Ben Carson and it goes on and on
 

Politico reported Friday that Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson did not — as he has claimed repeatedly — receive a full scholarship to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

In fact, Carson’s campaign admitted that not only was the former neurosurgeon not accepted into the prestigious military academy, but he never actually applied. This concession came after Politico obtained evidence from a West Point spokesperson that the academy has no record of Carson’s application or his admission — calling into question a key piece of the presidential hopeful’s personal history.

This is what, the THIRD THREAD on this one subject ?????????

1. Too bad there was not as much interest into the past of our President in 2007/2008 as for Ben Carson who will not get the nomination and never had much of a chance.

2. Too bad there is not this much interest on this forum when a thread on Syria, Iran or real topics confronting this world. I suppose THREE threads on talking about this guy speaks to the kind of posters we have, hey ?

I think the problem here is people like you that are so republican blind that nothing will change you mind about voting otherwise. Go back and see Obama was scrutinized. If Hitler was running as a republican you would vote for him.

Hitler IS running as a Democrat.....or is that Hilary....same difference.

You liberals are so blind, that you believe a report without investigating it. Politico has already changed that story on Carson three times and is walking it back.

So, Carson embellishes in a book and you label him a liar. OK. Don't vote for him. Hilary lies consistently and you worship her. She lied when she allowed four people in Benghazi get killed. She stood there and lied to the parents, right to their faces. And you worship her. And yet, you have the audacity to claim Republicans are biased? Of course we are. WE can recognize evil when we see it. We have had two terms of it and hope to make it through the end of the second term with America still intact.

What other option is there? Hillary Clinton? She is a known liar and self-serving elitist who is under criminal investigation by the FBI.

Whomever you are, you sure are uninformed. It is not worth it to revisit all the controversery surrounding the media and what was NOT reported on President Obama, but start with Bill Ayers. He, and the party, loudly said he only met this man and his wife Doran, both terrorists. YET after the election it was found how close they really were. Obama had covered the fact that Doran had worked with Michelle at a law firm and he failed to mention that fact while he was saying how he did not know these folks. Media ignored it in 2007 and 2008. You need to read about Ayers to understand this importance.

The media tried to kill the Rev Wright stuff and it took over a year...over a year for the mainstream media to even report that Obama's mentor was preaching hate of white people and that Obama thought of him as a mentor, advisor and friend.

There are a lot more, but obviously you have no idea so best just to let it to...no sense in unearthing that stuff again.

I also find it ironic that someone who is obviously a democrat would even suggest "so republican blind that nothing will change you mind about voting otherwise."

The Democratic party takes great and loud pride in how they can get out the vote, but them in, etc and they will vote how they are told. It is a democratic tradition actually. They are world famous for that, and to even suggest such a thing with Hillary Clinton going to be at the top of your ticket is actually quite funny. This is a woman who has multiple books written about her EVIL, not accomplishments. This is a woman who has never denied any of those allegations. This is a woman who has been bashed by secret service folks, not only in Washington but in Arkansas. No you are not even close to firm ground, but again it is a democratic tradition to not care about character.

Well, deflection is in full swing, the Obamas, Hillary, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and his wife, that democrat Hitler, Benghazi, and the FBI. Same old.

"If Hitler was running as a republican you would vote for him."
Great line and how true.

I was not deflecting. Nothing to deselect.

I was simply defending myself from a standard democratic mock about voting for Hitler.

It is, for some reason, an obsession for democrats.

Frankly, if you are able to read, NO...NO....NO (and now I say a very few) democrats or liberals EVER..EVER post on the issues of the day. From ISIS to the Iran deal to Syria or whatever the issue, EVERY DEMOCRAT on this forum will eventually go for the attack on character with the curptsey little sayings.

No....I stand ready to debate on this forum any issue facing this country. I challenge democrats or liberals to do the same without a personal attack on either the poster or some candidate.

No need for any deflection at all. You come on here and say Carson has no shot, and I might agree with that, but after you people say he has no shot, you spend your time on here ignoring everything but jump on any thread that attacks some one, ignore the lunacy that is the media, and start with your Hitler nuances.

How about you people post on the threads concerning Syria, Iran, Isis, economy, anything.......nope....seems if you cannot attack another person who registers another party, then you are silent..totally silent.

I am not deflecting in anyway......you want to use Hitler analogies. Go through the various topic driven threads...here is what you will find..either no comment or a change to attack another.

That is just the way you do it. Not just words, YOUR TOTAL SILENCE ON ISSUE DRIVEN THREADS is startling. YOUR RABID, CHILDISH and almost joyful participation in those thread attacking a person is clear.

BUT, your use of those cute little icons is just so cute and heartwarming.

Amazing how the liberal media and news sources will cruify black republician, but let's know lair's, racists, and socialists walk on water.

Carson is gaining in the polls. The liberal media will dig up anything to cruify him, Lilly white halo b itch gets free pass. Amazing

I would bet the Christian Evangelicals of Iowa will be taking these lies of Ben Carson in and remembering them on the Caucus votes.

They do not forget or forgive.

No, Evangelicals will still come to Benny since he seems sincere about being Christian.

The main stream Republicans are going to leave Benny in droves with his lies about West Point and the stories about being a violent youth.

By the way, Benny didn't apparently know the entire education is free at West Point. No such thing as a "full scholarship" there since no cadet pays anything.

Also, Benny made references in his book to Congressional Medal of Honor "winners". Wrong again, Benny. They are recepients!

Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? You should really refrain from posting such nonsense on a public forum. So sad ....

Having a conversation with yourself again?

Does Dr. Carson bother you? Were you EVER intending to vote for anyone other than a Socialist? Give it a break and let the adults converse.

Wow we are really bottom feeding. Hillary said she landed under fire while visiting a middle east area. Not so. Obama said he would cut our national debt in half. Not so. There have been numerous fibs and misrepresentations by every candidate in every political position in every election ever held. So now that they are all on a somewhat level field regarding this let us look into their qualifications to be President. And don't tell me that Obama was more qualified than Carson or any other candidate when he first ran. A community organizer and a short short uneventful time in Congress is certainly not superior to any a candidate running now. So whats left. The intelligence and common sense of a candidate. This becomes a personal decision for each of us. Let us all try to make this decision without this unfortunate bottom feeding.

Just another racist hater! (Taken directly from the Democrat play book.)

Seems like you're confused about the vetting process of someone running for President of the United States.

I actually thought I totally understood that vetting process; I really and truly did.

Then I watched in 2007 and 2008 important things which had to do with background be not only ignored, but NEVER discussed. Ok, that's over.

Now we have candidates on both sides that need vetting, and we focus on Ben Carson, and what appears to be an exaggeration in his book while we ignore others of more import.

I am not a Carson fan, by any stretch, but he is a good, honest man who is being ripped apart, while the media has a love fest with candidates that they approve us.

We have a candidate who according to Black Lives Matter embraces their cause and all they stand for: this candidate has publicly and privately endorsed them. They, and their founders are avowed anarchists. Why is this not vetted ?

We have another candidate who has obviously intimidarpted the media, and they instead of vetting report on him as if he were a realty show.

We have another canidate who is an avowed socialist and proud of it, and he seldom is asked about that leaning.

I am in no way confused about vetting. There must have been a meeting in 2007 where they changed the rules, and we now as voters must do our own vetting.

The Carson media outburst embarrasses me as someone who cares about character. Hearing this incident become THE incident when there are canidates on both sides who have much larger items to vetting is simply embarrassing.

He said this in his book; have any of you even read the books of the other canidates ? Have any of you ever then read the lies told in those books ?

Do not lecture me on vetting please

There are words for folks who would post something like this. I, as an adult, do not use such words, so allow me to simply extend pity to you and hope your hatred fades soon. You obviously are either uninformed or have your head in the sand.

What was said that was untrue? Benny is a nickname for Ben. Nothing hateful nor racist.

Look at all the racist names that you and your Tea Party cohorts have called President Obama. Shame on you!

Actually the Gentleman or Lady is Republican aware! Being as we were raised to take responsibility for ourselves and our actions we cannot afford to wander aimlessly while waiting for our next ebt refill!!!! :spoken::laugh:

1. I am not a member of the Tea Party/

2. Do you have any idea how silly, immature and downright stupid you and your cronies sound with all the Tea Party talk ? You totally manifest ignorance with that constant stream.

3. You really think that people on here do not recognize posters ? Again, you manifest ignorance and try to be coy.

4. The fact that you find your post acceptable simply makes my point.

I Can Day Dream Can't I?
 

I can daydream can't I about the possibility that the electorate would all get wise and refuse to go along with any politician who is being less than honest with them.

Those addicted to a politicians kool- aide have to first admit they have a problem that being gullible or perhaps misguided into believing that not facing up to the facts is only hurting them.

If a politician lies, commits an unlawful act, exaggerates, makes promises that s/he cannot possible keep, falsifies information, etc as voters we all need to call them out and tell them we can't and won't be fool As voters we can then decide if the degree and nature of the act(s) are serious enough to eliminate he/she from consideration.

but we won't because partisan voters bought into the canard of winning at all costs. but inning at all costs have serious consequences: to wit Obama disastrous seven years.

Progressives want to crucify Rubio for his personal finances but ignore the Clinton's charitable foundation, white water, cattle futures, etc and in fact defend their position. Its shear madness and coupled with clinton's placing this nation at great security risk because she chose to use a personal server its criminal negligence

Personal Best Regards:

Three thoughtful well written paragraphs. Then the urge to bloviate took over. Too bad.

Depends on who you are.

I thought the last two were very accurate, easily proven.

Seems when it comes to Ms Clinton, they bow at her feet and refuse to accept facts and blame all her woes on "right wing conspiracy".

The two paragraphs you dismiss can be easily proven so I am guessing facts are not "your thing" and your PARTY is.

THAT is what is "Too bad"

You are still free to have your opinion. Maybe not for so long, but you can right now. I happen to agree with that poster and most likely everyone but you agrees with him. But, criticize away. After all, the liberals criticize and the conservatives take action on issues of importance. You know, you really do ask for it, so please don't bother us with whining about the big bad conservatives.

And no, I have never been to a Tea Party meeting, so don't bother. Associating me with them is actually a compliment, so your choice.

Pretty much a political hit job
 

Looks like the evidence grows of a hit job by Politico in service to their string pullers. Good write up and updates here.


No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. | Daily Wire

And a save by the Daily Wire. [emoji6]

Your sarcasm is expected.

Hope you have funny remarks as this story develops next week, assuming the media cares.

Recall, when your hero of great character, Ms Clinton did not recall signing anything when she became Secy of State ? Well, the American Enterprise Institute, no doubt a part of the vast right wing conspiracy that is always behind any of the Clinton problems, filed a federal lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act and they obtained on Thursday a copy of the Non Disclosure Agreement signed by MS Clinton. You can see it here

https://cei.org/sites/default/files/...11062015_0.pdf

I am sure and your minions who will defend ANYTHING and EVERYTHING as long as they are Democrats will minimize this, and I am not a lawyer so it has no dramatic impact on my thinking, but since the MSM is not even discussing it (they are still mesmerized with that dirty rat Ben Carson) I suppose it will just take time.

I might add for your amusement since you find mocking Carson just such fun. I discovered this on SNOPES...

It is not something that the media cares about or ever did, nor do you and your cohorts on here, but it speaks to Obama speaking of his parents...and his birth..

"Obama told his audience that, because some folks had the courage to "march across a bridge" in Selma, Alabama, his mother, a white woman from Kansas, and his father, a black Muslim from Africa, took heart. It gave them the courage to get married and have a child. The problem with that characterization is that Barack Obama, Jr. was born on August 4, 1961, while the first of three marches across that bridge in Selma didn't occur until March 7, 1965, at least five years after Obama's parents met."

Now, he did not directly lie at all. Fact is SNOPES makes that very clear. The say this...."Senator Obama might be considered guilty of engaging in little pandering here by trying to imply a direct line between the 1965 Selma, Alabama, marches and his personal background"

Say What, Barack? : snopes.com

Also for your enjoyment is this from President Obama' book in 1995..his memoirs.....In the preface he says....""Although much of this book is based on contemporaneous journals or the oral histories of my family, the dialogue is necessarily an approximation of what was actually said or relayed to me." "For the sake of compression, some of the characters that appear are composites of people, I've known, and some events appear out of precise chronology."

Recall his girlfriend he discussed in that book which was someone who did not actually exist ? Recall the outrage by progressive websites that folks at Politico did not acknowledge what he said about composites instead of real people.

Well now, Atlantic was taking them to task for not mentioning that Obama had said he used composites and in defending him with great vigor, they said this...."Sounds like a pretty big deal, right? While the authors of literary memoirs are sometimes cut some slack, it'd be major news if the president of the United States was just now admitting that a character in his highly lauded, bestselling autobiography was fabricated, and only after being caught red-handed."

Obama's Composite Girlfriend: How Politico and Drudge Created Fake News - The Atlantic


I suppose that "slack" does not apply to our Mr Carson, but all of the mysterious things about President Obama s past are part of the Right Wing Conspiracy and is simply something that the Tea Party came up with.

Typical character assassination by the Liberal media. And liberals are so lazy that they will jump to ride on the band wagon without questioning the veracity of the accusations.

Go to westpoint.edu/admissions to see the process for being admitted to west point.
When I was in the Air Guard I worked with an officer who was the Admissions Liason Officer for the AF Academy. His job was to assist with answering questions for applicants for admission to the AF Acadamy. I believe the USMA has something similar.
Relative to Ben Carson, I could imagine that someone like Gen. Westmoreland could honestly say to him "you would be an excellent candidate to West Point." I think this could be inferred as an offer. However the process to gain an offer for admission would have to be initiated to start the process.

It probably doesn't matter at this point anyways. Carson's poll numbers are quickly fading. He has about zero chance of getting the Republican nomination. Carson has publically expressed whacko views on established facts such as evolution, age of the earth, and construction of the pyramids. And, there is a certain percentage of Republicans who won't vote for him simply because he is black. Last but not least, his lack of experience doesn't help him.

You are OK until your last sentence. How can anybody be ruled out based on experience and elect Obama not once but twice.

Obama cannot even come close to Carson on any level anybody would like to measure a person. Carson is a real black. Carson is not a muslim loyalist. Just for starters.

:thumbup:

I heard what he said many years ago regarding the pyramids. Not hearing the full context of the statement, I do feel that his comment was based on ignorance. But, that is based on only what I heard.

However, I would be interested in hearing what you assume to be factual regarding evolution. Because I have yet to see ANY factual evidence supporting evolution. But, that is for another thread. If you base your decision on voting purely on one's view regarding something like this, then you are in the minority because the majority of Americans believe in a deity. So, if they believe in the Bible then they also believe in creation. It just goes to show you that even most scientists believe in creation.

But, I also know that this is all a moot point, because you are not looking for a reason to NOT vote for Carson. You are looking for a reason for ME to not vote for Carson.

Carson is a very well learned and experienced medical professional, but still an amateur when it comes to politics. He would make a good supporting cabinet member in the government, but is not ready (in my opinion) for the leadership position. Of course, Obama is not yet ready for a leadership position either, but......

Using Obama as your litmus test has blinded you to the fact that knowledge of foreign policy and political experience do matter.

But, that is the comparison....Obama. And it's hard to find anyone with less work experience or leadership experience than Obama. So, the bar is pretty low. That's why we should set the bar higher in the future, for our future leaders. We should also eliminate any divisive candidates, because this is suppose to be a position for all the people, not just the few. Hilary said that the Republicans are her enemy, therefore she would be automatically eliminated. Sanders states that big business is the enemy, so he should be eliminated. The Republican candidates have used some harsh verbiage in their campaigns but the enemy to them is terrorists, criminals, and illegal aliens. Yes, in many cases they have stated their defense of murdered babies rights.

I doubt anyone is "blinded" by the fact that Obama is inept and weak. Most logical thinking people realize this by now, even the Democrats.

Really?

Then how the

Let's try it agian!

Really?

Then how the :censored: did Obama make it?

He was a black/muslim activist before the elections and has proven he still is.

HE HAS NO VALUE ADDING EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE WHAT SO EVER.

CHI, are you late to the table ?

THAT is the point. It "seems" like that was NOT important when Obama was elected and in fact, you and others still tout his foreign relations. Fact is, not only did he get the Noble Peace Prize, the entire liberal nation touted him as a messiah.

NOW, with Clinton running, suddenly it is important.

Can you not see how Democrats can be considered a bit confusing on this issue ?