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Guest 09-10-2008 12:21 PM

OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
DID YOU HEAR HIS LATEST REMARK PIGS WEAR LIPSTICK TO
I COULDN'T BELIEVE A POLITICIAN WOULD LOWER HIMSELF TO THAT LEVEL

Guest 09-10-2008 01:05 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg The video. :edit:

Guest 09-10-2008 01:08 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
I believe the comment was aimed at the more general position of more of the same...i.e. the pig being Bush policy.
However the pre meditated ambiguity that flows over to Palin is as apparent as let's say daylight in the daytime.

BTK

Guest 09-10-2008 01:08 PM

McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
Obama responded to the use of "lipstick" after, I say after, McCain And Sarah used the remark 1st, Watch this..... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rlN3Jp...watch_response Then sarahcudda says ....... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5vgTc1CvBSU check the facts 1st! By The Way It Is WEAR lipstick not WHERE LOL NOW WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??

Guest 09-10-2008 01:13 PM

Re: McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
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Obama responded to the use of "lipstick" after, I say after, McCain And Sarah used the remark 1st, Watch this..... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rlN3Jp...watch_response Then sarahcudda says ....... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5vgTc1CvBSU check the facts 1st! By The Way It Is WEAR lipstick not WHERE LOL NOW WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??

McCains remarks were referring to the health care plan she proposed. Hussein's remarks were referring to Palin.

Hahahahaha - I think this is AWESOME! Please please please Obama camp, come up with more quotes like this and you will be sure to lose this election by a landslide!

Guest 09-10-2008 01:18 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
So it is OK for McCain to use this old old quote, but not Obama? Give me a break! It was his rebuke of Sarahcudda calling herself a pitbull with lipstick! She kills wolves also! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEDlj3CNmn8

Guest 09-10-2008 01:19 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/rnr/834696060.html This seems to be a Republican based dig.

Guest 09-10-2008 01:27 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/rnr/834696060.html This seems to be a Republican based dig.

Thanks Tal! Thought they could get away without this coming up?? FOOLISH!

Guest 09-10-2008 01:31 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
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Thanks Tal! Thought they could get away without this coming up?? FOOLISH!


Great Job Tal and Ronda..!!!

Guest 09-10-2008 02:02 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
There will be people who take any comment too seriously. Comments made even in jest have a way of backfiring. All to often, the speaker interprets his/her remarks very conservatively, and the listener interprets the remark very liberally. That's the fault of language, especially one so filled with nuances and double-meanings as English.

The same thing has happened on both sides of the table, so one side should not get self-righteous and both have been guilty at one time or another - and will be again and again.

We should be adult enough and smart enough to ignore noise for noise sake.

Guest 09-10-2008 02:40 PM

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There will be people who take any comment too seriously. Comments made even in jest have a way of backfiring. All to often, the speaker interprets his/her remarks very conservatively, and the listener interprets the remark very liberally. That's the fault of language, especially one so filled with nuances and double-meanings as English.

The same thing has happened on both sides of the table, so one side should not get self-righteous and both have been guilty at one time or another - and will be again and again.

We should be adult enough and smart enough to ignore noise for noise sake.

WOW!!! Steve I agree with you 100%. I think this thread is dead in the water!!!

Guest 09-10-2008 02:54 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
I really don't think Obama was referring to Palin. The people sitting behind him I think did. They were laughing up a storm. I don't think it was smart of him to use the term, since it was just used in Palin's acceptance speech. It was to easy for detractors to jump on it.

Guest 09-10-2008 02:56 PM

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I really don't think Obama was referring to Palin. The people sitting behind him I think did. They were laughing up a storm. I don't think it was smart of him to use the term, since it was just used in Palin's acceptance speech. It was to easy for detractors to jump on it.

And it accomplished it's intention.... Why would ANYONE want to run for office?

Guest 09-10-2008 04:16 PM

Re: McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
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McCains remarks were referring to the health care plan she proposed. Hussein's remarks were referring to Palin.

Hahahahaha - I think this is AWESOME! Please please please Obama camp, come up with more quotes like this and you will be sure to lose this election by a landslide!

I'm confused...who is Hussein?

Guest 09-10-2008 04:22 PM

Re: McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
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I'm confused...who is Hussein?

Well that was a SLAM against Obama! It is his middle name....and many people have issues with it as it sounds "too Muslim"....

Barrack Hussein Obama....his father was of Muslim decent...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612200005

Guest 09-10-2008 05:04 PM

Re: McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
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Obama responded to the use of "lipstick" after, I say after, McCain And Sarah used the remark 1st, Watch this..... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rlN3Jp...watch_response Then sarahcudda says ....... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5vgTc1CvBSU check the facts 1st! By The Way It Is WEAR lipstick not WHERE LOL NOW WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?? THANKS TEACH I CHANGED IT TO WEAR I GUESS I SHOULD'T POST WHEN I FIRST GET UP AND I F YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS I CAN'T HELP YOU


Guest 09-10-2008 06:30 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
He is doing it again today. His researchers come up with a neat saying like pigs/lipstick, knowing the Republicans will respond and they have the counter attack ready for him on his so called high ground. There are two dump aspects....one he thinks we believe his high ground position...the second, the Republicans being dumb enough to take the bait.

It's a game...they take turns winning and losing a daily skirmish....we don't get a turn...we just lose because they are burning time and money and we as voters learn nothing.

BTK

Guest 09-10-2008 06:38 PM

Re: McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
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Well that was a SLAM against Obama! It is his middle name....and many people have issues with it as it sounds "too Muslim"....

Barrack Hussein Obama....his father was of Muslim decent...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612200005

It's not a slam? It IS his middle name. People often refer to our current President as "Dubya".

Guest 09-10-2008 06:43 PM

Re: McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
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It's not a slam? It IS his middle name. People often refer to our current President as "Dubya".

Please don't insult my intelligence....Fox Noise started this and it is intended to make people think he is a Muslim.

Guest 09-10-2008 10:22 PM

Re: McCain 1st to say lipstick on pig!
 
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It's not a slam? It IS his middle name. People often refer to our current President as "Dubya".


I have NEVER heard of anyone other than stout PITA republicans call him that....and they make it sound like a SLAM....perhaps you are just rare.....I am hoping that is the case.....by the way....my middle name is Cecilia.....and it is very rare that anyone calls me that!

Guest 09-10-2008 10:34 PM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
Just a comment. I would doubt that anyone will vote for or against anyone because of their middle name. Having said that....it is NOT UNUSUAL at all to call Presidents and candidates with three given names....

Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton
President George Walker Bush
President William Jefferson Clinton
President George Herber Walker Bush
President James Earl Carter,
and so on...we all have heard these and others...

His name is Barrack Hussein Obama.....we americans are sensitive to that name and it was used by a right wing radio host that had the Obama campaign yelling foul...havent heard it much but unless he changes his name...that is it and if he wins, I assume as in the past it will be used at the oath of office.

I cannot imagine anyone ever using this as a reason to support or not support !

Guest 09-11-2008 03:11 AM

How About Some Agreement To End This Nonsense?
 
1. "Lipstick on pigs" has been a commonly-used description of disingenuous statements for decades.

2. Both of the current candidates have used this statement on several occasions in their campaigns.

3. Anyone who took the time to listen to the way Obama used the statement--which was in the same way that John McCain has used it in the past, by the way--could easily conclude that it was not intended to apply to any person, certainly not Sarah Palin.

4. The country has spent an entire 24-hour news cycle discussing and debating this absolutely meaningless issue.

How about getting back to the issues of health care, fiscal policy, education, the economy...stuff that really IS important?

Guest 09-11-2008 03:22 AM

Re: OBAMA HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
 
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Posted by Guest
Just a comment. I would doubt that anyone will vote for or against anyone because of their middle name. Having said that....it is NOT UNUSUAL at all to call Presidents and candidates with three given names....

Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton
President George Walker Bush
President William Jefferson Clinton
President George Herber Walker Bush
President James Earl Carter,
and so on...we all have heard these and others...

His name is Barrack Hussein Obama.....we americans are sensitive to that name and it was used by a right wing radio host that had the Obama campaign yelling foul...havent heard it much but unless he changes his name...that is it and if he wins, I assume as in the past it will be used at the oath of office.

I cannot imagine anyone ever using this as a reason to support or not support !

However you wouldnt refer to Hillary as Rodham....or anyone of those people.....they have put their names out there.....wanting to be known and referred to by those names......

When have you ever heard anyone call him Husseim other than someone bashing him and his roots.....


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