But one hope for 2016
 

I hope that a Republican candidate wins in 2016 and figures out a way to bring obama up on criminal charges. Strip him of his life time pay and security.Put him in jail for 9 years or what ever it is with secret service protection. Is this to much to ask. I know it wont happen but I can dream.

Wishful thinking is not productive.

Now that will be construed as discriminating agisnt a balck guy and will be either immediately shot down or tied up in investigations and studies for the rest of time.

Good thought however!

Ideas come from dreamers, inventions come from ideas, reality comes from inventions. Chris Columbus was a dreamer and you know where that went.

Why don't we put all the republican Presidents in JAIL. Like BUSH going to war for no reason. Leaving the economy in turmoil.

I'd be happy if Obama left office in 2017 and disappeared into obscurity. But, that won't happen, he will be like a turd that won't flush.

Now that is a profound and inaccurate statement !

If "my guy" screws the pooch, let me see..ignore that and go after the last guy.

No, it was a very accurate statement. Weasel Bush and his pupper master Cheney took this country into war, cost thousands of lives, thousands more mutilated, billions of wasted dollars - all done on a lie.

Both Bush and Cheney would be tried for war crimes in the World Court if they ever left the USA.

that last sentence about war crimes is a ridiculous assertion!

While we are all GUEST, you get to know posters, and this guy does not read the current news, and is all wrapped up in websites that preach the progressive message, which up to now us to blame Bush for everything, despite what is happening around him.

What about Hillary? She also supported the action to take the country to war. Oh, you conveniently forgot about her, huh?

That's the point. They are so naive and ignorant that they are being given socialism and told it is a new thing called being Progressive. The joke is on these poor unfortunate fools that will have to pay for their folly long after we are gone. And the whole time, they will be instructed to grumble a blame Bush for their plight. A pathetic bunch, at best.

I agree. It is nearly impossible to educate the profoundly ignorant.

Just the typical overdose of Kool-aid

Has W. Bush or Cheney visited Europe since leaving office? Chances are they would be arrested and tried as war criminals at the World Court.

If this is not true, why haven't either of them visited Europe?

Naw, Bush is too busy ridding Africa of HIV. Unlike Hilary, who had a jolly good time gallivanting about the world on the people's dime, Bush is still dedicated to helping others. You are an ignorant lad. Perhaps you should spend more time in the school library, than playing video games on your iphone.

Instead of asking us, why don't you send them an email and ask them.

I don't know, maybe for the same reason that you haven't visited Gabon.

Is there a point to this thread?

Personal Best Regards:

From what whacko website did you get this logic ?

MAN, you are in bizarro world with this stuff.

He attacked a country that did not attack the US....he ordered torture

End of Story.....

And, Obama attacked Syria which did not attack the US...he bombed a hospital.

End of Story.

President Obama DESTROYED LIBYA.......

"Barack Obama destroyed Libya.

What he did to Libya is as bad as what Bush did to Iraq and Afghanistan. He doesn't deserve a historical pass."

This is from a PROGRESSIVE website....

"To Obama's credit, he admits that he screwed up in Libya. Unfortunately, he drew the wrong lesson. In 2014, he told an interviewer that a large ground invasion force might have helped Libya's post-Gaddafi government succeed. Because that worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan. But if he really believes that, why doesn't he order in the troops?

Obama's real mistake was to depose a secular socialist autocrat and allow him to be replaced by a bunch of crazy religious fundamentalist militias whose factionalism ensured they'd never be able to govern.

Bush committed this error in Iraq. Obama made it in Libya. And now he's doing it again in Syria."

Obama Destroyed Libya | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community

You folks who view the world through a strict politics only prism are really missing the boat. This President and this party have conned everyone and they do it agressively (agressive attack is the new Democratic party since Obama).

The world is on fire folks....look around

Bush attacked a country that violated the no fly zone. He also attacked a dictator that used WMDs on his own people, killing hundreds of thousands of citizens and buried them in a mass grave. I was there when they uncovered it. Sadaam along with his brother(s) cruised the Baghdad and kidnapped young women, taking them back to their palace, raping them and then killing them. That's fact also. So, when you say Bush attacked an innocent country, well the country was innocent but Sadaam wasn't and the people that I talked to were very happy that he was gone.

But, what would you know, having never paid your country back for what you owe it. There used to be a saying that I heard in Vietnam that I have no idea the origin that goes something like this:

"For those that fight for it, freedom has a flavor that the protected will never taste."
Probably not exact wording, but you get the idea.

Obama uses drones....people seem to like that better than real war but it still kills, it still causes upheaval....

"He's the war-ending President who, as of Tuesday, has ordered airstrikes in seven different countries (that we know of)."

Countries bombed by the U.S. under Obama administration - CNNPolitics.com

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

Hillary and Joe voted in favor of going to the war you are speaking of. At least Congress got to vote on that one, not like Emperor Obama who does what he prefers with executive order bypassing Congress.

In Vietnam? That was a civil war and the US had no reason to be there and yet it cost over 58,000 American lives - and the USA lost.

It's no use. No matter what you say and prove, he is a liberal. There is no chance of reasoning with someone that is totally brainwashed by lies and unethical conduct. National Security means absolutely nothing to them. Morals are based on mythical Bible lore and to be discounted. Ethics? No such thing. Their philosophy is "give the people what they want." Fly now and pay later, or better yet, fly now and send the bill to those that have more than you.

Now this is funny.....His weak when he doesn't attack ISIS aka Syria and I believe the military still in country fighting a war Bush started bombed a hospital.

End of Story

Nice try :censored: Vietnam, another Democrat war. But, great way to change the discussion when you are losing.

Too bad they don't have the draft so that you could pay back the country for your waste.

How many signing statements did Bush sign stating what part of the law he would enforce?

GW Bush issued 291 executive orders during his Presidency
Obama has issued 203 executive orders so far.....

You lose on this one.

And we all know he/she/? is not only liberal but a contrarian liberal....maybe that is a double entente'.

The positions taken are more for effect than intelligence. It has to be because there is no intelligence involved.

As for W going to Europe....I guess if he did not have a camera following him around advertizing his agenda like Obama....that must mean he did not leave the country.......really makes no sense at all but fits whayt has been said in the above sentences.

Like a kid screaming for attention no thought involved just move the lips!! (Obama like)

Hey I all for the draft!!! Check out the D behind my name.

I realize that facts are something we do not like to use but here is the story.

Bush was scheduled to visit Switzerland, I think in 2011 to speak at a Jewish charity event. He canceled the trip because of left wing threats to boycott and demonstrate loudly at the event.

The leftist websites in the country took that and ran with it posting it mostly as an academic question since they had no facts to support their allegations.

It is nothing new and notice that Bush, always being a stand up guy, just kept his mouth shut. And by the way, most of the turmoil had to do with water boarding and NOT Iraq.

It is not the number of executive orders but the content that is relevant.

You know, if I were you I would check on the content of those executive orders. You progressive websites do not share that...they count on folks like you who do not check on the details.

When you do not do that...

" President Obama has issued a form of executive action known as the presidential memorandum more often than any other president in history — using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders.

When these two forms of directives are taken together, Obama is on track to take more high-level executive actions than any president since Harry Truman battled the "Do Nothing Congress" almost seven decades ago, according to a USA TODAY review of presidential documents."

Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

Then please take the time to learn the subject matter of what was in all these executive actions. You will be shocked at the gravity in the Obama moves and the incidental little trite stuff done by Bush.

It is a learning experience.

Are you really that ignorant? Obama is the Commander-in-Chief, the military takes direction from him. What?, Obama takes credit when the military kills Bin Laden, but it is Bush's fault when Obama directs the military to bomb a hospital. You are beyond stupid.

Just when we think we have all the dumbest things folks can make up we get a surprise like this.
I think it does exhibit a serious issue with know anything at all about what is being said.

One step short of a squirrel walking across the keyboard!

This thread is almost sufficient evidence that the intended use of the new political forum has become overwhelmed with total and complete nonsense. And unfortunately, including me, have been sucked in by the baiting and attempting to right the so seriously presented wrongs.

It has degenerated from a political forum, to political entertainment to a waste of time that is no where near anything truly remote to a political discussion.