2/25/2016 Republican Debate
 

I record the debates than view at my leisure. It also provides me the option of fast forwarding when needed.

And last night, more than once I did fast forward.
Each time the Rubio, Trump, Cruz shouting and interuption bouts began.

In my opinion all three candidates came across as very unprofessional and certainly not presidential. They remineded me of mid school kids in an argument and the best tool at their disposal was...VOLUME!

Trump came across last night as not very well prepared. Or he is showing the effect of melting down a little when under constant pummeling.
His cliches of believe me I know....or I have done that ......or I hired thousands....came off cheap as non factual anecdotes that at this stage of the campaign are wearing thin.

My expectation is that if nominated and then elected he is a smart enough manager to hire good people to do the work of the POTUS. Unlike Obama who has nothing but academics and intellectualizers.

And we should all keep in mind even the strongest outsider, which would be Trump, will find out soon enough that saying is one thing and doing perhaps a bit more difficult.......unless or until he does crack the current crony system.
Early on he would have an advantage as he does not know....does not need to know...how the crony system of governing works/or not. Therefore he will ask why and why not. And if he maintains his current aggressive persona as POTUS will in fact get more done than the typical crony, politics as usual puppets like Clinton and Rubio.

We shall see. I think it is time for the republicans to stop attacking each other and start demonstrating more information about how they will implement some of the promises being made.

I think Carson needs to pack it up.
Rubio will lose FL.
Kasisich will lose Ohio.
Cruz may lose TX.

After which each will have to reassess their position and ability to win against Trump.

very good analysis. Trump/Carson is my dream ticket.

Since it is rare that a nominee chooses his competition as his VP, it is useless to speculate about a team. If I was to dream of a team, I would suggest Rubio/Kasich.

Rubio has always been professional and knowledgeable in the debates. This boxing exhibition is due in large because of the audience wish for blood. It is NOT most professional candidates that wish to fight. They usually wish to debate, but since Trump insists of taking it to the gutter with his verbiage, the others have had to dive into the gutter to accost him at his level. And ONLY because the voters want it. Voters are more interested in entertainment than who is the best for our country. Trump has absolutely no clue to running the country. He can't just throw money around to get his influence. He can't bankrupt and start over again like he is used to doing. This is NOT a business like he is used to. Everyone likes him because he is outspoken. Glen Beck was popular for a while too. It's a fad, that ultimately peters out. Trump will turn into an embarrassment due to his ego and boorish attitude. He believes that everyone loves him when in reality they fear him.

Rubio showed how intelligent he is. He is a gentleman and it was not in his nature to enter the gutter to fight, but he finally did when he realized that Trump will ruin our country near as much as Obama has.

It's a shame that Romney hasn't entered the fray, because this country is ready for him now. He has the best of both worlds, business and politics. Too bad.

Rubio solidified my vote last night. I was starting to worry, but he showed how he can bob and weave, as well as punch and jab when necessary.

There may be too many uninformed voters in Florida, that will vote for the entertainer. Rubio may lose Florida, but not because of my vote. Many folks are angry after Obama, but they need to think about how it has come to this. It's because voters like them on the other side, elected an entertainer rather than a decent politician.

Trump believes that we won't need to go to war again if we have a big wall keeping us safe. Good luck with that idea. I'll go for the wall to keep illegals away but the rest of the world still needs an American leader, not an isolationist.

Good post and for the record.....this morning...

1. It has been fact checked and shown that it is true that Trump hires illegal immigrants, so he lied about that

2. IRS verified this morning that there is no problem with issuing tax returns while being audited, so he lied about that

Add that to that embarrasing alternative he "offered" to Obamacare last night, the fact that he WILL NOT EVERY STAND A CHANCE of winning a general election (new hispanic voters, 80% would never vote for him and Repubs need at least 40% of hispanic vote to come close) why would anyone vote for this man.

Why did anyone vote for Obama. Because he held out the promises of hope and change. None of which has even been discussed anymore.

They were sucked into thinking that a black man, more like the everyday person. Totally and completely wrong.

Transparency, more open and honest insight to what is going on. Xero. The most divisive, non transparent, more secretive than any more recent presidents.

Seven plus years of non delivering accompanied by deterioration of race relations; deterioration of military capability; deterioration of how we stand on the world stage; cowardly coddling of the enemy...islamic terrorism; just another all for him and to hell with America.

These are some of the reasons, like Trump or not; real or not; he does resonate with the mood of the American people who are sick and tired of politics and ESPECIALLY Obama politics.

Generally, I agree with you, BUT......you have to consider the higher Republican voter turn out versus the lower Democrat turnout. You also have to take into consideration the Independent voter, which appears to be leaning AWAY from the two socialist choices available on the Dem side. It appears that it won't really matter which GOP candidate gets the nomination, they will win. Of course, Trump turns off a lot of Republican voters also (about 65%) so he will probably have less chance than say, Rubio or Kasich or maybe even Cruz. But, if the Republican voters give him the nomination, we will have to rally around him to make sure he beats Hillary. In my opinion, the only way Trump wins the nomination is because of the candidates that refuse to quit, making it a basically three way split with him having the majority of the delegates. I believe that if it was just Trump and Rubio or another, Trump would lose the nomination.

What you say about people being sick and tired is true, but only enough to give him about 35-40% of their vote. The rest are also fed up, but reasonable enough to figure that he is not the one to be trusted to back up what he says. Most also want someone that can get along with others, to mend the divide, and have a strong sense of national security.

It is obvious from watching the news and the reporting by a couple of different networks they are revelling in the circus atmosphere of last nights amateur pi$$ing contest.

And of course while they are making the most of the so called future leadership of the USA circus maximus it affords them the luxury of not putting the heat on current events in the democratic race. And the latest Clinton controversy of WSJ tapes release.

I must say that Trump's disposition to make fun of, demean almost everybody and eveyone that disagrees with him, along with continual calling them names is too, too much like what we see and hear from democrats. And on this forum.

I was willing to give Trump opportunity to at some point rise above the petty pranks and play acting and show a more serious side of his talents. To show that along with his bold and brash side there is a serious, presidential worthiness in his character.

I have not seen this from him to date. If this is all we get from him he would not be my choice for nomination. If he wins the nomination of course I will vote for him and hope for the best.

On Trumps worst day or days he is head and shoulders above Obama and most members of the current congress.

I'm going with trump. Sick of all politicians Hillary should be in prison, Bernie socialist , rubio establishment , carson too quiet.

Also I love the fact the wall got higher and yes Mexico can pay for it.

Go with Trump, assures with no doubt you get Hillary !!!!

Simply look at the voting pool and it is simple math. Trump in the race assures a major turn out of more blacks than voted in 2008 and then add the new hispanic voters and Clinton does not even need to do anything but insure turnout.

I understand frustration....great talk.....but Trump will leave the Republican party and the entire conservative movement in total shambles and then off he goes to his tower to look down and laugh at you.

His comedy routine is just that....a routine. Be very careful of what you wish for.

hiring illegals
 

not sure where you got your facts checked but what i read was that there was a million dollar suit which Trump WON because he had hired a contractor who in turn hired illegal polish immigrants...when the contractor failed to pay them, they tried to collect from Trump, who was not their employer...keep in mind also that this was before the current employer verification laws were in force (or should i say enacted...they haven't really been in force have they?)

So the blacks ace it for Clinton?
Sorry can't buy that.

Remember blacks are ONLY 19% of the total population.

And if they follow the same pattern as the general electorate a little less than half will vote. And since many have not been rescued as promised by Obama, the dems will lose some to that. And many blacks are not buying the same BS Obama was spewing. And many blacks do not like her or want to vote for a criminal awaiting prosecution.

So? NO, she does not have a lock on blacks. The party would like to think the blacks and everybody else are buying the party BS.

I also think the non black voters will be out in force to make sure she, the felonious, blood on her hands liar does not get elected.

That's also my dream ticket - and I'm a Democrat

Running against that ticket, Mrs Clinton will win 400+ electoral votes.

She will win an electoral landslide larger than Obama's landslide victories over Etchy and McCain

I wonder how she will win a landslide when the democrats are having such a hard time with record low voter turnout. No one is interested in voting for a criminal or a socialist pervert. On the other hand, there has been a high record turnout for the GOP primaries. Of course, you may be right if Trump gets the nomination. The GOP may also end up with a low voter turnout, because right now, Trump is only pulling about a third of the votes. Either way, I doubt anyone will see a "landslide."

I hope so. But Trump sure has this live long Democrat very worried. I do vote for Republicans once in a while for President but the Donald looks like a Democrat in many ways with his idea of a massive Federal government build-up to enforce his various promises of mass deportation, a huge wall, and a vast military industrial complex build-up. So much for the limited government of Ronald Reagan. We need more checks-and-balances on the Federal Government and not far less. With his nationalism, jingoism, militarism and hate directed at specific groups the Trump looks like some of the most hated leaders in world history. They were beloved by some at that time.

A few groups that are supporting in public Donald Trump....
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Klux Klux Klan

Daily Stormer a neo nazi web site

National Policy Institute who promotes white european identity

American Renaissance a Virgina based white nationalist magazine

League of the South an Alabama based white supremicist secessional group

Hills League of the South

Hunter Wallace popular white supremicist site
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These groups are normally totally silent during national elections.

Sure, there will be no push back from the black community, esepecially when they hear Trumps comments from the past.

And of course they will just stay home and not vote or maybe the Clinton and Democratic machine will not remind them of all of this and more

Heck, in the Democratic primary they are throwing around who is more black and who is more white.

Turnout for blacks will be massive if Trump is nominated

The entire presidential primary for both parties is clearly a reflection of how unsophisticated the American public is. Unsophisticated and educated are not exclusive of each other as is clearly displayed in this forum. I still ask is this really the best America has to offer?

And the "former" Democrat party has only a socialist and a communist running. And they can't even entice voter turn out with anything other than FREE college, which everyone knows is something they can promise but won't happen. Not in my lifetime. No one is going to allow a tax increase that big, in order to pay for free college. Even Sanders says that the college of today is basically just equivalent to a high school education that we had. Instead of pushing free college, they should be pushing for public education reform so that high school kids can get a better education.

You keep on spouting this Obama is responsible for everything that has gone wrong in the last seven years. The Republicans hands are clean. That is so far reality that it is laughable. This attitude is why Trump is succeeding. In any of his rants not speeches has he ever offer details that actually make sense.

You say Obama didn't work with Republicans. Read this.
Obama's First Term | Republicans for Obama

You tell me how any open minded Republican isn't embarrassed by the shouting match that went in at the debate, and continued the next day. The three main candidates acted like 10 year old at a playground during recess.

Someone said that Obama's programs aren't going to continue with the next president. If Trump continuing with this act, Hillary will beat him, and Obama's programs will go into high gear. The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. The Republican politics of opposing everything Obama put forward is why we are where we are today.

Well, in the time of primaries you rave on about the Democrats when my party and I only assume yours, is under attack and pretty darn near a total collapse.

I do not get involved with conspiracy theories, but saying Trump is a Democratic operative to hand the election over to them makes sense.

Right now, worry about this crude, cheating, lying man from taking over the party. I am embarrassed and so should you be.

I am more anti left wing than you, but I assure you, the threat WITHIN the party is the worst thing ever. You should worry on that front.

There is no reason for all this mean spirited posting.

By this time, the Republicans have all come to the same conclusion as the Democrats: HILLARY (and the USA) wins!

Just settle back in your great Villages setting, play some golf, smile, relax with some entertainment at the squares, have a Yeungling or two, and know you will be happy with Hillary at the helm.

:BigApplause:

That's good joke. Sad and pathetic to think that anyone would settle for a common criminal, that is so disloyal to her people that she would allow them to die without even trying to rescue them. A criminal that has put national security in jeopardy by allowing non-cleared personnel access to highly classified information. A person that cheats on her taxes. Why settle for her when there are others available? It is a shame that anyone would be stupid enough, and so Anti-American as to want to install that traitor into the most power position in the world.

If you think that with Hillary in the White House, that it won't effect you, then you are not very smart or informed. The ramifications will echo all the way into our lifestyle. Goodbye middle class, if she is elected. But the Democrat party was too lazy and stupid to support a decent candidate. They had to pick a criminal and a commie.

Dumb

You may be as smug and smarta$$ as you want to be.

While you feel enjoyment in the fiasco we call public service, I find it disgusting.

And recall.....if Clinton vs Trump. The "ladies" of Clinton have their own super pac, their own website and are waiting to attack until general election. Think Trump might help them out just a bit ?

Throw in the Clinton machine going after the clown and you have quite a general election.

I have a sneaky feeling, they are both so dirty, we may have a complete unknown at the helm for some reason and I cannot back that up.

I know both are dirty...and both will fight dirty...which sickens me to the nth degree,

Where have our morals gone when two people that are so dispicable can run for President, and where have we gone when people can come on here and defend either on of them.

We are talking about two people with NO character of any kind.

Hillary wins! :MOJE_whot: The USA wins! :MOJE_whot:

:boom:

:swear: :censored:!

This post is a perfect example why the repub party is no more, a person who lies and makes things up, You probably consider yourself a christian.

You forgot to include that Hillary is an avowed Lesbian and personally got Chelsea pregnant with a turkey baster and frozen sperm of Bill Ayers.

I like NPR's "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me"'s solution: Obama appoint Trump to fill Justice Scalia's seat; Repubs will be happy 'cause they can concentrate on having a real Repub run.

Did they legalize wacky weed in Florida?