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Guest 03-22-2016 08:17 AM

What kind of "leader" downgrades his country?
 
Not only does Obama appologize for the "sctions" of America. he agrees, in public, with a communist leader of a pi$$ant dot of an island's criticism of the USA.

It is all about Obama making his stock look good even in the eyes of the enemy at the expense of the status of the USA.

Show me another leader of any country or head of state that has so little respect for their country.

The man is a fool and continues to be a disgrace in the rest of the world.

Obama Welcomes Castro's Criticism of America: 'I Personally Would Not Disagree' | The Weekly Standard

Guest 03-22-2016 08:50 AM

What do you expect from this American hater after seven years? Obummer never has said anything good about this country.

Guest 03-22-2016 08:57 AM

"President Castro, I think, has pointed out that in his view making sure that everybody is getting a decent education or health care, has basic security and old age, that those things are human rights as well. I personally would not disagree with him," Obama said.

How un American can you get! Nobody has a right to decent education or health care, basic security and old age. Who is he to paraphrase "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Guest 03-22-2016 09:34 AM

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"President Castro, I think, has pointed out that in his view making sure that everybody is getting a decent education or health care, has basic security and old age, that those things are human rights as well. I personally would not disagree with him," Obama said.

How un American can you get! Nobody has a right to decent education or health care, basic security and old age. Who is he to paraphrase "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Growing up with a Communist mentor, Obama is not going to disagree with a Communist. I am surprised that he has not endorsed Sanders. Of course, I am pretty sure that Hillary is blackmailing him with threats to bring him down with her if she is charged with the email crime.

Guest 03-22-2016 09:35 AM

The Obama haters ... screw the facts ... let's hate on Obama some more.

Guest 03-22-2016 09:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202209)
The Obama haters ... screw the facts ... let's hate on Obama some more.

Just what are the facts?

Guest 03-22-2016 09:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202167)
"President Castro, I think, has pointed out that in his view making sure that everybody is getting a decent education or health care, has basic security and old age, that those things are human rights as well. I personally would not disagree with him," Obama said.

How un American can you get! Nobody has a right to decent education or health care, basic security and old age. Who is he to paraphrase "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Obama must think that Cuba is a role model for the United States...with their world-class education, health care, and old-age security. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 03-22-2016 09:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202229)
Obama must think that Cuba is a role model for the United States...with their world-class education, health care, and old-age security. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I bet the poor of Cuba have a better health care system then the poor in the richest country in the US have.

But I don't want to say too much against the US, because everything this country does is the best in the world, that is why we lead the world on all relevant lists like educate, medicine, infant mortality, etc.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202239)
I bet the poor of Cuba have a better health care system then the poor in the richest country in the US have.

But I don't want to say too much against the US, because everything this country does is the best in the world, that is why we lead the world on all relevant lists like educate, medicine, infant mortality, etc.

Hey, they opened Cuba, so why don't you migrate to that great country. They need some fresh workers in the sugar cane fields. Just think of all that free health care you get over there.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202239)
I bet the poor of Cuba have a better health care system then the poor in the richest country in the US have.

But I don't want to say too much against the US, because everything this country does is the best in the world, that is why we lead the world on all relevant lists like educate, medicine, infant mortality, etc.

First off, it is "than" not "then", and just what "richest country in the US" are you referring to?

Guest 03-22-2016 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202244)
Hey, they opened Cuba, so why don't you migrate to that great country. They need some fresh workers in the sugar cane fields. Just think of all that free health care you get over there.

brilliant idea. but I think I would rather stay here and make America better instead of hating and getting rid of everyone who disagrees with you.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:19 AM

Now just a minute y'all.

Do you have your thinking caps on?

The average wage in Cuba is $20 PER MOONTH!!!

Just how great can their socialist provisions be to the poor?

The poor remain poor and poorer.

If life is so great why are there so many fleeing to come to the USA?

When people here at home believe what dictators in countries like Cuba and N Korea have to say.....to preserve supporting their party is sorta....lame (remaining polite).

When people here at home support the likes of Obama who openly agrees with the communist leader that we are not doing it right.......it is time for those supporters to pack their bags and head for those places they and Obama think got it right.

Stand and be counted as a patriotic loyal American and not some bowing down to the enemy party first no matter what they do wrong is ok lemming!

Guest 03-22-2016 10:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202246)
brilliant idea. but I think I would rather stay here and make America better instead of hating and getting rid of everyone who disagrees with you.

Yes, of course. You would rather "hate" on conservatives, blame Trump (the replacement for Bush) and agitate the big meanies until they react. And your solutions are what? Trump has solutions. Hillary tells you that you shouldn't be happy and that it's all the republican's fault, even though the liberals have been in control for the past seven years.

So, do us all a favor and quit whining. It's very irritating. Quit saying how it can't be done. And tell your messiah in the White House to quit apologizing for America, because I DON'T apologize for being the best in the world.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202260)
Now just a minute y'all.

Do you have your thinking caps on?

The average wage in Cuba is $20 PER MOONTH!!!

Just how great can their socialist provisions be to the poor?

The poor remain poor and poorer.

If life is so great why are there so many fleeing to come to the USA?

When people here at home believe what dictators in countries like Cuba and N Korea have to say.....to preserve supporting their party is sorta....lame (remaining polite).

When people here at home support the likes of Obama who openly agrees with the communist leader that we are not doing it right.......it is time for those supporters to pack their bags and head for those places they and Obama think got it right.

Stand and be counted as a patriotic loyal American and not some bowing down to the enemy party first no matter what they do wrong is ok lemming!

its 2016, not 1961.

Cuba as our friend is much better than Cuba as an enemy.

Bowing down to the enemy. Well I didn't really like Bush bowing down to the kind of Saudi Arabia (you know were all the bombers and Bin Laden came from) and even walking holding his hand. Should the leader of the free world bow and hold hands with a king of such a country?

Stop crying me a river about the utter bullcrap about Obama this and that. He had a picture taken in front of a communist leader, the right wing gas bags predictably went ballistic, yet had no problem with Nixon in front of Mao, had no probem with Reagan in front of Lenin. I am sure we can also find one of Bush Jr doing something although nothing will ever top his picture in front of the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202260)
Now just a minute y'all.

Do you have your thinking caps on?

The average wage in Cuba is $20 PER MOONTH!!!

Just how great can their socialist provisions be to the poor?

The poor remain poor and poorer.

If life is so great why are there so many fleeing to come to the USA?

When people here at home believe what dictators in countries like Cuba and N Korea have to say.....to preserve supporting their party is sorta....lame (remaining polite).

When people here at home support the likes of Obama who openly agrees with the communist leader that we are not doing it right.......it is time for those supporters to pack their bags and head for those places they and Obama think got it right.

Stand and be counted as a patriotic loyal American and not some bowing down to the enemy party first no matter what they do wrong is ok lemming!

:thumbup: ....:agree:

Guest 03-22-2016 10:32 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202273)
its 2016, not 1961.

Cuba as our friend is much better than Cuba as an enemy.

Bowing down to the enemy. Well I didn't really like Bush bowing down to the kind of Saudi Arabia (you know were all the bombers and Bin Laden came from) and even walking holding his hand. Should the leader of the free world bow and hold hands with a king of such a country?

Stop crying me a river about the utter bullcrap about Obama this and that. He had a picture taken in front of a communist leader, the right wing gas bags predictably went ballistic, yet had no problem with Nixon in front of Mao, had no probem with Reagan in front of Lenin. I am sure we can also find one of Bush Jr doing something although nothing will ever top his picture in front of the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner.

Yes, Obma's failure is Bush's fault. We get it. Obama NEEDS someone to defend him because he is the worst failure in history. He NEEDS you, but doesn't give a rats @ss about you. Make excuses for his pandering to the communist. After all his momma slept with his communist mentor, so that kind of solidifies his communist leaning.

Guest 03-22-2016 10:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202273)
its 2016, not 1961.

Cuba as our friend is much better than Cuba as an enemy.

Bowing down to the enemy. Well I didn't really like Bush bowing down to the kind of Saudi Arabia (you know were all the bombers and Bin Laden came from) and even walking holding his hand. Should the leader of the free world bow and hold hands with a king of such a country?

Stop crying me a river about the utter bullcrap about Obama this and that. He had a picture taken in front of a communist leader, the right wing gas bags predictably went ballistic, yet had no problem with Nixon in front of Mao, had no probem with Reagan in front of Lenin. I am sure we can also find one of Bush Jr doing something although nothing will ever top his picture in front of the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner.

Are you not being more than a hypocrite when you remind us it is 2016 and the turn to so many years in the past to make your points?

How about validating what you THINK or have an opinion about with current events?

That will require deviating from the talking points tactical point of view.....but give it a try!

Guest 03-22-2016 10:41 AM

"President Castro, I think,"
That's the first 4 words of the Obama quote.

That's diplomacy, the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and effective way. I don't see it as weakness or bowing down to anyone. By choosing the words "I think" he can change or twist Castro's words anyway he wants if that works for our position. If the other person says he got it wrong there is no loss of face on either side.

Guest 03-22-2016 11:32 AM

Obama may be a pinko communist, but Castro is a pure red communist. Hope Obama enjoyed his visit to Communist Cuba, while the invisible, non-existent terrorists are bombing our allies. No big deal, he's already retired and the only loose end is his request for an 18% increase in his retirement pension.

Guest 03-22-2016 11:33 AM

After all, we wouldn't want him to leave the White House, dirt poor like the Clintons and have to resort to stealing gov property like the Clintons did when they left.

Guest 03-22-2016 11:53 AM

So does anyone here disagree with the goals of excellent health care, old age security, and high quality education? If you don't disagree that those are worthy goals and legitimate interests of government, then you agree with Obama. Is it not possible that our "enemies" also have done some things right? Did Stalin rally his country at great sacrifice against the Nazi machine? Have the Viet Cong not lead to a stable and economically vibrant country? In this country, is it not likely we have made mistakes both in policy and execution? No system is perfect, neither perfectly good nor bad.

Obama has acknowledged historical missteps. Slavery was wrong. The decimation of our native population and culture was wrong. Apparently saying sorry is perceived as a weakness. I am sorry I believed that our ships were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin and that if we did not stop Communism in Vietnam the whole of Asia would fall. I am sorry for the hubris America sometimes displays in telling other nations what is best for them.
And with all that I am proud to be American and recognize that we are a great country.

And I am glad that we have a President who has enough intellectual subtlety and gracious humility to not be a bully or a blowhard.

Guest 03-22-2016 11:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202285)
"President Castro, I think,"
That's the first 4 words of the Obama quote.

That's diplomacy, the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and effective way. I don't see it as weakness or bowing down to anyone. By choosing the words "I think" he can change or twist Castro's words anyway he wants if that works for our position. If the other person says he got it wrong there is no loss of face on either side.

President Castro? And, all this time I thought Fidel was a dictator. When was he elected President of Cuba?

Guest 03-22-2016 12:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202335)
So does anyone here disagree with the goals of excellent health care, old age security, and high quality education? If you don't disagree that those are worthy goals and legitimate interests of government, then you agree with Obama. Is it not possible that our "enemies" also have done some things right? Did Stalin rally his country at great sacrifice against the Nazi machine? Have the Viet Cong not lead to a stable and economically vibrant country? In this country, is it not likely we have made mistakes both in policy and execution? No system is perfect, neither perfectly good nor bad.

Obama has acknowledged historical missteps. Slavery was wrong. The decimation of our native population and culture was wrong. Apparently saying sorry is perceived as a weakness. I am sorry I believed that our ships were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin and that if we did not stop Communism in Vietnam the whole of Asia would fall. I am sorry for the hubris America sometimes displays in telling other nations what is best for them.
And with all that I am proud to be American and recognize that we are a great country.

And I am glad that we have a President who has enough intellectual subtlety and gracious humility to not be a bully or a blowhard.

You're kidding right? You're being satiric, right? The only thing that Obama hasn't achieved yet, is give the keys of our country to the enemy. What kind of leader visits other countries with his tail between his legs? The great apologizer should restrict his cowardly pandering to his wife in his bedroom, or his boyfriend, which ever pertains. He is a disgrace. If he wanted to go into the ministry, he made a wrong turn in his application for affirmative action. Typical spoiled kid complex of one that has had everything given to him all his life. He is a disgrace and puts America to shame.

Guest 03-22-2016 01:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202336)
President Castro? And, all this time I thought Fidel was a dictator. When was he elected President of Cuba?

President Obama stood beside President Raśl Castro

I'll try to help you catch up to 1976.

Fidel served as prime minister until 1976, when he became president of Cuba.

Guest 03-22-2016 01:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202376)
President Obama stood beside President Raśl Castro

I'll try to help you catch up to 1976.

Fidel served as prime minister until 1976, when he became president of Cuba.

My mistake. When was Raul elected President?

Guest 03-22-2016 01:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202378)
My mistake. When was Raul elected President?

In 2011, Raśl also instituted a two-term limit for the office of president (each term is five years), and when he was reelected in 2013, he announced his plans to leave politics at the end of his second term.

Don't you ever get to leave TOTV to look something up? Do they use Net Nanny in your school? Did you fool me? Am I helping you with your homework?

Guest 03-22-2016 01:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202381)
In 2011, Raśl also instituted a two-term limit for the office of president (each term is five years), and when he was reelected in 2013, he announced his plans to leave politics at the end of his second term.

Don't you ever get to leave TOTV to look something up? Do they use Net Nanny in your school? Did you fool me? Am I helping you with your homework?

Someone asks a simple question and you have to be a sarcastic A-hole.

Guest 03-22-2016 01:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202387)
Someone asks a simple question and you have to be a sarcastic A-hole.

I'm sorry, you're right. Just about everything I write seems to be slammed by someone so I judged too quickly.
I reread your questions and there is not an once of sarcasm or malice in what you asked. I'll not try not to do that again.

Guest 03-22-2016 01:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202393)
I'm sorry, you're right. Just about everything I write seems to be slammed by someone so I judged too quickly.
I reread your questions and there is not an once of sarcasm or malice in what you asked. I'll not try not to do that again.

Typo

Take TWO

I'm sorry, you're right. Just about everything I write seems to be slammed by someone so I judged too quickly.
I reread your questions and there is not an once of sarcasm or malice in what you asked. I'll try not to do that again.

Guest 03-22-2016 02:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202335)
So does anyone here disagree with the goals of excellent health care, old age security, and high quality education? If you don't disagree that those are worthy goals and legitimate interests of government, then you agree with Obama. Is it not possible that our "enemies" also have done some things right? Did Stalin rally his country at great sacrifice against the Nazi machine? Have the Viet Cong not lead to a stable and economically vibrant country? In this country, is it not likely we have made mistakes both in policy and execution? No system is perfect, neither perfectly good nor bad.

Obama has acknowledged historical missteps. Slavery was wrong. The decimation of our native population and culture was wrong. Apparently saying sorry is perceived as a weakness. I am sorry I believed that our ships were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin and that if we did not stop Communism in Vietnam the whole of Asia would fall. I am sorry for the hubris America sometimes displays in telling other nations what is best for them.
And with all that I am proud to be American and recognize that we are a great country.

And I am glad that we have a President who has enough intellectual subtlety and gracious humility to not be a bully or a blowhard.

But in reading this post, you are also very much party oriented and selective in your choices of history used to make a political point.

Guest 03-22-2016 02:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202342)
You're kidding right? You're being satiric, right? The only thing that Obama hasn't achieved yet, is give the keys of our country to the enemy. What kind of leader visits other countries with his tail between his legs? The great apologizer should restrict his cowardly pandering to his wife in his bedroom, or his boyfriend, which ever pertains. He is a disgrace. If he wanted to go into the ministry, he made a wrong turn in his application for affirmative action. Typical spoiled kid complex of one that has had everything given to him all his life. He is a disgrace and puts America to shame.

:BigApplause:

Guest 03-22-2016 02:41 PM

Obie is taking in a game in Cuba today. I don't know if it is still going on, but is it too much to wish for a wild pitch? Sometimes one needs a little jar to the noggin to jerk some sense into them. Helloooo, Cuba is the enemy. Terrorists are the enemy. Israel is our ally. Three bombs in Brussels and two of them killed and maimed. Obama is relaxing on his vacation in commie land. What kind of Bizorro picture is that?

Guest 03-22-2016 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1202418]Obie is taking in a game in Cuba today. I don't know if it is still going on, but is it too much to wish for a wild pitch? Sometimes one needs a little jar to the noggin to jerk some sense into them. Helloooo, Cuba is the enemy. Terrorists are the enemy. Israel is our ally. Three bombs in Brussels and two of them killed and maimed. Obama is relaxing on his vacation in commie land. What kind of Bizorro picture is that?[/QUOTE
Yes, it's the bottom of the 6th and the El Gatos are beating the El Huevos 8 to 3. I guess he feels safe there.

Guest 03-22-2016 05:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202244)
Hey, they opened Cuba, so why don't you migrate to that great country. They need some fresh workers in the sugar cane fields. Just think of all that free health care you get over there.

You know I heard that kind of rhetoric during the Vietnam war!!

Your insults need an update....

Guest 03-22-2016 05:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202501)
You know I heard that kind of rhetoric during the Vietnam war!!

Your insults need an update....

If you found them to be insults, that means they still work.....:1rotfl:

Guest 03-22-2016 06:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202167)
"President Castro, I think, has pointed out that in his view making sure that everybody is getting a decent education or health care, has basic security and old age, that those things are human rights as well. I personally would not disagree with him," Obama said.

How un American can you get! Nobody has a right to decent education or health care, basic security and old age. Who is he to paraphrase "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Really, what is he thinking! Decent education, health care,... That certainly makes hm a communist, lol.

Guest 03-22-2016 06:49 PM

He said he is demonstrating what everybody should do and not let terrorism interrupt their daily lives.

How's that for a BS answer from the president of the strongest country in the world?

Unadulterated BS!

Guest 03-22-2016 08:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202523)
He said he is demonstrating what everybody should do and not let terrorism interrupt their daily lives.

How's that for a BS answer from the president of the strongest country in the world?

Unadulterated BS!

What would you say?

Guest 03-22-2016 08:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202501)
You know I heard that kind of rhetoric during the Vietnam war!!

Your insults need an update....

So why didn`t you move there then ?

Guest 03-22-2016 09:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1202132)
Not only does Obama appologize for the "sctions" of America. he agrees, in public, with a communist leader of a pi$$ant dot of an island's criticism of the USA.

It is all about Obama making his stock look good even in the eyes of the enemy at the expense of the status of the USA.

Show me another leader of any country or head of state that has so little respect for their country.

The man is a fool and continues to be a disgrace in the rest of the world.

Obama Welcomes Castro's Criticism of America: 'I Personally Would Not Disagree' | The Weekly Standard

"President Castro, I think, has pointed out that in his view making sure that everybody is getting a decent education or health care, has basic security and old age, that those things are human rights as well. I personally would not disagree with him," Obama said.

"But it doesn't detract from some of these other concerns. And the goal of the human rights dialogue is not for the United States to dictate to Cuba how they should govern themselves, but to make sure that we are having a frank and candid conversation around this issue. And hopefully that we can learn from each other."

Please point out to me how Obama let you down. What would you have said?


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