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Guest 01-12-2016 10:00 AM

President Barack Obama on Donald Trump and Other Stuff.
 
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I can see Donald Trump winning the White House. Kind of a nightmare but it could happen. :22yikes:

Guest 01-12-2016 10:28 AM

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I can see Donald Trump winning the White House. Kind of a nightmare but it could happen. :22yikes:

How would you be able to tell, after the past 8 years?

Guest 01-12-2016 11:11 AM

Obama has caused the bar to be set at record lows. Anybody except Clinton or Bernie will be an improvement.....yes even Joe!!

Guest 01-12-2016 12:13 PM

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Obama has caused the bar to be set at record lows. Anybody except Clinton or Bernie will be an improvement.....yes even Joe!!

:agree:...and what has the country gone to if they think Biden is an improvement? Is there any hope for the country?

Guest 01-12-2016 12:23 PM

If you need a good reason to vote for Donald Trump, here it is -- a quote from "Rev." Al Sharpton: "If Donald Trump is elected president, I am moving back to Africa."

I am thinking of changing my vote, to Trump.

Guest 01-12-2016 12:27 PM

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If you need a good reason to vote for Donald Trump, here it is -- a quote from "Rev." Al Sharpton: "If Donald Trump is elected president, I am moving back to Africa."

I am thinking of changing my vote, to Trump.

I did not think the man could ever make a statement that I totslly support.

He has no idea how much of an incentive and boost he has provided in his support of Trump.

And we all thought he was little more than a bigoted racist!!

:D

Guest 01-12-2016 12:55 PM

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I did not think the man could ever make a statement that I totslly support.

He has no idea how much of an incentive and boost he has provided in his support of Trump.

And we all thought he was little more than a bigoted racist!!

:D

Naw, I never thought he was more than a bigoted racist. :highfive:

Guest 01-12-2016 01:04 PM

Trump Could be just what USA needs
 
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How would you be able to tell, after the past 8 years?

AMEN
Agreed

Guest 01-12-2016 02:41 PM

Do you honestly believe that the Republican National Committee is so stupid as to let Trump have the nomination?

Of course not. They will have Rubio as the nominee.

Big question then will Trump go it as a Third Party? If he does, the Democrat Hillary gets in with no sweat.

Rubio vs Clinton with no Third Party would be almost equal split of popular vote but Electoral Votes would go Democrat.

Good scenarios to think about.

Guest 01-12-2016 02:47 PM

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Do you honestly believe that the Republican National Committee is so stupid as to let Trump have the nomination?

Of course not. They will have Rubio as the nominee.

Big question then will Trump go it as a Third Party? If he does, the Democrat Hillary gets in with no sweat.

Rubio vs Clinton with no Third Party would be almost equal split of popular vote but Electoral Votes would go Democrat.

Good scenarios to think about.

If Rubio gets the nomination, it will be Rubio versus Sanders, the communist endorsed by moveon.org. Hillary will be past tense and put out to pasture, finally. And Slick Willie will drop her as if she was a man hating old witch. Hmm, did I say "as if?"

Guest 01-12-2016 03:09 PM

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Do you honestly believe that the Republican National Committee is so stupid as to let Trump have the nomination?

Of course not. They will have Rubio as the nominee.

Big question then will Trump go it as a Third Party? If he does, the Democrat Hillary gets in with no sweat.

Rubio vs Clinton with no Third Party would be almost equal split of popular vote but Electoral Votes would go Democrat.

Good scenarios to think about.

Aren't you missing a bit of a point?
Do you think the RNC will turn their back on Trump when he is the more than double and some triple digit leader at every juncture?
Do you think they can just ignore the position he has, blow past him and the American people to put in Rubio or any othe so far also running candidate?

You must be too influenced by the Obama administration's go forward with what ever one wants regardless the American people's feelings.
Too bad....but it ain't gonna happen.

Do you really think people are that stupid to allow the politics to dictate their direction at a point in time when they have finally found a non insider, non politician, non crony candidate.........you may not like it but that is not going to happen!!

Guest 01-12-2016 03:19 PM

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Do you honestly believe that the Republican National Committee is so stupid as to let Trump have the nomination?

Of course not. They will have Rubio as the nominee.

Big question then will Trump go it as a Third Party? If he does, the Democrat Hillary gets in with no sweat.

Rubio vs Clinton with no Third Party would be almost equal split of popular vote but Electoral Votes would go Democrat.

Good scenarios to think about.

And if that doesn't work out for you, will you shout "gerrymandering?"

I believe that congress would get public support if they were to do away with Electoral voting. There is really no need for it today. I do realize that it takes a lot of bi-partisan work to get it done.

Guest 01-12-2016 03:42 PM

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And if that doesn't work out for you, will you shout "gerrymandering?"

I believe that congress would get public support if they were to do away with Electoral voting. There is really no need for it today. I do realize that it takes a lot of bi-partisan work to get it done.

Bipartisan work?
Redefined in today's parlance......When the opposition finally sees fit to do it your way.

Guest 01-12-2016 04:40 PM

True, the Electoral College was put in place way back in the late 1700's and is outdated now - as it has been for at least 150 years.

However, it is part of the Constitution and thus would take a Constitutional Amendment to remove it. I really do not see any Congress and a President all in agreement in this amendment at the same time. It would then have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states which would take more than one President's term.

Politics, huh?

Guest 01-12-2016 04:44 PM

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True, the Electoral College was put in place way back in the late 1700's and is outdated now - as it has been for at least 150 years.

However, it is part of the Constitution and thus would take a Constitutional Amendment to remove it. I really do not see any Congress and a President all in agreement in this amendment at the same time. It would then have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states which would take more than one President's term.

Politics, huh?

That's true. Funny how it seems like the majority, both sides, would like to see it gone. I doubt I could find anyone that would want to keep it. I wonder what would be the reasoning for anyone to vote against getting rid of it. It would probably be a good test.

Guest 01-12-2016 06:08 PM

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That's true. Funny how it seems like the majority, both sides, would like to see it gone. I doubt I could find anyone that would want to keep it. I wonder what would be the reasoning for anyone to vote against getting rid of it. It would probably be a good test.

My guess would be that either the D or R would not cooperate with the other party in the fear that it would give an advantage to the other side. Since it would take more than one President's term to vote it through Congress and have it ratified by 3/4 of states in more voting, it probably won't happen.

A term limit amendment for Congressmen has more of a chance of passing before electoral college reform.

Guest 01-12-2016 11:20 PM

Psst, I have a secret to tell you Republicans. The electoral college give a huge increased benefit to small population states and dilutes the vote of large states. Now, think if you can, what political party is dominant in small population states? Oh, yes it is the GOP. So go ahead and amend the Constitution if you want to damage the chances of GOP national candidates. No electoral college, meet President Al Gore.

Guest 01-13-2016 05:06 AM

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Psst, I have a secret to tell you Republicans. The electoral college give a huge increased benefit to small population states and dilutes the vote of large states. Now, think if you can, what political party is dominant in small population states? Oh, yes it is the GOP. So go ahead and amend the Constitution if you want to damage the chances of GOP national candidates. No electoral college, meet President Al Gore.

Dear Guests

If you assume that voter fraud is conceivable than a pure popular vote can be manipulated in favor of one candidate. While I too have questions about the viability of the Electoral Vote today I wonder what we could implement in its place that would provide the kind of fairness, balance and transparency required of our voting system,

This election year is very different than previous years in that there is no incumbent running either president or vice president. Its different because of Trump, Cruz Sanders. At this point is is just plain lunacy as to what's going on. While Trump and Cruz look strong the fact is that pundits do not know anymore than the rest of us. Its still a long way to November and anything can happen but by March 15th or so the country should have a good idea of where voters stand.

As to Obama when he leaves the White House I will think of him no more, unless the rumors floating around come true and he is elected secretary general of the UN then my God the chaos continues because Obama the Terrible will continue his personal battle against America

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 01-13-2016 06:11 AM

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Psst, I have a secret to tell you Republicans. The electoral college give a huge increased benefit to small population states and dilutes the vote of large states. Now, think if you can, what political party is dominant in small population states? Oh, yes it is the GOP. So go ahead and amend the Constitution if you want to damage the chances of GOP national candidates. No electoral college, meet President Al Gore.

Psst, do you even understand what you are saying? If there was no electoral vote, then the election would be based solely on popular vote, not state by state, but total vote. It would not matter the make up of how many Dems or Repubs in a county, it would be the total vote. Go with the total majority of votes in the COUNTRY, not by state. I don't care about the idiot Gore now. That is the past. Why is it that Liberals have to live in the past? They sure seem to forget about it when it comes to slavery and women's rights. They were the ones against it. I realize that liberals believe that it is much easier to allow the government to make important decisions for them.

If a Republican wins an election, the Dems always blame it on gerrymandering. They don't want to change the system, because then they will have no excuse for being losers. Another reason is they want to rig the elections by refusing to allow voter ID, which in reality is a constitutional mandate. The constitution says that the voter MUST be a citizen. The only way you can enforce that mandate is to mandate showing proof of citizenship. A voter ID card such as a voter registration card should require U.S. citizenship proof to obtain in order to be constitutional. I am surprised that someone hasn't taken this to the supreme court. Requiring voter ID is not disenfranchising anyone today. Everyone has to provide ID to fly, drive, purchase medicine, purchase alcohol, etc. There is no excuse, regardless of whining from the left.

Guest 01-13-2016 06:57 AM

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If Rubio gets the nomination, it will be Rubio versus Sanders, the communist endorsed by moveon.org. Hillary will be past tense and put out to pasture, finally. And Slick Willie will drop her as if she was a man hating old witch. Hmm, did I say "as if?"

And if Sanders is president, will you leave the country? Maybe you will go into the streets with your 22 and take back the country. What a buffoon.

Guest 01-13-2016 07:48 AM

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And if Sanders is president, will you leave the country? Maybe you will go into the streets with your 22 and take back the country. What a buffoon.

Where did you come up with such a loonie reply like that based on the comment? Do you have a mental issue, because there was no mention of leaving the country or violence. I think everyone reading your comment knows who the "buffoon" really is.

By the way, I gave my 22 to my grandson before I moved down here. Although, he just shot his first ten point buck with a 30-30. Not bad for an 11 year old.

Don't worry, if the country needed to be taken back, a 22 would probably be the last choice of weapons. But, how would a liberal know the difference? Being pacifists, they could hardly be expected to know which end of the gun to point away from themselves.

Guest 01-13-2016 07:55 AM

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And if Sanders is president, will you leave the country? Maybe you will go into the streets with your 22 and take back the country. What a buffoon.

Sanders won't have a chance to be elected president, so there is no worry at all. He won't get any of the votes from the South.

Will you leave the country if Trump is elected? Will you go into the streets and stomp your feet in a tantrum and protest with the Black Lives Matter cretins? I know you won't take a 22 up, because we know that liberals are more into destroying property and making a lot of noise. Perhaps, you will defecate in public to show those darn conservatives. That's what you did in the Wall St protests.

Guest 01-13-2016 08:11 AM

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Sanders won't have a chance to be elected president, so there is no worry at all. He won't get any of the votes from the South.

Will you leave the country if Trump is elected? Will you go into the streets and stomp your feet in a tantrum and protest with the Black Lives Matter cretins? I know you won't take a 22 up, because we know that liberals are more into destroying property and making a lot of noise. Perhaps, you will defecate in public to show those darn conservatives. That's what you did in the Wall St protests.

This is a non-issue for BOTH of you! Sanders will not be the Democrat nominee. Trump will not be the Republican nominee.

Nominees will be Rubio and Clinton. :thumbup:

Guest 01-13-2016 08:28 AM

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This is a non-issue for BOTH of you! Sanders will not be the Democrat nominee. Trump will not be the Republican nominee.

Nominees will be Rubio and Clinton. :thumbup:

Works for me, although it's not yet a sure thing. It's already been decided that Rubio can handily beat Chillery.

Guest 01-13-2016 08:38 AM

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Works for me, although it's not yet a sure thing. It's already been decided that Rubio can handily beat Chillery.

Lots can - and will- happen between now and November. It is going to be very interesting to watch it play out. :thumbup:

Guest 01-13-2016 08:43 AM

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Lots can - and will- happen between now and November. It is going to be very interesting to watch it play out. :thumbup:

I saw something interesting a few days ago, speaking of Rubio and Cruz. The article stated that the Mexican American vote would not be going with either Rubio or Cruz. It seems as though the Mexican Americans do not get along politically with Cuban Americans due to immigration policies as well as cultural differences. The Mexican Americans will stick with Democrats.

Guest 01-13-2016 10:05 AM

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I saw something interesting a few days ago, speaking of Rubio and Cruz. The article stated that the Mexican American vote would not be going with either Rubio or Cruz. It seems as though the Mexican Americans do not get along politically with Cuban Americans due to immigration policies as well as cultural differences. The Mexican Americans will stick with Democrats.

And there are a lot of non mexican democrats that will not if the candidates are Clinton or Sanders.

Guest 01-13-2016 10:16 AM

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I saw something interesting a few days ago, speaking of Rubio and Cruz. The article stated that the Mexican American vote would not be going with either Rubio or Cruz. It seems as though the Mexican Americans do not get along politically with Cuban Americans due to immigration policies as well as cultural differences. The Mexican Americans will stick with Democrats.

Of course the illegal Mexicans will vote Democrat. That's a given. :D


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