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Guest 09-05-2015 03:38 PM

Trump ahead of Clinton by 5 points
 
SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton by 5 Points

New USASurvey poll puts Trump ahead of Clinton by 5 points.

Trump is also beating out all the other Democrat contenders.

But, polls are just checking the temperature of political moods at a given time. It could shift again tomorrow. He'll probably get further ahead...:D

Guest 09-05-2015 04:49 PM

Only 5 points. Just shows how low the bar is now set. That some still think Clinton would be a good candidate for President just confuses me to no end.

Guest 09-05-2015 05:09 PM

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Only 5 points. Just shows how low the bar is now set. That some still think Clinton would be a good candidate for President just confuses me to no end.

I think some of them fell into the barrel scraping the bottom for a candidate. I guess the writing is on the wall and no one on the left wants to step in to the ring and take a beatin'. :boxing2:

Guest 09-05-2015 06:24 PM

Whoever the Republican party chooses has to appeal to a majority of voters. The majority of voters could include Democrats, Independents, and maybe a socialist or two. The only successful one party government exists in China.

Guest 09-05-2015 07:09 PM

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Whoever the Republican party chooses has to appeal to a majority of voters. The majority of voters could include Democrats, Independents, and maybe a socialist or two. The only successful one party government exists in China.

Hypothetically true. However, the GOP choice could conceivably be elected IF he/she has the Republican turn out and the majority of the Independent vote. Independents polled right now, are leaning toward the conservative, adamantly opposing the far left, so that leaves Sanders out, and most likely Clinton, if she survives to the general.

Guest 09-05-2015 10:50 PM

The Democratic Party Will make a move soon. Most likely Biden jumps in....Clinton fades away........then a sorting out within the party until a viable, potentially electable candidate surfaces.

Starting to look and sound like 2008 again. In 2008 Clinton was not as tarnished as she is currently. She is currently non-viable damaged goods.

Guest 09-06-2015 05:49 AM

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The Democratic Party Will make a move soon. Most likely Biden jumps in....Clinton fades away........then a sorting out within the party until a viable, potentially electable candidate surfaces.

Starting to look and sound like 2008 again. In 2008 Clinton was not as tarnished as she is currently. She is currently non-viable damaged goods.

I think some are giving the Democrats too much credit. They will NOT have the black vote this time. They may get the majority of the female vote ONLY if Clinton makes it to the general. Big IF. Trump is getting the Republican party animated and motivated, so I am expecting a larger turnout this time...hopefully. I don't see the Dems doing much this time around, as Clinton has been like a punch in the stomach for them. Biden will probably jump in to save the day, maybe too late. He'll probably talk Liz Warren the wannabe native American to join him. Probably too little, too late.

Right now, it appears that either Trump or Carson will get the nomination, but it's still early. More debates to come. I still like Kasich, but I don't think he has enough time to move to the lead. I do see Carson converting a few blacks to the conservative view, but not many. I think that some of the older blacks are seeing through the socialist slavery of the Dems, but they young are still too angry. About what? About perceived slights, that they bring on themselves. Personally, I think that if Obama had just an inkling of what Carson emanates he could have done a lot of good for this country. He did the opposite, and was divisive. That's very disappointing.

Guest 09-06-2015 06:18 AM

It is a sad state of affairs wherein even the act of utilizing a private e-mail server by an individual so well versed in security matters can continuing as a candidate. It is even more baffling when that individual on a daily basis spins a new tale/excuse/reason. This is especially troubling when that individual has had a trail of scandals following her , her entire career.

The remark by Scott Walker "the Chinese and Russians know more about Clinton's mails than we do "is explosive. First because it points to the fact that Clinton's e-mail server was likely hacked, secondly America's security has once again been compromised. But it also means that Clinton has been compromised because our enemies know all her secrets. And the coup d'"etat they know she is a liar and so if she becomes president they will never believe anything she says

As a voter I can hardly believe that Clinton is yet a viable candidate. It clearly speaks to the fact that voters have become very unsophisticated
and disengaged finding this campaign as "sport only"

There are only a handful of really decent candidates running now and once can only hope that the Trump/Clinton dramas play out soon so that voters get down to the business of choosing and choosing wisely.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 09-06-2015 06:30 AM

When you consider the fact that Marion Barry, a convicted drug abuser could be re-elected in D.C. then it is not hard to believe that liberals have no pride or honor. After all, the left has a long history of being backed by union mob bosses and the mafia. What honor and pride they might have had, has long faded away.

Guest 09-06-2015 09:45 AM

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When you consider the fact that Marion Barry, a convicted drug abuser could be re-elected in D.C. then it is not hard to believe that liberals have no pride or honor. After all, the left has a long history of being backed by union mob bosses and the mafia. What honor and pride they might have had, has long faded away.

Good point ... simplifying things, today's contemporary Democrat Left (unlike FDR or Truman) descends from Robespierre whereas the Conservatives descend from Burke. That's pretty much the essence of the difference in a nutshell

Guest 09-06-2015 09:54 AM

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SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton by 5 Points

New USASurvey poll puts Trump ahead of Clinton by 5 points.

Trump is also beating out all the other Democrat contenders.

But, polls are just checking the temperature of political moods at a given time. It could shift again tomorrow. He'll probably get further ahead...:D

Some good news, but terrifying to your average Villages liberal, some of whom are just now beginning to think about slitting their wrists once President Trump is inaugurated

I will bet money that Hillary ends up being indicted, but I just hope it's not anytime soon. About this time next year would be ideal ... and further bump Trump's victory margin to about 10 points. :)

Guest 09-06-2015 09:54 PM

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Some good news, but terrifying to your average Villages liberal, some of whom are just now beginning to think about slitting their wrists once President Trump is inaugurated

I will bet money that Hillary ends up being indicted, but I just hope it's not anytime soon. About this time next year would be ideal ... and further bump Trump's victory margin to about 10 points. :)

Bernie Sanders Leads Hillary Clinton by 9 in New Hampshire, Gains in Iowa: Poll - NBC News

Guest 09-07-2015 03:52 AM

I don't see Hilary indicted. She knows where all the bodies are hid in D.C. and will eventually use her witchcraft to put a hex on all those that oppose her.

Guest 09-07-2015 08:43 AM

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I don't see Hilary indicted. She knows where all the bodies are hid in D.C. and will eventually use her witchcraft to put a hex on all those that oppose her.

However, she will still not be the democratic candidate.

It is like trying to convince people of the good that Al Capone did during his reign and forget the bad stuff.

She is what she is....a LIAR, dishonest, untrustworthy, devious, all for Clinton phony.

Guest 09-07-2015 09:12 AM

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However, she will still not be the democratic candidate.

It is like trying to convince people of the good that Al Capone did during his reign and forget the bad stuff.

She is what she is....a LIAR, dishonest, untrustworthy, devious, all for Clinton phony.

Hey, I agree. But, have you seen anyone in this administration actually punished? Even Gen.P only got a slap on the wrist. Nope, the Clintons can fall into a pigpen and come out smelling like gramma's apple pie. Liberals are so corrupt that they believe corruption is the norm.

Guest 09-07-2015 09:22 AM

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I don't see Hilary indicted. She knows where all the bodies are hid in D.C. and will eventually use her witchcraft to put a hex on all those that oppose her.

Normally I'd agree BUT she's violated some heavy duty statutes involving espionage laws and failure to protect national security (ie classified) information. I do think, at some point, she will be indicted and then maybe plea bargains out of it. Of course, if there are enough liberal idiots in this country (an open question) and she's elected, she could simply pardon herself I guess?

Guest 09-07-2015 09:32 AM

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Normally I'd agree BUT she's violated some heavy duty statutes involving espionage laws and failure to protect national security (ie classified) information. I do think, at some point, she will be indicted and then maybe plea bargains out of it. Of course, if there are enough liberal idiots in this country (an open question) and she's elected, she could simply pardon herself I guess?

She probably thinks she can pardon herself right now. After all, when asked by whose authority did she utilize her private server for official State Dept business, she replied "MY AUTHORITY". She doesn't even plan on doing the obligatory debates, other than a couple that have already been scheduled, because she feels they are a waste of her precious time. She is walking through her campaign, if you wish to call it that. She considers herself already elected and is blaming the GOP for slowing the process down. But, liberals will still mindlessly vote for her, as they did her felonious husband after he perjured himself. So, what can you do when liberals seem to act like mindless drones? You would think that they would have more class than they seem to indicate.

Guest 09-10-2015 05:04 AM

Marion Barry was not reelected by "liberals". He was reelected by the black vote in DC (and DC is mostly black) because of a strong base that went back to the civil rights era. Even though "the bitch set him up", it simply didn't matter with his base. Don't try to make this a "liberal" thing.

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When you consider the fact that Marion Barry, a convicted drug abuser could be re-elected in D.C. then it is not hard to believe that liberals have no pride or honor. After all, the left has a long history of being backed by union mob bosses and the mafia. What honor and pride they might have had, has long faded away.


Guest 09-10-2015 05:16 AM

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Marion Barry was not reelected by "liberals". He was reelected by the black vote in DC (and DC is mostly black) because of a strong base that went back to the civil rights era. Even though "the bitch set him up", it simply didn't matter with his base. Don't try to make this a "liberal" thing.

Ahh, I see. It was all a "black" thing, because blacks aren't liberals, right? Sorry, but it IS a liberal thing. Clinton is a liberal and she will get a free pass from the left, no matter what she did/does. The Clintons have been getting away with breaking rules and laws for decades.

Guest 09-10-2015 06:17 AM

Of course it was a black thing. Policy positions didn't matter at all. Barry was their guy and, as I already stated, had a base that was established during the civil rights era. I would hardly call civil rights a liberal policy. If you do, please stop posting on this forum as you are an embarrassment to those of us who are conservative. Also, please avoid employing strawman arguments - they are disingenuous and are a liberal thing to do. You don't need to drag Barry into a argument about Clinton. We all understand that she is inherently dishonest and believes in her own special form of exceptionalism. This forum can really test one's patience.

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Ahh, I see. It was all a "black" thing, because blacks aren't liberals, right? Sorry, but it IS a liberal thing. Clinton is a liberal and she will get a free pass from the left, no matter what she did/does. The Clintons have been getting away with breaking rules and laws for decades.


Guest 09-10-2015 06:28 AM

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Ahh, I see. It was all a "black" thing, because blacks aren't liberals, right? Sorry, but it IS a liberal thing. Clinton is a liberal and she will get a free pass from the left, no matter what she did/does. The Clintons have been getting away with breaking rules and laws for decades.

Clinton means "no cutz in da check"...the recipients (no matter race) could care less how many emails she deleted. She says "tax the rich and give to the poor" and the recipients like the sound of that! This country's government assistance programs are a failure (we have multi generation recipients), the recipients are not interested in "Making America Great Again" nor are they interested in "Putting America Back to Work". The recipients represent 49% of Americans, and Clinton will bus them to the poles, and they will vote for having food and care provided for them while they are watching TV and talking on their Obamma phones.

Guest 09-10-2015 06:41 AM

The real issue is the number of hard working, productive people who will vote for Clinton and will ignore the failed policies that her party represents and the inherent dishonesty that is part and parcel to everything she does and says.

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Clinton means "no cutz in da check"...the recipients (no matter race) could care less how many emails she deleted. She says "tax the rich and give to the poor" and the recipients like the sound of that! This country's government assistance programs are a failure (we have multi generation recipients), the recipients are not interested in "Making America Great Again" nor are they interested in "Putting America Back to Work". The recipients represent 49% of Americans, and Clinton will bus them to the poles, and they will vote for having food and care provided for them while they are watching TV and talking on their Obamma phones.


Guest 09-10-2015 08:07 AM

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The real issue is the number of hard working, productive people who will vote for Clinton and will ignore the failed policies that her party represents and the inherent dishonesty that is part and parcel to everything she does and says.

Those hard working fools and the 49% = majority of votes.

I believe the real issue is; When this country goes bankrupt and no longer able to fund these government assistance programs for the 49% (or more, because that % is based on 2011 census), the recipients will be forced to get food and money from somewhere else...they will not be getting jobs, so possibly, they will burn their own homes to the ground in a revolt and then proceed to move into your home.

I doubt Warren Buffet is going to help, I believe he is only a philanthropist while garnering farm and railroad subsidies...

Guest 09-10-2015 08:14 AM

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SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton by 5 Points

New USASurvey poll puts Trump ahead of Clinton by 5 points.

Trump is also beating out all the other Democrat contenders.

But, polls are just checking the temperature of political moods at a given time. It could shift again tomorrow. He'll probably get further ahead...:D

I do not understand the appeal of this man? He is someone who wants very big government but has not explained how he will pay for all his grandiose plans like the 1900 mile wall and a huge military. His economic policy looks more like something coming out of the progressive camp. He is an anti-Reagan in many ways. Maybe, just because he is thumbing his nose at both the Republican and Democratic establishments because he can due to his huge amount of money. One big question? How can he do anything though if he alienates everyone unless he is the typical backroom dealer who does the opposite of what he says he would do.

Guest 09-10-2015 08:39 AM

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I do not understand the appeal of this man? He is someone who wants very big government but has not explained how he will pay for all his grandiose plans like the 1900 mile wall and a huge military. His economic policy looks more like something coming out of the progressive camp. He is an anti-Reagan in many ways. Maybe, just because he is thumbing his nose at both the Republican and Democratic establishments because he can due to his huge amount of money. One big question? How can he do anything though if he alienates everyone unless he is the typical backroom dealer who does the opposite of what he says he would do.

you mean a politician!!!

Guest 09-10-2015 09:07 AM

Yes, the demographics are not good. Hunker down, it is going to be a rough ride.

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Those hard working fools and the 49% = majority of votes.

I believe the real issue is; When this country goes bankrupt and no longer able to fund these government assistance programs for the 49% (or more, because that % is based on 2011 census), the recipients will be forced to get food and money from somewhere else...they will not be getting jobs, so possibly, they will burn their own homes to the ground in a revolt and then proceed to move into your home.

I doubt Warren Buffet is going to help, I believe he is only a philanthropist while garnering farm and railroad subsidies...


Guest 09-10-2015 10:03 AM

Liberals are scared of Trump because he will promise them the same thing that the Dem's are promising, only he is also telling them that their jobs are being stolen by the illegals. On top of that, he is bragging about being rich and telling them that he wants all of them to be rich too. Everything that they want to hear. He's playing their own game against them. He didn't amass billions by being stupid.


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