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Cassie325 11-11-2008 04:48 PM

Coyote's in TV's area?
 
Last night around 7:30 we were out in the driveway. Suddenly we heard howling and yelping....it was extremely loud...coming from a preserve area or the area where they keep the horses near the Polo Field.

Has anyone else experienced this or have you heard about issues with coyotes or other such animals in the area?

MSNPA 11-11-2008 05:14 PM

When I first moved here, summer '07, a coyote was walking down my street. A few months ago when I was walking early in the morning I also spotted a coyote by a pond. I think the poor things are looking for food. All their land and access to food is gone.

Bogie Shooter 11-11-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MSNPA (Post 172977)
When I first moved here, summer '07, a coyote was walking down my street. A few months ago when I was walking early in the morning I also spotted a coyote by a pond. I think the poor things are looking for food. All their land and access to food is gone.

Others have said they saw coyote's in TV. Not sure I agree with all their land and food is gone. Drive 3-5 miles west of TV and there is a lot of open land and probably small game as well.
Watch for the gator's!

suebanj 11-11-2008 05:47 PM

I live on Stirrup Cup of Glenview GC and a few months ago I was out on the lanai at night and heard what I thought were dogs howling but didn't quite sound right. Well, the next morning I was talking to an ambassador on the golf course and was told that a cayote was spotted on it in the early morning hours!! Who would of thought!!

Barefoot 11-11-2008 05:54 PM

A black panther was spotted on the nature preserve south of San Marino Drive.

I feel sorry for the wild animals. We're taking away their land and their options.

Irish Rover 11-11-2008 06:18 PM

I live in Missouri and I can't tell you how many of our friends' cats and dogs have been lost to coyotes. This happens mostly in back yards with electrical fences where the dog can't get out but the coyote can get in. I wouldn't worry about them finding food or a habitat because they adapt to urban life very quickly. Good Luck

nONIE 11-11-2008 06:23 PM

Please dont let your small dogs out unsupervised. I know the coyotes have to eat too but our small dogs would be a perfect meal for them.:icon_hungry:

tkret 11-11-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nONIE (Post 172997)
Please dont let your small dogs out unsupervised. I know the coyotes have to eat too but our small dogs would be a perfect meal for them.:icon_hungry:

Absolutely correct on this one nONIE. They will easily snatch a small dog even when the owner is walking them on a leash. I just moved from Arizona and this was a constant situation. I came across a coyote one evening in AZ while I was walking my chow-shepherd and, of course, they don't wish to tangle with a larger dog. So, to my amazement the coyote jumped a 6 foot wall WITHOUT EVEN A RUNNING START. They are incredible athletes, but you are right that they will prey on small dogs quickly and care not that a human is alongside.

Cassie325 11-11-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tkret (Post 173003)
Absolutely correct on this one nONIE. They will easily snatch a small dog even when the owner is walking them on a leash. I just moved from Arizona and this was a constant situation. I came across a coyote one evening in AZ while I was walking my chow-shepherd and, of course, they don't wish to tangle with a larger dog. So, to my amazement the coyote jumped a 6 foot wall WITHOUT EVEN A RUNNING START. They are incredible athletes, but you are right that they will prey on small dogs quickly and care not that a human is alongside.

Which brings me to my NEXT question....do you think they can jump the walls of the CY Villa's??

Fourpar 11-11-2008 07:45 PM

Hmmmmm, small dogs & cats = a mighty fine coyote meal :icon_hungry: Don't let your little critters run free, keep them on a leash!

tkret 11-11-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassie325 (Post 173007)
Which brings me to my NEXT question....do you think they can jump the walls of the CY Villa's??

Cassie325 ... If the walls are 6 feet high, I would say yes to that question. Really, I have seen them jump onto the top of wall that is only 5 or 6 INCHES wide and then walk that wall looking for prey.

Check out this link which was given to the residents of the community in which I had lived in AZ. You will note that it says "Coyotes can easily leap an 8 foot fence or wall. They have been spotted climbing over a 14 foot cyclone fence."

http://www.desertusa.com/june96/du_cycot.html

As I noted, they are incredible athletes and always on the prowl. Some people foolishly leave out food for wildlife and coyotes quickly learn to remain in that area for the free handout. Someday I must tell you how my Murphy saved my neighbor's Yorkshire Terrier from being the blue plate special.

Barefoot 11-14-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tkret (Post 173022)
If the walls are 6 feet high, I would say yes to that question. .

Actually, we have a Villa that backs on a golf course. The back wall is only three feet high. Like a picket fence.

This thread really gives me pause to think. I didn't want to back on water because I worried about gators. Now, coyotes? I wonder if they're in the more isolated areas of TV, or if they're everywhere.

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2008 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 173467)
Actually, we have a Villa that backs on a golf course. The back wall is only three feet high. Like a picket fence.

This thread really gives me pause to think. I didn't want to back on water because I worried about gators. Now, coyotes? I wonder if they're in the more isolated areas of TV, or if they're everywhere.

Has anyone told you about the snakes?
Don't worry about the few animals we have in the villages....leave them alone DO NOT FEED and they will leave you alone.

Taltarzac 11-14-2008 05:24 PM

I have not see any coyotes in Lynnhaven.
 
In the 3.5 years we have lived in Lynnhaven, I have not seen any coyotes in Lynnhaven even though I have seen a dead one on CR466a and heard of them harassing dogs in the field where dogs sometimes meet up near CR42.

It probably depends on the food supply where you might find coyotes in TV.

islandgal 11-14-2008 05:41 PM

A friend in Naples, Fl was telling me this morning that there is an alert in parts of Naples about the presence of coyotes,
warning residents particularly not walk after dark.

I would hope The Sun would alert us if necessary.

Barefoot 11-14-2008 07:15 PM

I'm thinking that coyotes probably tend to be in the preserve areas and the "less travelled" golf courses.

I know coyotes need to nourish themselves, but hopefully there are enough geckos and rabbits so they don't need to hunt in more populated areas.

Peachie 11-14-2008 07:39 PM

Bare, IMHO, coyotes are hard to predict when they are hungry. I think you are right and normally they would stay away from the higher traffic areas. Our yard in our last home in the city butted up to a very deep ravine. We would hear the coyotes eerie howling down below in the summer evenings when sirens would blow. We occasionally would see one go through our yard and out in the street in the middle of the day as they hunted for food. One of these daytime scavengers had obviously delivered a litter very recently and was searching for food. They seemed to have been very much emboldened by all the encroachment of their normal hunting territories.

jtdraig 11-17-2008 08:46 AM

We lived in the high hills above Tucson for 8 years...when we first moved there in 1978, my Company would pay for the transportation of pets (we were building a new manufacturing and development facility)..I was in charge of Employee Expense Accounting..we would pay from $400 to $1200 to move a pet. People would move in and let their pets out, never to be seen again.
The coyotes would get them! I figure that we spent thousands of dollars delivering dinner to the coyotes in Tucson's high desert. They are here in the Villages..when you hear yipping at night, it means they have made a kill.
Keep your pets close but don't fear coyotes unnecessarily. They are EXCELLENT "atheletes"!

Barefoot 11-17-2008 10:17 AM

I lived on a horse farm surrounded by a national forest for most of the past 20 years. I could hear the coyotes every night, and I've seen many coyotes during the day. Many have lost their fear of humans. The local Vet was always warning against leaving a cat or small dog unattended in the yard; even during daylight hours.

We bought a Courtyard Villa on a golf course so our dogs would have a small fenced yard. We made sure we are no where near water as I didn't want any risk of gators. We never thought about coyotes. Our back fence is just three feet high.

I notice all the feral cats seems to have disappeared off the golf course since last winter. We don't have any nature preserves nearby. But nevertheless, I'm getting a bit nervous.

Taltarzac 11-17-2008 10:29 AM

Researched this issue a little and wonder what kind of law there is in FL?
 
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...717954,00.html

I found this article about coyotes killing pets in CO and wondered what kind of legal problems we would have in the Villages with solving this problem?

tkret 11-17-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac (Post 173756)
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...717954,00.html

I found this article about coyotes killing pets in CO and wondered what kind of legal problems we would have in the Villages with solving this problem?

Hello Taltarzac,

In the active-adult community in Arizona where I once lived more residents than not wanted the Arizona Game and Fish Department to "do something" about the coyotes in and around the development. It turned out to be a [B]BIG [/B]MISTAKE!. After capturing (or maiming and then destroying) the animals and relocating the ones that survived, the community was overrun, and I mean really really overrun, with rabbits. They were everywhere and ate every flower garden in sight. Birds, geese, and other critters made the golf courses their nature latrines.
If people would not place food out and also keep watch over their small dogs and cats, the coyotes move on and a small number remain to keep the eco in balance.

chuckinca 11-17-2008 11:53 AM

A few years ago we were visiting a nephew in Costa Mesa, CA. He and his wife wanted to get a kitten and went to the local SPCA. When they selected the kitten and were signing and paying for it the clerk asked if it was to be an indoor cat and my nephew said it would be indoor and outdoor in his yard that had an 8 foot high block wall around it. The clerk said that coyote's can jump 12 foot high walls and wouldn't let them have the kitten until they agreed to make it strictly an indoor cat.

Taltarzac 11-17-2008 01:11 PM

I doubt if the coyote population in Central FL compares with that in Tucson & Phoenix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkret (Post 173762)
Hello Taltarzac,

In the active-adult community in Arizona where I once lived more residents than not wanted the Arizona Game and Fish Department to "do something" about the coyotes in and around the development. It turned out to be a [B]BIG [/B]MISTAKE!. After capturing (or maiming and then destroying) the animals and relocating the ones that survived, the community was overrun, and I mean really really overrun, with rabbits. They were everywhere and ate every flower garden in sight. Birds, geese, and other critters made the golf courses their nature latrines.
If people would not place food out and also keep watch over their small dogs and cats, the coyotes move on and a small number remain to keep the eco in balance.

Some information about coyotes. http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PDF/Co...et_03_hsus.pdf

I wonder what kind of statistics there are on coyotes in FL vs. those in AZ?

Bogie Shooter 11-17-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac (Post 173756)
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...717954,00.html

I found this article about coyotes killing pets in CO and wondered what kind of legal problems we would have in the Villages with solving this problem?

What Problem????
The next thing will be, grab your guns we are going coyote hunting. This thread is giving people concern that is not warranted.
One person heard a coyote another saw a dead one on the highway......and a lot of people related stories from all over the country. This was interesting to hear about but had nothing to do with TV.

chuckinca 11-17-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 173794)
What Problem????
The next thing will be, grab your guns we are going coyote hunting. This thread is giving people concern that is not warranted.
One person heard a coyote another saw a dead one on the highway......and a lot of people related stories from all over the country. This was interesting to hear about but had nothing to do with TV.



And this from a guy with the last name of SHOOTER!

LOL



.

Bogie Shooter 11-17-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 173803)
And this from a guy with the last name of SHOOTER!

LOL




.

And your point being?

dgammon6 11-17-2008 10:02 PM

Don't forget about Hawks, they can swoop down take your small dog and fly off with it. I've seen them pick up rabbits many times.

cologal 11-17-2008 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dgammon6 (Post 173856)
Don't forget about Hawks, they can swoop down take your small dog and fly off with it. I've seen them pick up rabbits many times.


I could have sworn I heard some howls Friday night... I am from Colorado and actually saw coyote late one night. My flight from Denver to CSprings was cancelled and they sent me in a taxi. I was going to my car in the parking lot when a coyote appeared...I saw him be he didn't see me. He just kept going and I stayed still for a time. Then I tip-toed to my car trying not to make any noise.

No more taxi's to the airport at 2 am...now they drop me at home and I get the car the next morning.

Barefoot 11-18-2008 07:57 PM

IMHO, backing on a nature preserve in TV looks less and less appealing. For those residents with small dogs.


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