an anarchist movement such as Black Lives Matter can operate with impunity. Its why the progressive show little concern when cops are killed?????????????????????

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 09-05-2015 05:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109107)
The troll has nothing to say, I guess.

Get back in your troll hole.

I have told you several times that you are not relevant. Away with you!

Troll Alert!! This is your last warning. No one will respond to your posts in the future, until you reply civilly. Sorry if you feel discriminated against.

:cryin2::cryin2::cryin2::cryin2::cryin2:

Guest 09-05-2015 05:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109134)
Dear Guest: You cite a critical and perhaps dangerous issue facing our nation.

In my post (#13/14 it was posted twice?) I made mention of the University of Tennessee attempts at removing pronouns he she with such things as xr xre, etc.

Now I read that professors at the University of Washington have instructed white students that unless they remove/show understanding of race gender and immigrations issues they will fail their classes. In other words agree with us or fail. and this sort of thing abound in the education community

Our schools have control of our children. We trust that they will do them no harm but clearly the radical left have been feeding our kids with multi-cultural nonsense that does little good for preparing them for the business world outside and harms them because they have insisted that any view but radical leftist agenda is wrong and so our kids have lost the ability to debate, do not understanding civics, have lost of critical thinking, view America's history as repressive and colonial. Why is it educators believe they have a right to indoctrinate other people's children on their interpretation of morality? Isn't the purpose of education to show kids how to analyze, interpret and come to independent decisions on their own.

Did you know that an estimated 1/3 of college students did not know they had an obligation to pay back student loans

Teachers unions concern the heck out of me because they interfere in the school selection process by parents and in our election process . They protect incompetent teachers and have in many instances backed teachers who have otherwise damaged a child. I do not abide interference of the election process by big corporations/lobbyist nor do I want union leaders deciding. It is pure and simple corruption

In every aspect of American living progressives are pushing for the "new normal" which is pretty much expressed in the TMZ, MTV world and other such social media shows such as Extra, etc.

The traditional world of the nuclear family, American exceptionalism, civility, morality are quickly disappearing. Its why an anarchist movement such as Black Lives Matter can operate with impunity. Its why the progressive show little concern when cops are killed?????????????????????

Personal Best Regards:

:agree:

Guest 09-05-2015 05:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1108939)
Excellent analysis .... the essence of the homosexual rights movement is simple ... they want to normalize the abnormal, and therefore feel better about themselves in the process.

Right now, the genuinely normal part of society is too stupid or afraid to speak up ... which at some point will happen.

:BigApplause:

Guest 09-05-2015 07:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109139)
Troll Alert!! This is your last warning. No one will respond to your posts in the future, until you reply civilly. Sorry if you feel discriminated against.

:cryin2::cryin2::cryin2::cryin2::cryin2:

You definitely have a serious mental issue. Please seek professional help and do consider a voluntary 72 hour mental facility assessment.

This is being said of genuine concern and also for the safety of you and those around you.

If anyone knows this person, please see that he/seeks help.

Guest 09-05-2015 09:11 AM

Leave the genders alone. God made two genders and HE doesn't make mistakes. If you aren't satisfied with what you are, sorry but you can't reverse it. Like someone once said "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." That young boy should be sent to counseling so he can learn how to deal with his identity crisis. If he can't assimilate with the other children, then his parents should take him out of school and home school him.

Guest 09-05-2015 09:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109245)
Leave the genders alone. God made two genders and HE doesn't make mistakes. If you aren't satisfied with what you are, sorry but you can't reverse it. Like someone once said "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." That young boy should be sent to counseling so he can learn how to deal with his identity crisis. If he can't assimilate with the other children, then his parents should take him out of school and home school him.

Well put and common sense solution. What gets me .... common sense is increasingly uncommon, a casualty of our living in a country run by Liberals. Time to throw them ALL out.

Guest 09-05-2015 12:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109245)
Leave the genders alone. God made two genders and HE doesn't make mistakes. If you aren't satisfied with what you are, sorry but you can't reverse it. Like someone once said "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." That young boy should be sent to counseling so he can learn how to deal with his identity crisis. If he can't assimilate with the other children, then his parents should take him out of school and home school him.

:BigApplause:

Guest 09-05-2015 01:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1109176)
You definitely have a serious mental issue. Please seek professional help and do consider a voluntary 72 hour mental facility assessment.

This is being said of genuine concern and also for the safety of you and those around you.

If anyone knows this person, please see that he/seeks help.

Pot calling the kettle black???


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