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Guest 03-16-2016 09:29 AM

supreme court
 
Well, all the repub congress can start the block. The repubs who are so pure constitutionally. Will they going to go again their principals? If they have any.

Guest 03-16-2016 09:56 AM

As we all know too well, the Republicans in Congress are nothing but obstructionists. If anything at all is proposed by President Obama, they are automatically against it - even if they do not have a better plan.

Now, it would be to the benefit of Congress to look at any Supreme Court nominee by Pres. Obama because WHEN Mrs. Clinton gets elected President, her choices will most likely be more liberal than what is presented now.

Don't say any crap about Mrs. Clinton not being elected President. That is a GIVEN - on ANY news channel.

Guest 03-16-2016 11:06 AM

Why are you and so many others surprised at the rhetoric of the nomination going nowhere.

Obama has been officially notified of that weeks ago.

The great divider, Obama, thinks he can make the republicans look bad by not doing his bidding.

History even states what has been done in the past.

And of course we all know that no matter the history; no matter the right thing to do; no matter he knows it will not happen......he is going to procede to continue trying to further his agenda.

And of course the media will only help him make his point knowing it is going to die on the vine until after the election.

There are some rules he just cannot work around or ignore.....as he usually does on his agenda items.

Who knows if the world goes stupid and the electorate has to much X-X-X kool aid and wacky weed in November and< GOD forbid, Clinton gets elected.....she can have the honors.......of the beginning of the continuation of the devastating of America.

Now I am going to have nightmares.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 03-16-2016 11:23 AM

Merrick Garland Is Named As President Obama's Supreme Court Nominee : The Two-Way : NPR

We will have to see what happens.

Guest 03-16-2016 11:43 AM

Stock up on ammo!

Clinton will be elected president, there is nobody that can stop that. She will be elected by the 52% of voters that are on government assistance (it was 49% in 2013, do the math) and they don't care how many lies she tells, they don't care how many emails she has deleted, they don't care how many classified emails she sent off her personal server, they don't care how many people died in Benghazi, they don't want America to be put back to work...all they care about is "no cuts to their benefits" and she is that!

The ammo will be needed when this country goes bankrupt because it gives away more than it takes in, and because the working people can't afford the non working anymore. When those benefits stop coming; the recipients have developed a sense of entitlement (some of them have had the last 3 generations of their families on welfare), they will seek to find food and money elsewhere. Get ready for Civil War II.

Go ahead and debate, the old and weak will be the first attacked...stock up on ammo!!

Guest 03-16-2016 11:51 AM

Here we go. Buckle up. Left field tangent number one that has nothing to do with the thread.

While pushing the delerious notion tha Clinton is unstoppable. Must be the only way some can go to sleep at night is by telling fairy tales....that sound more like horror stories given the lead character.

Guest 03-16-2016 12:05 PM

" The " Biden Rule " is now being respected as precedence and what`s wrong with that ?

Guest 03-16-2016 12:23 PM

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" The " Biden Rule " is now being respected as precedence and what`s wrong with that ?

Because that one went over the libtard's head. You have to spell out what the Biden rule is to him because he refuses to learn anything other than liberal talking points.

It's OK for Democrats to be obstructionists and refuse to pass bills or vote on a nomination, but heaven help those big meanie Republicans if they pull the same stunts.

Guest 03-16-2016 12:25 PM

During last year of G.W.Bush, Chuck Schumer said:
“We should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court except in extraordinary circumstances. They must prove by actions not words that they are in the mainstream rather than we have to prove that they are not. I will do everything in my power to prevent one more ideological ally from joining (Justices John) Roberts and (Samuel) Alito.”
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“It is my view that if a Supreme Court Justice resigns tomorrow, or within the next several weeks, or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not — and not — name a nominee until after the November election is completed. The Senate, too, Mr. President, must consider how it would respond to a Supreme Court vacancy that would occur in the full throes of an election year. It is my view that if the President goes the way of Presidents Fillmore and Johnson and presses an election-year nomination, the Senate Judiciary Committee should seriously consider not scheduling confirmation hearings on the nomination until after the political campaign season is over. …Others may fret that this approach would leave the Court with only eight members for some time, but as I see it, Mr. President, the cost of such a result, the need to reargue three or four cases that will divide the Justices four to four are quite minor compared to the cost that a nominee, the President, the Senate, and the nation would have to pay for what would assuredly be a bitter fight, no matter how good a person is nominated by the President, if that nomination were to take place in the next several weeks.”

— Then-Sen. Joe Biden, statement on the floor of the Senate, June 25, 1992 (an election year)

Guest 03-16-2016 12:33 PM

When Obama was a senator he too spoke and voted against the reublicans nominating and seating a supreme court justice in a lame duck year.

A couple of weeks ago he stated there was an error in his judgement back then.

To that we give the Obama salute of the day:

BS!

Guest 03-16-2016 01:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1199468)
When Obama was a senator he too spoke and voted against the reublicans nominating and seating a supreme court justice in a lame duck year.

A couple of weeks ago he stated there was an error in his judgement back then.

To that we give the Obama salute of the day:

BS!

:thumbup:

Guest 03-16-2016 01:16 PM

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Stock up on ammo!

Clinton will be elected president, there is nobody that can stop that. She will be elected by the 52% of voters that are on government assistance (it was 49% in 2013, do the math) and they don't care how many lies she tells, they don't care how many emails she has deleted, they don't care how many classified emails she sent off her personal server, they don't care how many people died in Benghazi, they don't want America to be put back to work...all they care about is "no cuts to their benefits" and she is that!

The ammo will be needed when this country goes bankrupt because it gives away more than it takes in, and because the working people can't afford the non working anymore. When those benefits stop coming; the recipients have developed a sense of entitlement (some of them have had the last 3 generations of their families on welfare), they will seek to find food and money elsewhere. Get ready for Civil War II.

Go ahead and debate, the old and weak will be the first attacked...stock up on ammo!!

I can't seem to find that sign that asks if you are a troll or a retard, soooo.....

Guest 03-16-2016 01:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1199445)
Stock up on ammo!

Clinton will be elected president, there is nobody that can stop that. She will be elected by the 52% of voters that are on government assistance (it was 49% in 2013, do the math) and they don't care how many lies she tells, they don't care how many emails she has deleted, they don't care how many classified emails she sent off her personal server, they don't care how many people died in Benghazi, they don't want America to be put back to work...all they care about is "no cuts to their benefits" and she is that!

The ammo will be needed when this country goes bankrupt because it gives away more than it takes in, and because the working people can't afford the non working anymore. When those benefits stop coming; the recipients have developed a sense of entitlement (some of them have had the last 3 generations of their families on welfare), they will seek to find food and money elsewhere. Get ready for Civil War II.

Go ahead and debate, the old and weak will be the first attacked...stock up on ammo!!

Where are the men in the white coats when you need then. What a wacko!

Guest 03-16-2016 01:21 PM

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Where are the men in the white coats when you need then. What a wacko!

:clap2:...:thumbup:

Guest 03-16-2016 01:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1199445)
Stock up on ammo!

Clinton will be elected president, there is nobody that can stop that. She will be elected by the 52% of voters that are on government assistance (it was 49% in 2013, do the math).


How many people in The Villages are on government assistance? Look over on the Historic side and into the older sections around Rio Grande. Look just outside The Villages to Lady Lake and Wildwood.

How many Villagers take the $15,000 property tax exemption for low income seniors in addition to their $50,000 homestead exemption?

How many Villagers regularly use the local food pantries because their limited survivors Social Security just is not enough?

Go on and do your mantra of "Don't Work, Don't Eat". Tell that to these Villagers.

Guest 03-16-2016 02:10 PM

The repubs are playing russian roulette with this appointment, when Hillary wins and she will, she will appoint a far left judge. Pay me now or pay me later.

Guest 03-16-2016 02:11 PM

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The repubs are playing russian roulette with this appointment, when Hillary wins and she will, she will appoint a far left judge. Pay me now or pay me later.

:mademyday: I agree!

Guest 03-16-2016 02:25 PM

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How many people in The Villages are on government assistance? Look over on the Historic side and into the older sections around Rio Grande. Look just outside The Villages to Lady Lake and Wildwood.

How many Villagers take the $15,000 property tax exemption for low income seniors in addition to their $50,000 homestead exemption?

How many Villagers regularly use the local food pantries because their limited survivors Social Security just is not enough?

Go on and do your mantra of "Don't Work, Don't Eat". Tell that to these Villagers.

What's social security have to do with welfare? What's taking tax breaks have to do with welfare? Are you stupid, or just an idiot?

Guest 03-16-2016 02:30 PM

Forbes Welcome

We've Crossed The Tipping Point; Most Americans Now Receive Government Benefits

Guest 03-16-2016 02:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1199535)
The repubs are playing russian roulette with this appointment, when Hillary wins and she will, she will appoint a far left judge. Pay me now or pay me later.

Unless Slick Willy can show her a way of winning the election without votes, she is going to have a bit of trouble getting elected. Democrat turnout is very low and Republican turn out is historically high, increased by millions. Hope you don't commit Seppuku when you don't get your way. Naw, that takes guts(pun intended), and we know that if you are a liberal it just ain't there. I'm sure that your momma can support you when you lose all your gov handouts.

Guest 03-16-2016 02:32 PM

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Forbes Welcome

We've Crossed The Tipping Point; Most Americans Now Receive Government Benefits

Yes, but they are also including EARNED benefits in their calculation. If the gov is going to force you to invest in your retirement, then they need to live up to their promise to deliver. Or, are they just another Ponzi scheme?

Guest 03-16-2016 02:39 PM

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Yes, but they are also including EARNED benefits in their calculation. If the gov is going to force you to invest in your retirement, then they need to live up to their promise to deliver. Or, are they just another Ponzi scheme?

The 52% includes those recipients who have payed into social security and medicare.

Guest 03-16-2016 02:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1199548)
Yes, but they are also including EARNED benefits in their calculation. If the gov is going to force you to invest in your retirement, then they need to live up to their promise to deliver. Or, are they just another Ponzi scheme?

Yes, 13.6% includes recipients of social security and medicare...but that check stops when the country goes bankrupt too. Only difference is a majority of those recipients are not just counting on SS to survive. Yeah I know you want and need that money, but be honest a person would be a fool to think they could afford to retire on that alone.

SS is a ponzi scheme to some degree. The first people to draw never paid into the fund and ever since then it has run in the red. Maybe they will do what the labor unions are doing and set up tiered pension plans, but wait who will fund the original pension if all the new members are paying into a different fund???

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 03-16-2016 02:56 PM

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The 52% includes those recipients who have payed into social security and medicare.

Yes, but I doubt that 52% of the population are retired and of medicare age. Unless there is that much fraud going on. I do realize that thousand of dead people are receiving gov benefits.

Guest 03-16-2016 03:03 PM

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Yes, but I doubt that 52% of the population are retired and of medicare age. Unless there is that much fraud going on. I do realize that thousand of dead people are receiving gov benefits.

The 52% includes...........

Guest 03-16-2016 03:16 PM

The SCOTUS is a joke. They're as bought and paid for as the Senators who nominate them.

Guest 03-16-2016 05:31 PM

This judge nominee is against the 2nd Amendment, so he doesn't get my support. As if that mattered to the D.C. elite anyway.

Guest 03-16-2016 06:33 PM

Nothing but an Obama political lever to throw into the election cycle.....he thinks.

It also shows how he continually defies precedent and the rules of the game.

Gee what was his position on this very same subject when he was a senator?
In so many words no way allow a republican president to nominate a judge in their lame duck year.

SURPRISE!!!!

Guest 03-16-2016 06:44 PM

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During last year of G.W.Bush, Chuck Schumer said:
“We should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court except in extraordinary circumstances. They must prove by actions not words that they are in the mainstream rather than we have to prove that they are not. I will do everything in my power to prevent one more ideological ally from joining (Justices John) Roberts and (Samuel) Alito.”
==============================
“It is my view that if a Supreme Court Justice resigns tomorrow, or within the next several weeks, or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not — and not — name a nominee until after the November election is completed. The Senate, too, Mr. President, must consider how it would respond to a Supreme Court vacancy that would occur in the full throes of an election year. It is my view that if the President goes the way of Presidents Fillmore and Johnson and presses an election-year nomination, the Senate Judiciary Committee should seriously consider not scheduling confirmation hearings on the nomination until after the political campaign season is over. …Others may fret that this approach would leave the Court with only eight members for some time, but as I see it, Mr. President, the cost of such a result, the need to reargue three or four cases that will divide the Justices four to four are quite minor compared to the cost that a nominee, the President, the Senate, and the nation would have to pay for what would assuredly be a bitter fight, no matter how good a person is nominated by the President, if that nomination were to take place in the next several weeks.”

— Then-Sen. Joe Biden, statement on the floor of the Senate, June 25, 1992 (an election year)

So did the Democrats actually block a Republican a Supreme Court nominee? If so could you provide a link please?

Guest 03-16-2016 07:12 PM

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So did the Democrats actually block a Republican a Supreme Court nominee? If so could you provide a link please?

No. There was no Supreme Court nominee in "W's" last year 2008. Also, there wasn't a nominee in his father's last year, 1992.

Guest 03-16-2016 07:16 PM

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So did the Democrats actually block a Republican a Supreme Court nominee? If so could you provide a link please?

Yes, I would also like to read about it.

Guest 03-16-2016 07:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1199462)
During last year of G.W.Bush, Chuck Schumer said:
“We should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court except in extraordinary circumstances. They must prove by actions not words that they are in the mainstream rather than we have to prove that they are not. I will do everything in my power to prevent one more ideological ally from joining (Justices John) Roberts and (Samuel) Alito.”
==============================
“It is my view that if a Supreme Court Justice resigns tomorrow, or within the next several weeks, or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not — and not — name a nominee until after the November election is completed. The Senate, too, Mr. President, must consider how it would respond to a Supreme Court vacancy that would occur in the full throes of an election year. It is my view that if the President goes the way of Presidents Fillmore and Johnson and presses an election-year nomination, the Senate Judiciary Committee should seriously consider not scheduling confirmation hearings on the nomination until after the political campaign season is over. …Others may fret that this approach would leave the Court with only eight members for some time, but as I see it, Mr. President, the cost of such a result, the need to reargue three or four cases that will divide the Justices four to four are quite minor compared to the cost that a nominee, the President, the Senate, and the nation would have to pay for what would assuredly be a bitter fight, no matter how good a person is nominated by the President, if that nomination were to take place in the next several weeks.”

— Then-Sen. Joe Biden, statement on the floor of the Senate, June 25, 1992 (an election year)


You have to wonder what will happen, if Hillary is elected. You can almost bet that Republicans will rush to confirm Garland during the lame duck period. They will site the Biden rule, and be correct(?)(see highlighted area). They will do a complete 180 on the voters should decide, who appoints the next Supreme Court judge.

Guest 03-17-2016 04:14 AM

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You have to wonder what will happen, if Hillary is elected. You can almost bet that Republicans will rush to confirm Garland during the lame duck period. They will site the Biden rule, and be correct(?)(see highlighted area). They will do a complete 180 on the voters should decide, who appoints the next Supreme Court judge.

You are giving Hillary much more credit than she deserves. And you are giving Trump less credit than he deserves. The only way the Senate will confirm Garland is if they plan to sabotage Trump and they believe that Hillary will then have a chance of winning the election. If so, then they will all lose their next election because they will lose the support of the voter.

Guest 03-17-2016 04:16 AM

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No. There was no Supreme Court nominee in "W's" last year 2008. Also, there wasn't a nominee in his father's last year, 1992.

AND the only reason a judge was confirmed in Reagan's last year was because he was nominated the year before. He was confirmed in Feb of the election year.

Guest 03-17-2016 05:48 PM

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You are giving Hillary much more credit than she deserves. And you are giving Trump less credit than he deserves. The only way the Senate will confirm Garland is if they plan to sabotage Trump and they believe that Hillary will then have a chance of winning the election. If so, then they will all lose their next election because they will lose the support of the voter.


That is not the only way. Polls! Trump lives and breaths on polls. When they are not in his favor, he just says that they are. If Hillary is leading in the polls in August, and definitely later than that, the Senate Republicans could have a change in heart. Then, problem they may have then is Obama pulling Garland for consideration. He could do a 180 just as quickly as the Republican will be doing a 180. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

The Republicans are playing a game of chance with Garland for no good reason. Once upon a time, politics wasn't a game of chance. If they lose, they are going to get what they deserve.

Guest 03-18-2016 08:16 AM

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That is not the only way. Polls! Trump lives and breaths on polls. When they are not in his favor, he just says that they are. If Hillary is leading in the polls in August, and definitely later than that, the Senate Republicans could have a change in heart. Then, problem they may have then is Obama pulling Garland for consideration. He could do a 180 just as quickly as the Republican will be doing a 180. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

The Republicans are playing a game of chance with Garland for no good reason. Once upon a time, politics wasn't a game of chance. If they lose, they are going to get what they deserve.

You liberals always look through a two way mirror. You seem to think that everyone is against you, and that you are on the good side. You aren't and they aren't. We care more for the country than you do, period. You care only for yourselves and your radical ideology. Conservatives care about America's future and the welfare of ALL the people.

I doubt Hillary will win, unless the GOP implodes over their internal fight for power. The GOP establishment is no different than the DNC establishment in their lust for power. But, conservatives are just conservatives and do not rely on the power base to dictate how they will vote.

If Trump gets the nomination, then it is the will of the people NOT the establishment. Regardless of whether or not he is the best suited for the position, he was chosen by the people, and especially not by the elite establishment. If they change the rules, then yes Hillary will win IF she is not incarcerated by then. And with the present establishment running interference for her, it is unlikely she will be prosecuted. She has threatened to take them all down with her, if she is pushed. Just what America needs as it's next leader, scum from the bottom of the barrel.

Guest 03-18-2016 09:31 AM

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You liberals always look through a two way mirror. You seem to think that everyone is against you, and that you are on the good side. You aren't and they aren't. We care more for the country than you do, period. You care only for yourselves and your radical ideology. Conservatives care about America's future and the welfare of ALL the people.

I doubt Hillary will win, unless the GOP implodes over their internal fight for power. The GOP establishment is no different than the DNC establishment in their lust for power. But, conservatives are just conservatives and do not rely on the power base to dictate how they will vote.

If Trump gets the nomination, then it is the will of the people NOT the establishment. Regardless of whether or not he is the best suited for the position, he was chosen by the people, and especially not by the elite establishment. If they change the rules, then yes Hillary will win IF she is not incarcerated by then. And with the present establishment running interference for her, it is unlikely she will be prosecuted. She has threatened to take them all down with her, if she is pushed. Just what America needs as it's next leader, scum from the bottom of the barrel.

So, I am a liberal, and you know this how? I forgot. Everyone that doesn't walk lock step with the right, and far right has to be a liberal. There is no way that there is a middle. As the right slides farther right, and the left slides farther left, the only people left with a brain in their head are the people in the middle. Given your comments, we know that your brain has been relocated. When you pass gas, is the noise deafening?

Conservative care about all the people. They show this care by not accepting the Medicaid benefit for millions of uninsured in their states. Come on man. Get a grip. Conservatives only care about themselves. They want to cut just about very social program, and you are trying to sell the nonsense that they care about everybody. They have a awful funny way of showing it.

If you doubt that Hillary will win, you had better take a good look at electoral voting map. There has to be a big change in voting in states that have gone Democratic in the past elections. A Republican has recently written a book on it, and states that the Democrat will have 240 electoral votes right out of the chute. This Republican is main stream, and hates Trump. Given that, his numbers may be a little off.

Take a look at my post that you responded to, the Republicans are already floating the idea that if Hillary wins that they will approve Garland. Orwin Hatch said this in response to a question by Al Franken. Hatch said, "you are getting your man, so what is the problem?" They are trying to sell the notion that the next president should appoint the Supreme Court justice, and they think that approving Garland in the lame duck period doesn't fly in the face of this notion. Apparently, honesty isn't something that Republicans take very seriously.

Guest 03-18-2016 09:50 AM

The sooner this nomination is viewed for what it is....a political positioning game prior to election.....and not one of who is playing by what rules.

The candidate is a specifically chosen game piece. Not one that Obama would put forth if he knew it would be approved.

We also know that if Clinton should pull it out of the fire and win, Obama would withdraw his candidate and allow her to pick a for sure as far out in left field as possible candidate, that will for certain polarize the SC all the way left......for a long, long, LONG time.

So there is no reason to try to rationalize who is doing what when they already know the position each side will take. Kinda like watching a hockey game when you already when and who is going to score......

BORING known outcome.

Guest 03-18-2016 09:50 AM

Here is the entire Franken/Hatch discussion.
Al Franken Likens GOP

Guest 03-18-2016 10:15 AM

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Here is the entire Franken/Hatch discussion.
Al Franken Likens GOP

Funny man Franken being offered as an authentication?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

He is little more than a comedian, another unqualified candidate that duped his way into congress.

It does underscore that it does not take much to get in.

Franken authentication....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


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