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kdkrenz 02-17-2016 09:41 AM

Recharging stations in the squares
 
Is there a place to get a quick charge in any of the squares?

Mudder 02-17-2016 09:55 AM

Nope

Jima64 02-17-2016 10:01 AM

Not at present time. Can you imagine how much this would be abused by people not removing cart promptly after charging so someone else could use it.

llaran 02-17-2016 10:01 AM

The only place I know of is Outback in Spanish Springs, they have a sigh out front.

RickeyD 02-17-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1186943)
Not at present time. Can you imagine how much this would be abused by people not removing cart promptly after charging so someone else could use it.


Chair saving is nothing compared to the fuel fistfights that would ensue.

Rickg 02-17-2016 11:05 AM

I stopped at the villages golf cart store once and they charged it for me. They were really nice about it.

jane032657 02-17-2016 11:46 AM

Don't tell anyone I told you. Check out the Assisted Living Parking Lots. Many of them have charging stations. I'm sure it can be our secret here on TOTV, LOL!

RickeyD 02-17-2016 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kdkrenz (Post 1186934)
Is there a place to get a quick charge in any of the squares?


Gasoline, best portable energy source known to mankind.

golfing eagles 02-17-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1187021)
Gasoline, best portable energy source known to mankind.

Better than "Mr. Fusion"????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

RickeyD 02-17-2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1187032)
Better than "Mr. Fusion"????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Sorry, that was a one off. Doesn't count

RickeyD 02-17-2016 02:04 PM

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Better than "Mr. Fusion"????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Wait ! I was wrong, available on Amazon ( of course )Attachment 57770

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-17-2016 02:06 PM

I don't see why a number of credit card operated machines can't be placed in strategic places around the squares.

It they were made expensive enough so that people only used them in an emergency I don't think that people would be plugging in and leaving their carts there.

They could be set up in such a way that as long as your cart is plugged, you'd be getting charged by the minute. That way people wouldn't be leaving their carts plugged in any longer than necessary.

RickeyD 02-17-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1187045)
I don't see why a number of credit card operated machines can't be placed in strategic places around the squares.



It they were made expensive enough so that people only used them in an emergency I don't think that people would be plugging in and leaving their carts there.



They could be set up in such a way that as long as your cart is plugged, you'd be getting charged by the minute. That way people wouldn't be leaving their carts plugged in any longer than necessary.


You stole that idea from Elon Musk !

rubicon 02-17-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1187045)
I don't see why a number of credit card operated machines can't be placed in strategic places around the squares.

It they were made expensive enough so that people only used them in an emergency I don't think that people would be plugging in and leaving their carts there.

They could be set up in such a way that as long as your cart is plugged, you'd be getting charged by the minute. That way people wouldn't be leaving their carts plugged in any longer than necessary.

I agree but the hackers would be at our door steps.

JoMar 02-17-2016 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kdkrenz (Post 1186934)
Is there a place to get a quick charge in any of the squares?

Why would you need a quick charge? Old Cart? Don't have an outlet in the garage? Prius?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-18-2016 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1187046)
You stole that idea from Elon Musk !

I have no idea who or what Elon Musk is.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-18-2016 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1187079)
I agree but the hackers would be at our door steps.

Huh? Hackers?

tuccillo 02-18-2016 08:38 AM

It's a new men's cologne ;-)


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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1187274)
I have no idea who or what Elon Musk is.


Chatbrat 02-18-2016 09:05 AM

Elon Musk-makes the Tesla, great car -but it doesn't have enough range for an ordered evacuation and if the power is out after a major event you're toast

bagboy 02-18-2016 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1187299)
Elon Musk-makes the Tesla, great car -but it doesn't have enough range for an ordered evacuation and if the power is out after a major event you're toast

He is also the founder of SpaceX, a private space travel endeavor.

Taltarzac725 02-18-2016 09:12 AM

How long does it on average take to recharge a golf cart? We have a gas one.

tuccillo 02-18-2016 09:21 AM

If the power is out after a major event you can't pump gas either.

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1187299)
Elon Musk-makes the Tesla, great car -but it doesn't have enough range for an ordered evacuation and if the power is out after a major event you're toast


looneycat 02-18-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1187214)
Why would you need a quick charge? Old Cart? Don't have an outlet in the garage? Prius?

most electrics, in their second year and beyond on their batteries, lose enough capacity to surprise you when it suddenly takes a long time getting up hills.

golfing eagles 02-18-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1187310)
If the power is out after a major event you can't pump gas either.

No, but I can keep a 5 gallon plastic can in my garage and use it when needed. Can't keep an electric charge in a bottle. (Yes, I know about Leyden jars, but won't charge a golf cart)

MoeVonB61 02-18-2016 10:47 AM

Probably because we have so many people that do not live in the Villages coming to enjoy the Entertainment at the Squares as it is. Evem Katie Belles is now charging non residents for their entertainment....I personally PREFER charging stations be accessible to amenity paying residents only....!

Walter123 02-18-2016 10:54 AM

If charging stations appear in the squares it won't be long until someone puts a rope across them to reserve for a friend.

golfing eagles 02-18-2016 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mrich61 (Post 1187357)
Probably because we have so many people that do not live in the Villages coming to enjoy the Entertainment at the Squares as it is. Evem Katie Belles is now charging non residents for their entertainment....I personally PREFER charging stations be accessible to amenity paying residents only....!

If someone is not a resident of TV, it is highly unlikely they will arrive at a square in an electric cart.

tuccillo 02-18-2016 11:02 AM

Sure you can but how many people actually do? In The Villages, probably very few. And when your 5 gallons is gone and the electricity is still off you aren't going anywhere. Our society is totally dependent on electricity. Gasoline is a very convenient way of transporting energy because of it's enormous energy density (for example, with golf carts, it can be about 80x denser than lead-acid batteries, for a Tesla the numbers are much better: about 22x) but it's production and distribution are still dependent on electricity.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1187346)
No, but I can keep a 5 gallon plastic can in my garage and use it when needed. Can't keep an electric charge in a bottle. (Yes, I know about Leyden jars, but won't charge a golf cart)


golfing eagles 02-18-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1187368)
Sure you can but how many people actually do? In The Villages, probably very few. And when your 5 gallons is gone and the electricity is still off you aren't going anywhere. Our society is totally dependent on electricity. Gasoline is a very convenient way of transporting energy because of it's enormous energy density (for golf carts, it can be about 80x denser than lead-acid batteries) but it's production and distribution are still dependent on electricity.

If the electricity is STILL out after driving 350 miles in my golf cart, we all have bigger problems than driving around TV

tuccillo 02-18-2016 11:49 AM

The original comment was about the range of a Tesla, not a golf cart, and presumably leaving The Villages after some sort of major event. Full disclosure: I don't own a Tesla or hybrid car and I have a gas golf cart.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1187392)
If the electricity is STILL out after driving 350 miles in my golf cart, we all have bigger problems than driving around TV


tuccillo 02-18-2016 12:33 PM

Then they will have create another PSA to tell people that reserving the charging stations is prohibited ;-)

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1187361)
If charging stations appear in the squares it won't be long until someone puts a rope across them to reserve for a friend.


Walter123 02-18-2016 01:56 PM

This thread has run out of gas.:agree:

JoMar 02-18-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1187326)
most electrics, in their second year and beyond on their batteries, lose enough capacity to surprise you when it suddenly takes a long time getting up hills.

Must be the older technology carts but none of the Squares is that far from anyplace in TV. I think the problem is they don't plug them in at night or watch their instruments. I'm in the second year with two electrics which is why this subject always amazes me. Running out of power is, as it is when a gas cart runs out of gas, usually a user error.

Topspinmo 02-18-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1187398)
The original comment was about the range of a Tesla, not a golf cart, and presumably leaving The Villages after some sort of major event. Full disclosure: I don't own a Tesla or hybrid car and I have a gas golf cart.

Why not put portable gas generator in trunk of the tesla? When it goes dead get out the portable gas gen. Fire her up and charge away:ohdear:

tuccillo 02-18-2016 07:46 PM

I don't know. Ask Elon Musk.

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1187488)
Why not put portable gas generator in trunk of the tesla? When it goes dead get out the portable gas gen. Fire her up and charge away:ohdear:


looneycat 02-18-2016 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1187478)
Must be the older technology carts but none of the Squares is that far from anyplace in TV. I think the problem is they don't plug them in at night or watch their instruments. I'm in the second year with two electrics which is why this subject always amazes me. Running out of power is, as it is when a gas cart runs out of gas, usually a user error.

not so old tech as I have seen 3 electrics dead on path sides in the last week, at least 2 were current models. if you are going from charlotte to the sharon, or savannah center plus other shopping it can easily happen, in fact it is the reason many switched to gas since the villages has grown so much.

ajbrown 02-18-2016 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1187478)
Must be the older technology carts but none of the Squares is that far from anyplace in TV. I think the problem is they don't plug them in at night or watch their instruments. I'm in the second year with two electrics which is why this subject always amazes me. Running out of power is, as it is when a gas cart runs out of gas, usually a user error.

I agree and add to the sentence in bold...

It is hard to know how folks run out of 'fuel'. I can only guess that they are ignorant to the state of charge of the pack and the meaning. Even if there was user error, e.g. not plugging in, someone who knows the 'fuel' level in the pack would see the error long before being stranded.

The only analogy I can think of is driving a car without a gas gauge. You cannot see in the tank, you fill it up once a week, but you never know how much fuel is in the tank. One week you drive it too far and oops...

Driving an electric cart (or any vehicle) around without a way to see the 'fuel' left in the pack is asking for trouble.

ajbrown 02-18-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1187587)
not so old tech as I have seen 3 electrics dead on path sides in the last week, at least 2 were current models. if you are going from charlotte to the sharon, or savannah center plus other shopping it can easily happen, in fact it is the reason many switched to gas since the villages has grown so much.

Without knowing the facts, one cannot guess how they got stranded.

As to your trip example, this is a very small trip. Let's take a trip, Brownwood to Glenview to The Sharon to Belle Glade and back to Brownwood, about 30 miles...

I still am at 49.5 volts, now where you want to go :D? Make sure you have the right pack configuration for your needs, understand it and things will go well..

PS. I do understand some folks do require and/or want a gas cart, but seldom for the reasons mentioned on this forum.

Bogie Shooter 02-19-2016 08:56 AM

I was told when I bought my first electric cart, 14 years ago, to always plug in the charger after every use..................its then always fully charged and ready for the next trip.

Walter123 02-19-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1187693)
I was told when I bought my first electric cart, 14 years ago, to always plug in the charger after every use..................its then always fully charged and ready for the next trip.

Exactly. That's what I do too. 5 years on the same set of batteries and still going strong.


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