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Phantom 11-25-2008 10:50 AM

Can Anyone Identify This Snake found in our Driveway in Amelia
 
While out on the prowl last evening, I almost walked into this snake sitting by our garage. It was about 3 feet long. I took a few pictures, but it was dark. Can anyone tell what kind of snake this is?

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...&pictureid=509

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...&pictureid=510

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...&pictureid=511

SteveZ 11-25-2008 10:57 AM

Looks like the broker who advised me to buy Enron and GM stock.

All kidding aside, the following link provides a decent set of photos for most FL snakes:

http://www.southalley.com/snakes.html

Boomer 11-25-2008 10:57 AM

Phantom,

Could you ask it to come back for a retake? It's hard to see much. Can't see its head. In the last shot, is it in motion or did it just have dinner? (several courses) I guess both.

Hey, thanks for sharing! (Ug!)

Boomer

Cassie325 11-25-2008 11:18 AM

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herpetology...nlineguide.htm

You can try this....used it before when we found a snake....yuk!

CJ 11-25-2008 11:33 AM

snakes
 
Why are there snakes lurking in the villages to begin with. There is so much activity, they are supposed to be scared. Where did this snake call home? These questions are bothering me....anyone want to buy a brand new lantana? I can't handle this!!!!

GMONEY 11-25-2008 04:44 PM

Hard to say, resembles a Cotton Mouth. but not sure. photo to dark. was the head shaped like a heart? could be a black snake.
alot of help i am huh??

Aceskaters 11-25-2008 05:32 PM

It looks very much like a cottonmouth, dark on top, pattern on the bottom, fat.
If it is, it is very poisonous. If you poke at it with a broom and it turns to you with a big wide open white mouth, then it's a cottonmouth. Oh, wait, don't poke at it...the dangerous snakes don't run from you...they don't have too!

jojo 11-25-2008 05:55 PM

What part of Amelia? I'm going to look carefully when I step out.

JAV0108 11-25-2008 06:36 PM

Ok, don't everyone panic. First of all, it is NOT a cotton mouth, they are only in and around water. It looks like a king snake. Did it have a black head? King and coral resemble each other but the coral has the black head and is poisonous but is usually so small that it can't get it's mouth around anything and will retreat and not attack. Unless cornered, all snakes will retreat. It was probably trying to warm itself. They usually are trying to find warmth this time of year. I know it's not fun to come upon a snake and they scare me to death too but please don't harm it and please don't panic. I really think what you saw was a king snake, (oranges and yellows and blacks in color) very harmless.

graciegirl 11-25-2008 06:55 PM

OH rats. OH no. Oh......otherbadwords. I hate snakes. Oh NO!

The Great Fumar 11-25-2008 07:51 PM

Looks like a common Mud Snake to me.......Harmless but I'll have to admit that this one is pretty big for a mud snake.........She's probably an old timer..
Snakes like to lay on cement this time of year as its warmer ...

fumar

BMill 11-25-2008 10:52 PM

Snake
 
My husband says it might be an Eastern Diamondback but the tail looks wrong. He said the way it is sitting it looks like one but he didn't see any rattlers on it.

Do you see a lot of snakes at The Villages?

I am so petrified of them. We live near the coast (SE Florida) so we don't see too many.

graciegirl 11-26-2008 01:15 AM

It is the middle of the night and I have just studied the snake guide.
 
I copied this from that guide Cassie linked. Maybe it's just a ..............

Mud Snake

Kenneth L. Krysko photo.

Scientific name: Farancia abacura.

The following key will separate the two subspecies of mud snakes that are found in Florida. If you are unable to distinguish between the subspecies based on the characteristics in the key below, you probably can do so using the geographic location alone.

1a The ends of 53 or more red to pink bars from the belly extend onto its sides; found throughout Florida, except the Florida Keys. Eastern Mud snake,
Farancia abacura abacura
1b The ends of 52 or fewer reddish pink bars extend from the belly onto its sides; extreme western panhandle.

However, the belly marking look more like splotches than bands.....I am not going to ask it to sit for a painting....!

GMONEY 11-26-2008 06:05 AM

We caught a Cotton Mouth last week on 466a by colony plaza, should say caught, but hit one. Not a King unless it is a MExican King, but not around here. i believe Steve had a weblink that will help.

Taltarzac 11-26-2008 07:19 AM

That looks like a female black swamp snake??
 
http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/snakes/sempyg.htm

http://www.dcnr.alabama.gov/watchabl...nakes/nfss.cfm

Phantom 11-26-2008 09:30 AM

Thanks for Your Input
 
Thanks to everyone for your responses. I can’t provide much more information on the description than was shown in the pictures, although the snake did not appear to be black. (I’d make a poor witness to an accident scene).

I guess we’ll never really know what it was, but I appreciate the web-links provided and have checked them all. I did forget to mention that we live next to a lot that backs onto a pond – so we are close to water.

I personally thought it might be a Florida Banded Watersnake, as shown below – but now I’m not so sure as the head looks wrong, as does the underbelly. The head looked more like the Cottonmouth – but who knows?

Maybe I’ll invest in a better camera for my next encounter.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...&pictureid=513

Russ_Boston 11-26-2008 10:04 AM

Shhhh!
 
When we visit next May, if anyone mentions anything about snakes to Linda...

I will be living the rest of my life in MA if she sees this thread so shhhhh!

Becky 11-26-2008 10:47 AM

I'm with Jojo on this one- where in Amelia?????

Becky

GMONEY 11-26-2008 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 175078)
Thanks to everyone for your responses. I can’t provide much more information on the description than was shown in the pictures, although the snake did not appear to be black. (I’d make a poor witness to an accident scene).

I guess we’ll never really know what it was, but I appreciate the web-links provided and have checked them all. I did forget to mention that we live next to a lot that backs onto a pond – so we are close to water.

I personally thought it might be a Florida Banded Watersnake, as shown below – but now I’m not so sure as the head looks wrong, as does the underbelly. The head looked more like the Cottonmouth – but who knows?

Maybe I’ll invest in a better camera for my next encounter.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...&pictureid=513


that looked awful close to it.. the other one looked a little darker, both of these resemble the Cotton Mouth.

juneroses 11-26-2008 03:43 PM

The following link is a very interesting but long thread on the Florida cottonmouth/water moccasin. It includes pictures.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...356396925.html

marantho 11-26-2008 09:59 PM

I vote for it being a Banded Watersnake or possibly a mudsnake...the picture is really too dark to see clearly.

Julie 11-30-2008 10:45 PM

After keying it out the little beauty appears to be a Nerodia fasciata
otherwise known as a banded watersnake. If it is a banded watersnake it is harmless. What a beautiful animal, I wish I could have been there to witness it myself. Here's a picture I found on the web that somewhat resembles the original photos.


http://www.discoverlife.org/IM/I_JDW...a,I_JDW574.jpg


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