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I hope this is useful for people. The Law Library of Congress has a lot of good resources for legal research.

You might want to pass it on to the great authority on Constitutional law himself.....Obummer. The one that had to ask his A.G. how to get away with violating the 2nd Amendment.

I guess you agree with your republican cronies that it is okay for a person on the terrorist no fly list to be able to buy a gun.

There is no "terrorist no fly list." It's just a NO FLY list and it covers a lot of people that have done nothing wrong. We have a back ground check. Exactly how many of the past mass murders, or any murders would have been stopped by this idea? Doing something that is totally irrelevant is only a pretense by the establishment to fool the ignorant into a false sense of security, when the fact is that they know of no way to change anything. If laws are not enforced and intelligence sources have their hands tied behind their back, then nothing is accomplished. Are you stupid enough to believe that this idea would in any way be beneficial?

You seem to be an expert on guns, laws, and intelligence. How would you stop gun violence, or is it every man for themselves?

Good question! Let me see if I can answer it to your standards.

First off, I wouldn't make redundant, posturing laws and regulations, just to look like I had done something "progressive."

Second, I would push more gun handling safety education.
Third, I would encourage all states to have concealed carry laws, not just 40 or so that we have now.
Fourth, I would make an additional penalty for any crimes perpetrated that included the use of a gun, even if it is just brandished during the commission of a crime.
Fifth, I would discourage gun free zones.
Sixth, I would come down hard on gun violation punishments, using punishment as a deterrent.
Seventh, I would make it perfectly clear that over half the gun deaths are caused by suicide, not criminal intent.

That would be a start, but I would be open to other positive means of addressing the issue.

I would also make it perfectly clear that anyone that is scared of guns, cowards, or adverse to the loud noise they make, have the option of NOT purchasing a gun.

Would that stop ALL gun violence? No, but unless you can figure out how to eliminate all means of projectile propulsion, you will never get rid of objects being thrust at others. And that will never, ever happen. And even then, you will not eliminate evil intent or violence in the world.

So, instead of looking for a way of surrendering to bullying entities in the world, the pacifists need to quit attempting to hinder those that have a propensity to protect others.

And to add to the punishment as a deterrent, I would use execution of murderers as a means.

Finally, a well thought out answer. I don't believe that execution has ever been a deterrent to murder, but that has nothing to do with gun laws.

Execution is the absolute deterrent to murder, rape, etc. They won't be doing any of that again. Make it nasty and public and it might make a few stop and think before deciding to act violently. Nothing works 100%, but if it works for a few, then it can't hurt.

Kind of like you want to emulate Iran, Saudi Arabia, and North Korea? Great company you want to keep.

I totally understand that the 2nd amendment provide every the right to bear arms. But that is all it says, it doesn't say we don't have to go through a background check for example. So explain why a background check violates the 2nd amendment, seriously I would like to understand it. Please consider this request is an attempt for an open conversion on this subject.

It is hard to understand we can be required to have a driver's license to drive a car and have to purchase insurance for that car.

I should disclose that a gun owner threatened me with a concealed weapon on a public street a few years ago. He did spend the weekend in jail and after several court dates postponed hoping I would not be able to attend, I traveled for work every week, he did take a plea deal.

Did you misunderstand my one line statement? I was being a bit satiric when I suggested that someone should send information on the 2nd Amendment to Obama. After all he is supposed to be an expert on the Constitution, and yet he said he had to confer with the A.G. to get help with it. He's the one that was bragging about being a Constitutional authority it.

Do I have a problem with background checks for the purchase of a gun? Well, we already have a Federal requirement for a background check, so that's a moot point. Not that it will change anything related to the mass murders, terrorist attacks, robberies, drug shootings, etc. And not that it will eliminate half the shooting deaths which are due to suicide. But, if the gov wants to waste resources on a mostly impotent practice, who am I to criticize.

Understand that background checks will most likely NOT uncover any mental problems. It usually finds out if a person has a felony conviction. You do realize that a thorough background investigation like the one they do for a Federal clearance for classified information costs thousands of dollars, depending on how detailed they want to get with it.

Perhaps you don't understand that the two states that I have obtained a concealed carry permit, required classes, fingerprints, photos and background check before issuance.

As far as being confronted by a person with a concealed weapon, I have no idea what you went through. I don't believe that a background check will always discover a person that had anger issues. Just like a drivers test won't find a person that has a tendency of driving while drunk.

The gov believes that regulating, restricting and throwing money at the issue is going to fix everything. In my opinion, ONLY strict penalties, ENFORCED is going to slow down, but not stop crime. There will ALWAYS be crime and ALWAYS be violence. We have less violence in the Villages than most other places because we have more mature (older) people, that have a tendency to respect the law more than the younger generation. And since most seniors are financially secure here, there is really no need for crimes of avarice.

I wouldn't say that maintaining law and order makes us similar to those radical countries, but being liberals and coddling criminals makes us weak. It never ceases to amaze me how liberals have no problem killing innocent babies, but scream hysterically when it comes to punishing the evil criminals. I still haven't found a liberal that can logically explain that.

Which countries besides the United States, North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, and Iran execute people? Great company you want to be in.

Keep the convicted murderers in prison doing hard time. No coddling.

Problem with the background checks we already do is that they are only as good as the information in the system. The system currently provides information on some felons.

In 2010 over 80,000 felonies were committed by prohibited people trying to obtain a gun. 44...yes 44 were actually prosecuted.

There are more than enough laws and regulations on the books. How about we try something called prosecution! More laws and regs will mean NOTHING without the follow up procedures that are supposed to occur. It is quite simple really.

Gun violence is down almost 50% over the last couple decades (Source FBI data) And decreased 6% in 2014 According to the FBI UCR. And then let us look at the raw numbers....300,000,000(approx) guns legally owned by Americans and lets divide that by an average annual murder number Approx 10,000=0.00003333%

Many more people are killed with household objects each year than "assault" weapons.

Just more pontificating from a man who has done nothing for this country...but he did just release a few more terrorists from Guantanimo!

Prosecution emphasis to the letter of the law would mean increased incarceration of minorities......and the current race based mindset in the WH led by Obama and the media can not handle the reality.

Good post! :thumbup:

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Why spend all the money keeping them alive? If they killed someone, then they deserve to be killed. Works as a deterrent also. To a certain extent. I have no problem killing someone that tries to kill me. What's your problem? Not to make this personal, but unlike some I will protect my family....and yours if need be in a crisis. But, don't tie my hands or the Cops so that we can't do it when necessary. Sorry, but I have no/NO compassion for career criminals or those that are evil enough to take from others, either life or property.

You still did not answer which countries besides the USA, Iran, North Korea, and Saudi execute people? Why be associated with countries like that instead of civilized countries?

Understand that background checks will most likely NOT uncover any mental problems. It usually finds out if a person has a felony conviction. You do realize that a thorough background investigation like the one they do for a Federal clearance for classified information costs thousands of dollars, depending on how detailed they want to get with it.

Correct me if I am wrong, I do know about the Brady bill and I googled info on that before I posted. I think the point of this bill is to close the loop hole at gun shows which currently exempts these sellers from the paperwork.

Perhaps you don't understand that the two states that I have obtained a concealed carry permit, required classes, fingerprints, photos and background check before issuance.

The state in which this occurred required the gun to be registered and a concealed carry permit neither of which this guy had.

As far as being confronted by a person with a concealed weapon, I have no idea what you went through. I don't believe that a background check will always discover a person that had anger issues. Actually he was a scary little rabbit of a guy who was throwing rocks at dog...I asked him to stop and the the rest is history.

Thank you for the open discussion!

Only an ignorant liberal would "associate" our country with another because we have a common way to deal with evil. To answer you question regarding which countries also execute evil, I will allow you to do the research if that is an issue to you. I do not care about what other countries do in this situation. I care about my country and my family. You are the type that wants our country to be like others. If you were to travel a bit outside your own country, you would see that they all want to be like us. I do not see the fascination that the liberals have that insist on making our country like others, socialists countries. I have lived overseas half my life and can't see why. Maybe it's like the fantasy that young women have for vampire movies and romance books. They don't realize that it's all fiction, I guess. Just like the fiction that it doesn't cost you anything to have the gov be your nanny and give you a Free lifestyle.

You would be the first one to put a rope around a criminal's neck if he was to rape or kill a member of your family. So, get off your high horse about a criminal paying equally for his evil deeds. It has nothing to do with other countries and it's about time you liberals start realizing that we are leaders NOT followers.

We don't have a gun problem. We have a people problem. You can't detect mental illness with a computer, so it is almost impossible to stop a suicide if one really wishes to kill themselves. Half or more of our gun deaths are suicides. We have a 50% reduction in gun violence in the past thirty years. This is actually getting better, not worst like the president wishes you to believe. He needs a radical agenda that he can bait the conservatives with before he leaves office in disgrace for a failed eight years. He is a petulant child that wishes to lash out before he leaves the room. I am sure he will slam the door on his way out.

Obama has helped gun sales in America, so I guess we can give him a bit of credit for boosting that part of the economy. Unfortunately, the people trust the gov less now than when he entered office. I just hope that he doesn't cause a civil war to erupt before he is ushered out of the White House.

Your request for intellectual dialog is miss placed on this forum. I've been following this post as I too am concerned with status quo. I have carry permits in Florida and my old home state of Maine. Maine just implemented a new law that does not require any type of permit to carry a concealed firearm. If you are not a convicted felon and can maintain a body temperature around 98 degrees you qualify. I would have no problem with registering all my firearms and submitting myself to a stop and frisk policy. A mandatory federal licensing to carry with severe penalty for violation coupled with stop and frisk would reduce a good deal of the daily shooting we experience in this country. That would not infringe on 2nd amendment, IMO.

I agree. However, I would like to make one point. Stop and Frisk is a violation of our rights of search and seizure and the police having to obtain a search warrant. Just making a point, even if I have no problem with stop and frisk. However, remember there are always those energetic young police officers that may just stop and frisk you when you are carrying and automatically assume that you were the bad guy. I realize that this is not a normal occurrence but that's kind of why we have laws to protect us from unlawful search and seizure. For every good idea, there is also a possible negative aspect to it.

I am the one looking for intellectual dialog...it went well this time. I have a summer home in a state that has an open carry policy. Recently a man was seen outside with a long gun, someone called 911 to report it the operator replied this was a open carry state. A few minutes later he walked down the street and started a killing spree.

I agree with you that we should be able to regulate firearms without violating the 2nd amendment.

There are problems with stop and frisk but as more handguns are easily available it is the most cost efficient method to make a real impact. A lot of talk about mentally ill and putting more people in jail but not much talk about raising taxes to pay for it.

I believe that this president is on a redundant crusade. Violent crime has dropped about 50% in the last thirty years and facts are pretty much showing that more guns equal less crime.