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Fredwms 10-01-2015 01:36 PM

What is the best gas to use in Yamaha gas carts?
 
What is the best gas to use in Yamaha gas carts and where to buy it? We are south of 466A.

fred53 10-01-2015 01:43 PM

Regular out of the pumps? Sure you can pay a bit more at Sumpter Cart world, but since my 2003 Yamaha has been running for 13 years+ on unleaded with zero problems I don't think I'll change....

LI SNOWBIRD 10-02-2015 09:22 AM

the cheapest

golfing eagles 10-02-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredwms (Post 1122678)
What is the best gas to use in Yamaha gas carts?

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schrdr 10-02-2015 09:57 AM

I have used regular gas with a stabalizer added for a long time. Seemed to work fine. I then tried a higher octane recreational gas and saw a huge difference in performance. My cart now runs smoother and quieter.

tuccillo 10-02-2015 10:06 AM

As per the owner's manual, unleaded with 10% or less ethanol.

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Originally Posted by Fredwms (Post 1122678)
What is the best gas to use in Yamaha gas carts?


village dreamer 10-02-2015 02:14 PM

free gas!!!

Challenger 10-02-2015 03:31 PM

If you Google this issue you will find that 87 octane is just fine. Any higher octane is just a waste of money. Non ethanol gas might be preferable. I have two carts which my family runs to death. EZGO 5yrs- Yamaha 6yrs. 87 octane only . Neither one has ever even hiccupped. Change oil, filter and spark once a year.

Check other threads on this forum

Rango 10-03-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1123128)
As per the owner's manual, unleaded with 10% or less ethanol.

Sorry, but rather than use the owners manual, I prefer to rely on a self proclaimed internet expert. :laugh:

MikeV 10-03-2015 12:10 PM

Gas from the pump at Colony works fine in mine.

billethkid 10-22-2015 06:26 PM

I go along with the cheapest available.

asianthree 10-22-2015 09:13 PM

Carts and clubs has us use premium. Went to cart station today in LSL $3.40

Shimpy 10-23-2015 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1122689)
Regular out of the pumps? Sure you can pay a bit more at Sumpter Cart world, but since my 2003 Yamaha has been running for 13 years+ on unleaded with zero problems I don't think I'll change....

UNLEADED gas is the ONLY gas available and legal for over 25 years. The cart stores are selling NON-ETHANOL.

Diver 11-15-2015 03:53 PM

The vgs store in Brownwood has ethanol free gas, it costs more but is better for the fuel system. Ethanol causes problems with the rubber and attracts water.

Gerald 11-15-2015 04:06 PM

I have used regular gas with a stabalizer added for a long time. Seemed to work fine. I then tried a higher octane recreational gas and saw a huge difference in performance. My cart now runs smoother and quieter.

I AGREE, AND YOU CAN GET IT AT MARATHON STATION NEAR YOU.

dbussone 11-15-2015 04:13 PM

Yamaha urges against the use of a stabilizer unless you are away for long periods.

Marathon Man 11-15-2015 07:26 PM

I also noticed the difference once i filled up with non-ethanol gas. The engine was noticeably quieter and smoother. I fill up at Marathon.

yabbadu 11-15-2015 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1123128)
As per the owner's manual, unleaded with 10% or less ethanol.

Second that; Owners manual is the best guide for gas :clap2:especially if in warranty

RickeyD 11-16-2015 05:40 AM

Unfortunately qualitative results are more in vogue on this subject then quantitative. Do what the owners manual states and the engine will perform as designed, case closed.

villages07 11-16-2015 07:41 AM

How much is the ethanol free gas at Marathon? Last time I was at Lake Sumter station it was 2.99 while regular unleaded gas at Shell was closer to $2. That's a pretty significant price difference.

redwitch 11-16-2015 07:44 AM

The golf cart mechanics I have spoken to all recommend using non-ethanol. You can get that at Gordon's Garage in Lake Sumter, near Barnes & Nobles, or the Marathon gas station in Pinellas Plaza. If you can't get to one of these stations, occasionally filling up with regular gas won't hurt the cart.

Personally, I consider the mechanics the experts. Rather listen to them than even the owner's manual. They know what goes wrong in carts and why.

CWGUY 11-16-2015 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1146218)
The golf cart mechanics I have spoken to all recommend using non-ethanol. You can get that at Gordon's Garage in Lake Sumter, near Barnes & Nobles, or the Marathon gas station in Pinellas Plaza. If you can't get to one of these stations, occasionally filling up with regular gas won't hurt the cart.

Personally, I consider the mechanics the experts. Rather listen to them than even the owner's manual. They know what goes wrong in carts and why.

And the people that DESIGN, BUILD, and WARRANTY the carts don't?? :ohdear:

yabbadu 11-16-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1146224)
And the people that DESIGN, BUILD, and WARRANTY the carts don't?? :ohdear:

Good response! :bigbow:

yabbadu 11-16-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1133863)
Carts and clubs has us use premium. Went to cart station today in LSL $3.40

Premium at Colony in $2.75 range as is Marathon at Pinnellas Plaza.

RickeyD 11-16-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1146218)
The golf cart mechanics I have spoken to all recommend using non-ethanol. You can get that at Gordon's Garage in Lake Sumter, near Barnes & Nobles, or the Marathon gas station in Pinellas Plaza. If you can't get to one of these stations, occasionally filling up with regular gas won't hurt the cart.



Personally, I consider the mechanics the experts. Rather listen to them than even the owner's manual. They know what goes wrong in carts and why.


If these guys were experts on the internal combustion engine why are they working on golf cart engines ? Seems to me that expert mechanics would be working on equipment more sophisticated than put put engines. Do what the owners manual says ( it was written by real experts ) and save a buck a gallon in the process.

RickeyD 11-16-2015 02:18 PM

What is the best gas to use in Yamaha gas carts?
 
93 or higher octane gasoline does nothing that 89 octane can't do in an engine designed to run on 89. That is a fact. Doesn't matter if it's a cart engine or a V8. Higher octane allows the fuel to combust slower, nothing more. If an engine is built and tuned to spec for low octane fuel, that's all it needs. Anyone telling you different is blowing smoke, not facts. Also, all modern engines have hoses and components designed to withstand ethanol enhanced fuels. Save $$$ and do what the owners manual states.

rubicon 11-16-2015 02:21 PM

When posters address the best gas o use for a Yamaha gas cart does it make a FI engine make a difference? Carts and clubs had given me written instruction suggesting less than 10% ethanol 87 octane was fine and that if I wanted to use a stablizer I could but it wasn't necessary and then provided me with three different brands

My neighbor has had his EI gas cart for well over a year and started with a stablizer than dropped it and hasn't noticed a difference. I suspect it because he is not gone for long periods at a time

Since the dealer is coming by my home on Wednesday I intend to revisit this issue

Challenger 11-16-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1146465)
93 or higher octane gasoline does nothing that 89 octane can't do in an engine designed to run on 89. That is a fact. Doesn't matter if it's a cart engine or a V8. Higher octane allows the fuel to combust slower, nothing more. If an engine is built and tuned to spec for low octane fuel, that's all it needs. Anyone telling you different is blowing smoke, not facts. Also, all modern engines have hoses and components designed to withstand ethanol enhanced fuels. Save $$$ and do what the owners manual states.

So true

For some reason people want to spend(waste) money . They have been brain washed by Oil companies and supplement producers. Many mechanics, salesmen and next door neighbors have little or no actual knowledge of the chemical and mechanical effects of fuel. I have two carts, Yamaha EZGO,drive them to death over the past 5 years. Always fill with lowest octane I can find, never put anything else including stabilizer in the tank. For many people the placebo effect is working. Have never experience even one engine issue.

I don, think mine is an isolated case.

RickeyD 11-16-2015 02:38 PM

What is the best gas to use in Yamaha gas carts?
 
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klough53 01-09-2016 01:58 PM

Owner suggests regular from Colony, is this non ethanol?
Why this particular place?

tuccillo 01-09-2016 02:20 PM

It doesn't matter where you buy your gas. Use Regular (87 octane), which has 10% ethanol. If your cart is going to sit for a length of time add some fuel stabilizer.

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Originally Posted by klough53 (Post 1169075)
Owner suggests regular from Colony, is this non ethanol?
Why this particular place?


rubicon 01-09-2016 03:42 PM

As President Truman once lamented "Someone find me a one handed economist.

The American past time is not Baseball...its peers debating what method is superior. Caulk don't caulk, wrap don't wrap, use regular gas no premium, less than 10% ethanol, no ethanol, stablizer no stablizer, diet don;t diet, eat meat don't eat meat Please someone find me a one handed expert I'm tired of hearing "on the other hand

coalminer 01-09-2016 04:09 PM

I have a fuel injected Yamaha and I run regular from Colony and have no problems.

tuccillo 01-09-2016 04:17 PM

With regard to which gas for a gas golf cart, read the owners manual. For Yamaha gas carts, regular with up to 10% ethanol is OK according to the people who made the cart. Not much to debate.

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1169118)
As President Truman once lamented "Someone find me a one handed economist.

The American past time is not Baseball...its peers debating what method is superior. Caulk don't caulk, wrap don't wrap, use regular gas no premium, less than 10% ethanol, no ethanol, stablizer no stablizer, diet don;t diet, eat meat don't eat meat Please someone find me a one handed expert I'm tired of hearing "on the other hand


KeepingItReal 01-09-2016 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1146218)

Personally, I consider the mechanics the experts. Rather listen to them than even the owner's manual. They know what goes wrong in carts and why.

Use whatever fuel makes you happy but I agree, the soon to be three Villages golf cart stores have chosen to sell Ethanol free fuels and no doubt they could have gotten regular gasoline with Ethanol easier.

Mechanics see the problems, manufacturers want to you to buy another unit.

Phase shift or separation is just one of the hidden problems with Ethanol.

Phase Separation in E-10 Gasoline

What is Phase Separation?
E-10 gasoline is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air). If enough water is present, either from condensation or contaminated fuel, E-10 will separate into two layers of liquid: a top layer which is almost all gasoline, and a bottom layer which is almost all ethanol (up to 75%) and water (and oil, in 2-cycle fuel). This process is called phase separation, and may make an engine difficult or impossible to start.

Problems with Phase Separation

Phase separation will pull the octane booster out of the fuel, suddenly dropping 89 octane to 82 or 83. If the fuel filter is clean but the engine has no power, phase separation with octane drop has probably occurred.


golfing eagles 01-09-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1169229)
Use whatever fuel makes you happy but I agree, the soon to be three Villages golf cart stores have chosen to sell Ethanol free fuels and no doubt they could have gotten regular gasoline with Ethanol easier.

Mechanics see the problems, manufacturers want to you to buy another unit.

Phase shift or separation is just one of the hidden problems with Ethanol.

Phase Separation in E-10 Gasoline

What is Phase Separation?
E-10 gasoline is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air). If enough water is present, either from condensation or contaminated fuel, E-10 will separate into two layers of liquid: a top layer which is almost all gasoline, and a bottom layer which is almost all ethanol (up to 75%) and water (and oil, in 2-cycle fuel). This process is called phase separation, and may make an engine difficult or impossible to start.

Problems with Phase Separation

Phase separation will pull the octane booster out of the fuel, suddenly dropping 89 octane to 82 or 83. If the fuel filter is clean but the engine has no power, phase separation with octane drop has probably occurred.


OMG, is the moon blue? Is this February 30th? I find myself 100% in agreement with KIR. I'm off to the psychiatrist to get my head checked:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

biker1 01-09-2016 09:03 PM

If you are using the cart regularly this is not a problem. If your cart sits for long periods of time it may be an issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1169229)
Use whatever fuel makes you happy but I agree, the soon to be three Villages golf cart stores have chosen to sell Ethanol free fuels and no doubt they could have gotten regular gasoline with Ethanol easier.

Mechanics see the problems, manufacturers want to you to buy another unit.

Phase shift or separation is just one of the hidden problems with Ethanol.

Phase Separation in E-10 Gasoline

What is Phase Separation?
E-10 gasoline is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air). If enough water is present, either from condensation or contaminated fuel, E-10 will separate into two layers of liquid: a top layer which is almost all gasoline, and a bottom layer which is almost all ethanol (up to 75%) and water (and oil, in 2-cycle fuel). This process is called phase separation, and may make an engine difficult or impossible to start.

Problems with Phase Separation

Phase separation will pull the octane booster out of the fuel, suddenly dropping 89 octane to 82 or 83. If the fuel filter is clean but the engine has no power, phase separation with octane drop has probably occurred.



Fraugoofy 01-09-2016 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1146121)
I also noticed the difference once i filled up with non-ethanol gas. The engine was noticeably quieter and smoother. I fill up at Marathon.

Is that why your TOTV name is Marathon Man?

Greg Nelson 01-10-2016 08:20 AM

I like Seafoam for extended down time..works good in my tbird

Marathon Man 01-10-2016 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1169291)
Is that why your TOTV name is Marathon Man?

It is not. And I did not notice the coincidence when I typed it. Almost looks like I'm advertising that particular company.


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