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Topspinmo 10-09-2015 10:39 AM
Multimodal striping not dead
 
Read on the other news online that another engineering study taking place from the same firm that done the others. So looks like some kind of standard stripping on all the paths may be in the works?

IMO they so need to address the halogen cart lights that blind on coming traffic which IMO more of hazard than no strips. If I can't see nothing all the strips, markers not going to make different?

CFrance 10-09-2015 11:16 AM
Striping. We already went through stripping and found it to be illegal.

bagboy 10-09-2015 01:02 PM
I think what I read was the engineering firm was to recommend where and how certain parts of the MMPs could have "enhanced markings" to improve safety in those areas. Medians and trickier parts were mentioned.

Walter123 10-09-2015 01:12 PM
That's great news!

graciegirl 10-09-2015 01:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1126555)
Striping. We already went through stripping and found it to be illegal.


Thank you. I can only stand so much stripping before dinner.

graciegirl 10-09-2015 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1126610)
I think what I read was the engineering firm was to recommend where and how certain parts of the MMPs could have "enhanced markings" to improve safety in those areas. Medians and trickier parts were mentioned.


If it weren't for folks like you we would be going around with a lot more incorrect information.


I have this nice plaque with a lot of virtues carved into it and one of my favorites is


DISPEL RUMORS.

rubicon 10-09-2015 02:01 PM
Doesn't the edging between the multi-modal path and the grass's edge define the path's line? Even driving on multi-modals paths before sunrise and after sunset the grass's edge clearly outlines the path width . I do agree that there are some angles on the path where reflectors are beneficial in dividing the path lanes of travel but that has to do with dividing the lane in the middle to keep cart drivers in their proper lane of travel. Side stripping is a waste of money and I believe what is driving this is politics and nothing else...that and nonsense about liability issues. So if we need stripping then I am going demand better lighting on all multi-modla paths. I also want better signage warning me of hazards ahead such as the puddling of water of low spots on the paths and tunnels directions, and while were at it signs informing me that pedestrians are in the area as well as cyclists. Further I want neon signs erected above the pathways to alert me both of heavy traffic and approx travel time on the pathway due to traffic/construction problems and further........... Ialso suggest that The Village publish a monthly report of the safest and riskiest times of the day to be driving on the multi-modal pathways

:D:D:D:D

tomwed 10-09-2015 02:49 PM
Couldn't the villagers in favor just add running boards with stripes on top?

dbussone 10-09-2015 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1126670)
Couldn't the villagers in favor just add running boards with stripes on top?

If the stripes were also on the bottom there is a chance the reflection off the MMP might also be helpful.

golfing eagles 10-09-2015 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1126670)
Couldn't the villagers in favor just add running boards with stripes on top?
Better yet, widen the MMPs to 160 feet, 8 lanes in each direction. Three cart lanes: One for legal driving, one for speeders and one for drunks. Two bike lanes: one for normal cycling and one for those who want to "own the lane". Two pedestrian lanes: One for walkers and one for joggers. And one handicap lane for power mobility devices. Then, between center and side striping there would be 9 lines in each direction. Don't forget the markings to designate the lanes. Intersections would be interesting---how about a 9 lane RB---with 18 crossovers and a whole new bunch of driving rules.:a20:

dbussone 10-09-2015 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1126637)
Doesn't the edging between the multi-modal path and the grass's edge define the path's line? Even driving on multi-modals paths before sunrise and after sunset the grass's edge clearly outlines the path width . I do agree that there are some angles on the path where reflectors are beneficial in dividing the path lanes of travel but that has to do with dividing the lane in the middle to keep cart drivers in their proper lane of travel. Side stripping is a waste of money and I believe what is driving this is politics and nothing else...that and nonsense about liability issues. So if we need stripping then I am going demand better lighting on all multi-modla paths. I also want better signage warning me of hazards ahead such as the puddling of water of low spots on the paths and tunnels directions, and while were at it signs informing me that pedestrians are in the area as well as cyclists. Further I want neon signs erected above the pathways to alert me both of heavy traffic and approx travel time on the pathway due to traffic/construction problems and further........... Ialso suggest that The Village publish a monthly report of the safest and riskiest times of the day to be driving on the multi-modal pathways



:D:D:D:D

Dog gone rubicon - excellent ideas. And I'd be willing, along with thousands of others, to see our monthly fees increased by at least $100 in support.
:) :)

golfing eagles 10-09-2015 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1126684)
Dog gone rubicon - excellent ideas. And I'd be willing, along with thousands of others, to see our monthly fees increased by at least $100 in support.
:) :)
The sad part is---we do this on highways. I'd love to know what each one of those useless electronic signs, the ones that tell you 3 hour old news, cost.
In an older thread I added up the cost of those little every 1/10 mile markers and it was in the billions.

dbussone 10-09-2015 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1126689)
The sad part is---we do this on highways. I'd love to know what each one of those useless electronic signs, the ones that tell you 3 hour old news, cost.

In an older thread I added up the cost of those little every 1/10 mile markers and it was in the billions.

Makes me tired just thinking of counting that high. How old were you when you started.?

golfing eagles 10-09-2015 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1126694)
Makes me tired just thinking of counting that high. How old were you when you started.?
Ever see the Star Trek original series episode "Requiem for Methuselah"?

dbussone 10-09-2015 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1126696)
Ever see the Star Trek original series episode "Requiem for Methuselah"?

Got it!

Topspinmo 10-09-2015 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1126682)
Better yet, widen the MMPs to 160 feet, 8 lanes in each direction. Three cart lanes: One for legal driving, one for speeders and one for drunks. Two bike lanes: one for normal cycling and one for those who want to "own the lane". Two pedestrian lanes: One for walkers and one for joggers. And one handicap lane for power mobility devices. Then, between center and side striping there would be 9 lines in each direction. Don't forget the markings to designate the lanes. Intersections would be interesting---how about a 9 lane RB---with 18 crossovers and a whole new bunch of driving rules.:a20:
I want concrete barriers also:oops:

Topspinmo 10-09-2015 04:57 PM
If you read the news source the engineering firm getting another $6500 to restudy the study:jester:

golfing eagles 10-09-2015 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1126719)
Got it!
Good. It was a bit esoteric, sort of mimicking Dennis Miller

golfing eagles 10-09-2015 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1126736)
I want concrete barriers also:oops:
I also want mileage markers every 1/10 mile

billethkid 10-09-2015 06:12 PM
:pray:

:popcorn::popcorn:

rubicon 10-10-2015 05:28 AM
I am afraid that whether its federal ,state or a CDD a politician by any other name is a politician.....and there is no end to what a politician will spend of other people's money. A dime here a dime there and pretty soon you are going to be talking about serious money and forget any budget stopgaps measures another $6500 fee because some CDD politician didn't like the first answer s/he got from these engineers. No justice no peace

mulligan 10-10-2015 06:02 AM
I would gladly pay more for rest areas every 1/2 mile or so with bathrooms, a dog walk area, picnic tables, and maybe a little shack with a bar with all day happy hours.

sammy8duck 10-10-2015 07:01 AM
I have read through the many posts on side striping and can not find answers to some questions: 1) Will the side striping be applled on the pavement (as opposed to the side curbing) 2) Is the striping slippery, both when wet and when dry?
I am a bicycle rider and feel the trails must serve everyone. The cost of the striping is not an issue to me but my safety is.

tomwed 10-10-2015 07:24 AM
mleeja wrote a while back
it sounds slippery

The stripping being discussed would be about the thickness of three sheets of paper. I doubt this would even be noticed in a cart, bike or walking. One of the drawbacks of the thermoplastic is when being replaced, it would need to be removed. One would not just put down another layer on top of the old.

However, thermoplastic will last much longer than paint and may be less expensive in the long term. This is what the district was commissioned to determine as the next step.

outlaw 10-10-2015 09:11 AM
Why do people have so much trouble learning how to spell striping?

golfing eagles 10-10-2015 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1126945)
Why do people have so much trouble learning how to spell striping?
Freudian slips.

BobnBev 10-10-2015 09:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1126637)
Doesn't the edging between the multi-modal path and the grass's edge define the path's line? Even driving on multi-modals paths before sunrise and after sunset the grass's edge clearly outlines the path width . I do agree that there are some angles on the path where reflectors are beneficial in dividing the path lanes of travel but that has to do with dividing the lane in the middle to keep cart drivers in their proper lane of travel. Side stripping is a waste of money and I believe what is driving this is politics and nothing else...that and nonsense about liability issues. So if we need stripping then I am going demand better lighting on all multi-modla paths. I also want better signage warning me of hazards ahead such as the puddling of water of low spots on the paths and tunnels directions, and while were at it signs informing me that pedestrians are in the area as well as cyclists. Further I want neon signs erected above the pathways to alert me both of heavy traffic and approx travel time on the pathway due to traffic/construction problems and further........... Ialso suggest that The Village publish a monthly report of the safest and riskiest times of the day to be driving on the multi-modal pathways

:D:D:D:D
Perhaps we could join the MMPs' with the Interstate Highway System. I could drive my cart to Kalifornia, stopping at Denver to score some "grass".

George Bieniaszek 10-10-2015 09:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1126682)
Better yet, widen the MMPs to 160 feet, 8 lanes in each direction. Three cart lanes: One for legal driving, one for speeders and one for drunks. Two bike lanes: one for normal cycling and one for those who want to "own the lane". Two pedestrian lanes: One for walkers and one for joggers. And one handicap lane for power mobility devices. Then, between center and side striping there would be 9 lines in each direction. Don't forget the markings to designate the lanes. Intersections would be interesting---how about a 9 lane RB---with 18 crossovers and a whole new bunch of driving rules.:a20:
I would like to add an additional lane for persons riding Segways, hoverboards, roller blades, and in-line skates! :1rotfl:

outlaw 10-10-2015 09:31 AM
Saw a motor scooter the other day coming out of a tunnel. Well, they do call it multi modal...be careful what you ask for. Let's see; go ka rt, horse and buggy, off road motorcycle, radio control cars, golf cart with boat trailer, four wheeler, motorized skate board. The options are endless.

tomwed 10-10-2015 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1126945)
Why do people have so much trouble learning how to spell striping?
"When you’re proof reading, you are trying to trick your brain into pretending that it’s reading the thing for the first time. Stafford suggests that if you want to catch your own errors, you should try to make your work as unfamiliar as possible. Change the font or background color, or print it out and edit by hand. “Once you’ve learned something in a particular way, it’s hard to see the details without changing the visual form,” he said."

FROM What’s Up With That: Why It’s So Hard to Catch Your Own Typos
What's Up With That: Why It's So Hard to Catch Your Own Typos | WIRED

outlaw 10-10-2015 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1126971)
"When you’re proof reading, you are trying to trick your brain into pretending that it’s reading the thing for the first time. Stafford suggests that if you want to catch your own errors, you should try to make your work as unfamiliar as possible. Change the font or background color, or print it out and edit by hand. “Once you’ve learned something in a particular way, it’s hard to see the details without changing the visual form,” he said."

FROM What’s Up With That: Why It’s So Hard to Catch Your Own Typos
What's Up With That: Why It's So Hard to Catch Your Own Typos | WIRED
One post had "stripping" 3 or 4 times. Hardly a typo.

tomwed 10-10-2015 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1126974)
One post had "stripping" 3 or 4 times. Hardly a typo.
It could have been AOUTOCORRECT. Change one word and they all change the same way. There's a lot of funny auto-correct examples out there that are easy to find.

CFrance 10-10-2015 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1126974)
One post had "stripping" 3 or 4 times. Hardly a typo.
You're having a logic attack, outlaw.

golfing eagles 10-10-2015 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Bieniaszek (Post 1126964)
I would like to add an additional lane for persons riding Segways, hoverboards, roller blades, and in-line skates! :1rotfl:
Then we could add another lane, dug down 6 feet with a liner, fill it with water for the lap swimmers

tomwed 10-10-2015 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1127025)
Then we could add another lane, dug down 6 feet with a liner, fill it with water for the lap swimmers
And in the winter the Global Warming Deniers could skate on it.

looneycat 10-10-2015 11:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1126949)
Freudian slips.
wouldn't that be freudian slipps? :1rotfl:

golfing eagles 10-10-2015 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1127038)
wouldn't that be freudian slipps? :1rotfl:
:BigApplause:

good one!

graciegirl 10-10-2015 11:30 AM
There will be a multimodal path stripping party Tonight at the lookout point on the Morse Bridge. Wear sunglasses so you won't be recognized.

golfing eagles 10-10-2015 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1127045)
There will be a multimodal path stripping party Tonight at the lookout point on the Morse Bridge. Wear sunglasses so you won't be recognized.
Unless you a recognizable by your "other parts" :1rotfl:

Mleeja 10-10-2015 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1127033)
And in the winter the Global Warming Deniers could skate on it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1127025)
Then we could add another lane, dug down 6 feet with a liner, fill it with water for the lap swimmers
If you are ice skating on these lanes in central Florida, then all the Global Warming Deniers are correct! chilout


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