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Guest 01-14-2016 09:30 AM

Rafael Edward Cruz
 
Don't do as I do, do as I say. It was just a small loan, I didn't mean to forget to tell anyone.

Guest 01-14-2016 10:03 AM

Are you replying to a post, starting a new thread or what? Try again, using some help from your sitter, or come back in a few years.

Guest 01-14-2016 10:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171430)
Are you replying to a post, starting a new thread or what? Try again, using some help from your sitter, or come back in a few years.

You know my mother used to say "I you can't say something nice then don't say anything".

You might want to take that to heart!

Guest 01-14-2016 10:12 AM

To the second post on this thread. Half the people on here are a-- h----

Guest 01-14-2016 10:15 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171437)
You know my mother used to say "I you can't say something nice then don't say anything".

You might want to take that to heart!

No, I did not know your mother, and I hate to disparage your mother, but I doubt she said exactly that.....:1rotfl:

Guest 01-14-2016 10:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171437)
You know my mother used to say "I you can't say something nice then don't say anything".

You might want to take that to heart!

Does that include the first post?

Guest 01-14-2016 10:27 AM

Should be a fun time tonight for Donald.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-for-ted-cruz/

Guest 01-14-2016 10:28 AM

So, to the OP, is there a point or subject to the one line opinion? Is there some reference point or link that you forgot to provide? Or, maybe this is a waste of attention.

Guest 01-14-2016 10:31 AM

The other post is about his "birther" status. This post is about his not reporting a loan of 1M from Wall Street, but I wouldn't expect you genius Tea Party people to know how to read. Just blame things on the liberal media and one of the best Presidents ever, President Obama.

Guest 01-14-2016 10:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171448)
Should be a fun time tonight for Donald.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-for-ted-cruz/

This should have been linked on the first post. Then it wouldn't require mind reading to figure out the subject.

When I was reading the article, I thought it had come from the Huffington Post instead of the Washington Post. I guess they are about the same.

A lot of liberals seem to be getting real nervous. So nervous that they are concentrating on Cruz's every detail. That is a good thing, though. And I am saying that as a conservative. I want our future leaders to be completely vetted, so that we don't end up with an inept amateur like the one currently taking up valuable space and wasting oxygen in the White House. But, come on liberals, how about vetting Trump also? Or, are you so afraid of him that you are hiding your children before opening up on him? I think the liberals are scared of Trump.

Guest 01-14-2016 10:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171453)
The other post is about his "birther" status. This post is about his not reporting a loan of 1M from Wall Street, but I wouldn't expect you genius Tea Party people to know how to read. Just blame things on the liberal media and one of the best Presidents ever, President Obama.

Do you have any idea of what you are typing? What are you talking about? The other post? This one? Did you read the OP? Does it make sense to you? Is there a link to, or a reference point for that post? Sorry, but I am not a mind reader or a liberal fairy so I have to rely on some sort of subject for the first post in a thread.

Guest 01-14-2016 11:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171456)
This should have been linked on the first post. Then it wouldn't require mind reading to figure out the subject.

When I was reading the article, I thought it had come from the Huffington Post instead of the Washington Post. I guess they are about the same.

A lot of liberals seem to be getting real nervous. So nervous that they are concentrating on Cruz's every detail. That is a good thing, though. And I am saying that as a conservative. I want our future leaders to be completely vetted, so that we don't end up with an inept amateur like the one currently taking up valuable space and wasting oxygen in the White House. But, come on liberals, how about vetting Trump also? Or, are you so afraid of him that you are hiding your children before opening up on him? I think the liberals are scared of Trump.

What about the "don't consider the
source, consider the story" reply one gets questioning Breitbart links. Anyhow, here is a link you can relate to:

Cruz failed to disclose Goldman loan during Senate run | Fox News

Guest 01-14-2016 11:07 AM

Borrowing $1M and not reporting it is a totally separate issue than the "birther" issue and this post is about that problem for Cruz.

Trump started the "birther" issue on Cruz when Cruz caught and passed him in some polls.

Trump has been vetted and is falling in the polls. He is the amateur with no government experience and has gone bankrupt 4 times.

I guess you have been asleep while the POTUS created jobs, brought back the stock market, got millions of people health insurance, etc.

This post is about Cruz and borrowing money and not reporting it. Like the rest of the Tea *******, you change the subject when you can't respond to the OP.

Guest 01-14-2016 11:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171482)
Borrowing $1M and not reporting it is a totally separate issue than the "birther" issue and this post is about that problem for Cruz.

Trump started the "birther" issue on Cruz when Cruz caught and passed him in some polls.

Trump has been vetted and is falling in the polls. He is the amateur with no government experience and has gone bankrupt 4 times.

I guess you have been asleep while the POTUS created jobs, brought back the stock market, got millions of people health insurance, etc.

This post is about Cruz and borrowing money and not reporting it. Like the rest of the Tea *******, you change the subject when you can't respond to the OP.

How can you tell what the subject of the post is? Are you the OP? If so, then why didn't you make that clear on the first post?

Guest 01-14-2016 11:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171481)
What about the "don't consider the
source, consider the story" reply one gets questioning Breitbart links. Anyhow, here is a link you can relate to:

Cruz failed to disclose Goldman loan during Senate run | Fox News

If you read my comment, I did comment on the information contained in that article. Even though it is slanted, I agreed that vetting the candidate is a good thing. My comment about the slant of the article and the comparison of it to the Huffington Post, was just an observation/opinion. If the loan that Cruz obtained is an issue, then it should be examined. I also believe that Hillary's involvement with her email regarding private donations and it's relevance to it being on a work related server to be important too. I believe that Hillary's finances should also be examined.

I have no objection to the candidates being vetted, and never have. As long it is legitimate vetting and not a witch hunt, such as giving a haircut type hazing in high school, or lying by the head Senator about someone not paying their taxes.

Guest 01-14-2016 11:48 AM

I guess they didn't report it on FOX Spews.

"Liberal Fairy"? Tea ******* must resort to name calling and changing the subject if it doesn't fit their racist, Nazi views.

Guest 01-14-2016 12:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171499)
I guess they didn't report it on FOX Spews.

"Liberal Fairy"? Tea ******* must resort to name calling and changing the subject if it doesn't fit their racist, Nazi views.

Don't be so sensitive, and quit taking it out of context. The comment said he wasn't a "mind reader or liberal fairy" meaning he could not discern what the OP was shooting for by reading the OP's mind or waving his magic wand about. That doesn't appear to be calling anyone a name. Wow!

Guest 01-14-2016 02:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171407)
Don't do as I do, do as I say. It was just a small loan, I didn't mean to forget to tell anyone.

Racist! :grumpy:

Guest 01-14-2016 02:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171499)
I guess they didn't report it on FOX Spews.

"Liberal Fairy"? Tea ******* must resort to name calling and changing the subject if it doesn't fit their racist, Nazi views.

You forget that Nazi's were Democrats, the left, socialists. Or, didn't you know?

Guest 01-14-2016 04:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171569)
You forget that Nazi's were Democrats, the left, socialists. Or, didn't you know?

There you go again!

Guest 01-14-2016 05:25 PM

Nazis were not socialist. Were the Nazis socialist

Guest 01-14-2016 05:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171642)
There you go again!

Responding to being called a Nazi is "there you go again?" Get a life. If I don't agree with your stupid remarks, I'm a Nazi. If I correct you, because your are ignorant and don't know your history, then it's my fault that you didn't receive a quality education?

Guest 01-14-2016 05:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171654)
Nazis were not socialist. Were the Nazis socialist

What do you think NAZI means? You actually went to answers.com for your information? I'm sorry for being so rude and laughing, and laughing, and laughing. But, you can get any answer you wish on that website. The majority of the time, Joe blow is just answering off the cuff on subjects he doesn't have clue on. Just like you and that's why I am still laughing.

Nazi= a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Sorry, I bet you meant your reply as a joke.

Guest 01-14-2016 05:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171654)
Nazis were not socialist. Were the Nazis socialist

Answer by Darth Binky

will do "moose stuff" for a ride.


Really? That's really good. Do we really want to know what that guy means by doing "moose stuff" ????

Guest 01-14-2016 05:53 PM

And a liberal defends the Nazis? This has gotta be a first.

Guest 01-14-2016 07:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171569)
You forget that Nazi's were Democrats, the left, socialists. Or, didn't you know?

I am not trying to define the Nazis, but the Nazis weren't Democrats. You didn't like the description of Nazi's on the answers. Try this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

right wing workers party. What does that sound like? Trump supporters.

The Nazis were a failed sadistic movement, that died with Hitler. Comparing either of the two major parties as Nazis is the highest form of stupidity.

Guest 01-15-2016 07:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171699)
I am not trying to define the Nazis, but the Nazis weren't Democrats. You didn't like the description of Nazi's on the answers. Try this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

right wing workers party. What does that sound like? Trump supporters.

The Nazis were a failed sadistic movement, that died with Hitler. Comparing either of the two major parties as Nazis is the highest form of stupidity.

Sorry, but that doesn't work either. Wikipedia isn't always that accurate. You called me a Nazi and I corrected you. Nazis were socialists. Hitler was a socialist. Socialism is the left, not the right. They are extreme and that is exactly what you liberals/socialists want for America. So, don't use your socialism to label me. Being conservative has nothing to do with your radical need to change America into Europe. You really ought to travel outside of the U.S. I have lived overseas for about half my life, in different countries. I have seen the elimination of the middle class in socialist countries. They have re-labeled the lower class is all they have done. Socialist countries have a lower class and the elite class(wealthy). And this is what you wish on America. Our military has fought wars against the socialists and communism, and now you liberals, cowards want invite it into our country. You have no right to ruin this country. If you don't like this country, and prefer Europe then move to Europe But, don't sell your home because you will come crying back to us in short order.
If you don't call people names than you won't have to defend your ignorant statements. If you think my use of liberal is a slur, then maybe you should think about it. Your party is welcoming with open arms, SOCIALISM. Bernie Sanders is welcome in the Democrat party. Hillary and Debbie Whatshername can't even tell you the difference. Is this the party that your fathers fought wars to protect?

Guest 01-15-2016 07:59 AM

They were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist, and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics.

Guest 01-15-2016 08:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171793)
They were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist, and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics.

Does this describe the Republican party?

Guest 01-15-2016 08:16 AM

republican
 
Yes it does.

Guest 01-15-2016 08:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171444)
No, I did not know your mother, and I hate to disparage your mother, but I doubt she said exactly that.....:1rotfl:

Not sure whats so funny but I think she did! Or it might have been "If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all!

Guest 01-15-2016 09:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171806)
Yes it does.

Then you are not very well informed.
Abortion, pornography, war against Christianity, etc is a Democrat trait. No wonder Hillary and Sanders has you ignorant voters backing them. You don't even know what you are following. Maybe they should have a civics test before allowing idiots to vote.

Guest 01-15-2016 09:56 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171853)
Then you are not very well informed.
Abortion, pornography, war against Christianity, etc is a Democrat trait. No wonder Hillary and Sanders has you ignorant voters backing them. You don't even know what you are following. Maybe they should have a civics test before allowing idiots to vote.

...so what would you be doing on Election Day since you obviously would not be voting?

Guest 01-15-2016 10:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171866)
...so what would you be doing on Election Day since you obviously would not be voting?

Unlike the non-answers to the question that Dems give to the difference between a Democrat and a socialist, I know that answer....no difference. Funny thing is that you liberals are offended by the label of "liberal" but embrace the label of "socialist." When is the last time ANY American endorsed socialism? I doubt even FDR, another socialist would publicly welcome the label of 'socialist."

Guest 01-15-2016 11:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171887)
Unlike the non-answers to the question that Dems give to the difference between a Democrat and a socialist, I know that answer....no difference. Funny thing is that you liberals are offended by the label of "liberal" but embrace the label of "socialist." When is the last time ANY American endorsed socialism? I doubt even FDR, another socialist would publicly welcome the label of 'socialist."

What world are you in? The problem that you have is anyone that is not far right is a liberal. Every liberal is a socialist. Having social programs doesn't make you a socialist. You think that putting tags on people to demean them is perfectly acceptable.

We live in a free country. However if you don't agree with everything we put forward, you should shut up, and accept it. So, the far right wants a dictator as president, so he will get everything he wants without compromising anything. If you not a white American, you should leave. Blacks are nothing but trouble. Hispanics are probably illegals, and should be deported. Asians work for nothing, and bring down wages for everybody. Indians can stay, because we love gambling. They also stay on the reservations that we provided for them. Does that about cover it?

Guest 01-15-2016 11:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171899)
What world are you in? The problem that you have is anyone that is not far right is a liberal. Every liberal is a socialist. Having social programs doesn't make you a socialist. You think that putting tags on people to demean them is perfectly acceptable.

We live in a free country. However if you don't agree with everything we put forward, you should shut up, and accept it. So, the far right wants a dictator as president, so he will get everything he wants without compromising anything. If you not a white American, you should leave. Blacks are nothing but trouble. Hispanics are probably illegals, and should be deported. Asians work for nothing, and bring down wages for everybody. Indians can stay, because we love gambling. They also stay on the reservations that we provided for them. Does that about cover it?

That's funny. The party of socialism that says socialism is not really socialism. The party of slavery is telling Republicans that they don't care about minorities. How many ethnic groups do your candidates represent? Let's see.......white old people. How many ethnic groups are represented by GOP candidates? Let's see.........Female, Latino, black and we even have a few Christians on the roster. Meanwhile, the Democrat candidates fight over who is the most socialist. And yet, you still wonder why the label of "socialist"....or was it that you were insulted by the label of "liberal?" What was your complaint again? Oh yes, you were saying that just because liberals believe in socialist programs and want the gov to run everything, that's not socialism. That's being a progressive...ha,ha. Sorry about laughing, but socialism is not exactly being progressive. It's more like being regressive, since socialism has been around for a while. But, Republicans are regressive, right? :thumbup:

Guest 01-15-2016 11:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171853)
Then you are not very well informed.
Abortion, pornography, war against Christianity, etc is a Democrat trait. No wonder Hillary and Sanders has you ignorant voters backing them. You don't even know what you are following. Maybe they should have a civics test before allowing idiots to vote.

I'll give you one as a republican example, David Vitter. Being up on republican news you can name a lot more.

Guest 01-15-2016 12:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171918)
I'll give you one as a republican example, David Vitter. Being up on republican news you can name a lot more.

I'm going to guess at what you are attempting to say. You can correct me if I am wrong in trying to read your mind in what you are replying to or what you are attempting to suggest. Are you suggesting that David Vitter is a socialist? Are you attempting to find some dirt on Republicans? Or, do you have a thing for Vitter? Ok, I give up. What are you attempting to sell?

I KNOW! You are once again attempting to divert from the thread. I knew it! I figured it out, right?

Guest 01-15-2016 01:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171899)
What world are you in? The problem that you have is anyone that is not far right is a liberal. Every liberal is a socialist. Having social programs doesn't make you a socialist. You think that putting tags on people to demean them is perfectly acceptable.

We live in a free country. However if you don't agree with everything we put forward, you should shut up, and accept it. So, the far right wants a dictator as president, so he will get everything he wants without compromising anything. If you not a white American, you should leave. Blacks are nothing but trouble. Hispanics are probably illegals, and should be deported. Asians work for nothing, and bring down wages for everybody. Indians can stay, because we love gambling. They also stay on the reservations that we provided for them. Does that about cover it?

You covered most of it, but don't forget about the Republican war on women -
the extreme pro-life stances of some of the candidates that say that abortion is wrong even in cases of rape and incest; Republican efforts to redefine rape to reduce access to abortions; the refusal to support a minimum wage increase for low wage workers, the majority of whom are women; Cruz voted against the Violence Against Women act and has even targeted contraceptives.

Guest 01-15-2016 01:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1171949)
You covered most of it, but don't forget about the Republican war on women -
the extreme pro-life stances of some of the candidates that say that abortion is wrong even in cases of rape and incest; Republican efforts to redefine rape to reduce access to abortions; the refusal to support a minimum wage increase for low wage workers, the majority of whom are women; Cruz voted against the Violence Against Women act and has even targeted contraceptives.

Typical liberal rhetoric. You are so predictable that it's tiring.

Republican war on woman? Tell that to Hillary.
Extreme pro-life? Exactly how do you define extreme? Is there such a thing as extreme pro-life? Ooops, maybe wanting to ban executions of murderers? Woops, that's a liberal thing. That don't count. Let's see, if we don't agree to murdering innocent babies and parting them out for research, that's extreme? You do know that your argument about rape and incest is stupid, don't you? Less than 1% of abortions are due to rape or incest. So, there goes that argument. Oh well, next...........
Refusal to support FEDERAL minimum wage increase? You are correct. Only an idiot would not see the difference between State minimum wages and a blanket, across the board Federal min. wage. If you are not careful with regulating min. wages, you end up putting thousands of employees out of work. Do you wish to put thousands of FULL-TIME workers out of work?
Not that I want to defend Cruz because I have no intention of voting for him anyway, but why do you believe that the taxpayer should pay for contraception? Is it that expensive that you can't afford it? Am I suppose to pay for someone else to have sex without regards to responsibility? Would you like the taxpayer to provide you with your mate also? Are you that needy that you feel the gov has to "fix you up?" Tell me, have you no self-respect or pride? Do you really NEED the gov to be your nanny? Really?? I will pray for you.

Here's how it totals out:

Liberals:
Abortion = taxpayers must pay for it, even if they are against it.
Contraception - taxpayers must pay for it even if they are against it.
College Education = Taxpayers must pay for it.
Health Care insurance = must pay for it even if you don't need it, or go to jail
Unemployment = Two year paid vacation because you don't like the job offers
Mortages = Must be forgiven because the value of your home went down, along with the value of your car.
Free Phones = Taxpayer must pay for it, because everyone else has one.

Guns = liberals don't like them so no one should have one.
Religion = liberals don't believe so we should ban it, except for Muslims.
Wealthy = No one should be better than anyone else so liberals want to confiscate their money and give it to the government to pay for five million dollar vacations to Hawaii.
Drugs = legalize them because the addict is going to get them anyway.
Pubic vulgarity = You have to be open minded, freedom of speech unless it isn't PC to women, ethnic groups or sexual deviants.

Did I leave anything out that you liberals don't NEED?

Republicans:
Guns =if we don't like them, we don't buy them
Religion = If we don't believe, we don't go to church
Wealthy = we admire them and want to be wealthy by having the opportunity to achieve on our own without the gov saying we can't.
Abortion = we believe in life of the innocent and don't believe we should be force to subsidize the murder of babies.
Contraception = Pay for it yourself or don't have sex.
Unemployment = If you lose a job, then you take two or three until you find the one you want.
Free Phones = Phones are over rated. Buy your own if you want one
Mortgages = You signed for it, you pay for it. No execuses
College = Get a job and pay for it yourself. It's not my obligation to pay for yours. I have my own family to support.
Unemployment = six months is more than plenty to find another job. A year or more becomes a vacation. Get off your behind and take a job. You don't like the job, then do something about it.
Public vulgarity? Keep your dirty mouth to yourself. You embarrass yourself as well as your family. Grow up.
Drugs = They lead to addiction. Liberals really want to legalize them so that they can collect tax on them. Comparing them to alcohol is comparing a bad idea with another bad idea.

So, you want to know where the scale settles?

Liberals = equal more gov control = socialism = socialism + removal of religion = communism. Not the American way.

Cruz is not a socialist. His father is a moot point because we are not voting for his father. Just like we didn't vote for Obama's Muslim/socialist father or his communist mentor, Frank Davis or his friend domestic terrorist bomber, Bill Ayers or his white hating preacher Rev. Wright. Or his wife that finally loved America once her husband was elected.

Does that make you feel better? You weren't planning to vote for Cruz either, so it's all a moot point.


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