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Guest 11-05-2008 01:13 AM

Godspeed President-Elect Obama
 
The time for celebration is short. The path of what's needed to fix the ills we currently face is long, steep and will have many twists and turns. The planning for a permanent government is apparently well underway and we'll learn more in the days ahead. Our new President will need support from all of us.

Our President-elect spoke to us almost without exultation, expressed the hope we all yearn for, and soberly asked for the help and support from all Americans.

I hope we can heal the political devisiveness of years past and of the recent campaign. I trust our new leaders will establish the proper priorities. I am encouraged that we may return to world leadership. And I pray for their good judgment.

Godspeed Barack Obama.

Guest 11-05-2008 05:54 AM

Historical night indeed. Lets just hope all get behind him. Was very nice for once to see McCain tell the poeple that were booing to stop at his speech. I was so gald to Obama win Floirda also. Alot of people showed their trust in the system and him as a person.

Guest 11-05-2008 06:20 AM

Moderate Republican Woman -- Me.

So furious with what had always been my party.

Yet, somewhere deep in my heart, still weighing all of it. Fiscally conservative me. Thinking about it all too hard. Weary of those robocalls, firing shots targeted at inducing paranoia. "Is that all ya' got?" I would ask and hang up before the robot did.

Finally, on Monday afternoon, I quite simply pictured how I would feel this morning. I pictured both scenarios.

I voted for the winner.

I went with hope.

Boomer

Guest 11-05-2008 07:33 AM

Boomer, although I too am a Moderate I voted for McCain. Neither would have been my choice. I didn't have strong feelings about the election, didn't stay up to see.

But I agree again Boomer. We will all hope for a better tomorrow.

Guest 11-05-2008 08:07 AM

I don't think most people grasp the consequence of last nights election. Believe me, they will.

Guest 11-05-2008 08:30 AM

dk, I am one of those who does realize what the consequences of yesterdays election are and I pray I am wrong.

Karen

Guest 11-05-2008 08:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171612)
Boomer, although I too am a Moderate I voted for McCain. Neither would have been my choice. I didn't have strong feelings about the election, didn't stay up to see.

But I agree again Boomer. We will all hope for a better tomorrow.

That's OK, GG. Mr. Boomer canceled my vote out. So I guess we were not responsible for Ohio.

This decision was so difficult. I considered not voting at all. I finally did all I could do.

Hope.

Prayers.

Hope.

Boomer

Guest 11-05-2008 09:14 AM

I don’t think God Speed is in order as much as asking for God’s forgiveness.

He is in favor of socialized medicine.
He is in favor of raising social security taxes
He is in favor of raising capitol gains taxes on business
He is favor of raising income taxes.
He is in favor of killing unborn children at will.
He is in favor of reducing our military by at least 25%
He is in favor of moving money from one segment of the population to another.
He is in favor of completely changing most of the core principles that have made this the most successful nation in the world.
He is not a capitalist.
He is not a supporter of Israel.
He is not pro-business.
He is not in favor of energy independence or drilling for our own oil.

I don’t see how any of this can be good for our county and it frightens me that some actually think it is. Change is what we wanted and change is what we are going to get.

I am truly depressed today.

Guest 11-05-2008 09:23 AM

DK..
You forgot to mention that the dems also will now control the house, the senate and Pres. Elect. BHO.

That is a scary scenario but there will be no one else to blame for failed programs AND on the other hand they should get all the credit for any successes.
:undecided:

Guest 11-05-2008 09:28 AM

dklassen and Karen, you are so right. It shows how much our country has changed. To top it off, Al Franken is only 571 votes behind Norm Coleman. Even though 100% of the vote is in I'm sure they will keep recounting until Franken gets the win. What a great night for George Soros, ACORN and the media.

Guest 11-05-2008 09:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171633)
I don’t think God Speed is in order as much as asking for God’s forgiveness.

He is in favor of socialized medicine.
He is in favor of raising social security taxes
He is in favor of raising capitol gains taxes on business
He is favor of raising income taxes.
He is in favor of killing unborn children at will.
He is in favor of reducing our military by at least 25%
He is in favor of moving money from one segment of the population to another.
He is in favor of completely changing most of the core principles that have made this the most successful nation in the world.
He is not a capitalist.
He is not a supporter of Israel.
He is not pro-business.
He is not in favor of energy independence or drilling for our own oil.

I don’t see how any of this can be good for our county and it frightens me that some actually think it is. Change is what we wanted and change is what we are going to get.

I am truly depressed today.

I had hoped that the misleading falsehoods and slandering would stop after the election, but I was wrong. Maybe a year from now all you conservatives will see things a little differently.

Guest 11-05-2008 09:38 AM

Falsehoods and slandering? Are you serious?

He himself has addressed all of these things during his campaign. I am just restating his platform.

Guest 11-05-2008 09:49 AM

Well Said!
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 171638)
I had hoped that the misleading falsehoods and slandering would stop after the election, but I was wrong. Maybe a year from now all you conservatives will see things a little differently.

I completely agree with you Rekop, although I think it will take more than one year to dig us out of the mess he's been left with.
:agree:

Guest 11-05-2008 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171650)
I completely agree with you Rekop, although I think it will take more than one year to dig us out of the mess he's been left with.
:agree:

I whole heartedly support the notion of the OP and really do hope that Obama proves me and the almost half of the country who voted against him wrong. However, I think it is a bit presumptuous to assume that all Republicans will just hop on the bandwagon and "get over it". Afterall, a huge part of the "mess" that Obama inherits is the political divisions that are still in this country. This mess is a direct result of the Dems who couldn't get over the 2000 election and have been making unfair allegations (yes, there were some fair ones as well) against Bush and Republicans for 8 long years. Those wounds will take time to heal and post like the above will not help that process.

Guest 11-05-2008 10:19 AM

That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie was the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. During those, the Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault no matter what he does.

I'll sign off now and stop commenting. We'll see where we end up.

Guest 11-05-2008 10:21 AM

That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was all way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie were the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. The Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault.

I'll stop commenting now and move on. We'll see where we end up.

Guest 11-05-2008 10:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171599)
Historical night indeed. Lets just hope all get behind him. Was very nice for once to see McCain tell the poeple that were booing to stop at his speech. I was so gald to Obama win Floirda also. Alot of people showed their trust in the system and him as a person.

Thank you. Now we all have to work together to get the job done & restore our country. No more division, fear and/or racism. This is too serious.

Michael Moore (yes, that Michael Moore) has also summed up the feelings of many of us in this message:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...dex.php?id=240

Guest 11-05-2008 10:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171615)
I don't think most people grasp the consequence of last nights election. Believe me, they will.

always good to know almost 63 million people know something, heck even Ohio and Florida and Virginia got on the bus. I guess we could all be wrong, maybe we have already got it.

Guest 11-05-2008 11:02 AM

Huh???
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 171669)
That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was all way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie were the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. The Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault.

I'll stop commenting now and move on. We'll see where we end up.

DK, did you post this twice because you think we missed this too? :1rotfl:

Guest 11-05-2008 11:06 AM

I think it should be noted that my esteemed partner up there is now in the minority.
:laugh:

Guest 11-05-2008 11:15 AM

DKlassen, You are so right. The media has been brutal from the first day Bush took office. It's a joke that Dodd and Frank are in charge of fixing the mortgage crisis when they are one of the main causes of it. It's been the last two years that things have gone south, but you'll never hear it from the MSM. they wonder why their circulation is down. DUH!!!

Guest 11-05-2008 11:23 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 171669)
That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was all way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie were the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. The Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault.

I'll stop commenting now and move on. We'll see where we end up.

Here's another take on the economic crisis: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ic_crisis.html

It basically says the crisis was due to a collective effort, not just the Republicans, or Democrats. The information is non-partisan, from factcheck.org

But I think if the country is going to heal, we have to get past the "blame" stage, and fix what's wrong. One reason many people voted for Obama is that he comes across as an intelligent, charismatic leader, who can bridge the divides in this country to accomplish what needs to be done. Only time will tell.

Guest 11-05-2008 11:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171689)
DKlassen, You are so right. The media has been brutal from the first day Bush took office. It's a joke that Dodd and Frank are in charge of fixing the mortgage crisis when they are one of the main causes of it. It's been the last two years that things have gone south, but you'll never hear it from the MSM. they wonder why their circulation is down. DUH!!!

Yes the media has been brutal, not only to Bush but to Obama. He has taken a beating from the McCain Camp on everything that the media pushed on. From Ayers to being a Muslim. The election is over, and it seems the majority of the country thought that also. If McCain had ran his ralleys as he did his speech lastnight, he would have got more. Even his Joe The Plumber Ohio turned on him.
Lets all give it a break and see what happens, you never know.

Guest 11-05-2008 11:56 AM

The media was Obama's best friend. They are always bias to the left, but this election they where way over the top. Even some Democrats seemed embarrassed by the fawning. They did very little vetting. Sarah Palin was raked over the coals like nothing I've ever seen before.

Guest 11-05-2008 12:00 PM

My daughter Boomette, the longtime Democrat, just called. She said that supposedly the Democrats who got Republican seats are more moderate Democrats or know they have to be because they got Republican votes and they will want to keep their new jobs.

I don't know about all that, but Boomette makes a study of these things.

Boomette and I were hopeful together this morning. Ol' moderate Republican me and the daughter who tells me I brought her up to be a Democrat. Who knew???

Anyway, part of the hope I have is the hope that surely we as citizens will keep a much closer eye on our government than we have been. Congress has nearly slaughtered us in our sleep. We can't forget that.

Boomer

Guest 11-05-2008 12:26 PM

As a postscript to dklassen's claim that Obama is not pro Israel, according to CNN Obama got 78% of the Jewish vote. I think that pretty much speaks for itself.

Guest 11-05-2008 01:03 PM

I have said in several posts today....
 
BHO is no different than ALL other prospective candidates in that they will say whatever has to be said to get elected. Lest we forget....HE IS A POLITICIAN whose priority has always been to get elected....it's what they do.
I am willing to wait and see if he can deliver, because like it or not...none of us know whether he can or will be able to....all we can do is wait and see.
Those who are already clucking about what he will do are entitled to their opinion.
History has shown that politicians delivery after the win is not even close to the promises made before being elected.
In that regard, BHO is no different until HE PROVES OTHERWISE....
I for example past Presidents would have delivered there would be no energy crisis....how many promised to see that would not happen, both parties.
How many past Presidents were going to see to it there was adequate health care/ Most every one including the Clintons. How many past Presidents were going to be sure to fixx social security so future generations won't have the problem at hand (THEN)? Most of them.

I don't think I have to name any more than those three. They ALL promised change. How sad we can't even look to any one of the issues above and say yeah, but at least there was some improvement. In fact they are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse off than before or after any of them took office....and they were there before some of your favorite George W. Bush.

History has duly recorded there is rare connection between talking the talk and delivering the goods.

So history documents that no one party should be so critical of another when they have each had their turn at....FAILURE to deliver what is important to we the people.

The only realistic statement I have seen since the election is from those who say...he has a long hard road to haul all those promises. We'll see.
I view he has as much chance of making the changes promised as we the people have in getting the silent majority to demand our President, regardless who, do their :cus: job and deliver on that which got them the job in the first place. We all know how futile a reality that goal is!!!!!
So, we'll see.

BTK

Guest 11-05-2008 01:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171704)
The media was Obama's best friend. They are always bias to the left, but this election they where way over the top. Even some Democrats seemed embarrassed by the fawning. They did very little vetting. Sarah Palin was raked over the coals like nothing I've ever seen before.


When you accuse people like she did, has no clue as to what her job entailed let alone try to explain it. That is what happens. if you live in a glass house expect it. i wish i would of counted everytime i heard her say terrorist associations. i would be rich.

Guest 11-05-2008 01:39 PM

I certainly wish President-elct Obama Godspeed. I started a thread hoping God will give wisdom to our new President. I will support him but also maintian my viligence that he remembers this quote from Abraham Lincoln,,,,

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. "

Guest 11-05-2008 02:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171667)
That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie was the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. During those, the Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault no matter what he does.

I'll sign off now and stop commenting. We'll see where we end up.

For what it's worth... the Dow wasn't celebrating the results of the election as of noon today.

Guest 11-05-2008 02:29 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 171667)
That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie was the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. During those, the Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault no matter what he does.

I'll sign off now and stop commenting. We'll see where we end up.


You may want to read this article from todays Wall Street Journal written by a man who worked with John Kerry in 2004.....

"The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace "

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html

Guest 11-05-2008 03:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171733)
For what it's worth... the Dow wasn't celebrating the results of the election as of noon today.

No, according to the media the Dow was reacting to reports showing deep cuts in employment by private employers, possibly foreshadowing weakness in the government's employment report on Friday. Other data showed companies planned layoffs at the highest level in nearly five years.

Guest 11-05-2008 03:45 PM

I have a plan to fix the lay off issues.

Raise business capitol gains and corporate income taxes.

Oh wait... that's the plan of our new President. :coolsmiley:

Guest 11-05-2008 03:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171755)
I have a plan to fix the lay off issues.

Raise business capitol gains and corporate income taxes.

Oh wait... that's the plan of our new President. :coolsmiley:

Dow now down almost 500 points. Maybe investors are connecting th dots.

Guest 11-05-2008 08:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171758)
Dow now down almost 500 points. Maybe investors are connecting th dots.

It's amazing to be this uninformed.

It's cloudy and cool in TV today. No doubt due to the election results.

Guest 11-06-2008 06:34 AM

:faint: I am trying to figure out why I have not seen some of the people hear running for office, they all got the right ideas and everyone else in office is wrong. Waiting for some of these name to appear next election.

Guest 11-06-2008 11:51 AM

The bottom line is, the country has spoken, and many of the posters in this forum are in the minority. Perhaps they should re-evaluate their thinking and admit that maybe they are WRONG.

Guest 11-06-2008 12:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171945)
The bottom line is, the country has spoken, and many of the posters in this forum are in the minority. Perhaps they should re-evaluate their thinking and admit that maybe they are WRONG.

Being in the majority is not necessarily being in the RIGHT, and the question is the obvious - wrong about what?

The rule of law applies, and the election results only identify who will fill what job. Right and wrong will ultimately be determined by performance, not rhetoric.

Here's hoping there will be more than pre-election rhetoric this time, as that what has happened in every election in my memory.

Guest 11-06-2008 01:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171945)
The bottom line is, the country has spoken, and many of the posters in this forum are in the minority. Perhaps they should re-evaluate their thinking and admit that maybe they are WRONG.


If I am reading this correctly, somewhere around 56 million americans are beinug called WRONG by you !!

I did not know this was a GAME....rather an election to the Presidency of the man/woman that the country thought would be be able to serve our interests in the country and around the world. NOT an inventory of RIGHT AND WRONG. That is the problem that exists in this country....ie., to look at these results in this manner.

If you honestly feel that those 56 million are WRONG and your side is right, you are just feeding the problem !

Guest 11-06-2008 02:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171977)
If I am reading this correctly, somewhere around 56 million americans are beinug called WRONG by you !!

I did not know this was a GAME....rather an election to the Presidency of the man/woman that the country thought would be be able to serve our interests in the country and around the world. NOT an inventory of RIGHT AND WRONG. That is the problem that exists in this country....ie., to look at these results in this manner.

If you honestly feel that those 56 million are WRONG and your side is right, you are just feeding the problem !

Well i gues you are saying that 64,249,045 people are wrong on the other hand. Cant win for loosing. Got to give them a chance before they can be wrong. ALways 2 sides to a argument.


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