TV T Time System
 

I recently put in a a request for all courses below 466 with only 4 golfers. No one had any points. One person was a guest. How is it possible not to get a T Time? I had a 4 hour window of times to golf. Was it because of the quest? You would think TV would like to accommodate guests so they could experience golf in TV.

From golfthevillages.com

"We encourage you to attend our complimentary Good Golf School, in which The Villages Tee Time System is discussed in depth. Please call us at 750-4558, to schedule yourself for the next available school!" :thumbup:

How many of the three non-guests were priority members and was the guest with a priority member? The "points" are only used to break ties, so if you had 3 non priority villagers and a non priority guest, you had 2+2+2+7=13, if all priority members 1+1+1+6=9, and you might be competing with foursomes ranging from 4 to 8. Your 0 points only helps once they got to the 9 or 13 level of assigning tee times.

It is because of your "Guest"... There is a 2-tier point system. First one is "Placement" points, the Second is "Play" points. The "Placement" points is what got you. Having a "Guest" means that your request is processed *AFTER* every other request that contains all Resident Villagers, no matter how many points the Resident Villagers had.

It's all explained in the Villages Golf Guide.

No Tee Time
 

By all courses, do you mean executive AND championship? But if it was for executive-only in prime hours -- mid-morning to early afternoon -- it's possible to get denied. Remember, the snowbirds don't have a lot of points either. As suggested, contacting the reservations people may get better insight.

We had the same thing happen with no points and no guests for exec courses north or south of 466.:sad:

How does one find out how many points he/she has against them?

The online system has this information under - Review Play History.

I do tee times for a large group every week and having a guest will impact your ability to get a tee time this time of year. I assume you were referring to the executive courses??

Mike I assume by your description "all courses below"....that you are referring to executive courses. With no points your guest also would carry no points.
The Tee Time system goofed somehow.

If my assumption is wrong and you were referring to championship Priority takes precedent and with the priority program believe it or not priority member and guest take precedent over priority member and a resident without priority.

finally as you know this is prime season. There was another thread concerning renting and this is prime seasonal resident and rental season and The Villages allows renters to stand in the place of residents who rent their homes. Consequently there are more request for golf than allotted tee times

There are two sets of points. Your points that you receive after each round play a small part in determining whether or not you get a reservation. Much more important are the placement points. For a championship course reservation, a priority member resident has 1 point. A non-priority member resident has 6 points. Fewerer points win. So you can see that going up against priority members in the winter season is difficult.

Please see post #4 as I believe it is correct with respect to the impact of guests on when your tee time request is evaluated, if you are referring to executive courses.

You may need to increase the number of courses and expand the window of time. Adding courses that are not as popular may also help (i.e. Pelican).

This time of year guest is the kiss of death on the executive courses.

For sure and to further quantify the issue this time of year... This AM, I looked for a time for Thursday on any executive.

There is not a single tee time for a twosome between 8:41 and 4:02.

That surprised me...

Normally if you make a request 5-7 days in advance (the earlier the better), you will get to play.

I am not sure if when you put your request in makes any difference. I think it's points, courses, and the size of your time window. And, of course, the amount in your group.

This is not the case. When you put in a request has no bearing as long as it is in ON TIME for the 'drawing' (3 days in advance).

With regards to the executive courses, it is 3-7 days in advance and I do not believe it matters when you make the request within that window of time. The requests are apparently processed between 12:00 and 12:30 AM 3 days in advance. For example, to play on friday, have your request in by 11:59 PM (or so) on monday. At 12:30AM on tuesday you will see what course and time you have been assigned or you will be informed that your request could not be satisfied. You can also receive e-mail notification.

If you have a large number of points and/or request few courses and/or have a narrow window of time and/or have a large group, you may not get a tee time this time of year.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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Work around...
 

you put your tee time in with 4 residents. One resident knows this, but agrees not to play. When you show up at the starters shack you tell them so-and-so can't play and you'd like to include this non-resident. Voila!

Now this would not work if there is a waiting list of residents for any tee time at that course, but I've never heard of it.

Yes, that will work, but they monitor this. Called the "ghost golfer". If it's done frequently, it can result in suspended golf privileges.

I've wondered if putting in an early request gives golfers an advantage.
It was my understanding that as long as a request is made prior to assignment time, that an early request isn't important.
Experienced golfers seem to have conflicting opinions. :confused:

The use of ghost golfers is a despicable practice and should result in a suspension of privileges and each time repeated by the same offender result in a longer suspension period of time

I think that if a person "cheated" just to get a tee time, they would most likely cheat and lie once they are on the course. Not someone I would want to associate with. I have seen posts from the OP, and highly doubt he would use this ruse. And from seeing your previous posts, I highly doubt you would either.

bagboy: That reminds me of a guy I worked for. He cheated and did it badly so much so that the guys at the office made up a long poem about him. All I can remember was

"and when he made a hole in one"
"he thought himself a hero
"so when he went"
" to marked his score
"he gave himself zero" :D

This is called cheating. Do it enough times and you will be watching not playing.

The earlier the better in your scenario means nothing. It doesn't matter wether you put your tee time request in 7 days in advance or waited until the last minute. Placement points run the show.

I know someone who did what you're saying on a regular basis and he got caught and lost his golfing priveledges for a year. That's called trying to get around the system & it's not fair to the residents of the villages.

LOL, that is funny...and I can almost believe someone would do that.