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raynan 02-05-2016 09:38 AM

12 Shades of Black
 
This movie is disgusting and an insult. Why The Villages would bring in this movie and Dirty Grandpa makes you wonder. A group of us ladies thought 50 shades was suppose to be funny. It was advertised by Jane Seymour on talk shows as a spoof. It's a shame that this is the kind of entertainment (?) the younger generation is watching. We were thoroughly embarrassed at the content of this movie and it is NOT funny. Don't waste your money. We are far from a bunch of prudes and friends of mine went to Dirty Grandpa and said that was totally gross.

bagboy 02-05-2016 09:49 AM

I'm not surprised. Most of the content from Hollywood is disgusting. And, if you saw and heard the content on many of the video games children are playing, that would shock you even more. And yet, parents allow it...

tomwed 02-05-2016 09:58 AM

Rotten Tomatoes is a website that looks at a number of reviews and give a critic review between 0-100. They gave Dirty Grandpa an 8. It's rare to see a number that low.

They haven't evaluated 50 Shades of Black yet.

I think they are a fairly reliable site to check before seeing a movie. I also think it's fair to walk out of a movie you don't like because it is obscene, not just bad acting or poorly written and ask to see a movie that you do like.

Sandtrap328 02-05-2016 10:16 AM

Both of those movies have an R rating. It stands to reason that an R rating will have very strong sexual content, coarse adult words flowing freely, graphic violence, or bathroom humor as determied by the genre of the film.

It might be better to stick with the PG ratings if one does not like what is in the R rated movies.

As for walking out during the movie and telling the management you did not like it is fine - but not to ask for a refund.

golfing eagles 02-05-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1182018)
Both of those movies have an R rating. It stands to reason that an R rating will have very strong sexual content, coarse adult words flowing freely, graphic violence, or bathroom humor as determied by the genre of the film.

It might be better to stick with the PG ratings if one does not like what is in the R rated movies.

As for walking out during the movie and telling the management you did not like it is fine - but not to ask for a refund.

My favorite is when looking for a movie on TV, the warning comes up:

AC-----adult content
L------strong language
V------graphic violence
N------nudity
SC-----strong sexual content

A complete movie----something for everyone:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 02-05-2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by raynan (Post 1181986)
This movie is disgusting and an insult. Why The Villages would bring in this movie and Dirty Grandpa makes you wonder. A group of us ladies thought 12 shades was suppose to be funny. It was advertised by Jane Seymour on talk shows as a spoof. It's a shame that this is the kind of entertainment (?) the younger generation is watching. We were thoroughly embarrassed at the content of this movie and it is NOT funny. Don't waste your money. We are far from a bunch of prudes and friends of mine went to Dirty Grandpa and said that was totally gross.

From what I have heard from the Villages' theater managers like Rachel Ballou, they have to accept all the movies of various movie distributors if they have a contract with them. Someone asked this during one of the movie festivals at the Old Mill Playhouse. It was why they did not get Lionsgate movies but now they are. They did not seem to want some of the movies that Lionsgate had so I had to go to Leesburg to see movies like 3:10 to Yuam and some of the Hunger Game movies. https://www.lionsgate.com/movies/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ionsgate_films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3:10_to_Yuma_(2007_film)

Chi-Town 02-05-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1182003)
Rotten Tomatoes is a website that looks at a number of reviews and give a critic review between 0-100. They gave Dirty Grandpa an 8. It's rare to see a number that low.

They haven't evaluated 50 Shades of Black yet.

I think they are a fairly reliable site to check before seeing a movie. I also think it's fair to walk out of a movie you don't like because it is obscene, not just bad acting or poorly written and ask to see a movie that you do like.

Another good site is IMDb. The trailer and poster provided tells you a lot.

Fifty Shades of Black (2016) - IMDb

Taltarzac725 02-05-2016 10:28 AM

I like The Numbers - Where Data and the Movie Business Meet in addition to others mentioned. 2016 Preview: February - The Numbers

Sandtrap328 02-05-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1182020)
My favorite is when looking for a movie on TV, the warning comes up:

AC-----adult content
L------strong language
V------graphic violence
N------nudity
SC-----strong sexual content

A complete movie----something for everyone:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Ah yes, if only the stars of that "complete" movie could be Ruth Gordon, Bea Arthur, and Gabby Hayes.

claricecolin 02-05-2016 10:54 AM

I really just don't understand how one will go to a movie without having an idea of what it is about. A look at the poster, IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes will tell you what is in the movie. 50 Shades of Black is a spoof movie by one of the Wayan brothers and follows their other spoofs (Scary Movie and the like). Dirty Grandpa is called Dirty Grandpa and rated R. These movies have an audience, don't cost a ton of money to make and make money.

Taltarzac725 02-05-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by claricecolin (Post 1182042)
I really just don't understand how one will go to a movie without having an idea of what it is about. A look at the poster, IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes will tell you what is in the movie. 50 Shades of Black is a spoof movie by one of the Wayan brothers and follows their other spoofs (Scary Movie and the like). Dirty Grandpa is called Dirty Grandpa and rated R. These movies have an audience, don't cost a ton of money to make and make money.

I usually research a movie before going to see it.

The standards certainly have changed a great deal over the past decade. I would have a hard time talking about a lot of these movies with my various nieces and nephews. They probably love all of it or the older ones do.

My two nieces saw Rock of Ages maybe 4 times while there were here and then later. Two or three times at the Old Mill Playhouse. Julianne Hough - Rotten Tomatoes Rock of Ages*(2012) - Rotten Tomatoes

tomwed 02-05-2016 11:40 AM

I went to youtube and they have 2 trailers for 50 Shades. The official one is rated for all viewers. That's the one I guess you see in the movies.
The other trailer was rated R so you get to see what it will really be like. That could even be watered down.

I never thought of looking for different rated trailers or using youtube before.

I still think if you go to an R rated movie that starts to look like an x-rated movie it's fair to ask if you could switch movies. The most they could say is no. Tell them you'll buy the big bucket of popcorn and a big coke for $27.50 or whatever they now charge.

claricecolin 02-05-2016 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=tomwed;1182075]I went to youtube and they have 2 trailers for 50 Shades. The official one is rated for all viewers. That's the one I guess you see in the movies.
The other trailer was rated R so you get to see what it will really be like. That could even be watered down.

I never thought of looking for different rated trailers or using youtube before.

Yes, some R rated movies get what is known as a red band trailer. If that is the case there is one trailer cut that is no more than a PG13 that can basically be shown as a trailer in any movie not rated less than that. If it has already been rated by the MPAA the true rating will be given at the end of the trailer. A red band trailer can be shown before an R rated feature. It is called red bank as instead of the normal green screen before a trailer this one is red or has a red band around it.

raynan 02-05-2016 12:02 PM

Like I said in original post, we are not a bunch of prudes and we have seen several R rated movies but this was beyond the pale. It should be rated X, IMO.

perrjojo 02-05-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by raynan (Post 1182083)
Like I said in original post, we are not a bunch of prudes and we have seen several R rated movies but this was beyond the pale. It should be rated X, IMO.

I agree...did not see this movie but I just don't get some of the things people find funny today. Rude and crude behavior is not funny funny....at least not to me.

Chi-Town 02-05-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1182045)
I usually research a movie before going to see it.

The standards certainly have changed a great deal over the past decade. I would have a hard time talking about a lot of these movies with my various nieces and nephews. They probably love all of it or the older ones do.

My two nieces saw Rock of Ages maybe 4 times while there were here and then later. Two of three times at the Old Mill Playhouse. Julianne Hough - Rotten Tomatoes Rock of Ages*(2012) - Rotten Tomatoes


C'mon, you were in your 20's when these movies were hits....
Hardbodies
Spring Break
Porky's
Revenge of the Nerds
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
I'm Gonna Get You Sucka
Stripes

And so many more. We've all seen them at one time or the other.

Maybe.

goodtimesintv 02-05-2016 01:41 PM

I think it's wrong to blame the o.p. for not knowing enough about the "disgusting" movie.

I think they have a right to ask whether The Villages theaters really wants/needs such trash on its screens.

Remember: For every screen showing the trash, that's a screen that COULD be showing a movie that is decent!

I don't know why people don't see what a squalid bunch Hollywood is as a whole. But then, people buy tabloids full of lies and abnormality.

Arctic Fox 02-05-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1182023)
Another good site is IMDb.
Fifty Shades of Black (2016) - IMDb

According to IMDB, people who liked "Fifty Shades of Black" also liked "Pride and Prejudice". Go figure!

EastCoastDawg 02-05-2016 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1182003)
I also think it's fair to walk out of a movie you don't like.

I think they did walk out - they saw only 12 of the 50 shades of black

tomwed 02-05-2016 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1182137)
According to IMDB, people who liked "Fifty Shades of Black" also liked "Pride and Prejudice". Go figure!

They liked "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies"
Fifty Shades of Black (2016) - IMDb
You gotta admit, that's a great title.
I got one "Mutiny on the Bounty, the Greater Picker-Upper"

rubicon 02-05-2016 03:19 PM

In my personal opinion Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and has been for a very long time. its why they rely on technology so much. so what you are seeing now is the diminishing effect of this loss generation after generation of movie makers. What viewers are doing now is picking the best from a bad lot meaning that an OK movie appears better than it really is.

the other aspect is Hollywood failure in creating really interesting character actors. there a a few as here are a few good movies but....

Arctic Fox 02-05-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1182144)
They liked "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies"

Sorry - misread the listing as being two films

did seem a bit odd!


I use IMDB as my main viewing reference tool and find it very useful, and extensive

tomwed 02-05-2016 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=Arctic Fox;1182159]Sorry - misread the listing as being two films

did seem a bit odd!


it did seem odd

Chi-Town 02-05-2016 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 1182140)
I think they did walk out - they saw only 12 of the 50 shades of black

Funny.

Taltarzac725 02-05-2016 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1182098)
C'mon, you were in your 20's when these movies were hits....
Hardbodies
Spring Break
Porky's
Revenge of the Nerds
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
I'm Gonna Get You Sucka
Stripes

And so many more. We've all seen them at one time or the other.

Maybe.

Those movies pale in comparison to movies like Jackass and its sequels. Even the glee club romps Pitch Perfect and Pitch Perfect 2 really push the level of decency. I really enjoyed the Pitch Perfect movies though.

I really see no way of stopping this as it is market driven. There's a demand for movies like this and those with a lot of unnecessary violence.

John_W 02-05-2016 04:00 PM

A poster back on the first page recommended reading about films on IMDB (Internet Movie Data Base). That has actually been my home page since about 2003. I enjoy rating films and I have over 2500 rated so far.

Generally I won't pay to go to the theater to see a film rated lower than a 7.0, "Fifty Shades of Black" has a 3.3 rating and in it's opening week took in less than $6 million dollars. Those two numbers alone should tell you to stay away. Here is a link IMDB Home Page A 3.3 is about as low as any new release can get and only $6 million, that screams BUST.

If your group had it's mind set on a comedy, then today using the rating of 7.0 or better, you should of gone to "Hail, Caesar!" It has a 7.5 rating and is made by the Coen Bros. If you're not familiar, they made O'Brother Where Art Thou, Fargo, True Grit, The Big Labowsky, Burn after Reading, No Country for Old Men and Raising Arizona to name a few.

Arctic Fox 02-05-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1182163)
I agree with everything you said except "sorry". I should have asked you if you thought the title was complete. I didn't mean to come across that way. I'm sorry.

no offence taken, tomwed - I read your post as you intended, thanks

Arctic Fox 02-05-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1182170)
If your group had it's mind set on a comedy...

I find comedy the hardest to judge. I have been to movies where most of the audience is rolling in the aisles, whereas I just see it as rubbish. Conversely, things that I find funny may leave other people cold. Monty Python, anyone?

However, since comedy actors often stick with the same general type of comedy, if I dislike someone in one movie I tend to avoid other movies starring that actor.

raynan 02-05-2016 08:47 PM

John W,
We would have if it had been shown on Thursday. We have a group that goes to Chick Flicks and lunch the 1st Thursday of the month. Better movies came in on Friday (today).

John_W 02-06-2016 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1182098)
C'mon, you were in your 20's when these movies were hits....
Hardbodies
Spring Break
Porky's
Revenge of the Nerds
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
I'm Gonna Get You Sucka
Stripes

And so many more. We've all seen them at one time or the other.

Maybe.

"Stripes" I was 31 when it came out and I've seen that film about five times, I believe the others came out even later and I haven't seen any of those. I went to Stripes because the year before I saw Caddyshack, which also featured Bill Murray, and I loved it.

Other good comedies about that time was Airplane and Animal House. Something you won't see now and happened in both those films was there is almost no use of the F-word.

kittygilchrist 02-07-2016 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claricecolin (Post 1182042)
I really just don't understand how one will go to a movie without having an idea of what it is about. A look at the poster, IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes will tell you what is in the movie. 50 Shades of Black is a spoof movie by one of the Wayan brothers and follows their other spoofs (Scary Movie and the like). Dirty Grandpa is called Dirty Grandpa and rated R. These movies have an audience, don't cost a ton of money to make and make money.

I really don't understand the viewer's POSTING a protest that the film was too sexual.
If I went to a filthy film with friends, I would expect to see and feel something sexual while girl-bonding as naughty women. Sounds gay.

Anyway, why publicly complain---although you like smut enough to pay to watch other people smutting---that the movie industry failed by showing more smut than you had in mind?

Beats me, people.


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