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Guest 03-25-2016 12:50 PM

And more downgrading USA by Obama
 
He is openly, stupidly, self serving critical of the USA at every chance he gets.

In his ignorance he thinks he is increasing the value of his personal stock by criticizing and appologizing for America's actions.

On this one what gives him the right to judge what was done or not done by America's leaders back then.

Does the PREACHER think he is so empowered to judge the past.

He exemplifies and confirms why he does nothing but talk. Leaves him room for deniability and the possibility of making an error.

In his last days he is making a bigger fool of himself everytime he opens his mouth.

What we know for sure? America will be much better of without him and his mouth in office.

Obama: US slow to speak out for human rights in Argentina - US News

Guest 03-25-2016 01:04 PM

Lets be honest here you all HATEhim so it would not matter what he says!!!

You hate his wife and his children the only person in his family you haven't attacked his in mother-in-law which surprises me because she is living in the White House and you are paying for that!!!

Guest 03-25-2016 01:50 PM

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Lets be honest here you all HATEhim so it would not matter what he says!!!

You hate his wife and his children the only person in his family you haven't attacked his in mother-in-law which surprises me because she is living in the White House and you are paying for that!!!

Yes, the old standby left wing comment when unable to figure things out, "HATE." You can dislike Obama's policies and yet the little lefties will declare/accuse you of HATING. If you don't agree with gay marriage your are hateful and a bigot Friend, you are a retard.

And as far as his mother-in-law living in the White House, at least she isn't on welfare. The house has plenty of rooms. Who cares? You brought it up, seeking a reaction. Hope that satisfies you. And I believe you are reading into the OP's comment and taking quite a bit of leeway by accusing him of hating Obama's family. Unless of course, you know him. Maybe you figure that since someone with the Guest moniker said something derogatory about Obama's family, you figured everyone said it?

I believe you should seek help for your problem. They have medications that will help.

Guest 03-25-2016 02:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203793)
Lets be honest here you all HATEhim so it would not matter what he says!!!

You hate his wife and his children the only person in his family you haven't attacked his in mother-in-law which surprises me because she is living in the White House and you are paying for that!!!

NO! You stand corrected!

Stop twisting and turning and positioning others comments to suit your cause whatever it is.
Do you think you accomplish anything by opening with "...let's be honest..." positioning that anything said was not honest.

Your BS ongoing about wife, kids, dogs and whatever else you could scoop up.

Where is the honesty in your position?

Is it OK with you that Obama continues to put down America as often as he does?
Is it OK with you that he appologizes for the actions of America past to our enemies?

Stay on the subject at hand, look in the mirror and then talk honestly ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND. and not some made up BS. Maybe you are trying too hard to emulate Obama instead of being a stand up for America American!!!

Guest 03-25-2016 02:26 PM

What I really do HATE is when others twist someone elses post to suit their BS agenda.

Guest 03-25-2016 03:01 PM

I don't hate Obama, but I don't like him. NO real American could, considering how he is always apologizing for America. He should be very proud, considering how far he has come with the help of so many Americans that have helped him along the way. Nothing like biting the hand that literally feeds him.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:06 PM

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NO! You stand corrected!

Stop twisting and turning and positioning others comments to suit your cause whatever it is.
Do you think you accomplish anything by opening with "...let's be honest..." positioning that anything said was not honest.

Your BS ongoing about wife, kids, dogs and whatever else you could scoop up.

Where is the honesty in your position?

Is it OK with you that Obama continues to put down America as often as he does?
Is it OK with you that he appologizes for the actions of America past to our enemies?

Stay on the subject at hand, look in the mirror and then talk honestly ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND. and not some made up BS. Maybe you are trying too hard to emulate Obama instead of being a stand up for America American!!!

What enemies has he apologized to? Argentina is our enemy?

He just recently visited Cuba. Did he apologize to the Cuban people for our actions?

Our past enemies include China, Russia, Japan, Germany, Italy, and Vietnam has he has apologized to them for our actions. I guess he would have apologized to Japanese interment victims, if they already hadn't been apologized to already.

Has he apologized to Muslims in all the Middle East, and African countries that have been hurt by our invasion of Iraq, and Afgan? I guess that he has the rest of the year to correct that mistake. He will apologize in the lame duck session.

When you want better relations with a country like Argentina, that wasn't, and isn't an enemy, why not apologize for a sin of the past? We are not blameless for what the Argentina dictator did in the years 1976 thru 1983.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203900)
What enemies has he apologized to? Argentina is our enemy?

He just recently visited Cuba. Did he apologize to the Cuban people for our actions?

Our past enemies include China, Russia, Japan, Germany, Italy, and Vietnam has he has apologized to them for our actions. I guess he would have apologized to Japanese interment victims, if they already hadn't been apologized to already.

Has he apologized to Muslims in all the Middle East, and African countries that have been hurt by our invasion of Iraq, and Afgan? I guess that he has the rest of the year to correct that mistake. He will apologize in the lame duck session.

When you want better relations with a country like Argentina, that wasn't, and isn't an enemy, why not apologize for a sin of the past? We are not blameless for what the Argentina dictator did in the years 1976 thru 1983.

Yes, he did. If you were interested enough in current events, you would know how many times he has apologized to other countries, INCLUDING Muslim countries. Remember, Google is your friend.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:26 PM

And don't forget how Global Warming causes terrorism and is more important than terrorist attacks.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203861)
I don't hate Obama, but I don't like him. NO real American could, considering how he is always apologizing for America. He should be very proud, considering how far he has come with the help of so many Americans that have helped him along the way. Nothing like biting the hand that literally feeds him.

I am a real American. I have given 37 years to this country, i think this President has done a great job taking this country out of a near depression and rebuilding this economy without any help at all from the GOP.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:55 PM

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And don't forget how Global Warming causes terrorism and is more important than terrorist attacks.

Hell i am more worried about a wacko with a gun in this country or a drunk driving a car than i am of any terrorist. Unlike the GOP voters I refuse to live in fear.

Guest 03-25-2016 06:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203900)
What enemies has he apologized to? Argentina is our enemy?

He just recently visited Cuba. Did he apologize to the Cuban people for our actions?

Our past enemies include China, Russia, Japan, Germany, Italy, and Vietnam has he has apologized to them for our actions. I guess he would have apologized to Japanese interment victims, if they already hadn't been apologized to already.

Has he apologized to Muslims in all the Middle East, and African countries that have been hurt by our invasion of Iraq, and Afgan? I guess that he has the rest of the year to correct that mistake. He will apologize in the lame duck session.

When you want better relations with a country like Argentina, that wasn't, and isn't an enemy, why not apologize for a sin of the past? We are not blameless for what the Argentina dictator did in the years 1976 thru 1983.

You are so party brainwashed and defensive you totally and completely missed the :censored: point!

Guest 03-25-2016 07:53 PM

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I am a real American. I have given 37 years to this country, i think this President has done a great job taking this country out of a near depression and rebuilding this economy without any help at all from the GOP.

What the hell is "a real American"? Somebody who believes the propaganda BS? Someone willing to die for bankers profits?

We're $10 TRILLION more in debt, that's the "recovery", over trillion a year. MORE than doubled since Bush, it's a $19 trillion debt now.

Most of you people are delusional. The ignorant rabble...

Guest 03-26-2016 04:08 AM

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Hell i am more worried about a wacko with a gun in this country or a drunk driving a car than i am of any terrorist. Unlike the GOP voters I refuse to live in fear.

NOpe, you do not live in fear. Thank your military for that. They are the ones on the front line. You don't live in fear because you are PROTECTED. Hope you are grateful for a strong military, even with a weak president.

Guest 03-26-2016 04:08 AM

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You are so party brainwashed and defensive you totally and completely missed the :censored: point!

:agree:

Guest 03-26-2016 04:14 AM

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I am a real American. I have given 37 years to this country, i think this President has done a great job taking this country out of a near depression and rebuilding this economy without any help at all from the GOP.

Well, you prove that "ignorance is bliss." Slowest recovery from a recession or depression in history. No thanks to Obama, because he did everything he could think of to slow it's recovery. Record number of families on food stamps, still. Lower minority EMPLOYMENT, still. Highest amount of population out of work force since the Great Depression. I could go on about this so-called success story you blather about, but it would be pointless because you would still deny it, even if it smacked you in the face. "Ignorance is bliss."

Guest 03-26-2016 06:25 AM

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Well, you prove that "ignorance is bliss." Slowest recovery from a recession or depression in history. No thanks to Obama, because he did everything he could think of to slow it's recovery. Record number of families on food stamps, still. Lower minority EMPLOYMENT, still. Highest amount of population out of work force since the Great Depression. I could go on about this so-called success story you blather about, but it would be pointless because you would still deny it, even if it smacked you in the face. "Ignorance is bliss."

Imagine that, a GOP wacko who is worrying about minority employment ...

Talk all you want ... complain all you want ... but your basically stating is the country has recovered but not as much as it should have. Which is totally subjective because you can't go back and put someone else in the job to actually see what would have happened. Every program that Obama tried to get through was either stopped by the GOP welfare senators, or cut back miserably. You have all the blame for your president but none for the actual money spenders, Congress.

2007-2008 this country was in dire straights. 8 years of Bush, fighting wars off the books, Obama takes over and all of a sudden it's his fault.

So cry all you want about Obama not doing enough for you. The fact is this country is in much better shape today than when he took office.

Guest 03-26-2016 06:44 AM

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Imagine that, a GOP wacko who is worrying about minority employment ...

Talk all you want ... complain all you want ... but your basically stating is the country has recovered but not as much as it should have. Which is totally subjective because you can't go back and put someone else in the job to actually see what would have happened. Every program that Obama tried to get through was either stopped by the GOP welfare senators, or cut back miserably. You have all the blame for your president but none for the actual money spenders, Congress.

2007-2008 this country was in dire straights. 8 years of Bush, fighting wars off the books, Obama takes over and all of a sudden it's his fault.

So cry all you want about Obama not doing enough for you. The fact is this country is in much better shape today than when he took office.

You nailed it.
We are a little better off. The top 1/10 of 1% have really done well the last 7 years.

Guest 03-26-2016 06:47 AM

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The fact is this country is in much better shape today than when he took office.

NO...it is NOT better. We added $10 trillion of debt. $30,000 for EVERY man woman AND child. It was a FAKE recovery fueled by debt. Like having a job, getting fired, and living off of credit cards and loans. What IS better? Gay people can marry? Children have "safe spaces" in colleges?

Guest 03-26-2016 07:39 AM

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Imagine that, a GOP wacko who is worrying about minority employment ...

Talk all you want ... complain all you want ... but your basically stating is the country has recovered but not as much as it should have. Which is totally subjective because you can't go back and put someone else in the job to actually see what would have happened. Every program that Obama tried to get through was either stopped by the GOP welfare senators, or cut back miserably. You have all the blame for your president but none for the actual money spenders, Congress.

2007-2008 this country was in dire straights. 8 years of Bush, fighting wars off the books, Obama takes over and all of a sudden it's his fault.

So cry all you want about Obama not doing enough for you. The fact is this country is in much better shape today than when he took office.

You're wrong. You can compare historical notes. You are probably the only one that would deny the facts. And the facts remain that this country's economy is down and we are being told obvious lies. Unemployment lies, for one. If half the work force quit looking for jobs, then you have an employment problem. You don't say Obama has the best unemployment figures in years. That doesn't compute. If you have 45 million families on food stamps, that doesn't show a great economy. If you have a negative GDP growth, that's not something to celebrate. When you have the lowest minority employment rate in many years, you don't applaud. Just because Obummer goes on TV and tells you that everything is peachy, you might as well believe that Clinton didn't transmit gov emails over an unsecured private Internet server. You liberals are very naive and that's not healthy.
History shows that almost any other president would have done better for an economic recovery. But, you go ahead and kiss Obummer's butt, because he will not be able to do any more damage in a few more months.

Guest 03-26-2016 07:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1204079)
Imagine that, a GOP wacko who is worrying about minority employment ...

Talk all you want ... complain all you want ... but your basically stating is the country has recovered but not as much as it should have. Which is totally subjective because you can't go back and put someone else in the job to actually see what would have happened. Every program that Obama tried to get through was either stopped by the GOP welfare senators, or cut back miserably. You have all the blame for your president but none for the actual money spenders, Congress.

2007-2008 this country was in dire straights. 8 years of Bush, fighting wars off the books, Obama takes over and all of a sudden it's his fault.

So cry all you want about Obama not doing enough for you. The fact is this country is in much better shape today than when he took office.

Interesting that you say that, probably with a naive straight face. The GOP is responsible for doing more for minorities than the party of slavery. Which party voted for all the civil rights laws and which did not? Google is your friend. And there are more ways than one for one to be a slave to a higher power. The liberals are doing their best to keep the minority down.

Guest 03-26-2016 09:25 AM

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Yes, he did. If you were interested enough in current events, you would know how many times he has apologized to other countries, INCLUDING Muslim countries. Remember, Google is your friend.

You are right. Google is my friend. This is what my friend told me.
CNN Fact Check: Obama went on an apology tour, Romney and others say - CNNPolitics.com

In this political climate, everything is twisted to fit the narrative the person wants others to believe. If you don't think that pure hate has nothing to do how people including the press treat Obama, you are kidding yourself.

Guest 03-26-2016 09:34 AM

I'm glad you have a friend in Google. I do too. Take a look at this. It may help you understand how the names of the party's came about.

Guest 03-26-2016 10:14 AM

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You're wrong. You can compare historical notes. You are probably the only one that would deny the facts. And the facts remain that this country's economy is down and we are being told obvious lies. Unemployment lies, for one. If half the work force quit looking for jobs, then you have an employment problem. You don't say Obama has the best unemployment figures in years. That doesn't compute. If you have 45 million families on food stamps, that doesn't show a great economy. If you have a negative GDP growth, that's not something to celebrate. When you have the lowest minority employment rate in many years, you don't applaud. Just because Obummer goes on TV and tells you that everything is peachy, you might as well believe that Clinton didn't transmit gov emails over an unsecured private Internet server. You liberals are very naive and that's not healthy.
History shows that almost any other president would have done better for an economic recovery. But, you go ahead and kiss Obummer's butt, because he will not be able to do any more damage in a few more months.

Half the work force has stopped looking for work. The total work force is 156 million. The total US population is 323 million. 156 x 2 = 312 million.
So, children of school age and under, and retired people in the US makes up the difference 11 million. Don't you think that half is just a little high?

45 million people on food stamps maybe the result of the minimum wage being too low. With many production jobs leaving the US, we are a service country. Many of the service jobs pay next to nothing. Wal-Mart was receiving billions of dollars from the US by underpaying their employees. Their employees received the money from the government. However, if Wal-Mart had paid them a living wage, they wouldn't need food stamps. Wal-Mart said that they will be paying their employees more, because light was shed on them, and they don't want their customers going elsewhere.

Why do you think that they called the Great Recession? No other president had to deal with a recession like the one he was handed. To make matters worse, the Republican obstructed everything Obama wanted to do from day one of his presidency. To place all the blame on Obama is a typical right wing attempt to change history. It just won't fly.

Guest 03-26-2016 10:41 AM

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You are right. Google is my friend. This is what my friend told me.
CNN Fact Check: Obama went on an apology tour, Romney and others say - CNNPolitics.com

In this political climate, everything is twisted to fit the narrative the person wants others to believe. If you don't think that pure hate has nothing to do how people including the press treat Obama, you are kidding yourself.

Excellent article that supports your opinion. I would be interesting to read an article that supports the opposite opinion. Google is everyone's friend. Let's see how others use it to support their view.

Guest 03-26-2016 10:46 AM

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I am a real American. I have given 37 years to this country, i think this President has done a great job taking this country out of a near depression and rebuilding this economy without any help at all from the GOP.


Guest 03-26-2016 10:54 AM

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What the hell is "a real American"? Somebody who believes the propaganda BS? Someone willing to die for bankers profits?

We're $10 TRILLION more in debt, that's the "recovery", over trillion a year. MORE than doubled since Bush, it's a $19 trillion debt now.

Most of you people are delusional. The ignorant rabble...

Didn't the republican congress promise to fix that? What a whiner.

Guest 03-26-2016 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=Guest;1204222]Half the work force has stopped looking for work. The total work force is 156 million. The total US population is 323 million. 156 x 2 = 312 million.
So, children of school age and under, and retired people in the US makes up the difference 11 million. Don't you think that half is just a little high?
QUOTE]

Look, I am a far left progressive, in the Elizabeth Warren wing, but your statement that 1/2 the work force has stopped looking is ridiculous and making feces up doesn't help our side look reasonable. The bureau of labor statistics actually studies these things so you don't have to guess. It should be obvious that not every American is seeking employment. There are plenty of homes with a stay at home parent. Members of the military are not counted as employed. Etc. etc.

There are 60 million Americans on Social Security There are 70 million under age 18, so that gives you 130 million right off the top.
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quic...stat_snapshot/
Persons under age 18, 2015-2060

Here is the data, and if you are really interested in how the data is collected the BLS website is very thorough
Employment Situation Summary

Guest 03-26-2016 11:04 AM

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Wal-Mart was receiving billions of dollars from the US by underpaying their employees. Their employees received the money from the government. However, if Wal-Mart had paid them a living wage, they wouldn't need food stamps. Wal-Mart said that they will be paying their employees more, because light was shed on them, and they don't want their customers going elsewhere.


Guest 03-26-2016 11:07 AM

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Here is the data, and if you are really interested in how the data is collected the BLS website is very thorough
Employment Situation Summary

I was interested.
Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 242,000 in February, and the
unemployment rate was unchanged at 4.9 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor
Statistics reported today. Employment gains occurred in health care and social
assistance, retail trade, food services and drinking places, and private
educational services. Job losses continued in mining.

Guest 03-26-2016 11:22 AM

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I was interested.
Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 242,000 in February, and the
unemployment rate was unchanged at 4.9 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor
Statistics reported today. Employment gains occurred in health care and social
assistance, retail trade, food services and drinking places, and private
educational services.
Among the marginally attached, there were 599,000 discouraged workers in
February, down by 133,000 from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally
adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work
because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.2 million
persons marginally attached to the labor force in February had not searched
for work for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities.
(See table A-16.)

Job losses continued in mining.

Guest 03-26-2016 12:20 PM

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He is openly, stupidly, self serving critical of the USA at every chance he gets.

In his ignorance he thinks he is increasing the value of his personal stock by criticizing and appologizing for America's actions.

On this one what gives him the right to judge what was done or not done by America's leaders back then.

Does the PREACHER think he is so empowered to judge the past.

He exemplifies and confirms why he does nothing but talk. Leaves him room for deniability and the possibility of making an error.

In his last days he is making a bigger fool of himself everytime he opens his mouth.

What we know for sure? America will be much better of without him and his mouth in office.

Obama: US slow to speak out for human rights in Argentina - US News

No, my Tea Bag friend, it is YOU that CONTINUES to make a fool of yourself every time you post.

What are you going to do WHEN Hillary wins in November? Canada does not want Cruz or you!

Guest 03-26-2016 12:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1204222)
Half the work force has stopped looking for work. The total work force is 156 million. The total US population is 323 million. 156 x 2 = 312 million.
So, children of school age and under, and retired people in the US makes up the difference 11 million. Don't you think that half is just a little high?

45 million people on food stamps maybe the result of the minimum wage being too low. With many production jobs leaving the US, we are a service country. Many of the service jobs pay next to nothing. Wal-Mart was receiving billions of dollars from the US by underpaying their employees. Their employees received the money from the government. However, if Wal-Mart had paid them a living wage, they wouldn't need food stamps. Wal-Mart said that they will be paying their employees more, because light was shed on them, and they don't want their customers going elsewhere.

Why do you think that they called the Great Recession? No other president had to deal with a recession like the one he was handed. To make matters worse, the Republican obstructed everything Obama wanted to do from day one of his presidency. To place all the blame on Obama is a typical right wing attempt to change history. It just won't fly.

According to statista.com, In Feb 2016 there were only 121.76 million full-time workers in the U.S. I stand corrected, the employed adults equal about 62% of the total. That means that about 48% of eligible adults are not working. I believe that sometime between last year at this time and now, our labor force has been at a 38 year low. Since statistics are sketchy this year so far, I am not sure if we still fit the historical 38 year low.

As for your statement that no other president has had to deal with a recession like this one he was handed, I believe you will find that there have been plenty of recessions that other presidents have had to endure. And remember, Obama was the one that knew what he was asking for when he ran, and Obama is the one that assured everyone that he knew what he was doing. But, he wouldn't listen to his economic advisors, even firing them. NO, he has been responsible for the longest recession OR Depression recovery in history. Blaming Republicans for obstruction is just immature. You know as well as I do that there was NOTHING they could do in the first two years to hinder ANYTHING he wished to do. His own party may have gotten in his way, but not the Republicans. Nope, instead they insisted on forcing Obamacare through, after everyone warned them and the voters did not want it. Proof was the resulting historical congressional massacre on election day.

I believe that the point was the high rate of those that are not in the work force in comparison with employed. Please don't be insulting by suggesting that if minimum wages were higher that would change anything. Min wages are for school kids, retirees and those working a second part-time job. Min wages were never meant for full-time employment.

Guest 03-26-2016 12:47 PM

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No, my Tea Bag friend, it is YOU that CONTINUES to make a fool of yourself every time you post.

What are you going to do WHEN Hillary wins in November? Canada does not want Cruz or you!

Hillary will look pretty funny serving behind bars. Then again, she will save travel expenses.

Guest 03-26-2016 01:57 PM

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equal about 62% of the total. That means that about 48% of eligible adults are not working.

I didn't get very far in your post before I was confused.
62% plus 48% = 110%?

Guest 03-26-2016 02:00 PM

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No, my Tea Bag friend, it is YOU that CONTINUES to make a fool of yourself every time you post.

What are you going to do WHEN Hillary wins in November? Canada does not want Cruz or you!

What will you do my Tea BAGEE friend, WHEN she looses?

Guest 03-26-2016 02:08 PM

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What will you do my Tea BAGEE friend, WHEN she looses?

Are there 3 people thinking the other 2 are foolish in this dispute?
Hillary supporter
Hillary hater
Tea ****** friend that neither one likes

Guest 03-26-2016 02:17 PM

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I didn't get very far in your post before I was confused.
62% plus 48% = 110%?

Probably a type-o. Bet it was supposed to be 38%.

Guest 03-26-2016 02:25 PM

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Percentage of Employed Americans. Lowest since the '70s

Guest 03-26-2016 02:28 PM

That graph was from Politifact.com on Jan 2016. Forgot to add that info.


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