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Pointer 02-20-2016 01:11 PM

golf cart accident by Colony
 
I just came past about 13 police and emergency vehicles on 466A. Looked like a really bad accident happened in the tunnel that goes over to Colony on the golf course side.
They have the golf path taped off limits and you can't get through that way by cart. They didn't seem to be diverting car traffic but the line of emergency vehicles has reduced 466A to one lane. I have a bad feeling that something really serious happened given what I could see from the other side. I don't know how one would get around there by cart. Maybe best to take a car if you need to go that way.

graciegirl 02-20-2016 01:19 PM

This strikes fear and sadness to all of our hearts. Hoping somehow the victim will be alright.

joldnol 02-20-2016 01:30 PM

details are on the forbidden site

joldnol 02-20-2016 01:32 PM

suv jumped the curb and nailed a cart on the multimodal. Driver of the suv had a medical incident....three passengers in the cart are in serious condition

Chatbrat 02-20-2016 02:40 PM

If your car doesn't have it, time to think about automatic braking features-in our community these episodes are becoming more & more commonplace.

We have it both of our cars and its always paying attention, just in case we're not

Taltarzac725 02-20-2016 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1188377)
If your car doesn't have it, time to think about automatic braking features-in our community these episodes are becoming more & more commonplace.

We have it both of our cars and its always paying attention, just in case we're not

Any details on cost and the like??

jdsl1998 02-20-2016 03:43 PM

Prayers go out with every sirens blair.

NYGUY 02-20-2016 03:48 PM

I just went past the tunnel under Morse, south of 466A, and the Community Watch guy blocking the tunnel told me their was at least one fatality. Several people will be needing our prayers.

dbussone 02-20-2016 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYGUY (Post 1188412)
I just went past the tunnel under Morse, south of 466A, and the Community Watch guy blocking the tunnel told me their was at least one fatality. Several people will be needing our prayers.


Very sad news indeed. I started praying with the initial news, but will certainly be continuing. Thank you for the update.

outlaw 02-20-2016 03:56 PM

More medical related accidents in this place due to age. I cringe whenever I see people walking with traffic streets or MMP. I want to tell them to walk against traffic, but I know better.

Chatbrat 02-20-2016 06:59 PM

What price do you put on your life--buy a car that will protect you & yours

Its about time people realize the death traps that golf carts are-they are & were designed to be driven engulf courses ,NOT on roads in close proximity to cars & trucks

Its your life- we don't own a golf cart & never will--our lives and physical health are more valuable than so called convenience & $$$$

Bogie Shooter 02-20-2016 07:08 PM

Differant strokes for differant folks.........

joldnol 02-20-2016 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1188492)
What price do you put on your life--buy a car that will protect you & yours

Its about time people realize the death traps that golf carts are-they are & were designed to be driven engulf courses ,NOT on roads in close proximity to cars & trucks

Its your life- we don't own a golf cart & never will--our lives and physical health are more valuable than so called convenience & $$$$

unless you are in as big or bigger suv, you would be just as screwed in a car colliding with a large suv.. These ladies were on a multi-modal and were not at fault. Another case of someone driving more vehicle than they can handle

fred53 02-20-2016 07:33 PM

The accident avoidance systems...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1188377)
If your car doesn't have it, time to think about automatic braking features-in our community these episodes are becoming more & more commonplace.

We have it both of our cars and its always paying attention, just in case we're not

are a god send, but if you know you need them then you really shouldn't be driving.

kcrazorbackfan 02-20-2016 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1188505)
Another case of someone driving

when they might not have been. It'll be interesting to see if there was any prior issues with the SUV driver, even though we'll probably never hear it.

Prayers to all.

skip0358 02-20-2016 08:34 PM

The SUV was heading East on 466A had a Medical Emergency went over the curb struck the golf cart and I believe stopped at a tree by the looks of the pictures I saw. The Car was on the road the golf cart on the multi model trail. The only thing that would have helped would have been guard rails and we know that's not going to happen. Prayers to all involved.

golfing eagles 02-20-2016 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1188535)
The SUV was heading East on 466A had a Medical Emergency went over the curb struck the golf cart and I believe stopped at a tree by the looks of the pictures I saw. The Car was on the road the golf cart on the multi model trail. The only thing that would have helped would have been guard rails and we know that's not going to happen. Prayers to all involved.

A very sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. If the cart was travelling at 20mph = 1/3 mile/minute=29 feet/second and was 10 feet long then only 1/3 of a second separated a near miss from tragedy. Makes you realize how fragile we all are.

Edjkoz 02-20-2016 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1188492)
What price do you put on your life--buy a car that will protect you & yours

Its about time people realize the death traps that golf carts are-they are & were designed to be driven engulf courses ,NOT on roads in close proximity to cars & trucks

Its your life- we don't own a golf cart & never will--our lives and physical health are more valuable than so called convenience & $$$$

Really, you're going to blame those in the golf cart? Now I've head it all

graciegirl 02-20-2016 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1188547)
A very sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. If the cart was travelling at 20mph = 1/3 mile/minute=29 feet/second and was 10 feet long then only 1/3 of a second separated a near miss from tragedy. Makes you realize how fragile we all are.



So right. And should make us realize that each day is a gift.

golf2140 02-20-2016 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1188492)
What price do you put on your life--buy a car that will protect you & yours

Its about time people realize the death traps that golf carts are-they are & were designed to be driven engulf courses ,NOT on roads in close proximity to cars & trucks

Its your life- we don't own a golf cart & never will--our lives and physical health are more valuable than so called convenience & $$$$

Life is short, have a great time while here. My golf cart will be with me until I'm gone by accident or time.

dillywho 02-20-2016 10:41 PM

Not About Carts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1188492)
What price do you put on your life--buy a car that will protect you & yours

Its about time people realize the death traps that golf carts are-they are & were designed to be driven engulf courses ,NOT on roads in close proximity to cars & trucks

Its your life- we don't own a golf cart & never will--our lives and physical health are more valuable than so called convenience & $$$$

According to the article I read, the jogger's life was saved because the car hit the golf cart instead of him. The cart then hit the jogger. Both jogger and cart were on the multi-modal path, not the street. They were not in danger from traffic until the car left the road.

dillywho 02-20-2016 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1188557)
Nice way to phrase a personal attack. You must be one of the chosen on this site that is permitted to do so. Let me put it in terms you can grasp. A large vehicle carries more momentum than a car with half the mass. Many seniors choose a means of transportation that is beyond their ability to control in the best circumstances. Do you really think the same carnage would have resulted if he had been driving a much smaller mode of transportation?

Why does everyone want to jump on the "senior" bracket bandwagon every time someone experiences a medical incident while driving? People of all ages have medical-related accidents all the time. Many do not even realize that they have any issues until then. Look at all the kids who die at school in the athletic programs due to unknown medical conditions. Just because their deaths are on the field or court doesn't mean that the same thing couldn't happen when they get behind the wheel. Maybe it does and we just don't hear about it. All we hear is that some kid had an accident and was probably texting, or speeding, or whatever.

Yes, some seniors have no business driving. Yes, some young drivers have no business driving. Yes, some in-between drivers have no business driving. As long as there are cars, accidents will happen, so let's not even go there. Accidents are a part of life; some accidents take lives. Not all accidents have to do with transportation, but some are still deadly. All the regulations/precautions in the world cannot prevent all manner of accident. All we can do is our best.

Polar Bear 02-20-2016 11:22 PM

Thanks dillywho. You need to post more often.

mikemalloy 02-20-2016 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1188578)
Why does everyone want to jump on the "senior" bracket bandwagon every time someone experiences a medical incident while driving? People of all ages have medical-related accidents all the time. Many do not even realize that they have any issues until then. Look at all the kids who die at school in the athletic programs due to unknown medical conditions. Just because their deaths are on the field or court doesn't mean that the same thing couldn't happen when they get behind the wheel. Maybe it does and we just don't hear about it. All we hear is that some kid had an accident and was probably texting, or speeding, or whatever.

Yes, some seniors have no business driving. Yes, some young drivers have no business driving. Yes, some in-between drivers have no business driving. As long as there are cars, accidents will happen, so let's not even go there. Accidents are a part of life; some accidents take lives. Not all accidents have to do with transportation, but some are still deadly. All the regulations/precautions in the world cannot prevent all manner of accident. All we can do is our best.

I think that the poster your are responding to owns a small vehicle and thinks his choice of cars is superior to those of us who don't choose to drive clown cars. It's similar to the poster who doesn't own a golf cart and thinks his choice is a smarter choice to those that do own golf cars. The only ones we haven't heard from are those that never leave their homes who want to point out that if the jogger hadn't been outside his home he never would have been hurt.

Polar Bear 02-20-2016 11:44 PM

I think all that dillywho is saying is that accidents happen, regardless of age group, location, whatever. Couldn't agree more.

DonH57 02-21-2016 12:12 AM

This type of accident could have occurred between any two or combination of modes of travel. A car driven by a driver experiencing a medical problem could have easily stuck a group of cyclists, pedestrians, or any thing else. Treasure each day you have

asianthree 02-21-2016 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1188557)
. Do you really think the same carnage would have resulted if he had been driving a much smaller mode of transportation?

Yes

outlaw 02-21-2016 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1188615)
Yes

Even a smart car has doors, seat belts, and air bags. Looking at the overturned golf cart in the picture, I think people in virtually any car with doors would have done better than these people in the golf cart.

perrjojo 02-21-2016 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1188578)
Why does everyone want to jump on the "senior" bracket bandwagon every time someone experiences a medical incident while driving? People of all ages have medical-related accidents all the time. Many do not even realize that they have any issues until then. Look at all the kids who die at school in the athletic programs due to unknown medical conditions. Just because their deaths are on the field or court doesn't mean that the same thing couldn't happen when they get behind the wheel. Maybe it does and we just don't hear about it. All we hear is that some kid had an accident and was probably texting, or speeding, or whatever.

Yes, some seniors have no business driving. Yes, some young drivers have no business driving. Yes, some in-between drivers have no business driving. As long as there are cars, accidents will happen, so let's not even go there. Accidents are a part of life; some accidents take lives. Not all accidents have to do with transportation, but some are still deadly. All the regulations/precautions in the world cannot prevent all manner of accident. All we can do is our best.

I agree. This was an accident. As I recall a few days earlier a young woman jumped the curb and knocked down a sign post on 466, blocking traffic for some time. She had turned to check on her baby in the back seat. Fortunately no one was hurt but it could have easily turned out different. As another poster said it was just a case of being at the wrong place at the wrong time..

justjim 02-21-2016 08:22 AM

Accidents happen period. Something similar can happen to anyone of us reading this Thread. Prayers and condolences to all involved in this incident.

DonH57 02-21-2016 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golf2140 (Post 1188563)
Life is short, have a great time while here. My golf cart will be with me until I'm gone by accident or time.

We use the golf cart as much as possible. Had the villages not been a golf cart community, we would not be living here. I could not imagine having to jump in the car to go to all the activities in the villages like golf, swim, pickleball, grocery shopping, rec center events.

golfing eagles 02-21-2016 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1188636)
Even a smart car has doors, seat belts, and air bags. Looking at the overturned golf cart in the picture, I think people in virtually any car with doors would have done better than these people in the golf cart.

Yes, but that would mean they were driving a "smart" car on the MMP---which would indicate a "dumb" driver.

Taltarzac725 02-21-2016 08:45 AM

Might be a useful site.

http://wiki.legalexaminer.com/help-c...accidents.aspx

This too--

Car Accidents Caused by a Medical Emergency | Nolo.com

jpvillager 02-21-2016 09:25 AM

Do not know if it would have made a difference but I feel seat belts are the safer way to go in the golf cart.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-21-2016 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1188492)
What price do you put on your life--buy a car that will protect you & yours

Its about time people realize the death traps that golf carts are-they are & were designed to be driven engulf courses ,NOT on roads in close proximity to cars & trucks

Its your life- we don't own a golf cart & never will--our lives and physical health are more valuable than so called convenience & $$$$

Back up north, I knew two brothers that owned a very successful business. They were driving home on a highway when a small airplane crash landed on their car. Maybe we should stop driving cars and ban airplanes.

Incidentally, a man who was running along this same path was also struck and injured. Maybe we should never leave our houses.

Did you hear about the eighteen wheel tractor trailer that crashed into a house in California killing the couple who were asleep in their bedroom? Maybe we just need to ban all sorts of motorized transportation.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-21-2016 09:45 AM

Quote:

Why does everyone want to jump on the "senior" bracket bandwagon every time someone experiences a medical incident while driving? People of all ages have medical-related accidents all the time.
True, but I would be willing to wager that more of these medical related accidents involve seniors than any other age group.

The reality is that as we get older, the more likely we are to have a medical episode. We are also more likely to die.

golfing eagles 02-21-2016 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1188705)
Back up north, I knew two brothers that owned a very successful business. They were driving home on a highway when a small airplane crash landed on their car. Maybe we should stop driving cars and ban airplanes.

Incidentally, a man who was running along this same path was also struck and injured. Maybe we should never leave our houses.

Did you hear about the eighteen wheel tractor trailer that crashed into a house in California killing the couple who were asleep in their bedroom? Maybe we just need to ban all sorts of motorized transportation.

Lots of people on this and other traffic related threads seem to be looking for a risk free world. But there are 6.4 million traffic accidents with 33,000 deaths each year in the US.

I am still amazed at the odds of an accident like this happening, I don't even have and idea of how to calculate it or how to get some data. We would need to know the accident rate for cars passing a certain point, how many were caused by a medical event, how many jumped the curb, how many had a parallel MMP just for starters. Then add the very limited time window involved and I'll guess you have a better chance of winning the lottery.

The DS reported one fatality from this accident, condolences to the family and wishes for a speedy recovery to the other victims.

dbussone 02-21-2016 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1188709)
True, but I would be willing to wager that more of these medical related accidents involve seniors than any other age group.



The reality is that as we get older, the more likely we are to have a medical episode. We are also more likely to die.


It is a 100% certainty that we will die. ;)

golfing eagles 02-21-2016 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1188709)
True, but I would be willing to wager that more of these medical related accidents involve seniors than any other age group.

The reality is that as we get older, the more likely we are to have a medical episode. We are also more likely to die.

Interestingly, medical issues do not make the top 25 causes of accidents or even get honorable mention, and neither does advancing age:


1. Distracted Driving

The number one cause of car accidents is not a criminal that drove drunk, sped or ran a red light. Distracted drivers are the top cause of car accidents in the U.S. today. A distracted driver is a motorist that diverts his or her attention from the road, usually to talk on a cell phone, send a text message or eat food.

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2. Speeding

You’ve seen them on the highway. Many drivers ignore the speed limit and drive 10, 20 and sometimes 30 mph over the limit. Speed kills, and traveling above the speed limit is an easy way to cause a car accident. The faster you drive, the slower your reaction time will be if you need to prevent an auto accident.

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3. Drunk Driving

When you drink, you lose the ability to focus and function properly and its very dangerous when operating a vehicle. Driving under the influence of alcohol causes car accidents every day, even when they are one the top causes that can be avoided. Always use a designated driver if you go out and drink.

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4. Reckless Driving

If you don’t drive carefully, and you may end up in a needless car accident. That’s what often happens to reckless drivers who speed, change lanes too quickly or tailgate before causing a car accident. Reckless drivers are often impatient in traffic so be sure to take extra care around aggressive drivers.

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5. Rain

If the weather gets bad so do the roads. Car accidents happen very often in the rain because water creates slick and dangerous surfaces for cars, trucks, and motorcycles and often causes automobiles to spin out of control or skid while braking. To avoid a car accident, drive extra careful when it rains.

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6. Running Red Lights

When you’re driving your car, red means stop and not doing so usually leads to car accidents. Drivers that run red lights, run the risk of causing wrongful death because they often cause side-impact collisions at high speeds. To avoid a car accident, look both ways for oncoming cars as you approach a green light.



7. Running Stop Signs

Stop signs should never be ignored, but when they are, serious car accidents are often the result. Each year, thousands of car accidents occur because one driver ran a stop sign. Many rollover accidents and side-impact car accidents result from drivers that run stop signs. You should always look both ways when proceeding through a stop sign.



8. Teenage Drivers

Youth is wasted on the young, but careful driving is never wasted on young drivers. Unfortunately, teenagers aren’t often known for their carefulness. When teen drivers hit the roads they don’t always know what to do and that lack of experience ends up causing car accidents.

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9. Night Driving

Driving in the daylight can be hazardous, but driving at night nearly doubles the risk of a car accident occurring. When you can’t see what’s up ahead you don’t know what to anticipate as you drive towards it. As the sun goes down, your awareness of the road and cars around you must go up.

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10. Design Defects

No product is ever made perfectly, and cars are no different. Automobiles have hundreds of parts, and any of those defective parts can cause a serious car accident. Many automakers have had problems with design defects in the past, including Ford Explorer rollover accidents and Toyota’s unintended acceleration crashes.

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11. Unsafe Lane Changes

There will always come a time where you need to get over to another lane (i.e. exit from a freeway, get in the correct lane to make a turn, etc.). When drivers don’t make safe lane changes properly, it often leads to a car accident. To prevent a needless car accident, use your turn signal, check your blind spots and always proceed carefully into the next lane.

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12. Wrong-Way Driving

Everyone has lapses in judgment, but when behind the wheel of a car, those clouded instincts can be deadly. You can turn down a street thinking it is a normal right turn, when in actuality, it is a one-way street in the opposite direction. When you go the wrong way, everyone is in danger because as you head towards a car accident.

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13. Improper Turns

The reason that we have stop lights, turn signals, and lanes designated for moving either right or left as opposed to straight is because when drivers ignore the rules of the road, car accidents are often the result. To prevent a car accident, always look for signs and obey the proper right-of-way before you make a turn.

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14. Tailgating

Many drivers are impatient and reckless, driving so close to another car that they cannot react in time if the car in front of them brakes suddenly. Many fatal car accidents have occurred when a motorist dangerously tailgated another driver at high speeds. You can prevent these car accidents by giving the car in front of you a one-car-length buffer for every 10 mph you drive.

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15. Driving Under the Influence of Drugs

It’s not only alcohol that is dangerous when mixed with drivers on the road. Drugs, both legal and illegal, can impair your ability to fully function as a driver. If your mind isn’t clear and you don’t have complete control over your body, getting behind the wheel can lead to serious car accidents.

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16. Ice

You’re driving down the road, it’s dark out and you want to get home for the warm fire. Next thing you know, you’re car is spinning dangerously out of control because you hit black ice. While San Diego hardly ever has ice, ice is a major cause of car accidents for cities with cold weather climates.

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17. Snow

Snow’s dangerous mixture of ice and water is a dangerous recipe for car accidents each winter storm. Like ice, snow is not something you usually encounter when driving in San Diego. Cities with cold winters know all-too-well just how dangerous snow can be for commuters.

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18. Road Rage

Everyone has been angry at another driver for one reason or another, but some drivers let their rage overcome them. By tailgating another driver in anger or speeding past another driver only to pull in front of them and brake, these road “ragers” cause many needless car accidents each year.

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19. Potholes

Motorists in San Diego are well aware of the dangers posed by potholes in the street. Drivers run the risk of losing control of their car or blowing out a tire when they drive over these potholes. If you see a pothole in your car’s path, you can avoid a car accident by making sure that your tires do not drive over it.

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20. Drowsy Driving

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21. Tire Blowouts

Most highways are littered with the scattered remains of a tire blowout. Tire blowouts can cause you to lose control of your vehicle, and they are especially dangerous for bigger automobiles like semi-trucks. When encountering a tire blowout, try to maintain control of your vehicle and pull over safely and you will likely avoid a serious car accident.

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22. Fog

Fog isn’t the most common weather occurrence, and that’s good news for car accidents statistics. Driving is a skill that requires the ability to see, but fog makes it extremely difficult to see sometimes more than a car length in front of you. Avoid car accidents by using your head lights — and never your high beams — when driving in the fog.

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23. Deadly Curves

Some people call them dead man’s curves, but everyone should be careful when approaching a curve. Many motorists have lost control of their cars along a dangerous curve and lost their lives in a car accident. So when you approach these signs, take head of the posted speed limit and drive cautiously to avoid a car accident.

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24. Animal Crossings

While drivers are required to know the rules of the roadway, wild animals do not take driver’s education. Wild animals will wade out into the street, and it’s up to you to make sure that you don’t get into a car accident with them. Take caution when you see an animal crossing sign and use your high beams when traveling in rural, woody areas.

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25. Street Racing

Glorified by the Fast and the Furious movie franchise, street racing is an underground culture of fast cars and deadly car accidents. With turbo engines and nitrous oxide boosters, cars often reach very high speeds during a street race, making any resulting car accident much more dangerous and unlikely to yield any survivors.

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Taltarzac725 02-21-2016 09:55 AM

Looks like the driver of the SUV who had a medical emergency is 58 and lives in Fruitland Park.


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