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kittygilchrist 10-23-2015 01:35 AM

Urban Coyotes
 
Coyote roaming East Arlington neighborhood | News - Home

graciegirl 10-23-2015 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1133883)



I know that my awareness has been raised. This appears to be a widespread problem.


Kitty...what do you think is the answer?

virgind 10-23-2015 07:11 AM

Shoot em

jimbo2012 10-23-2015 07:19 AM

Why what did they ever do to you?

graciegirl 10-23-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1133918)
Why what did they ever do to you?



Being sort of a moderate person and a card carrying carnivore, I don't oppose when wild animals get out of control having to eliminate them, such as the bears in Volusia County.


Yes they did live there and now people live there.


Very much love domestic pets and feel that our lives are better for them. But I do eat meat and feel my species is programmed to do that.

Mark me down as a hunter gatherer. (At Publix and Winn-Dixie)

Villager Joyce 10-23-2015 08:45 AM

I can't wait for the day when there isnt a coyote story.

kittygilchrist 10-23-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1133948)
Being sort of a moderate person and a card carrying carnivore, I don't oppose when wild animals get out of control having to eliminate them, such as the bears in Volusia County.


Yes they did live there and now people live there.


Very much love domestic pets and feel that our lives are better for them. But I do eat meat and feel my species is programmed to do that.

Mark me down as a hunter gatherer. (At Publix and Winn-Dixie)

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/porta...Lsh0VAXWczqE!/

Have not had time to absorb all this site...thought you might want to see it, Grace.

tomwed 10-23-2015 09:27 AM

Assuming a coyote does not get caught by an alligator are they at the top of the 4 legged food chain in The Villages?
Do they have any natural predators where we live?

Taltarzac725 10-23-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1133948)
Being sort of a moderate person and a card carrying carnivore, I don't oppose when wild animals get out of control having to eliminate them, such as the bears in Volusia County.


Yes they did live there and now people live there.


Very much love domestic pets and feel that our lives are better for them. But I do eat meat and feel my species is programmed to do that.

Mark me down as a hunter gatherer. (At Publix and Winn-Dixie)

I sure would not fit well in with the mountain or swamp men having to catch, kill, gut, skin, etc., their food. Give me Crsipers, Wal-Mart, Winn-Dixie and Publix any old day even if the same kind of stuff happens to the food there at some point in its journeys to the shelves.

If there is a bobcat and/or coyote in a separate neighborhood doing damage to local pets, then if it can be identified as the killer of these pets, I do think it should be killed in as humane way as possible. I would be against just eradicating the coyotes in the Villages.

tomwed 10-23-2015 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1133948)
Being sort of a moderate person and a card carrying carnivore, I don't oppose when wild animals get out of control having to eliminate them, such as the bears in Volusia County.


Yes they did live there and now people live there.


Very much love domestic pets and feel that our lives are better for them. But I do eat meat and feel my species is programmed to do that.

Mark me down as a hunter gatherer. (At Publix and Winn-Dixie)

These are called Gunthers. We meet once a month at the Slice and Dice Diner in Huntington. Each meeting starts out with a little ditty:

She's a Gunther.
I'm a Gunther.
Wouldn't you want to be a Gunther to?

Than we all share a pot of Hungarian Goulash made with imported goulashes.

tomwed 10-23-2015 10:00 AM

What attracts coyotes to your neighborhood?
Coyotes are attracted to neighborhoods due to the
availability of garbage, pet food and even pets, which
coyotes see as prey. The following list illustrates some
of the attractants that draw coyotes close to people.
Remove these attractants to discourage coyotes from
visiting your property:
■ Outdoor pet food or water
■ Birdseed or food sources that attract small mammals
■Accessible garbage or compost
■ Fallen fruit or berries from trees or shrubs
■ Shrubs, woodpiles, decks or any other structure that can
provide cover or be used as a den

this was from kitty's link

Everything I've read says don't put your trash out the night before. People do that all the time down here yet bags are not being torn up like crazy like the raccoons would do where I lived. So either we don't have a problem now and may never have a problem or we will have a problem soon. What's easier than shredding a plastic bag with a cooked chicken carcass inside that must be very easy to smell for a cunning coyote?

I don't get it.

golfing eagles 10-23-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1134021)
These are called Gunthers. We meet once a month at the Slice and Dice Diner in Huntington. Each meeting starts out with a little ditty:

She's a Gunther.
I'm a Gunther.
Wouldn't you want to be a Gunther to?

Than we all share a pot of Hungarian Goulash made with imported goulashes.

Day and time???---count me in:1rotfl:

kittygilchrist 10-23-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1133978)
I can't wait for the day when there isnt a coyote story.

There has yet to be a coyote thread without attempted censorship.

'St. Pete has officially gone to the coyotes' - Story | FOX 13 Tampa Bay

Villager Joyce 10-23-2015 12:11 PM

Who is censoring?

kittygilchrist 10-23-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1134095)
Who is censoring?

I meant
Attempted suppression...You do not wish this thread were not here?
Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe you wish the coyote problem was not real?
Please clarify.

tomwed 10-23-2015 12:28 PM

Not that anyone asked, but it makes no difference to me if there is a coyote thread running all the time.

I just wish more people would start threads on different topics or present their interests too. Sure it takes research and effort and maybe some thicker skin but I think it's part of the deal when you join TOTV. Every now and than start a new thread.

Chi-Town 10-23-2015 12:33 PM

When reading the numerous coyote threads does one look at it as kahy-oht or kahy-oh-tee. I heard it pronounced as kahy-oht in the Midwest, but I say kahy-oh-tee as in Wile E. Coyote.

Villager Joyce 10-23-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1134096)
I meant
Attempted suppression...You do not wish this thread were not here?
Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe you wish the coyote problem was not real?
Please clarify.

A little of all of the above. Over and over and over again doesn't fix anything. What dud you hope to accomplish when you started this thread?

gerryann 10-23-2015 12:54 PM

Some posters just want to drill the coyote issue into our brains. We know they're out there, we know we have to be very cautious with our pets, we know not to leave our cats on the lanai. They are here, as are the alligators, bob cats, etc. We moved here for many reasons, I for one love the wild life. I know to be cautious and aware of my surroundings, especially when walking my dog. But, starting another thread to hash it all over again.....really??

CFrance 10-23-2015 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1133948)
Being sort of a moderate person and a card carrying carnivore, I don't oppose when wild animals get out of control having to eliminate them, such as the bears in Volusia County.


Yes they did live there and now people live there.


Very much love domestic pets and feel that our lives are better for them. But I do eat meat and feel my species is programmed to do that.

Mark me down as a hunter gatherer. (At Publix and Winn-Dixie)

Do you have a good recipe for coyote, Gracie? I can't imagine eating one just because our species is programmed to eat meat.

I agree with Tal. Eliminate the ones who are caught causing a problem, and learn to live with the rest. Just like we do with the alligators. After coyotes, there will be something else.

East Arlington, Ohio, is a helluva long way away from TV. I just don't see how bringing all these out-of-area incidences does anything but incite.

tomwed 10-23-2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1134106)
When reading the numerous coyote threads does one look at it as kahy-oht or kahy-oh-tee. I heard it pronounced as kahy-oht in the Midwest, but I say kahy-oh-tee as in Wile E. Coyote.

I hate to profile but when I'm with strangers and the subject of coyotes comes up and they pronounce it kahy-oht, I assume their experience goes beyond Beep Beep.

That's where I was until this subject got a lot of attention and links.

Barefoot 10-23-2015 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1133978)
I can't wait for the day when there isnt a coyote story.

:agree: We are all being more careful now. Our awareness has been raised sufficiently. In my opinion, more stories are just fear mongering.
There are NOT packs of killer coyotes roaming the streets looking for trouble.
As long as people are sensible, I believe they have nothing to fear.
Sensible to me means "Keep your cats indoors, never let them outside the house and don't leave them on the lanai overnight".
"Dogs should always be on a leash. Don't walk your dog at night near a wildlife preserve or a golf course, especially unleashed."
After dark, you may want to carry a noisemaker and/or a stick if you're nervous.
Take good care to keep your pets safe, they're depending on you.

Chi-Town 10-23-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1134128)
I hate to profile but when I'm with strangers and subject of coyotes comes up and they pronounce it kahy-oht, I assume their experience goes beyond Beep Beep.

That's where I was until this subject got a lot of attention and links.

lm so torn I'm just going with prairie wolf from now on. [emoji6]

golfing eagles 10-23-2015 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1134119)
We moved here for many reasons, I for one love the wild life.

Sorry, can't resist. I used to love the wild life, but now I'm more sedate :1rotfl:

gerryann 10-23-2015 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1134143)
Sorry, can't resist. I used to love the wild life, but now I'm more sedate :1rotfl:

I go back and forth....every once in a while the wild takes over.

" wild thang, you make my heart sing "

gap2415 10-23-2015 01:43 PM

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We now live in an age where animals can be hunted to extinction or have a right to life depending on the stories we tell ourselves and the level of our compassion.

We are not very good stewards of the earth.

Taltarzac725 10-23-2015 01:47 PM

I would like more posts about cougars myself. :1rotfl: Much more interesting. :ho:

gerryann 10-23-2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1134168)
I would like more posts about cougars myself. :1rotfl: Much more interesting. :ho:

I'm told the two legged ones are way more dangerous than the four legged ones.

golfing eagles 10-23-2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1134171)
I'm told the two legged ones are way more dangerous than the four legged ones.

about 100 times more dangerous:1rotfl:

tomwed 10-23-2015 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap2415 (Post 1134165)
We are not very good stewards of the earth.

But we make excellent Root Beer.

Moderator 10-23-2015 04:28 PM

Normally, we delete threads that start with a "link only" ... we expect the OP to offer some original content, question, or make a point. This thread "got legs" with a number of replies before we got to it, so, we let it run....for now.

Moderator

kittygilchrist 10-23-2015 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 1134258)
Normally, we delete threads that start with a "link only" ... we expect the OP to offer some original content, question, or make a point. This thread "got legs" with a number of replies before we got to it, so, we let it run....for now.

Moderator

Thanks for the grace. Most of the folks who started out fighting coyote threads are still fighting them, but most are obviously better informed than at the outset.

We are facing a problem that is changing our "paradise" lifestyle, that turns relaxed retirement into tense alertness, that promises by all other communites that have been this route to bring human vs coyote conflicts.

The link posted was news because it highlights another Florida community waking up to smell the coyotes.

tomwed 10-23-2015 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1134311)
We are facing a problem that is changing our "paradise" lifestyle, that turns relaxed retirement into tense alertness, that promises by all other communites that have been this route to bring human vs coyote conflict.

I don't mean to hurt any feelings or burn any bridges but when you say "we" that implies you are speaking for everyone.

kittygilchrist 10-23-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed;113***8
I don't mean to hurt any feelings or burn any bridges but when you say "we" that implies you are speaking for everyone.

I say we because none of us are outside the community. If you feel ok with living with coyotes, making a case for it will facilitate discussion.

tomwed 10-23-2015 07:53 PM

It's not so black and white.

Is my paradise gone?
Are we all tense?
Are we all alert"

Most people that live here are unaware of the coyote situation. Otherwise why would they put their trash out the night before?

This is not a global warming wake up call.

parthree 10-23-2015 10:01 PM

Wild Life?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1134119)
Some posters just want to drill the coyote issue into our brains. We know they're out there, we know we have to be very cautious with our pets, we know not to leave our cats on the lanai. They are here, as are the alligators, bob cats, etc. We moved here for many reasons, I for one love the wild life. I know to be cautious and aware of my surroundings, especially when walking my dog. But, starting another thread to hash it all over again.....really??

Really, "...wild life" as in a rip-roaring good time, or did you mean "wildlife" as in fauna...? Just sayin.:popcorn:


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