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virgind 01-18-2016 08:13 AM

Street legal carts
 
While we are complaining why do street legal carts with a valid plate run the golf cart path. They run a bit faster than most regular carts. Does that mean I can drive my small car on the GC path.I know some do. Maybe a cart path police cruiser.

Bogie Shooter 01-18-2016 10:26 AM

Who's complaining?

FMF Doc 01-18-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1173382)
While we are complaining why do street legal carts with a valid plate run the golf cart path. They run a bit faster than most regular carts. Does that mean I can drive my small car on the GC path.I know some do. Maybe a cart path police cruiser.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...modal-memo.pdf

CFrance 01-18-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FMF Doc (Post 1173847)

If you could paraphrase that a bit, it would be helpful. Before my eyes crossed, I deduced that they don't really know what's allowed on the paths because no definitions of multi-modal path, non-vehicular, non-automotive, nor golf cart (pretend I put all those in quotes) were given.

cquick 01-18-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1173878)
Now the question why are any street legal vehicles allowed on paths which can exceed the 20 MPH speed limit thus possible endangering multi modal path users?

Street legal LSV's are not allowed to go over 20mph on the multimodal paths. They can be ticketed for speeding.

tedquick 01-18-2016 07:52 PM

It has been my understanding that the police cannot ticket for speeding on MMPs. Am I wrong?

The Buckeyes 01-18-2016 08:54 PM

Had the unfortunate situation to get stuck behind a street legal cart on Pinellas Place this afternoon between Buena Vista and Morse. I have nothing against these carts except when they travel at 22moh in a 30mph zone. I can't tell you how many vehicles were backed up behind me but, I would imagine many of them raised their arm with a gesture when the cart turned off near Bonifay.

kcrazorbackfan 01-18-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cquick (Post 1173969)
Street legal LSV's are not allowed to go over 20mph on the multimodal paths. They can be ticketed for speeding.

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 1173983)
It has been my understanding that the police cannot ticket for speeding on MMPs. Am I wrong?

Ted, you are not wrong.

Barefoot 01-19-2016 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 1173983)
It has been my understanding that the police cannot ticket for speeding on MMPs. Am I wrong?

I've always been told that Police cannot ticket for speeding on MMPs, but they can ticket for dangerous driving or DUI or open bottles.


golfing eagles 01-19-2016 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1174083)
I've always been told that Police cannot ticket for speeding on MMPs, but they can ticket for dangerous driving or DUI or open bottles.


This actually raises more questions than answers. Perhaps some of the lawyers here can weigh in.

Are MMPs private property? Does it make sense that LEOs would enforce some laws that apply to roads and not others? Walmart's parking lot is "private property"---can I speed there or drive drunk?

Can I drive my cart in circles on my own property at excessive speed or in a dangerous manner, or have an open bottle on it? I do know the law also differentiates between inside and outside a home. For example, I could hold a group sex therapy counseling class in my house, but if I did the same thing in my front yard, the police might have something to say.

You can get drunk at home, but if you assault someone, being on "private property" does not shield you. So are MMPs private like a home?, or private but open to the public like Walmart?, are they private with an easement for MMPs? Are they private but in public view like a front yard? And what is the role of law enforcement?

Chatbrat 01-19-2016 06:45 AM

Most important thing about LSV vs golf carts-IMHO, you've got to have a death wish to want to drive a 25 mph vehicle on a 35 mph road where a car driver can drive 40 mph & only receive a warning.

In a tie with a 4000 lb car-its a no brainer--the car will always win

Is 5 mph worth the risk to play with the big boys

Mr.Big 01-19-2016 07:02 AM

I saw a golf cart traveling on the sidewalk a few days ago!

Bogie Shooter 01-19-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Buckeyes (Post 1174004)
Had the unfortunate situation to get stuck behind a street legal cart on Pinellas Place this afternoon between Buena Vista and Morse. I have nothing against these carts except when they travel at 22moh in a 30mph zone. I can't tell you how many vehicles were backed up behind me but, I would imagine many of them raised their arm with a gesture when the cart turned off near Bonifay.

Do you mean that I could not drive my car on this street at 22mph?

CFrance 01-19-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Buckeyes (Post 1174004)
Had the unfortunate situation to get stuck behind a street legal cart on Pinellas Place this afternoon between Buena Vista and Morse. I have nothing against these carts except when they travel at 22moh in a 30mph zone. I can't tell you how many vehicles were backed up behind me but, I would imagine many of them raised their arm with a gesture when the cart turned off near Bonifay.

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1174156)
Do you mean that I could not drive my car on this street at 22mph?

I wouldn't try it on Pinellas Place...

Bogie Shooter 01-19-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1174101)
This actually raises more questions than answers. Perhaps some of the lawyers here can weigh in.

Are MMPs private property? Does it make sense that LEOs would enforce some laws that apply to roads and not others? Walmart's parking lot is "private property"---can I speed there or drive drunk?

Can I drive my cart in circles on my own property at excessive speed or in a dangerous manner, or have an open bottle on it? I do know the law also differentiates between inside and outside a home. For example, I could hold a group sex therapy counseling class in my house, but if I did the same thing in my front yard, the police might have something to say.

You can get drunk at home, but if you assault someone, being on "private property" does not shield you. So are MMPs private like a home?, or private but open to the public like Walmart?, are they private with an easement for MMPs? Are they private but in public view like a front yard? And what is the role of law enforcement?

You will not be bothered if you only talk about "it" and don't do "it".:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 01-19-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1174164)
You will not be bothered if you only talk about "it" and don't do "it".:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Not likely to happen. But if I read "Leisureville" correctly, everyone would have to bring their own pineapples, gold shoes and loofahs :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

WhoDat 01-19-2016 03:08 PM

It is my understanding (saw something about it on another post) that the legal advisor to the sheriff has written a memo indicating that the sheriff's office has no enforcement authority on the multi-modal paths. They are only authorized by state statute to enforce laws on the street.

looneycat 01-19-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Buckeyes (Post 1174004)
Had the unfortunate situation to get stuck behind a street legal cart on Pinellas Place this afternoon between Buena Vista and Morse. I have nothing against these carts except when they travel at 22moh in a 30mph zone. I can't tell you how many vehicles were backed up behind me but, I would imagine many of them raised their arm with a gesture when the cart turned off near Bonifay.

they are only allowed to go 25mph.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-19-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cquick (Post 1173969)
Street legal LSV's are not allowed to go over 20mph on the multimodal paths. They can be ticketed for speeding.

I am not aware of speed limits on the multi modal paths, nor have I ever seen any speed limit signs posted on them.

Where did you get this information?

outlaw 01-20-2016 10:40 AM

The law for NEVs/LSVs is that they can not be capable of exceeding 25 mph, I think. Most LSVs go less than 25 mph. Change the law.

cquick 01-20-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1174601)
I am not aware of speed limits on the multi modal paths, nor have I ever seen any speed limit signs posted on them.

Where did you get this information?

I guess I just thought it was true. I don't know where I got the info. :gc:

rubicon 01-20-2016 04:26 PM

I have been a member for 6 years and this must be the 35th time this issue has been raised, scrutinized and solved. Why? Because our golf carts are our everything, our pals and our identity :gc: God Bless America, Land........

Personal Best Regards:


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