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alwann 01-10-2016 08:46 AM

Handicap parking
 
I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

cquick 01-10-2016 11:17 AM

Our son is in a wheelchair, and in the wintertime, we very rarely get a "handicap parking spot". We just walk a little farther. I will add that we are lucky, because we don't need to use the ramp van all the time. If we go in our car, we fold the wheelchair in the back and help him get into it from the car.

rjm1cc 01-10-2016 11:38 AM

Try Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

I think more spaces can be provided and still be in compliance with the law.

CWGUY 01-10-2016 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1169350)
I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

:read: I would think it is all spelled out in the "ADA"

KeepingItReal 01-10-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1169350)
I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

There can never be enough, those that really don't need them will take them all no matter how many there are leaving none for those that really do require them such as those with wheelchairs or crutches. Good to think about this once injury has healed. Not enough REAL enforcement is the problem.

Fred R 01-10-2016 02:15 PM

The specifics are spelled out in the Americans With Disability Act. The law applies to all states and political subdivisions, with certain exceptions of course.

justjim 01-10-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1169575)
There can never be enough, those that really don't need them will take them all no matter how many there are leaving none for those that really do require them such as those with wheelchairs or crutches. Good to think about this once injury has healed. Not enough REAL enforcement is the problem.

One place where there was plenty was at church this morning. Oh, in case you were wondering, it was NCUMC and the 9:15 service where there was close to 900 in the middle service. We too never paid much attention to handicap parking until wife had a knee replacement. I totally agree there are too few spaces around the Squares.

rjm1cc 01-10-2016 03:05 PM

Hopefully those that are not qualified to park in the spaces do not.

golfing eagles 01-10-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1169601)
Hopefully those that are not qualified to park in the spaces do not.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, and I saw a unicorn yesterday and got a quarter from the tooth fairy.

(OMG, I'm dating myself---kids today probably get $100)

tomwed 01-10-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1169637)
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, and I saw a unicorn yesterday and got a quarter from the tooth fairy.

(OMG, I'm dating myself---kids today probably get $100)

Is it easy to get handicapped tags? Maybe that's why there aren't enough spots. What percentage of the population could potentially get handicapped tags? Maybe more drop-off spots would be more effective? There was a thread about picking up groceries by parking in front of the store.

spring_chicken 01-10-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1169637)
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, and I saw a unicorn yesterday and got a quarter from the tooth fairy.

(OMG, I'm dating myself---kids today probably get $100)

Go to any softball field any weekday. Handicap spaces are all taken by people who grab their bag out of the trunk and go play softball. Even happens at track practice. Handicap spaces taken by people running on the track for an hour.

asianthree 01-10-2016 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1169643)
Is it easy to get handicapped tags? Maybe that's why there aren't enough spots. What percentage of the population could potentially get handicapped tags? Maybe more drop-off spots would be more effective? There was a thread about picking up groceries by parking in front of the store.

I know those who have a permit because of fibromyalgia. Then there are those who are symptomatic and still try to walk with out a wheel chair. I never question a handicap sticker, since I have no idea what tHeir handicap. But in some states you can not park in a space if the other is not handicap. You must drop off and park in a regular space

tomwed 01-10-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1169682)
I know those who have a permit because of fibromyalgia. Then there are those who are symptomatic and still try to walk with out a wheel chair. I never question a handicap sticker, since I have no idea what tHeir handicap. But in some states you can not park in a space if the other is not handicap. You must drop off and park in a regular space

I'm not judging either. I didn't know about the drop off states. It sounds fair.

dbussone 01-10-2016 05:38 PM

Handicap parking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1169643)
Is it easy to get handicapped tags? Maybe that's why there aren't enough spots. What percentage of the population could potentially get handicapped tags? Maybe more drop-off spots would be more effective? There was a thread about picking up groceries by parking in front of the store.


You must pick a special form from the County. Then your doctor must sign and certify your need. The County will then issue 2 blue hanging tags, or a license plate for your car. A special red hanging tag is available for a short period when a temporary ailment is involved. I know the blue tags have an expiration date of four years, and must be certified on a continuing basis. I don't know about the term for the license plates, if any.

My wife elected to use the blue tag rather than a license plate. She was concerned about being too visible a target.

spring_chicken 01-10-2016 06:22 PM

Sorry, but it's very easy to get a handicap tag when you don't need it. There are unscrupulous doctors everywhere. I've heard softball players brag about it when everyone else is walking to their legally parked car. One even gave the name of 2 doctors who will help you get one.

Mikeod 01-10-2016 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1169701)
Sorry, but it's very easy to get a handicap tag when you don't need it. There are unscrupulous doctors everywhere. I've heard softball players brag about it when everyone else is walking to their legally parked car. One even gave the name of 2 doctors who will help you get one.

Why is the doctor unscrupulous? What about unscrupulous patients trying to get a tag when they don't need it? Takes two to tango. Just another example of the "all about me" attitude some people possess. You see it on the roads, on the golf courses, at the squares, and elsewhere.

spring_chicken 01-10-2016 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1169715)
Why is the doctor unscrupulous? What about unscrupulous patients trying to get a tag when they don't need it? Takes two to tango. Just another example of the "all about me" attitude some people possess. You see it on the roads, on the golf courses, at the squares, and elsewhere.

Why is the doctor unscrupolous? When he says to a patient "you need to say x, y, and z to me and I'll get you the tag, knowing that x, y, and z aren't true.
Not sure why you think one profession is free from dishonest practice, but it is just as full of is as any other.

Some people have a real classicism issue. I know you'd love to believe that anyone not wearing a hoody that puts an MD behind their name is pure as the driven snow. But it simply isn't true.

Topspinmo 01-10-2016 09:12 PM

IMO handicapped parking spaces should be for people who are paralyzed, confined to wheelchairs, legs missing, or on crutches. The other day I seen guy get out of new vette and walk briskly into the store. Heck, I couldn't get out of go cart and sprint to the store without stretching my back first. But, opinion are are like && everybody got them?

spring_chicken 01-10-2016 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1169771)
IMO handicapped parking spaces should be for people who are paralyzed, confined to wheelchairs, legs missing, or on crutches. The other day I seen guy get out of new vette and walk briskly into the store. Heck, I couldn't get out of go cart and sprint to the store without stretching my back first. But, opinion are are like && everybody got them?

Same as the people who hop out and go play softball, or run around the track for an hour. Some will only believe it's a generation other than theirs. Unfortunately, their generation has just as many looking for a free ride and a payday. Some of us just don't stick our heads in the sand.

JoMar 01-11-2016 12:03 AM

Everybody feel better now....:)

golfing eagles 01-11-2016 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1169732)
Why is the doctor unscrupolous? When he says to a patient "you need to say x, y, and z to me and I'll get you the tag, knowing that x, y, and z aren't true.
Not sure why you think one profession is free from dishonest practice, but it is just as full of is as any other.

Some people have a real classicism issue. I know you'd love to believe that anyone not wearing a hoody that puts an MD behind their name is pure as the driven snow. But it simply isn't true.

And just WHAT do you think the doctor gets out of it???? The joy of filling out yet another form?????.. Sorry, but I'll take the MD over a hoodie any day.

BobnBev 01-15-2016 01:28 PM

Unbelieveable
 
I was at Winn-Dixie this morning at LSL. Watched a NY registered car pull into a handicapped space, on an angle, blocking the walkway. The bimbo, about 46, 5'11" wearing skin tight jeans and stiletto heel boots, looked like a streetwalker from NYC, put the HP placard on mirror and went bouncing into WD.
When she came out i said to her, "Nice parking job". She said she didn't want to hit the car in the next space. The car was nowhere near the line. I told her if she couldn't park in that big a space, she shouldn't be driving.

I'm not one to question whether one is disabled or not, but c'mon.......

I have pictures of this on my cell phone, including the NY reg, but I don't know how to post them on here.

Rant over.:police:

golfing eagles 01-15-2016 01:37 PM

Good thing for you she didn't have a long gun and a short temper!

RickeyD 01-15-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1171958)
I was at Winn-Dixie this morning at LSL. Watched a NY registered car pull into a handicapped space, on an angle, blocking the walkway. The bimbo, about 46, 5'11" wearing skin tight jeans and stiletto heel boots, looked like a streetwalker from NYC, put the HP placard on mirror and went bouncing into WD.

When she came out i said to her, "Nice parking job". She said she didn't want to hit the car in the next space. The car was nowhere near the line. I told her if she couldn't park in that big a space, she shouldn't be driving.



I'm not one to question whether one is disabled or not, but c'mon.......



I have pictures of this on my cell phone, including the NY reg, but I don't know how to post them on here.



Rant over.:police:


Quite a story ! If she displayed a handicapped sticker why would you want to post her tag number ???

RickeyD 01-15-2016 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1171962)
Good thing for you she didn't have a long gun and a short temper!


Or a short knife and a big attitude.

Bogie Shooter 01-15-2016 01:42 PM

How was anybody impacted by the way she parked?

graciegirl 01-15-2016 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1169817)
And just WHAT do you think the doctor gets out of it???? The joy of filling out yet another form?????.. Sorry, but I'll take the MD over a hoodie any day.



Me too. The percentage of decent folks with M.D. after their names if far greater than those with hoodies.


Why? Because I said so. I think I am guilty of classism. I will look it up. I am not guilty of ageism though.

spring_chicken 01-15-2016 03:24 PM

I realize that reading comprehension is hard, but nobody suggested you go a "hoodie" for medical care. Although my doctor does wear a hoodie when it's cold, so I should probably find another one.

kcrazorbackfan 01-15-2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1169350)
I wonder what the law or regulations say about how many disabled parking spaces must be allocated for public places.

More to the point, do age-qualified communities get more or the same number as every place else?

Surely there are not enough of them in The Villages. They're all gone whenever my spouse and I go out -- and this has been the case even before the seasonal people arrived.

Spouse suffered a foot injury and has been hobbled for a few months. Before this happened, I'd never noticed the shortage of disabled parking spots. Heck, it seems only two are allocated in the squares. The rest of them are way back behind buildings some where and not convenient, even if you can find an empty one. We make do, but it's still frustrating.

One of the reasons there is not enough is because I see GOLFCARTS WITH R/A TAGS parked right in the middle of handicap parking spots. HAVING AN R/A TAG DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO PARK IN A HANDICAP SPOT - QUIT ACTING PRIVELGED/ENTITLED/STUPID!

PennBF 01-15-2016 08:46 PM

Consideration
 
I have a Disability tag and although it is hard to walk if I pull in and there are handicap spots and only one is available I don't take it as someone is probably worse off than myself. Drivers should be considerate and be aware that some have problems that are worse than yours so give them a little thought. I have a problem when someone parks in a handicap spot, gets out of the car and run into a store, etc. They should be ashamed of their selves. :(

CFrance 01-15-2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1172092)
One of the reasons there is not enough is because I see GOLFCARTS WITH R/A TAGS parked right in the middle of handicap parking spots. HAVING AN R/A TAG DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO PARK IN A HANDICAP SPOT - QUIT ACTING PRIVELGED/ENTITLED/STUPID!

What's an R/A tag?

BobnBev 01-15-2016 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1171962)
Good thing for you she didn't have a long gun and a short temper!

Actually, it's a good thing for her.

BobnBev 01-15-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1171964)
Quite a story ! If she displayed a handicapped sticker why would you want to post her tag number ???

Because, obviously, she wasn't handicapped. She is most likely living with her elderly parents.

BobnBev 01-15-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1171966)
How was anybody impacted by the way she parked?

So then, what you're saying it's OK to break the law, if doing so, doesn't bother or impact anyone else. Sad way to look at things, IMHO.

scarecrow1 01-16-2016 07:28 PM

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

golfing eagles 01-16-2016 07:31 PM

another satisfied customer.......

dbussone 01-16-2016 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1172109)
What's an R/A tag?


It's a type of wrap you can put on your golf cart. It signifies to the ambassadors that you have permission to do some things with your golf cart that others may not. For example, get closer to the green with your cart than is typically allowed. R/A = reasonable accommodation. Most people I know who have one also qualify for a handicap tag - but they are not interchangeable.

dbussone 01-16-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scarecrow1 (Post 1172536)
You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....[emoji85][emoji86][emoji87]


I have no idea what the ADA requirements for handicap spaces are would you please tell me?

Topspinmo 01-16-2016 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scarecrow1 (Post 1172536)
You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

Good more space for those who need it.

outlaw 01-16-2016 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1169817)
And just WHAT do you think the doctor gets out of it???? The joy of filling out yet another form?????.. Sorry, but I'll take the MD over a hoodie any day.

Hey Doc, no one is saying all doctors are complicit in this fraud. But there are enough. What does a doctor get out of this? An office visit charge and maybe a couple procedure codes? Have you heard of the medicare fraud in south florida? Millions of dollars to a single doctor! I think we had one in TV recently. Times have changed. No more Dr Welbys.


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