Why Obama prefers to take the heat that comes with executive actions?
 

First and foremost it is because he is incapable of leding, communicating and negotiating with congress. (His negotiating score card is atrocious....i.e. Iran nuclear deal).

As a trained lawyer he is very well tuned to perfecting doing whatever the letter of the law allows....which means using the law, abusing the law of just hiding behind the law.

Hence any action he takes even those where he is definitely on the thin ice of breaking the law allows him to claim an accomplishment. Keep in mind that to Obama on some subjects, just talking about an issue constitutes him addressing it.

Some past presidents earned the title "teflon" because it seemed no matter what they did nothing ever stuck to them. NOT OBAMA! Nothing ticks to him as he will always play it safe and do nothing.....even as our enemies openly defy America by killing it's citizens.

Back to gun controt shootings. There is not one single action he is proposing that would have eliminated any of the past mass shootings. And will not stop any future mass shootings. He has merely taken those controversial steps that allow him to put another "accomplishment" in his resume'....as measured by the Obama rules for measuring such.

As for his tearful performance yesterday....extremely dis-ingenuine....phony....part of the script.....for the lemmings and media and the uninformed.

Just compare what he is proposing against the most strict gun laws in the country in effect in Chicago and Washington, DC. Just look at the track record of gun violence in those two cities......the absolute worst.

So Obama's executive orders allow him to claim he has done something to show taking action against gun violence......words, words, words only.

Those actions will have the same effect our current immigration laws have on illegal immigration.

Pure and simple no matter what the man does, it is all about him.

He has proven over these past 7 years America and it's people are not his priorities. Quite the opposite.

His legacy? He will make Jimmy Carter look like an aggressive president.

Obama is America's worst failed experiment. With all of Jimmy "the peanut" Carter's faults, he still acted professional compared to this wannabee Entertainer-in-Chief. The only positive thing that I can give Obama credit for is in making Carter look better.

Why did you not oppose the executive orders of GW Bush? You do know he had more of those than Obama?

You do realize that the Republican issued a pocket veto for everything in the Senate?

There is always a cause and effect!!!

Perhaps our elected officials should try to work together.

How many laws did Bush produce by E.O.? How many did he break by his E.O.? Just because someone else does something first, does that make it right? I thought your Obummer was supposed to do things different? Oh, he sure did do things different. Let's face it, if Bush did what Obummer has done, they would have impeached him. Obummer gets a free pass on everything he does, and everyone just smiles politely, like he is a mentally retarded child.

You liberals consider working together to mean, do it our way. Well, we have seen how "your" way has been with the disastrous Obamacare, and his leading from behind failed foreign policy.

All we want from him now is to do nothing, say nothing and go away peacefully with his failed record as an experimental president.

Another idiotic liberal argument

Since when is the NUMBER of EO's the factor that counts?
How many of Bush's were illegal, unconstitutional, or rewrote the law?
Bush signs an EO allowing service animals in National Parks, and you equate that with Obama letting animals out of Gitmo?
It's like saying someone with 500 transactions totaling $200 on their Christmas (I know, not PC, and I don't care) Club account MUST be wealthier than Bill Gates, who only had one transaction (for 15 billion).

Actually this should answer your question:

An article about his signing statements....

Bush's Tactic of Refusing Laws Is Probed

Not going to go tit for tat with you because you are unarmed.

Exactly what reason is there to compare Bush with Obama, other than an attempt to defend Obama's total disregard for working with the Republicans? Is Obama that bad and weak that he needs to be constantly shored up and defended?

I believe the question that you ignored was, what E.O.'s did Bush produced that were laws bypassing congress? You do know that the president does not make laws, right? It was the liberals on here that had to bring Bush into the thread, so at least answer the question.

Obama said last night that he taught Constitutional law, and knows it. But, he is questioning his AG on how he can change the law regarding the 2nd Amendment. How does that figure? And why is it that half the time Obama's E.O's are thrown out by the courts? Was he that bad of a part-time associate professor that he can't remember his own teachings?

Obama's tears last night just tore me up........:a20:

Now this one is funny...you all voted a Congress in that will not work with the President did you forget that. You all have a Congressional rule,
The Hastert Rule, also known as the "majority of the majority" rule, is an informal governing principle used by Republican Speakers of the House of Representatives since the mid-1990s to maintain their speakerships and limit the power of the minority party to bring bills up for a vote on the floor of the House. Yep you want to work with the other side..

Is Obama that bad and weak that he needs to be constantly shored up and defended?

I believe the question that you ignored was, what E.O.'s did Bush produced that were laws bypassing congress? He did that on signing statements or do you forget that? So is one for you...

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publica...rcing-the-laws

This one allowed torture something no President before him did!


You do know that the president does not make laws, right? It was the liberals on here that had to bring Bush into the thread, so at least answer the question.

I believe I have answered your questions. But why shouldn't Bush be compared?

Obama said last night that he taught Constitutional law, and knows it. But, he is questioning his AG on how he can change the law regarding the 2nd Amendment. How does that figure? And why is it that half the time Obama's E.O's are thrown out by the courts?
His recess appointments, because the Republicans sorta left the lights on so he couldn't make these appoints was thrown out be the Supreme Court. But you said half his EO's are thrown out by the courts. The best count I could get was 227 EO's by Obama so that would be 113 EO's thrown out be the courts. I make it easy for you just provide a link to 5 court ruling on different EO's I await your research.

Was he that bad of a part-time associate professor that he can't remember his own teachings?I didn't take a class from him so I can't speak to that. [/QUOTE]

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Before you get yourself needlessly worked up over nothing.....how about reminding us of all the great things Obama got done with the cooperation of the democratic controlled congress.

We will save you time.....no more than he got done when it was half and half and no less done when the democrats control zero!

Save the BS!

When you use words like "Obummer" you show your ignorance. Typical of a fading republican party, how does it feel to be a minority?

The rapidly declining Republicans/Tea Bag Partiers depend on ignorance.

The Evangelicals in Iowa and South Carolina are not typical of most Americans. These are the ones who believe the Earth is about 6,000 years old.

The Iowa Caucus system is not even real voting with booths, etc. it is basically just a group meeting for coffee, cake, and deciding as a small group which Republican clown they want to drive the clown car.

That makes no sense, since all the clowns are progressive liberals

Dear Guests:

I stated in a previous thread that the statistical data produced by another guest to refute my claims of Obama's devastating legacy spoke to quantitative but not qualitative nature of the Executive Actions, work-arounds using federal agencies etc. Indeed intent is of paramount importance. Its the difference between American soldiers storming a hill in Iwo Jima to protesters storming police stations because they hate pigs.

This Bush-Obama comparison used by progressives is really old, means nothing because we are discussing the present...what is happening now

Progressives use "presentism" meaning using the mores, customs, etc of today and project them back to previous periods in history. It is wrong and it is morally wrong. Its why college students today refuse and criticize the classics because they were written by racial angry white men

But they jump the shark, forgetting the accomplishments made concerning race over the intervening years. Today, frankly speaking, it is Obama and company (Sharptons, Black Lives Matter,etc) that are acting out as racists.

I predicted when Obama won his first election that he would act out "getting the man" (his disdain for all that is America)and not recognizing he is "the man"

Obama the Terrible has wasted 8 years trying to get even with angry white men when ironically white men today are the ones who elected him.

When that young white woman was murdered by an illegal alien in one of the 300 or so sanctuary cities not only did Obama not cry he did not acknowledge it until he was forced to and then his begrudging demeanor spoke to his insincerity

Voters are angry at all politicians ,Obama, congress lobbyist, etc

However the last thing voters need to do is vote in another president who will operate like a monarch . So in my view Trump, Cruz, Clinton are lousy choices because they will operate in the same manner and America will continue its slide to oblivion .

We need a grown up to occupy the White House and we need voters who will surpress their anger and channel it into securing as much detail as possible to make the wisest choice of this important right we call "our vote"

Personal Best Regards:

Before you get yourself needlessly worked up over nothing.....how about reminding us of all the great things Obama got done with the cooperation of the democratic controlled congress.

We will save you time.....no more than he got done when it was half and half and no less done when the democrats control zero!

Save the BS![/QUOTE]

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Ok, ok, ok, now. Let's just take a little look at the liberal plight. If one is to mention Obie's flaws, then we are racists. If we attempt to deny we are racists, then we are Tea B..ers from the ultra right wing. If we deny that we are even TP members, then we are back to being bigots. Lets give the libtards these points for the sake of argument or debate, if you wish and move on to the issues.

Now, for the libtards...er I mean for the Democrat liberal socialist members on here, what exactly has PRESIDENT Obama done to warrant respect of anyone? I was going to say respect of the minority groups or anyone, but that would single out one particular group and offend our little friends from the left on here.

Major accomplishments attributed to PRESIDENT Obama:

Doubling the national debt -- Bush's fault
Obamacare -- Would have been better with compromise...Republicans' fault
Bankrupt Obamacare -- private business fault
E.O.s found unconstitutional -- Supreme judges fault because Obama is an expert on constitution.
Black Lives matter -- All police are corrupt and need their guns taken away...Police fault
Occupy Wall Street -- Wealthy's fault
Iran deal with no release of American prisoners, funding released to Iran, Iran deal with Russia to procure weapons, trade sanctions retracted -- the great war protester, Kerry. Obama's minion.
Women's birth control -- all Americans get to pay via tax via the gov -- Great achievement by President Obama.
Baby body parts sold to highest bidder -- subsidized by gov, backed by Obama's minions

How has this affected me?
Higher health insurance premiums and co-payments, even though promised that the great Obamacare would lower my healthcare cost. Less health care coverage. Certain cancer testing is no longer covered, but thank goodness women's birth control pills are now free.
PC is at an all time high. Be careful what you say because the constitutional professor and minions want to limit freedom of speech. That makes me the bad guy, but gangsta rap and Black lives matter can chant "Kill cops" and "kill whitie."
Safe haven cities -- Obama's minions look the other way as laws are broken and lives are snuffed out by illegal aliens.
Arizona is sued by Obama's minions for attempting to enforce federal law.
Rioting in Baltimore allowed by corrupt mayor and backed by Obama as he states that the people had a good reason to destroy....he called it "protest."
Terrorism now called work place violence. -- Obama speak

Naw, this is getting boring. I'll let you all add to the list as the Liberals on here continue to divert the issue to blaming Bush, divert to Trump, or yell about Cruz being a Canadian. Perhaps, a small voice will pop and accuse me of still being a racist, bigot...starting to sound like a good thing coming from them.

Great post!!!!

But if you want to switch sides and join the morons, just follow these 20 rules:

*HOW TO BECOME A LIBERAL*

1. You must believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
2. You must believe the same teacher who cannot teach 4th graders to read is somehow qualified to teach them about sex.
3. You must believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of Iranian jihadists..
4. You must believe there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You must believe global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by SUVs.
6. You must believe gender roles are artificial, but homosexuality is natural.
7. You must be against capital punishment, but in favor of abortion on demand.
8. You must believe business creates oppression and the government creates prosperity.
9. You must believe self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
10. You must believe the military, not politicians, start wars where military personnel, not politicians, die.
11. You must believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution
12. You must believe taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
13. You must believe standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
14. You must believe Hillary Clinton and Elena Kagan are ladies.
15. You must believe the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
16. You must believe homosexual parades are Constitutionally protected, but manger displays at Christmas are illegal.
17. You must believe that anyone who dislikes "ANYTHING" about Obama is a racist.
18. You must believe that anyone who wants to pay less tax and take back the extreme weakening in Washington is an idiot.
19. You must believe that everything that is going wrong now is Bush's fault.
20. YOU MUST LOVE THE CHANGE YOU VOTED FOR!

You would know better than myself...regarding being a minority. I am neither black, Latino, female, homosexual. As far as being a conservative, the Republican party is about the size of the Democrat party, the Independents sway more to the right of center than to the left, so I guess I am not in the minority in that regard either. So, as regarding the slur on your messiah is concerned, if he can call the Republicans "the enemy" and tell them that they "can sit in the rear of the bus" then I guess a little play on his name is not totally unreasonable. If that is an indication of "ignorance" in your opinion, then perhaps you might want to go back to school and brush up on your vocabulary. If you wait a bit, you might be able to get some of that "FREE College" that the left wants to supply at the taxpayer's expense. After all, we all know how needy the left is. How does it feel to be NEEDY? And before you come back about how great your situation is is and how conservatives don't care about anyone else, in my case regarding the lazy, you are right. I don't care, and your reply is nothing more than amusing. So, amuse me if you wish.

...and The Gang Of Three continue to talk to themselves. Very boring talk, too.

Yes, we converse with each other. And our one and only liberal actually makes comments, then replies to himself, often congratulating himself on such a witty post. Unlike you, I find your little conversation with yourself very entertaining.

I do more reading on this forum than writing, but I often see the question - why compare Bush to Obama in your response instead of just responding directly? It seems obvious to me that even those who support Obama do not believe he can stand on his own merit. Otherwise, why the need to compare? It reminds me of what I was taught in my younger years, don't put someone else down to make yourself look good, it only makes you look insecure and foolish.

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They're just desperate. Anything to deflect and distract.