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tkret 10-25-2008 08:58 PM

Penn State Nittany Lions Talk
 
Just wondering if this will be Joe's final season or has he committed to next year.

Cassie325 10-25-2008 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkret (Post 169386)
Just wondering if this will be Joe's final season or has he committed to next year.

Cousin...why did I not know you were a FAN....assumingly an alumni...

I used to work there and live there.....

Our friends you are celebrating TGing with....he is an alumni of PSU!!!

SEE....a VERY VERY VERY SMALL world....of love....

OK...enough hi-jacking....Joe has been thinking of retiring for YEARS....he just loves it and keeps coming back....kind of like me and TOTV!!! Not comparing myself to Joe....just our love for something good!!

tkret 10-25-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassie325 (Post 169394)
Cousin...why did I not know you were a FAN....assumingly an alumni...


OK...enough hi-jacking....Joe has been thinking of retiring for YEARS....he just loves it and keeps coming back....kind of like me and TOTV!!! Not comparing myself to Joe....just our love for something good!!


No, not alumnus ... just enjoy all college football. As a kid, used to sneak into the Columbia football games at Baker Field. Half the fun was trying to avoid the Pinkies (Pinkerton Private Security) that the university hired.

Alumnus! That's funny... heck, I still haven't finished learning my 3rd Grade Reader....but I DID stay in a Holiday Inn Express.

Cassie325 10-25-2008 09:50 PM

;)OH DEAR.....good thing I luv ya!!!


:beer3:


:coolsmiley:


:faint:

DickY 10-26-2008 09:14 AM

JoePa has a year to year contract. If you go by tendencies he'll be there next year.

Cassie325 10-26-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DickY (Post 169466)
JoePa has a year to year contract. If you go by tendencies he'll be there next year.


I agree....he will be there till God says he is done...that is just my guess....he loves what he does...he is good at what he does....and everyone loves him....

MSNPA 10-26-2008 01:58 PM

I'm a Penn State alumni. I must admit I am not a fan of any team, however I am so proud of Penn State and their wins this season. My husband always tells me they just play cupcakes, but last night proved him wrong. Plus it is amazing how Joe keeps going and going.

Floridagal 10-27-2008 10:56 AM

Just got back yesterday from spending 4 days at Penn State with my daughter (she is an alumni and now lives and works for Penn State) and her family and the place went wild when Penn State won.

Blondie 10-27-2008 11:13 AM

Bitter Sweet
 
My nephew just graduated from PSU; however, my Son-in-Law is from Ohio and his family has many Ohio State grads.:shrug:.......I'm conflicted

rshoffer 10-27-2008 11:50 AM

Regardless...
 
WE ARE.... PENN STATE!:eclipsee_gold_cup:

tpop1 11-07-2011 06:33 PM

Penn State - When will Joe go!
 
I feel bad for all Penn State alumni who will suffer with the publicity over Sandusky's escapades.

The question of the day is how long Joe Pa will last.

Will he resign:
  • Before tomorrow's news conference,
  • At the news conference,
  • Before the next game on Sat.,
  • Before the end of the year, or
  • Will he last out the year?

Kim Jones of the YES Network, who is a Penn St. alum, worked sports there a few years after graduation was on with Mike Francesa and she was livid about what went out ....her voice was quivering.

A poignant quote from her was, "Well we certainly ceded the high ground with this one!"

2BNTV 11-09-2011 09:58 AM

I don't think Joe Pa will resign. I think the board of directors should fire him.
I don't say this to be mean but Penn State needs to put this behind them as quickly as possible. What a scandal!!!!!!

IMHO - Joe Pa should have followed-up on this report and do the right thing. He didn't and lost his moral compass. The welfare of a human being is much more important than wins and losses or protecting an associate.

These kids that were affected will never be the same and shame on everyone who allowed this linger for ten plus years and should have put an end to this immediately.

Joe Pa who was looked at "what was right with college football" is really on the wrong side of the line on this one.

Joe Pa lost his legacy and may not be convicted of any wrong doing but he is morally wrong.!!!!!

It's all about the kids being hurt and being affected by a predator.

I have to go now as I am getting angry thinking about this.

Bill-n-Brillo 11-09-2011 10:04 AM

And we thought Ohio State was having problems! Pales in comparison to what Penn State is having to deal with.

Bill :)

ilovetv 11-09-2011 10:08 AM

College football has become a religion. Making one's own god(s) never succeeds.

Mikeod 11-09-2011 10:08 AM

AP is reporting that he will retire at the end of the season.

Sad.

My experiences in many organizations make it difficult for me to blame him as harshly as many others have for not following up on the allegations he brought to the administration. If he had trust in those above him, even if misplaced as it appears, he may have been confident that the proper things would be done.

And, no, I'm not a Penn State alumnus.

PennBF 11-09-2011 10:35 AM

What if?
 
The question is "what if it was his son or grandson that was being molested".?
Darn right he would have called the police when he was first told!! He should
be fired and anyone else on the know that it happened or was going on. It
may be that the Exec's at Penn State asked him to keep it quiet but that is
no excuse. He is as much to blame as anyone who was told or knew including the many on his staff. There would have hell to pay if any of those had their
children or grandchildren involved. Fire him now!!:rant-rave:

2BNTV 11-09-2011 10:43 AM

Several more thoughts on this subject.
1. At one time, Joe Pa was the most powerful man on the campus but I think the board of directors will fire him over this scandal to move forward.
2. It is sad that after 45 years of exemplary behavior, (minus the years this indcident should have been reported immediately), that Joe Pa has this tremendous scandal to deal with. Not in my wildest dreams I would have thought this would happen.
3. It's all about the money for some people. 50 million a year the college football program brings into the university.
4. As a father and grandfather, I find this scandal to be revollting in the way the university officials tried to sweep it under the rug and protect the university and or colleague. They should reflect on what did they in their time spent in jail.

People in Happy Valley are not too happy anymore.

Penn State has lost it's moral high ground.

tpop1 11-09-2011 11:04 AM

Great article
 
Poingnant piece on Grantland.com by Penn State guy Michael Weintreb..

In regards to Joe Pa being the benovalent dictator-

Best quote ever by writer, "One of the central truths of human nature- when you brush up against a truly powerful force, it is never quite as benovalent as you imagined it. In order to acquire power, you have to be a little ruthless!"

_amen

How many boys did Sandusky rape, fondle, assult after the 2002 incident - how many on campus?

Reading the Grand Jury report gets the blood boiling.

2BNTV 11-09-2011 11:33 AM

In My Humble Opinion
 
joe must go.

collie1228 11-09-2011 12:37 PM

I think everyone who knows anything about this story is shocked/angered/disappointed on so many levels. I'm really not a big fan of Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, but her column today puts it all in a nutshell. Cudos to Maureen on this one.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/op...t-penn.html?hp

graciegirl 11-09-2011 12:42 PM

I am sick about this. I am not a Penn State Alumnus but I really looked up to Joe Pa.

I hate when my idols crash.

But I hate more to find out about human behavior that is deviant and more prevalent than I ever dreamed.

And I hate to think of the victims.

BogeyBoy 11-09-2011 12:49 PM

Per CNN he will retire at the end of the season. (Statement made today.)

chuckinca 11-09-2011 02:25 PM

He said he would retire at the end of the season. Did the Board of Trustees agree?


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Bill-n-Brillo 11-09-2011 02:36 PM

As an aside, the PSU president is reported to be gone by the end of the day:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal..._by_end_of_day

Bill :)

2BNTV 11-09-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 416003)
He said he would retire at the end of the season. Did the Board of Trustees agree?


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I used to think very highly of Joe Pa but I read an article that he was lamentening about "hindsight", Sorry, Joe, tell the kids about it.

Joe had the most power on the PSU campus. It's one thing when the dictator wants to stay or is there going to be junta?

I tend to agree with you and the board may have a different agenda.

Stay tuned

blaZen 11-09-2011 03:54 PM

Joe Pa
 
Didn't take them long to toss Joe Pa under the bus.

De Lis 11-09-2011 04:11 PM

Not the end of this
 
"Retire at the end of the season" and not TODAY...geez, the Board is a joke. Apparently they just want that last win.

Well, we will be hearing about this for a long time when they all go through civil court.

collie1228 11-09-2011 04:30 PM

Funny (funny strange, not funny ha ha) how Jo Pa was supposed to be the most powerful person in Happy Valley, but when he tried to have his weekly press conference yesterday, the university president had it cancelled. Guess Joe wasn't so powerful after all. They can't let him coach the team this weekend. He's toast.

GTTPF 11-09-2011 04:52 PM

It's a sad day for Penn state and especially for the victims of this tragedy. Joe Pa built a lifetime building a legacy and destroyed his reputation by making a stupid decision not to contact the police. After he saw that it was not being done by the university, he should have done it himself. That is the morally right thing to do. I have always liked and respected both Penn state and Joe Pa but now, shame on them. It makes me sick to think that they feel that their athletic program is more important than human decency and the law. I hope that the victims are able to recover from this tragedy.

2BNTV 11-09-2011 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTTPF (Post 416053)
It's a sad day for Penn state and especially for the victims of this tragedy. Joe Pa built a lifetime building a legacy and destroyed his reputation by making a stupid decision not to contact the police. After he saw that it was not being done by the university, he should have done it himself. That is the morally right thing to do. I have always liked and respected both Penn state and Joe Pa but now, shame on them. It makes me sick to think that they feel that their athletic program is more important than human decency and the law. I hope that the victims are able to recover from this tragedy.

Great post. Short and to the point. :BigApplause:

bimmertl 11-09-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaZen (Post 416030)
Didn't take them long to toss Joe Pa under the bus.

Joe knew of serious allegations in 2002. So if 9 years is not a long time than it didn't take long.

Of course during that time period of Holy Joe's inaction, additional children were molested.

Nice legacy!

TednRobin 11-09-2011 07:31 PM

I am a PSU Alumni, I feel Joe, Spanier and McQuery should be gone before nights end. Centre Daily Times reports that Sandusky was seen in the PSU sports facility as late as last week, no excuse for any of them IMHO.

ilovetv 11-09-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 416086)
Joe knew of serious allegations in 2002. So if 9 years is not a long time than it didn't take long.

Of course during that time period of Holy Joe's inaction, additional children were molested.

Nice legacy!

He could always go into the Catholic priesthood. Heck, maybe he could get a nice little parish in Rome, his homeland, like Cardinal Law did after leaving his "legacy" in Boston.

Loveithere 11-09-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 416086)
Joe knew of serious allegations in 2002. So if 9 years is not a long time than it didn't take long.

Of course during that time period of Holy Joe's inaction, additional children were molested.

Nice legacy!

Wow, this thread is getting mean spirited.

tpop1 11-09-2011 10:14 PM

Come on!
 
It's a mean subject!!!

golf2140 11-09-2011 10:21 PM

He was fired tonight:rant-rave:

graciegirl 11-10-2011 12:16 AM

A coach is a teacher. A teacher must report child abuse to local law enforcement.


No matter what else he did. He failed to do that.


After all is said and done this is how Joe Paterno will be remembered.

chuckinca 11-10-2011 12:22 AM

All I can say is - -- WOW

Go from the most respected College Football Coach with years and years of history to trashed and fired in a week!


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hedoman 11-10-2011 04:54 AM

Ye who have no sin cast the first stone.

Joe Pa IS Penn State so any conflict that needs headlines will involve him.

Anybody know the heirarchy of University Security? There is protocol and only higher ups may involve outside agencies at their discretion. So some body comes to you and says they saw something happen as it relates to a previous employee. Protocol dictates that I report this to higher authorities in the chain of command, which he did. They investigate it and take control. Follow up? With all the othr responsibilities you think I have time to follow up?

Everybody is treating this as if Joe SAW the event and did nothing.... You make it sound like he did it NOT a former coach years removed. It IS horrific what happened but to tarnish a man for doing what he is instructed to do and follow the chain of command on hearsay, well you all have got it wrong!

Many other horrors were witnessed and not reported in Corporate and in the military ... That'sno excuse but it happens......

graciegirl 11-10-2011 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 416263)
Ye who have no sin cast the first stone.

Joe Pa IS Penn State so any conflict that needs headlines will involve him.

Anybody know the heirarchy of University Security? There is protocol and only higher ups may involve outside agencies at their discretion. So some body comes to you and says they saw something happen as it relates to a previous employee. Protocol dictates that I report this to higher authorities in the chain of command, which he did. They investigate it and take control. Follow up? With all the othr responsibilities you think I have time to follow up?

Everybody is treating this as if Joe SAW the event and did nothing.... You make it sound like he did it NOT a former coach years removed. It IS horrific what happened but to tarnish a man for doing what he is instructed to do and follow the chain of command on hearsay, well you all have got it wrong!

Many other horrors were witnessed and not reported in Corporate and in the military ... That'sno excuse but it happens......


Hedoman,

You may be right on this one too. You are always fair and accurate...but..

I was under the impression that in the last ten years or so that all suspected child abuse seen by teachers must be reported to law enforcement and not to supervisors. Maybe that is not in all states.

My belief is that Joe Paterno is a fine man. I certainly have no right to cast stones because I am NOT sinless.

But we can't forget the fact that this man, this fine man, this great man, who was a huge hero to hundreds of thousands and deservedly so, had the same responsiblity as a lowly kindergarten teacher like me.

Hedoman. It hurts all of us to see these things happen. I am sorry that I appear self righteous.

And it is possible that he did just exactly what he was supposed to do and worried about it at night and couldn't sleep.

What a terrible, awful mess. What pain for all.


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