Planned Development across from Pinellas
 

The unnamed on-line news has news regarding 400 bungalows for 55 & over with two car garages $3,000-4,600 a month on 3 year leases. The pet friendly community will have a community center, pool and fitness center. An Apartment building (perhaps six stories tall), assisted living center and commercial space are also included in this planned development by WholeLife Development. This still must be approved by the Wildwood Council.

Next to this Development is the proposed Trailwinds Development with 572,750 sq.ft. Retail space, 296 homes, and 151,500 sq.ft. Of office space that has yet to break ground for some time. Trailwinds butts up to Sandhill executive course and to houses already built by The Villages developer.

The Villages Developer attempted to purchase and build on these properties but their proposal was turned down by the Wildwood Council.

Well, what do you think? Is all this "good or ugly" as grandpa use to say---for all of us village residents. Do you know or do you care? Does the Wildwood City Council know what they are doing or is this going to be a "bust"?

Doesn't much matter to me. Their making a HUGE investment. Didn't think there was that much of a demand for high end living thou. Time will tell.

I am very glad TV did not get that property, as they were not going to have any access to it through anything other than a tiny road in Tamarind Grove. It is already a struggle to turn left out of Tamarind Grove Run in the winter season. This development will have access through 466A.

The only thing I see as a problem for them are the three-year leases. Who knows what is going to happen in their lives in the next three years? I sure wouldn't want to commit to a lease for three years.

I hope their retail space will have another grocery store.

I agree..............not sure of the demand at that price point and term. I'm not excited, could definitely be an eye sore if it doesn't work. Depending on what "retail" comes in, could also be a sore. Hope I'm worrying too much and in five years, I'm looking at it with a smile.

So you can't even say *************??

Wow, that was cool.

It appears that The Villages proposed development had access via 466A and 462, same as the new development plan.

Six story apartment building would be an eyesore around here.

I did not think there was any golf cart access anywhere except through Tamarind Grove postal station/pool park area.

With all due respect, I remember the TV developer having access off 466A similar to the current proposal before the Wildwood City Council. We know the type of work the TV developer has done with The Villages. I figure the TV developer would never build "rentals" on that property, in fact, his proposal didn't include apartments. Tamarind Grove and St. James could have the most to lose with this so called mix-use development.

Golf cart access is a lot different than car traffic. I am not sure I see the problem but it really doesn't matter anymore.

I would not like to have 800 additional golf carts funneling in and out through one street in our small neighborhood. There would be a vast increase in traffic turning left out of Tamarind Grove onto St. Charles.

Yes, it doesn't matter anymore. I'm just stating my opinion that I'm glad it didn't go through.

Don't think anyone from Wildwood is gonna lease here. Frankly don't think too many folks from anywhere will cough up 4K per month to rent in Central Florida ( AKA off the coast ):shocked: It ain't The Villages and will never be.:shocked:

I looked up the Wholelife company on the internet and it looks like they build a pretty sweet looking, high end development that would be a real asset to the area.

Sweet looking, high end development at $4k a month sounds much better then a bungalow with a two car garage.

I suspect that the company has a deeply researched business plan and have built other similar projects. They know who will be interested. Also, we have no idea so everything we put on here is pure speculation. I also suspect that if anyone had said anyone would pay 350K+ for a Courtyard Villa a few years ago we may have had the same opinion.

I saw a CYV listed for almost $600K last year. I am sure they sold it.

I didn't realize that this development will have golf cart access to The Villages. Three year leases ranging from 3000-4500 per month or $108,000-$162,000, all I can say is WOW!!! You could almost buy a new Patio or CYV if you extend the lease by an additional year. Wonder how appealing these rental leases will be.

The Villages is not going to allow golf cart access.

Wildwood could grant golf cart access with a crossing from Pinelas Plaza across 466A. Not much the developer could do to stop it without cutting off golf cart access to Pinelas plaza.

So they would get GC access, still NO access to rec cntrs, golf courses, pools etc. Not real sure this would be a problem. They would get access to Brownwood :eek:, this could make things interesting on the square (Remember the square is WILDWOOD). I could see lots of GC traffic on Pinellas Place to Hendry.....

I understood the same

Why would one want to live in TV and not be able to participate in so many activites?

I do not like the sound of this plan at all.
We currently have no apartments in The Villages.
How would they allow 6 story anything?
Traffic will be a nightmare.
Not happy with this news! :shocked:

Welcome to my world. Homeowners had a chance to have some say in developments of Florida listed on the 2010 ballot and they shot it down after developers and the real estate industry campaigned hard . Developers will continue to capitalize on every square inch of land and you are going to continue to see a sea a roofs from on high and the water department telling you that your using too much water meaning we need it for more development .

Some say the more the merrier yet I question they believe that when they have long waits in lines in traffic on the square. Paradise lost

Once again an observation and not a complaint

Cést la vie

Uh, that's already happening in TV properties.

Not in The Villages
 

This mix-use development will not be a part of TV. The Villages Developer made a proposal to Wildwood City Council but his project (more of what we have) was turned down. This project that is currently proposed (apartments etc.) for this property is an "outside" company that has not previously built in this area.

It's unlikely (very) they will get access to TV via a golf cart. Of course, they will come by car to Brownwood and other squares and strip malls that are open to the public in TV.

I seem to remember that this new development included a large number of Assisted Living Units. Are we mixing them up with these "apartments"? That might explain the high rents.

They will not have golf cart access to The Villages unless they build an access across 466a. They will not have usage of The Villages facilities (i.e.) pools, pickleball courts, exec courses etc. I hope this is true and remains that way, if they do not pay Villages amenity fees they have no right to the facilities.

I believe non-Villagers should not have access to the MMPs since they aren't paying to maintain them.

Press releases are cheaper than construction costs

The more I think about it, this will probably not be a "golf cart" type community, but I could be wrong since the ad mentioned 2 car garage. There does not appear to be any room for a tunnel or bridge across 466a, so the only other alternative would be an at grade crossing, and we should be able to comment on that to Sumter County. Can you imagine GC going across 466a???
Your point about more traffic is quite valid, especially at the squares.

Maybe the sale of booze at the squares (not the surrounding businesses) would be limited to residents (TV IDs required)....who knows.

They will never turn away money..$$

I think LSVs will still have access to TV via the existing shopping area. Licensed LSVs are allowed to cross highways at proper intersections. Unless Pinellas Pl street has a speed limit over 35 mph, an LSV will be able to drive on it. I think Pinellas Pl has a golf cart path on it, so that would mean golf carts would be able to use it to access TV if they can get across 466A somehow. Maybe a "special" golf cart crossing into the existing shopping area.

I would be extremely surprised if there ends up being golf cart access for the new planned development. And that would include any "easy" crossing point. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Nobody in that development has any right to use our cart trails...I am sure the Morrises will block off any cart entrance to our paths as he should....

That's not part of the villages so they will have access to nothing by cart....

Agree. Did someone say this would be a golf cart community?

I think this is a bust. They haven't built Trailwinds yet. There are plenty of places in the villages for rent year round for less than 3600 a month. How many people do you know that would pay that kind of money to live in the middle of Florida. I don't know anybody.

During high season no worries, but who is going to pay $3600 a month for July

Then we'll see a lot more pics of the trash on the online news.