Rants about our rec centers
 

Now before I begin let me say no one loves the villages more than my husband and I. We have lived here 7 go 8 yrs now and belong to more clubs than you can imagine. We attend many events (see my previous post on Lake Miona). We love our life here and our many wonderful friends. I'm throwing this out so people can start to become more observant to their surroundings in the rec centers. Also note, we normally dance when in the clubs more than play cards etc

LA hacienda is always a Hot rec center in large room for a big event. This year's baby boomers Halloween party with most dressed in costumes was unbearable for dancing. When I asked rec center employee to lower ac they said they are not allowed. Really?? With a crowd this size and dressed and dancing. This center runs Hot most of the time. Now I know people will say some run cold and yes they are also right. Laurel manor can be cool. But better cool as we can bring sweaters etc. (Especially in Fla with the humidity).

One other center I have noticed a problem for yrs as I'm in this one once a week also. Saddlebrook. In the winter for some reason the ladies room has No heat and No hot water. This has been ongoing for yrs.
OK once again , don't attack someone who loves it here. Just putting out to see if others noticed any temperature problems in our rec centers. And again keep in mind we dance all the time and the AC is extremely important when you live in a not humid state
Off to watch the military softball competition. Go Marines!!

I always have a problem that rec rooms are too hot but that's my internal thermometer, not an issue of the rec rooms. If there are enough of us that are too warm, we get someone working the red center to lower the thermostat. Has never been a problem, at least at Colony, Lake Miona or Laurel Manor. I know when we has our sectional bridge tournament at Hacienda, we had no problem getting staff to lower the temperature. Not sure why they wouldn't lower them for you.

Excellent post and I think it's mean and territorial when the o.p. gets attacked for stating a legitimate complaint.

Before the Boss steps in to scold the o.p. for not reporting what management said, this is a complaint held by many, many people I am sure. I'm also sure that Rec Dept. employees were there in number to hear the complaints from attendees. I read a similar thread last night about a dressy ball at Lake Miona Rec Center and many people left because it was so hot in there and their $90 was wasted.

Sending one email with the complaint is far less effective than thousands being able to read, agree and acknowledge the same, here. Too often, complaints are treated as "you're the only one who appears to have a problem with this".

With the number of instances where people have suffered this complaint and it continues, I think it needs to be broadcast here.

I love the sports pools, but:

Two years ago I informed the Rec Dept that the floor in the men's shower at Lake Miona had sunk and the water wasn't draining away. I heard nothing back so, after a year, I reminded them of the situation. They wrote back that they had inspected it and it wasn't a problem. Well, standing around in someone else's rinsings is not the nicest thing to do health-wise, then trailing loads of water across the hallway into the changing room creates a safety issue for those not so sure on their feet, so I consider it a problem, which is still extant.

And I do wish they would notice that Florida receives a lot of sunlight. Many people are putting in solar tubes because they provide a lot of interior light without heat - perfect for the changing rooms - and most people with pools use solar water heating to keep them swimmable during the winter months. Add in the huge square footage of south-facing roof for photo-voltaic cells to power the heaters for the shower water and the electricity usage at a sports pool could be slashed. While retro-fitting all of this might be prohibitively expensive, that doesn't explain why new pools aren't built that way.

As the OP said, things are generally very good here but people (especially those in authority) should not be afraid of change, or closed to suggestions from the people who actually use the facilities.

I don't understand. The other thread on this subject on THIS forum was written by this OP.

The ninety dollars lost in a hot and unusable room really smarts. But I have usually felt the need for a winter coat in most rooms in rec centers when they close the doors.

You are the 3rd post. Redwitch at #2 said absolutely nothing negative about the OP. What attack here are we missing???

Here is the telephone number for the rec center if anyone wants to call and ask about the air conditioner.


1. Lake Miona Regional Rec Ctr

1526 Buena Vista BlvdThe Villages, FL 32162
(352) 430-2950

he said a similar thread....not this one.

And I meant...that the other thread, now running about this subject was started yesterday by HULAHIPS the same OP as this thread.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...center-169883/

It was not until later in his post that he/she mentioned a similar thread. The attack was mentioned very early on.

In my former life the squeaky wheel always got action. Keep bugging the district office.

:shrug: I don't see any attack here either. I just went back and re-read the entire other thread and don't see any attack there either. What's with people on this site.... everyone....EVERYONE.... is entitled to an opinion. If it's not the same as yours, it's not always an attack. Most of the people here just need to get a :censored: life. Sorry not "most" just some. To them I say "Suck it up cupcake and get over it. :evil6:

:bowdown: Now there is a novel idea. Talk to the people that can and will do something about an issue you have. ;) Beats bitching here to hear.

I don't have the slightest idea what the point being made is??? I didn't say anything about a non-existent attack on this thread.

This forum is for everyone. Some people are always negative. I just dismiss them. Some people are always positive. I like them better. You get to know who to take seriously and who to dismiss. You just need to read back several of their posts if you are confused. Many good changes have occurred due to posts on this forum and many invalid rumors quelled. Many snotty people have been exposed.

Many complaints are valid and some are just silly. When people complain they can kill a decent business. Many times complaints come from employees that have been fired or by competitors who aren't doing as well as the business that they are trashing. Any anonymous person can say anything including calling people Nazi's. That is very strong language.

But that is not the issue on the thread about the temperature. Is the air conditioner shot? Is there a poorly functioning air conditioner in one of the rec centers that hasn't been reported and not been fixed quickly? Is this an isolated instance or is this a terrible thing happening all over and we should list our homes to move?

Me and Charlie Brown. We say. Good Grief. I am still anguishing about Hulahoops ninety bucks. Gosh. That is awful.

It's a very used figure of speech that is common in tv shows and elsewhere.
See Seinfeld episode "Soup Nazi", it actually made people laugh, not look for something to be offended by.

I hate to be contrary but I am usually way to cold at the centers. We ballroom dance at Seabreeze and it's always freezing in the big ballroom. Play Mah Jongg at Sterling at it's cold there too. You can't find a temperature that makes everybody happy.
Dress cool and bring a sweater.

While some complain the rec centers are too hot, "lower the air temp", a few friends and I say "turn it up". We are always freezing in the rec centers, movie theaters and restaurants.
I'm glad that they don't mess with the temperature just because a few are hot. What about those who are cold ? We never ask them to turn the heat up.
I think they just have to find an average temperature and leave it there.

Too hot too cold is also a refrain heard between husband and wife.

The real problem here is that we have too many people who seem to believe that if you raise an issue its because you are always negative, nothing would be satisfactory, or would complain just to complain. Ironically, these same people, who believe they are taking the high road, seem to be unaware of the fact that they always complain about the people complaining or concerned about some person place or thing.

Many of the concerns are legitimate and deserve an airing out but you have these self appointed guardians that will cut them off in a New York second and that's fast:D The guardians could at least ask for a clarification before condemning them.

The OP obviously has a complaint about the Rec Center HVAC. Legitimate complaints about anything to do with the Rec centers should ultimately be directed to the Recreation department and/or the VCCD. Of course the OP can bring it up on this forum for discussion.
In post #3 attacking the OP (or any OP) was mentioned, before the people say this and the boss says that, etc etc. I asked the simple question what attack??? And you mentioned another thread. I get the fact a previous post or two crossed threads and probably even other sites. I wasn't implying anything with respect to you. Sorry if it appeared that I did.
I think threads should be just that, topics based on OPs feelings, thoughts, and experiences. Too many times that gets lost somewhere.

Just spoke to a few wives at the games and they just confirmed what I've always thought. They also mentioned when exercising in rec center and if hot they have asked to have ac lowered and were told they were not allowed. I was told this at LaHacienda before also with boomer dances, NY dances etc. These type of clubs bring in hundreds of people , many times dressed up, dancing, etc and I don't believe that room has fans either. Of course I'm speaking about large numbers of residents attending dances etc (not the same as playing cards, sitting,etc where sometimes it can be chilly. That's another story and we can wear sweaters etc. But for hundreds of villagers dancing in one room we should be comfortable enough to enjoy the dance. That's all I'm saying. Since Fla is a hot and humid state, I feel when residents complain they are hot all employees should be able to lower the thermostat for a few hours while the dance is taking place. That seems reasonable

I suggest you call District property management and ask if they are aware of the issue you keep posting about. Your relating that you have talked to others who were to hot at the rec center......means nothing. Doesn't answer what the cause is or what is being done for a fix. Since you have experienced a problem and are concerned and seem to be quite worried, call and find out.
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You do realize where you came from there probably wasn't a rec center independent of a temperature issue. Come on people - put a thermometer on your key chain and tell us how hot it is in the rec center. Data gets attention. Does this look like a place that's cutting corners? I'm still living the dream.

We recently held an event at Lake Miona. It became too warm. I reported it to staff and the temperature was promptly adjusted.

I disagree, here won't mean anything, contact Mr. Rohan, it is his organization so get his position. This site is a very small % of the population so why it's nice to put stuff out there, why don't we go to "the guy" who can give you the answer?

If you are too cold or too hot at a rec center activity complain to the person whos name is on the permit for that activity. When that person discusses the room setup with the facility supervisor they tell them what temperature they want the room set to. They are the only one authorized to change the room temperature. If the rec assistants were to raise or lower the temperature every time someone complained, it would be chaos.

:agree: However when it is really a large event with dancing, the temperature should have been adjusted prior to the event.

"Dress cool and bring a sweater"? How in the world are men/women in Marine dress blues going to dress cool and wear a sweater???

I can see how the a/c shouldn't be adjusted with every complaint thru the day/evening. But, when there are hundreds of people at a function like this Marine one, it's going to get hot in there just because of the number of people attending and dancing. The a/c should be lowered a bit for a large group like that, if they ask.

BTW, my post #3 referred to attacks on the o.p. because attacks are inevitable--the reason the o.p. prefaced the whole thing by saying how they love it here. They, too, knew being told to "love it or leave it" was coming.

We go to Colony a lot and it is always nice in there. I do take tickets at the door for a large 250 people club that meets there once per month. It is bands and dancing all night. The only person allowed to tell the staff to turn down the temperature is the person who booked the room. Not even I can do it, it has to come from him. Possibly the complaints should go to the person booking the room so he in turn can ask the staff to adjust the temp. Just a thought. There may well be some issues with some of the rooms in other rec centers. I have no knowledge of that.

You are correct. I recently was "the person in charge " at an event at Lake Miona. I reported the room was room too warm and the room tempature was promptly adjusted. Also,keep in mind that a large room takes awhile to bring to desired temperature into the room.

I called Lake Miona Rec center and asked the person who answered the phone if they were having trouble with their air conditioning and he said "Yes, one of the big rooms, they are waiting for a part to come in".

The concept of Rec Center people not being allowed to change the temps is not accurate. I run a number of meetings at various centers and the staff is always willing to change the temp, turn on and off the fans, etc. BUT I always make sure they know who is allowed to ask them for the change. Without direction from the leader, they could be jumping up every 15 minutes to make a change for whomever asked most recently.

The title of this thread is RANT...AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. A rant solves nothing but bringing up a lot of folks blood pressure. If you really want to solve a proble, go to those who can solve it. Otherwise it is just a RANT.

I'm still in favor of Rant Control. If when you moved in you got 3 Rants a year, it stays at 3 Rants until you leave. Higher bonds mean more Rant entitlements for the newer Villagers.

Interesting concept........call and ask.

People certainly stay tuned in.

How about you get three complaints about someone's rants, and then no more until next year?

Let's not get the Complaint Department mixed up with the Rant Control Department.
Does anyone gripe anymore? It was popular in the 60's. Is griping when you complain but walk away before you get an answer?

The topic was issues or problems with rec center maintenance.

Let's not turn this into a rant about rants.

Thanks,

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