Trump's Southern Wall.
 

CAN THEY DO THAT? Great wall of Trump faces great hurdles - US News

Looks extremely unlikely that he will be able to keep this promise.

Making an argument based on opposition and cost does not make a case.

The cost of the wall (forget the red herring of who pays for it) will be more than off set by the expenses paid and mantaining of the hoards of illegals. The cost to communities ill prepared to take in those hoards kids in schools. The cost of health care for the hoards.

If you had a hole in the boat in water filled with prhannia one would not spend much time jabbering about how much it costs to repair it. And the opposition would be just simply thrown overboard.

There is no reason what so ever to not build the wall and close the border.

It just has to be the priority. And the business/politics as usual cronys will not rsik the votes.

Just do it....it is that simple.

The wall is already there, it just hasn't been maintained for the last 7 years. It is badly needed. We wintered near the wall in 4 different areas for 4 years. It's not safe, that's why we are here.

Expenses paid by the illegals???? They are often quite broke.

Trump can deduct the money from the federal aid paid to Mexico.

How much money does the U.S. give to Mexico?
According to our research engine:
The U.S. Government gave a total of $209,432,920 to Mexico in 2012:

The aid was broken down in the following manner:
Economic
Child Survival and Health: $-12,200
Department of Defense Security Assistance: $39,854
Development Assistance: $17,948,047
Economic Support Fund/Security Support Assistance: $40,810,450
Global Health and Child Survival: $3,894,197
Narcotics Control: $27,565,779
Nonproliferation, Anti-Terrorism, Demining and Related: $7,074,531
Other Active Grant Programs: $15,381,152
Other State Assistance: $2,700,596
Other USAID Assistance: $2,764
Other USDA Assistance: $372,914
Peace Corps: $2,000,836

Military
Military Assistance, Total: $91,654,000

"Numerous fact-checking organizations have taken issue with Trump's estimate that the wall would be built for $10 billion to $12 billion. And, they have rejected his contention that the wall could be funded by reducing the U.S. trade deficit with Mexico. Figures released by the Army Corps of Engineers and the Congressional Research Service indicate that the total cost of the current 650-mile fence has been $7 billion. And that doesn't include maintenance and upkeep."

The cost of the wall is not an issue in the overall scheme of money being spent.

The issue is for the sake of national security, the boarder needs to be closed and secured.

How can it be stated any more simply.

Maybe if the illegals were allowed to set up tents on lawn spaces in TV some might finally be inspired to do something about it. And I do not mean just the common area I mean the green space around the homes as well.

With no investment in the issue it is all too easy for too many to either do nothing or to claim it is not that big of a problem.

The border needs to be closed and secured.

Stand and be counted!

Isn't it more complicated than a big wall if:

In a 2006 report, Pew estimated that "nearly half of all the unauthorized migrants now living in the United States entered the country legally through a port of entry such as an airport or a border crossing point where they were subject to inspection by immigration officials." While the source data gave an estimate that ranged from 33 percent to 50 percent, the report went middle-of-the-road and called it 45 percent.


Rubio says 40% of illegal immigrants stayed in the U.S. after their visas expired | PolitiFact Florida


Rubio thinks so. Trump doesn't.

Deduct the money from Planned Parenthood. They don't need it.

Simple solutions are for the simple minded. To quote General Patton, "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."

If the Republicans want a wall, they are going to have to compromise on the illegal immigrants already here. The Democrats in the Senate will filibuster any bill that only is a wall, and deport everyone not here legally. Trump can beat his chest all he wants on the campaign trail. If he is elected president, God save us, he has to compromise, a word he doesn't have in his head, with people that don't agree with him, and have the power to stop him.

Trump is nothing, but noise, and funny faces.

There are not hoards of illegals coming across the southern border. The number of illegals hasn't changed much in past seven plus years. Can this statement be proven? No. But can the statement that hoards are coming across be proven? No. That statement is pure speculation. It depends on, which side of the wall, you are standing on, and who are listening to.

Ask the Americans who live along or near the boarders.
How about the daily camera views showing lines of people coming across at night.

So is it OK that only 60% of all coming are doing so illegally? Of course not.

The wall does not fix the problem. It is a neccessary start that sends the message, the open door policy is no more.

Next the boarder patrol needs to be directed to enforce the laws on immigration currently on the books. No paper work or wrong paper work turn around and hit the road.

Visa is expired? Get ready because to be checked upon and sent back when found.

One the boarders are closed and secured and the existing laws enforced we can determine what to do about the illegals that have lived here illegally for many years. They cannot remain in illegal status. That does not mean deport automatically. It means a determination to be made on what it takes to remain.

Those who are arguing aginst the wall are unfortunately victims of the partisan vote pandering offense.

Reverse the situation and cross into Mexico illegally. See what their policy is toward "ILLEGAL" entry. We are so used to illegals crossing that when the numbers flatten a bit many think the problem has subsided. Illegal is Illegal except in the USA where our politicians selectively enforce laws to suit their policies and views.

My issue is not with the immigrants coming into the USA. It, rather, is with the redneck illiterates who do not know the difference between a "border" and a "boarder".

Not quite so. Many of the illegals coming into the USA across the Mexican border are from other Central American countries. They did not obtain entrance visas to cross into Mexico at the Mexican southern borders, did they? The Mexican border is as porous as is the US border.

You are obviously thinking of the instance many months ago when a drunk ex-Marine crossed into Mexico with weapons in his car and was held for some time in Mexican prison.

Always the a$$ orifice.

I put bait like that in many of my posts to give those like you an excuse to not address the issue.

We know you would not be so nasty mouth face to face!!

Sorta like those crying wolf....nobody pays attention.

We have the answer already, if an employer hires an illegal, he gets a large fine and possibly prison. No company would be able to say, we will pay the fine but we will not admit guilt. Without a job, the alternative is to go back across the border. Someone in the company has to be responsible for the hiring. The repubs and democrats are both guilty of not enforcing this law.

You are so naive. You do not have a clue as to how Americans are treated in Mexico. You will probably base your vast knowledge of Mexico on a trip to Cancun.

No, you have gross errors like that in your posts because you are ignorant.

What are you, a bigot or a racist? Really, Redneck??? I bet you are a closet racist also. The "N" is not too far from your lips, I'm sure.

More proof that the backside orifice can type!

:big bow: The sad part, we see it quite frequently in these posts. Proof the uneducated love Trump.

OK we applaud those of you who have the higher typing skills.
Adding to the name calling and disrespect makes you a what?

I hear what you are saying about the wall. If the Democrats agree that the wall has to be completed first, they know that there will never be a second step. How do they know this? There was a Senate bipartisan bill that gave the Republicans a wall, and addressed the illegals in this countries. It never hit the floor in the House, because of the Hastert Rule. The state of politics has gone way down hill since then.

Given the current state of the Trump's constant noise with the other Republicans hopefuls following suit about immigration, the Republicans only solution is to deport all illegals. You don't stir up this much hate, and think that you can walk away from it.

It wasn't me that corrected your border/boarder. The correction was uncalled for given comment that followed.

No way was it a typo. Nice try though.

So, let's make this clear as glass. There are some that do not want to enforce Constitutional law, and others that do. Laws means something to some folks and nothing to others. Deporting criminals (illegals) is too hard, so therefore it shouldn't be attempted. Because if you can't get them all, why bother, right? So, even though other presidents have deported illegals, we shouldn't attempt it, even though we have improved technology. Ok, I have it.

Now, one more question for anyone what might like a challenge. Why do we allow employers a pass when they hire illegals? They are breaking the law. Why do certain states provide drivers licenses to illegals? They are breaking the law. Am I wrong in assuming that there is a certain class of (NON) citizens that are allowed benefits that an American born citizen does not? I would never hire someone that told me that some task was too hard/difficult.

So, Trump who has built many towering buildings says he can build a wall around the border, and who is it that says he can't? Given the money, I could build a border wall.

What happened to the "CAN DO" attitude of old America?

Correct (for a change).

A typo would be unintended.

My mispelled are intentional to provide the limited scope participants some entertanement!

:thumbup:

Maybe you're right. We can put in some golf courses, rec centers and patio homes on our side and sell them to the over 55 crowd. I hear the weather is warm.

In reference to the Wall of Trump sure we can do it look at the one over by San Diego California it looks real nice

Which one is it?
https://www.google.com/search?q=San+...w=1366&bih=643

Is it a fence or is there a concrete one?

Who says that he can't build a wall along the Southern border with Mexico? Since we have people here that correct every minor point, I assume that you meant the Mexican border. A fence around the entire country plus Alaska, and Hawaii would be a bit much, but it is something to think about.

The answer to your question is very easy. It is the Democrats in Senate. If he isn't elected president, will he do it on his own? He can charge people for looking at his beautiful wall. Thereby, he will get his money back. It is not like any of his business ventures have ever gone bankrupt.

What happened to America's can do attitude? Mr. Filibuster, Mitch McConnell! He made sure nothing got done. It worked so well that the Democrats are now following his shining example of how to stop everything. CAN DO! Well that has turned into BLEEP YOU!

BS, the Democrats had a filibuster proof congress for two years and didn't get **** done! Aren't you liberals tired of whining and blaming everyone else. If it's not Bush, then it's congress. Give it a break and grow a pair. Take some responsibility for your failures.

They, like their president have done nothing. They will be just as happy as the rest of us come January 2017.

Unless the are totally skull numb and try to get the feloneous liar elected. Then they will think the last 8 years were better by almost any measure.

Such a pity the choices they do not have after 8 years of pennance!

Trump wants to build a $15 billion wall that can be defeated by a $10 shovel or a $75 extension ladder from Casa Depot. People have been scaling walls since the middle ages. Gen Patton was right.

$4 billion a year given to illegals filing tax returns with 6-10 phony dependents.

Yes, forget because a libtard says it's too hard. Forget it because someone might be able to dig under it or climb over it. Make marijuana legal because it's too hard to enforce the law. Make everything easier so that the elite can feel better about being lazy and not getting anything done, and live will be easier if we don't have to enforce the law. Let criminals that invade our country have citizenship rights because it is easier. Let them have drivers licenses because they are already breaking the law and we want to make them legal to lower the crime stats.

Hey, since a wall won't work, why don't you leave your home unlocked because a burglar will just break in easily anyway. You libtards are pathetic losers and could not even exist if not for the charity of conservatives. You liberals should be grateful for the services of conservatives because if not for us, there would be a bounty on your heads and you would have to learn a foreign language.

Have you seen the plans?


This is one engineer's estimate based on the information from Trump.


Foundation: 6 feet deep, 18 inch radius = 42.4 cubic feet
Column: 4 square feet area by 30 feet tall = 120 cubic feet
Wall panels: 25 feet tall by 10 feet long by 8 inches thick = 166.7 cubic feet
Total concrete per 10-foot segment = 329.1 cubic feet
1,954 miles = 10,300,00 feet = 1,030,000 segments (10-feet long each)
1,030,000 segments * 329.1 cubic feet per segment = 339,000,000 cubic feet = 12,555,000 cubic yards. (The cubic yard is the standard unit of measure of concrete volume in the United States.)

Since this was drawn up Trump raised it another 10 feet. I'm guessing the foundation would be deeper too.

I guess if a ladder is big enough and there is one on each side or if you start digging and have plenty of time then I guess the wall won't accomplish what has been suggested.

Ammo is a lot cheaper. Just put some snipers on the border and give them the green light to shoot any invaders. You won't even have to pay wages for the work. All volunteers. No problem with animal rights groups and hunters either. It's a win-win situation.

If they do build the wall they will need to build roads. One of the biggest reasons business moves to Mexico is that they don't need to deal with ports. They are our neighbors. One of the biggest problems is that there are not enough roads and gates. What if the wall and the new roads solves that problem and more business moves to Mexico? They may even pay for the wall if it's good for business.

I'll bet Trump figured that out a long time ago.

Do you see how they manufacture in China? Everyone lives together at the factory site. That's cheaper than robots for them. Is that how they manufacture in Mexico?

Are you going to put a wall around the whole country, they will use boats to get into the east and west coast areas and will also come across the Canadian border. So you better buy a lot of wire and concrete.