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Guest 11-27-2015 02:54 PM

Shootins at or near Planned Parenthhod
 
There is currently an active shooter situation going on at or near a Planned Parenthood Clinic in Colorado Springs. Two police officers have been shot.

Hope it is not a crazy trying to take out Planned Parenthood clients or staff. That would usually lead to copycat crazies who think they have been called to take care of abortion doctors - like the crazy did when he shot a doctor in church and tried to defend himself by saying he was acting in self defense of helpless fetuses.

Guest 11-27-2015 03:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151584)
There is currently an active shooter situation going on at or near a Planned Parenthood Clinic in Colorado Springs. Two police officers have been shot.

Hope it is not a crazy trying to take out Planned Parenthood clients or staff. That would usually lead to copycat crazies who think they have been called to take care of abortion doctors - like the crazy did when he shot a doctor in church and tried to defend himself by saying he was acting in self defense of helpless fetuses.

Yep, liberals will eat this up in false indignation. Who knows, maybe a black finally realized that PP was killing more black babies than were born last year. PP competes with gang bangers on how many lives they can extinguish. I'm sure that the Republicans will be blamed for it. After all, it is the GOP that's at war with women, right?

Guest 11-27-2015 03:54 PM

there has been no report that planned parent hood has played anymore role than being just another shop in the area.

Of course the media has been blasting away about PP being in the area befroe they knew the guy was in there.

Early report (no validation....) describes the shooter as tall, white with a white beard.

All one has to do is listen to the reporting for 2 minutes or less to conclude the only thing being reported that is KNOWN....there is a shooting situation.

All the rest is media hype and escalation to hook the listener....the naive ones that is! And those at work at the media this weekend are the second third or fourth string teams.....and they are all hyped up because it is happening ON THEIR WATCH!!!!

Guest 11-27-2015 04:11 PM

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Yep, liberals will eat this up in false indignation. Who knows, maybe a black finally realized that PP was killing more black babies than were born last year. PP competes with gang bangers on how many lives they can extinguish. I'm sure that the Republicans will be blamed for it. After all, it is the GOP that's at war with women, right?

You should seek out some kind of help.

Guest 11-27-2015 05:59 PM

No one knows the reason that the shooter decided to go shoot people today nor does anyone know what his targets were to be.

No reason to say he was an anti-abortion person or whatever his problem was.

Keep it civil. Get facts before posting.

Guest 11-27-2015 06:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151593)
Yep, liberals will eat this up in false indignation. Who knows, maybe a black finally realized that PP was killing more black babies than were born last year. PP competes with gang bangers on how many lives they can extinguish. I'm sure that the Republicans will be blamed for it. After all, it is the GOP that's at war with women, right?

Pathetic. You are clearly mentally ill

Guest 11-27-2015 07:01 PM

Going on 7 PM and the networks don't know anymore now than they did 4 hours ago yet they continue to make a banquet out of a ham sandwich.

And with the 3rd and 4th string holiday weekend players they are going to maximize their moment in the lime light.......


BY BORING THE VIEWERS to death!!

Guest 11-27-2015 07:13 PM

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You should seek out some kind of help.

I second that!!!!

Guest 11-27-2015 07:30 PM

This shooting took place about 3 miles from my summer home in Colorado Springs. It is also the second multiple shooting incident in Colorado Springs within the last 30 days. In October 3 people were killed in the downtown area.

We need to start calling these incidents what they are DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

This is no different than the shootings in Paris and happens much more frequently.

I can assure you that Colorado Springs is NOT a GUN FREE ZONE. As we saw with the shooting we have open carry in place and in fact prior to the last shooting 911 was called to report a man displaying a gun to which the dispatcher explained he had the right to do so....minutes later he started shooting.

Guest 11-27-2015 09:58 PM

Looks as though the domestic terrorist was a middle age white man.

The open carry on firearms doesn't seem to be working out very well in Colorado.

We will have to wait to see if the shooter had any agenda against Planned Parenthood. Wonder if he knew that building had "bullet proof" windows?

Guest 11-27-2015 10:59 PM

I watched Fox and CNN thru the hours of the events. The Fox reporters repeatedly stated there was no reason to believe this was a PP related event and continuously commented there was a nearby bank. They attacked NYC for deploying protection for its PP locations claiming there was no reason to protect PP and one commenter went so far as to say NYC then should be protecting all the banks. This was well after the first civilians had escaped and certainly given the police some kind of information.

Despite the despicable anti black comment above, the shooter looks to be a white fit short haired male. You can bet the house that he is a rapid anti choice, and yes anti choice terrorist. Not a Syrian, not ISIS, a good ole boy who has been brainwashed by the usual suspects into believing this is somehow justified. One dead cop, at least two dead civilians. Awaiting the demand that every white male Christian be compelled to apologize for his behavior. Awaiting the demand that he be properly labelled an American antichoice terrorist.

Guest 11-27-2015 11:08 PM

Comments on Fox news. com website on the active shooting in a Planned Parenthood:
"Too bad the abortion doctor and nursing staff weren't all killed FREE ERIC RUDOLPH"
"Good, no one deserves to die more than they do"
"Obama set this up. He is sick"
"Stupid. PP is a hard target, wait for them to leave and follow them home and get them there"
"Well I guess as active shooters go, you can't choose a better place to have your little rampage"
"Know the area. probably an attempted holdup by one of the six blacks in Colorado Springs"
"DEATH TO ABORTIONISTS"
"This shooter is a HERO."
" I know this isn't PC.. but n...ers are just plain bad news"
"Liberals should just join ISIS and get it over with.. you know you want too"
"78% of abortions are black. Open more Planned Parenthood clinics"
"It's probably a black guy that couldn't get a 10 piece chicken nugget from McDonalds going on a rampage"

Yes Fox News, those are your viewers and you are doing nothing to dissuade them from these beliefs.

Guest 11-28-2015 03:56 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151593)
Yep, liberals will eat this up in false indignation. Who knows, maybe a black finally realized that PP was killing more black babies than were born last year. PP competes with gang bangers on how many lives they can extinguish. I'm sure that the Republicans will be blamed for it. After all, it is the GOP that's at war with women, right?

I did some research and could not find any domestic terrorist that was liberal, minority or female. Sorry, white republican males own DOMESTIC ACTS OF VIOLENCE. And after viewing the reporting of domestic violence on FOX NEWS, they verify that old white men are proud of it.

Guest 11-28-2015 06:09 AM

here we go again

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 11-28-2015 06:25 AM

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Comments on Fox news. com website on the active shooting in a Planned Parenthood:
"Too bad the abortion doctor and nursing staff weren't all killed FREE ERIC RUDOLPH"
"Good, no one deserves to die more than they do"
"Obama set this up. He is sick"
"Stupid. PP is a hard target, wait for them to leave and follow them home and get them there"
"Well I guess as active shooters go, you can't choose a better place to have your little rampage"
"Know the area. probably an attempted holdup by one of the six blacks in Colorado Springs"
"DEATH TO ABORTIONISTS"
"This shooter is a HERO."
" I know this isn't PC.. but n...ers are just plain bad news"
"Liberals should just join ISIS and get it over with.. you know you want too"
"78% of abortions are black. Open more Planned Parenthood clinics"
"It's probably a black guy that couldn't get a 10 piece chicken nugget from McDonalds going on a rampage"

Yes Fox News, those are your viewers and you are doing nothing to dissuade them from these beliefs.

Absolutely shameful. When I read comments like those on Fox News I'm embarrassed that they were made by Americans.

The terrorist definitely attacked Planned Parenthood, not a bank or nearby business. Three dead, including one police officer, 9 injured. No motives known at this point, but given the hatred of the anti-choice contingent, it isn't a stretch to think this is possibly a Christian terrorist. The lives of three people were taken. These shooters/terrorists are no different than ISIS and need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Guest 11-28-2015 07:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151785)
I did some research and could not find any domestic terrorist that was liberal, minority or female. Sorry, white republican males own DOMESTIC ACTS OF VIOLENCE. And after viewing the reporting of domestic violence on FOX NEWS, they verify that old white men are proud of it.

Award level BS!

Guest 11-28-2015 07:38 AM

57 year old white male from North Carolina travels to Colorado to shoot people in a Planned Parenthood clinic. Hmmmm, possibility of Right To Life (except for those he decides to snuff) right wing loon?

Guest 11-28-2015 08:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151785)
I did some research and could not find any domestic terrorist that was liberal, minority or female. Sorry, white republican males own DOMESTIC ACTS OF VIOLENCE. And after viewing the reporting of domestic violence on FOX NEWS, they verify that old white men are proud of it.

Research supports that most of the terrorist activity occurring in the United States in recent years has not come from Muslims, but from a combination of radical Christians, white supremacists and far-right militia groups. I would hazard a guess that most of these groups are dominated in numbers by white men.

Guest 11-28-2015 08:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151818)
Research supports that most of the terrorist activity occurring in the United States in recent years has not come from Muslims, but from a combination of radical Christians, white supremacists and far-right militia groups. I would hazard a guess that most of these groups are dominated in numbers by white men.

...and would also be willing to bet they vote a straight Republican ticket.

Guest 11-28-2015 08:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151764)
I watched Fox and CNN thru the hours of the events. The Fox reporters repeatedly stated there was no reason to believe this was a PP related event and continuously commented there was a nearby bank. They attacked NYC for deploying protection for its PP locations claiming there was no reason to protect PP and one commenter went so far as to say NYC then should be protecting all the banks. This was well after the first civilians had escaped and certainly given the police some kind of information.

Despite the despicable anti black comment above, the shooter looks to be a white fit short haired male. You can bet the house that he is a rapid anti choice, and yes anti choice terrorist. Not a Syrian, not ISIS, a good ole boy who has been brainwashed by the usual suspects into believing this is somehow justified. One dead cop, at least two dead civilians. Awaiting the demand that every white male Christian be compelled to apologize for his behavior. Awaiting the demand that he be properly labelled an American antichoice terrorist.

Anti-Black????
Terrorist????

Get over it. Why should Christians apologize for this?
Typical liberal attitude of taking everything to the extreme. If one does not agree with you, then it is a war against the issue. War against women, war against gays, war against abortion, war against the poor, war against the blacks. You people need to get a life and learn what liberal means. Every heard of being flexible with your views?

Guest 11-28-2015 08:59 AM

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...and would also be willing to bet they vote a straight Republican ticket.

Agreed.

Guest 11-28-2015 09:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151785)
I did some research and could not find any domestic terrorist that was liberal, minority or female. Sorry, white republican males own DOMESTIC ACTS OF VIOLENCE. And after viewing the reporting of domestic violence on FOX NEWS, they verify that old white men are proud of it.

Oh? So, the gang bangers in city ghettos are white republicans? Get real.

Guest 11-28-2015 09:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151795)
Absolutely shameful. When I read comments like those on Fox News I'm embarrassed that they were made by Americans.

The terrorist definitely attacked Planned Parenthood, not a bank or nearby business. Three dead, including one police officer, 9 injured. No motives known at this point, but given the hatred of the anti-choice contingent, it isn't a stretch to think this is possibly a Christian terrorist. The lives of three people were taken. These shooters/terrorists are no different than ISIS and need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Oh, for a minute there I thought you were talking of the doctors killing babies. Whew, you are only talking about anyone that doesn't agree with you. Anyone that doesn't agree with you is considered at terrorist, right?

Guest 11-28-2015 09:51 AM

I realize that you liberals are just trolling and baiting the forum again, but really? Do you call every rapist, a terrorist? Do you call the kid that shoots up the school, a terrorist? A Republican? Do you consider gang or drug related shootings, to be terrorism? Do you even know what the term "terrorist" means? And why do you believe that this guy is a Christian? Never mind, please don't respond because I know your rhetoric. It's the same old "war against women" charge.

Guest 11-28-2015 09:54 AM

If you want to start a thread about the pros and cons of abortion, be my guest. This thread is about murder at a Planned Parenthood clinic. Murder of police officers and innocent bystanders is against the law.

Guest 11-28-2015 10:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151818)
Research supports that most of the terrorist activity occurring in the United States in recent years has not come from Muslims, but from a combination of radical Christians, white supremacists and far-right militia groups. I would hazard a guess that most of these groups are dominated in numbers by white men.

The truth!!! Finally we are calling these attacks what they are.

The director of this PP was one who was filmed in those highly edited films!

Guest 11-28-2015 10:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151865)
I realize that you liberals are just trolling and baiting the forum again, but really? Do you call every rapist, a terrorist? Do you call the kid that shoots up the school, a terrorist? A Republican? Do you consider gang or drug related shootings, to be terrorism? Do you even know what the term "terrorist" means? And why do you believe that this guy is a Christian? Never mind, please don't respond because I know your rhetoric. It's the same old "war against women" charge.

As this terrorist attack occurred just a few miles from my summer home I will respond.....

This is the FBI definition of terrorism

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investi...ism-definition

Perhaps you don't know that all PP sites in Colorado have a Supreme Court ruling that bans protests at this site due the number of attacks in the past.

I will not comment on the religion of the shooter as to me not the point. But I believe we need to call these attacks what they are... acts of domestic terror.

Question for the OP what makes this attack different from the attacks in Paris?

Guest 11-28-2015 10:53 AM

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Award level BS!

Ok please post a link to a Liberal or women shooter in a multiple death shooting...

Awaiting your response

Guest 11-28-2015 11:13 AM

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If you want to start a thread about the pros and cons of abortion, be my guest. This thread is about murder at a Planned Parenthood clinic. Murder of police officers and innocent bystanders is against the law.

Since when did the thread subject mean anything to a liberal?

Let's see....abortion clinic.....killings.....

RELATED!!!!

Not a terrorist, just a murderer. Get over it. He was wrong, but he wasn't a terrorist. He wasn't shouting allahu akbar. And, as far as I know, he wasn't KKK. So, please learn what the term "terrorism" means.

Guest 11-28-2015 11:37 AM

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Ok please post a link to a Liberal or women shooter in a multiple death shooting...

Awaiting your response

Actually, you will find it difficult to find political ideology with any of the mass shooters.

Also, most agree that the greatest majority were liberal and Democratics.

This link refers to a lot of that discussion...

Guns Don

In addition, the news site of the Democratic Party took this so serious they published this article below debunking a claim that 99% were liberal, but offering nothing to point anything to the other side.

Congressional Candidate: Democrats Commit '99 Percent' Of Mass Shootings | ThinkProgress

Guest 11-28-2015 11:49 AM

This shooting does not seem to bother anyone at all.


An innocent 9 year old boy lured into an alley in Chicago and shot directly between the eyes.

A gang attack because the little boy's father was in a gang.

This upsets nobody on here...

Arrest made in shooting death of 9-year-old Tyshawn Lee - CNN.com

We are too busy trying to make stupid inane political points with a deranged nut case who decided to go on a shooting rampage.

Oh wait...do you need to know the political affiliation of this little boy before getting upset ?

All the gang killings, etc should require a check of political affiliation to insure that people on here care about the death of children.

Guest 11-28-2015 11:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151901)
Since when did the thread subject mean anything to a liberal?

Let's see....abortion clinic.....killings.....

RELATED!!!!

Not a terrorist, just a murderer. Get over it. He was wrong, but he wasn't a terrorist. He wasn't shouting allahu akbar. And, as far as I know, he wasn't KKK. So, please learn what the term "terrorism" means.

I already posted a link to the FBI definition of terrorist perhaps you missed that... so here is the definition.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”Sep 13, 2011

Perhaps the only deference between him and the Paris terrorists was the face he as NOT yelling allahu akbar so thanks for helping to make my point.

The attack on Paris and this attack were terrorist attacks!!!!

Guest 11-28-2015 12:01 PM

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This shooting does not seem to bother anyone at all.


An innocent 9 year old boy lured into an alley in Chicago and shot directly between the eyes.

A gang attack because the little boy's father was in a gang.

This upsets nobody on here...

Arrest made in shooting death of 9-year-old Tyshawn Lee - CNN.com

We are too busy trying to make stupid inane political points with a deranged nut case who decided to go on a shooting rampage.

Oh wait...do you need to know the political affiliation of this little boy before getting upset ?

All the gang killings, etc should require a check of political affiliation to insure that people on here care about the death of children.

The problem is, in this country, we have so many acts of violence to choose from. I currently am concentrated on an event that took place a few miles from my summer home. And the 2 domestic terror attack in Colorado Springs since October.

Guest 11-28-2015 12:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151893)
Ok please post a link to a Liberal or women shooter in a multiple death shooting...

Awaiting your response

Just answering your question. There is a difference between mass murder and terrorism.

Olga Hepnarová, a Czech woman, deliberately hit a crowd of people with a truck, killing eight of the twenty that she struck.

Priscilla Joyce Ford, an African American woman, drove down a Reno sidewalk, killing six and injuring 23 more.


Brenda Ann Spencer, a 16-year-old, killed two adults and wounded a police officer and eight children at the Cleveland Elementary School.

Jennifer San Marco killed her neighbor, then drove to the Goleta postal plant where she had worked and killed six more people before killing herself.

Aileen Carol Wuornos, perhaps America's most famous female serial killer, killed at least seven men in two years.

Sylvia Seegrist took a rifle to a shopping mall, where she killed three people and wounded seven.

Amy Bishop killed three people and wounded three more at a meeting of the biology department where she worked.


Nasra Yussef Mohammed al-Enezi set fire to the tent where her ex-husband was being remarried. Fifty-seven people were killed, and ninety were wounded.


Jane Toppan, a nurse, poisoned at least 31 people. Many of them were her patients.

Beverley Allitt, a nurse, killed four children and tried to kill more.

Kristen Gilbert, a nurse, was convicted of killing four people and trying to kill two more.

Guest 11-28-2015 12:25 PM

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I already posted a link to the FBI definition of terrorist perhaps you missed that... so here is the definition.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”Sep 13, 2011

Perhaps the only deference between him and the Paris terrorists was the face he as NOT yelling allahu akbar so thanks for helping to make my point.

The attack on Paris and this attack were terrorist attacks!!!!

BS!

Guest 11-28-2015 12:27 PM

Hence forth for the sake of clarity, the real terrorists, the one's who are committed to killing all infidels are

RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS!

Guest 11-28-2015 12:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151916)
I already posted a link to the FBI definition of terrorist perhaps you missed that... so here is the definition.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”Sep 13, 2011

Perhaps the only deference between him and the Paris terrorists was the face he as NOT yelling allahu akbar so thanks for helping to make my point.

The attack on Paris and this attack were terrorist attacks!!!!

Maybe, but maybe not. You don't know for sure until you find out what his motive(s) was/were. Note that the definition that you use, does not include the religious element, ie. ISIS. You also left out much of the definition. But, you look at it in your skewed way and I will look at it realistically and logically. As far as I am concerned (not knowing all the facts) he was a mass murderer, acting on his own for his own personal reasons. According to you, Black Lives Matter would be a terrorist organization. The Wall St protesters would be terrorists. But, not the Tea Party because they do not use force.

Guest 11-28-2015 12:29 PM

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The truth!!! Finally we are calling these attacks what they are.

The director of this PP was one who was filmed in those highly edited films!

EDITED???? Who told you that hogwash?? Does the word gullible mean anything to you?

Guest 11-28-2015 12:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151893)
Ok please post a link to a Liberal or women shooter in a multiple death shooting...

Awaiting your response

Does Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn count??? Or does bombing gov buildings by the Weathermen Underground not constitute "liberals or women" terrorists? Do you think that they voted Republican?

Oh, and how about the Confederate Army? They were probably all Democrats.

If you want to generalize, then go for it. But, don't leave yourself open for an answer unless you expect one.

Guest 11-28-2015 12:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151926)
The problem is, in this country, we have so many acts of violence to choose from. I currently am concentrated on an event that took place a few miles from my summer home. And the 2 domestic terror attack in Colorado Springs since October.

As long as they have some political significance otherwise no killing or mass murder means anything on this forum.


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