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Guest 02-09-2016 02:47 PM

Sanders is a savior.
 
If you read this article by Fox News, Sanders, in his attacks against Wall Street, and the donor class, will save the Republican Party from itself.
America, you're watching the beginning of the end of the Republican Party | Fox News

The RNC might be able to shut Trump up, but can't do anything about Sanders. If the article is correct, the RNC hopes that Hillary is the Democratic nominee, if Trump isn't theirs.

Guest 02-09-2016 02:54 PM

Some of us use more than fox to reach an informed conclusion.

I suggest trying it.

Guest 02-09-2016 03:00 PM

Sanders is a commie. Some of us fought commies in the past. He is an American but his ideology is the enemy. He is way too old and has been a commie for too long for rehabilitation.

So:
Scratch Sanders
Scratch Hillary

Equals: Dem's zero

Guest 02-09-2016 03:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183688)
Sanders is a commie. Some of us fought commies in the past. He is an American but his ideology is the enemy. He is way too old and has been a commie for too long for rehabilitation.

So:
Scratch Sanders
Scratch Hillary

Equals: Dem's zero

Sounds like something a Rhodes Scholar would say. I think

Guest 02-09-2016 04:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183688)
Sanders is a commie. Some of us fought commies in the past. He is an American but his ideology is the enemy. He is way too old and has been a commie for too long for rehabilitation.

So:
Scratch Sanders
Scratch Hillary

Equals: Dem's zero

So, if Sanders is elected will you be leaving the country? Maybe you will take to the streets with your BB gun and lead a coup.

Guest 02-09-2016 04:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183722)
So, if Sanders is elected will you be leaving the country? Maybe you will take to the streets with your BB gun and lead a coup.

Why would I leave the country that I have fought for? You, on the other hand will end up in Siberia eventually if Sanders wins. Sanders and Putin are probably long lost cousins.

Guest 02-09-2016 05:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183729)
Why would I leave the country that I have fought for? You, on the other hand will end up in Siberia eventually if Sanders wins. Sanders and Putin are probably long lost cousins.

Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

Guest 02-09-2016 05:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183688)
Sanders is a commie. Some of us fought commies in the past. He is an American but his ideology is the enemy. He is way too old and has been a commie for too long for rehabilitation.

So:
Scratch Sanders
Scratch Hillary

Equals: Dem's zero

Obviously you were absent or asleep when the differences between socialism and communism were discussed.

Your level of education is showing!

Guest 02-09-2016 05:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183685)
Some of us use more than fox to reach an informed conclusion.

I suggest trying it.

Too funny. I came across this article, while looking up something else. I don't watch Fox News at all. You are in the minority that doesn't take Fox News as gospel on everything. If you are looking for an informed conclusion, Fox News is the last place you want to look.


Thanks for the advice. I won't take Fox News as the be all to end all on its opinions.

Guest 02-09-2016 05:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183740)
Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

By the way "We got him" we mean the Republicans failed to get the man that attacked the US leaving the job to the next President. So the Navy Seals under the orders of President Obama took him out!

Guest 02-09-2016 05:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183729)
Why would I leave the country that I have fought for? You, on the other hand will end up in Siberia eventually if Sanders wins. Sanders and Putin are probably long lost cousins.

Another one whose level of education is showing!!!

Siberia was under Communist rule!

Guest 02-09-2016 07:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183740)
Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

Regardless of what is said in this thread I for one agree with your post. It is sad and troublesome that we have lost so many of our heroes for anything less than our freedom but I believe we have.

Guest 02-09-2016 07:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183740)
Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

Wow you really have some inside information.
The bin laden folk lore is just that. It was nothing more than a process that culminated during the time Obama was in office. What did HE do to make it happen? Nothing. Ask Leon Panetta about that.

All the rest of the above is pure partisan, pull the string in the neck of the doll BS!

Guest 02-09-2016 09:07 PM

Bernie Sander has never had private-sector job in his life.

What the heck are you THINKING???? Can't you see what Ideology & Nothing More is ruining this country??

http://www.biography.com/people/bernie-sanders

Guest 02-09-2016 10:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183775)
Wow you really have some inside information.
The bin laden folk lore is just that. It was nothing more than a process that culminated during the time Obama was in office. What did HE do to make it happen? Nothing. Ask Leon Panetta about that.

All the rest of the above is pure partisan, pull the string in the neck of the doll BS!

You just can't handle the truth....Bush gave up trying to get Bin Laden and abandoned the troops he sent to the middle east with lies!

Bin Laden was killed on Obama's watch......

Guest 02-09-2016 10:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183740)
Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

Just curious, when have you ever put your life the line for anyone or anything? Oh, by the way, elbowing your way the the front of the line at Dunkin' Donuts doesn't count.:D

Guest 02-10-2016 06:03 AM

So why not tell us...
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1183747)
Too funny. I came across this article, while looking up something else. I don't watch Fox News at all. You are in the minority that doesn't take Fox News as gospel on everything. If you are looking for an informed conclusion, Fox News is the last place you want to look.


Thanks for the advice. I won't take Fox News as the be all to end all on its opinions.

where you go for an "informed conclusion"...this I have to hear...

Guest 02-10-2016 06:09 AM

Ahhhh....
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1183740)
Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

the liberal agenda. Believing in the liberal press will only get you a narrow version of history. Perhaps you might dig a little deeper to find the reasons for those conflicts...no? I guess it's easier to get your information from those who gave zero for out country than giving thanks to those who served at our countries behest.

It's easy to recognize the those who not only didn't serve, but likely fled to Canada when their time was due for military service. Not only did "you" not get him, but probably had your head in the sand while it happened.

Guest 02-10-2016 06:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183748)
By the way "We got him" we mean the Republicans failed to get the man that attacked the US leaving the job to the next President. So the Navy Seals under the orders of President Obama took him out!

Try again. The Navy Seals were operating under standing orders issued by President George W. Bush. They were in the compound when they had to get Obama off the golf course for final approval. My opinion is they did it that way so as to back the president into a corner where he couldn't say "No". So, Obama's contribution was essentially zero. You can thank Bush for ridding the world of Bin Laden

Guest 02-10-2016 06:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183740)
Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

Using your definition, the only "just" wars, the only ones where our freedom was at stake by virtue of an attack on America would be the war of 1812 and WWII. Afghanistan comes close, given 9-11, but Al Qaeda did not have the resources to continue an attack.
For all other wars, remember Carl von Clausewitz---"War is the continuation of politics by other means". Please do not denigrate the service of those who fought and died in those conflicts. I will refrain from shredding to pieces your erroneous assessments of the conflicts you listed, but you may want to decrease your MSNBC viewing time

Guest 02-10-2016 07:00 AM

Sanders is a savior.

What are you smoking and where do I get some?

Guest 02-10-2016 08:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183749)
Another one whose level of education is showing!!!

Siberia was under Communist rule!

Duhhh! That was the point, DA.

Guest 02-10-2016 08:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183740)
Once again with the "country I fought for"? In which war or conflict did you fight to preserve American freedom?

Korea? No, that was not to preserve American freedom.

Vietnam? No, that was a civil war that had nothing to do with American freedom.

Desert Storm I? No, it was to preserve American oil interests.

Crapweasel Iraq War? No. Just based on lies and nothing else.

Afghanistan? Object was to get bin Laden. We got him.

Those that were too cowardly to serve disparage the patriotic. You think you know better than millions of others that have served and died, but in reality you are just trying to justify your cowardice. And it IS your American right to be a coward. We have plenty of real Americans that will protect you. I'd bet you are also one of those that believes in gun control. Talk about someone that lives in a protective bubble. Some day, your bubble will pop and you will probably fall apart. Hope you have a speed dial setup for the suicide hot line.

Guest 02-10-2016 08:25 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183858)
Sanders is a savior.

What are you smoking and where do I get some?

It must be some strong stuff, for sure.

Guest 02-10-2016 08:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183774)
Regardless of what is said in this thread I for one agree with your post. It is sad and troublesome that we have lost so many of our heroes for anything less than our freedom but I believe we have.

Are you FREE?? Then ask one of those heroes. Hope you enjoy the freedom you have in your little bubble of ignorance.

Guest 02-10-2016 09:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183881)
Those that were too cowardly to serve disparage the patriotic. You think you know better than millions of others that have served and died, but in reality you are just trying to justify your cowardice. And it IS your American right to be a coward. We have plenty of real Americans that will protect you. I'd bet you are also one of those that believes in gun control. Talk about someone that lives in a protective bubble. Some day, your bubble will pop and you will probably fall apart. Hope you have a speed dial setup for the suicide hot line.

"I'd bet you are also one of those that believes in gun control."

No I don't, I believe you should be able to buy anything you want, machine guns, grenade launchers, missile launchers, atom and nuclear bombs, chemical warfare items, ect. ect. lol

Guest 02-10-2016 10:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183846)
where you go for an "informed conclusion"...this I have to hear...

I come here, of course. Where else would you to get such "fair and balanced" news? Isn't everyone here objective in their posts? It certainly looks like it. Having a open mind is a trait shared by everyone here. There are no hardline, caste in stone political party loyalists here. No one is on the extreme of their party. Everyone's opinion is subject to change.

Guest 02-10-2016 11:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183951)
I come here, of course. Where else would you to get such "fair and balanced" news? Isn't everyone here objective in their posts? It certainly looks like it. Having a open mind is a trait shared by everyone here. There are no hardline, caste in stone political party loyalists here. No one is on the extreme of their party. Everyone's opinion is subject to change.

You are absolutely right. Everybody here leaves subjective at home and wipes clear any preconceived notions and acquired prejudices. And they keep their postings succinct and on point.

Guest 02-10-2016 11:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183951)
I come here, of course. Where else would you to get such "fair and balanced" news? Isn't everyone here objective in their posts? It certainly looks like it. Having a open mind is a trait shared by everyone here. There are no hardline, caste in stone political party loyalists here. No one is on the extreme of their party. Everyone's opinion is subject to change.

But not when it comes to fighting against socialism. That is Anti-American and no real American will sit back and allow it to corrupt our American Freedom. Bernie Sanders is a communist, and should go back to the USSR and retire.

Guest 02-10-2016 05:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183853)
Try again. The Navy Seals were operating under standing orders issued by President George W. Bush. They were in the compound when they had to get Obama off the golf course for final approval. My opinion is they did it that way so as to back the president into a corner where he couldn't say "No". So, Obama's contribution was essentially zero. You can thank Bush for ridding the world of Bin Laden

You just can't give credit where credit is due....

This is what Bush said when questioned by Fox News

FLASHBACK: Bush On Bin Laden: 'I Really Just Don't Spend That Much Time On Him' | ThinkProgress

You lose....Obama gave the order for the Seals to raid the compound

Death of Osama bin Laden Fast Facts - CNN.com

Bush said he wasn't important and Obama ordered him killed!!

Guest 02-21-2016 04:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183688)
Sanders is a commie. Some of us fought commies in the past. He is an American but his ideology is the enemy. He is way too old and has been a commie for too long for rehabilitation.

So:
Scratch Sanders
Scratch Hillary

Equals: Dem's zero

I'm sorry, but I think that anyone that has a "Commie" remark is an a-hole. Can't you say something constructive?

Guest 02-21-2016 06:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188920)
I'm sorry, but I think that anyone that has a "Commie" remark is an a-hole. Can't you say something constructive?

A personal attack with nothing to say about the subject of the thread? Why is that not a surprise? Sanders is a commie. He is a despicable and nasty dirty old man. He didn't have a full time job before he was 40 years old and made a bit of a living, writing porno stories. He was married in the Soviet Union. What American, with American principles would get married in a Communist country, unless they were communist? He says he is a socialist and you must be a socialist in order to a communist. So, why don't you convince us that he is anything other than a "commie?" Or, is that too much effort for a lazy liberal?

Guest 02-21-2016 06:22 PM

In one article Sanders authored, "A woman enjoys intercourse with her man — as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously." He wrote some other stuff that is too intense to quote on here.

Guest 02-21-2016 06:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183729)
Why would I leave the country that I have fought for? You, on the other hand will end up in Siberia eventually if Sanders wins. Sanders and Putin are probably long lost cousins.





It wasn't that long ago when the TOTV Cons were drooling all over themselves and raving what a great leader Putin is.

Don't hear his praises much anymore from the TOTV Commie Cons.

Guess you Cons are waiting for your updated talking points from the Koch- roach brothers.

Guest 02-21-2016 06:41 PM

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It wasn't that long ago when the TOTV Cons were drooling all over themselves and raving what a great leader Putin is.

Don't hear his praises much anymore from the TOTV Commie Cons.

Guess you Cons are waiting for your updated talking points from the Koch- roach brothers.

You can lead a liberal to the truth, but you can't make them THINK !

Guest 02-21-2016 07:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183688)
Sanders is a commie. Some of us fought commies in the past. He is an American but his ideology is the enemy. He is way too old and has been a commie for too long for rehabilitation.

So:
Scratch Sanders
Scratch Hillary

Equals: Dem's zero

A perfect example of someone who is un-American. Just because you were a supposed fighter doesn't give you the right to brand people unjustly.

Guest 02-21-2016 08:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183857)
Using your definition, the only "just" wars, the only ones where our freedom was at stake by virtue of an attack on America would be the war of 1812 and WWII. Afghanistan comes close, given 9-11, but Al Qaeda did not have the resources to continue an attack.
For all other wars, remember Carl von Clausewitz---"War is the continuation of politics by other means". Please do not denigrate the service of those who fought and died in those conflicts. I will refrain from shredding to pieces your erroneous assessments of the conflicts you listed, but you may want to decrease your MSNBC viewing time

Well said sir. Often times we have gone to war with the information we had at a hand. Everyone has 20-20 hindsight, but it took courage for the people who made those decision to do so. They did them, I might add, with the backing of congress.

Guest 02-21-2016 08:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188970)
A perfect example of someone who is un-American. Just because you were a supposed fighter doesn't give you the right to brand people unjustly.

Sure it does. It's a free country and there is an old saying that I once saw engraved on a zippo in Vietnam. It went something like this:

"For those who fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never taste."

The wording may be off a bit, but the idea is there.

Guest 02-21-2016 08:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188970)
A perfect example of someone who is un-American. Just because you were a supposed fighter doesn't give you the right to brand people unjustly.

Unjustly???? You might want to learn something of the scumbag you are defending. Google is your friend.

Guest 02-21-2016 11:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1183877)
Duhhh! That was the point, DA.

DA but Sanders is NOT a Commie he is Socialist!


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